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Why don't bakers refuse to sell pies, cakes and cookies to the morbidly obese?
Gluttony is a sin.
They're facilitating the sin and actively participating.


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We are quite aware of your morality flan. You practice feel good morality which is not morality at all.


Beats practicing feel bad morality. 


 Actually, negative emotions are very good at propelling people do the right things in life.  If we didn't have shame, embarrassment, guilt, etc, then you are going to have a world full of self centered narcissists who think they do no wrong.  Oh yeah, that's right, we already do!



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Why don't bakers refuse to sell pies, cakes and cookies to the morbidly obese?
Gluttony is a sin.
They're facilitating the sin and actively participating.


   I don't know why don't you ask them?  You don't get to decide someone else's religious conscience now do you?  



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When i tell my dog, "bad doggie", she holds down her ears and tail. Do i like to discipline her that way? No, but she wants to learn to do what is right to do. And, that teaches her.
The same with humans. We don't want to do things that induce shame, guilt, embarrassment, humiliation, etc. Yes ,we can go overboard in either direction and have. But, trying to eliminate those things doesn't make for a better society of human beings. The Left wants to eliminate those things entirely.
Want and hunger are also great life motivators. I am hungry. I want things. Therefore i get up and go to work everyday and grind, grind, grind. See how that works?

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Feel good morality is just a way of doing what you please because there are no restraints on what is right or wrong. Without restraints it's just everyone for themselves.

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It doesn't matter. They continually ignore the difficult questions that have answers that would not meet their view.

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You seem to think that as long as you are not in the act of having sex, you are not participating in the perpetuation of the sin.

That isnt true.

If someone comes to you and says "I need your service while I rob a bank, stand on the corner and watch for police" and you don't report that and you go along with it, you are JUST as guilty as the one robbing the bank.

It's condoning the act and participation in perpetuating the crime.
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That's active participation of the act though. By being a lookout, you are participating in that act while it's happening.

By baking a cake you are not participating in the sinful act that happens at home. And that sinful act would be happening at home with or without the cake, or the marriage license for that matter.


 That analogy fails every single time.

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If I was a baker and forced to make a cake for your gay wedding you can bet you wouldn't want to eat it. You'd have no proof but I'd make sure you'd think twice about what was in that cake.

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When i tell my dog, "bad doggie", she holds down her ears and tail. Do i like to discipline her that way? No, but she wants to learn to do what is right to do. And, that teaches her.
The same with humans. We don't want to do things that induce shame, guilt, embarrassment, humiliation, etc. Yes ,we can go overboard in either direction and have. But, trying to eliminate those things doesn't make for a better society of human beings. The Left wants to eliminate those things entirely.
Want and hunger are also great life motivators. I am hungry. I want things. Therefore i get up and go to work everyday and grind, grind, grind. See how that works?


 You are more intelligent that that.

But continue to believe that Boogeymen lurk around every corner, just waiting to pounce...

And positive reinforcement often works as well as discipline, on children and puppies.

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Is there anything you'd actually be ashamed of?

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Follow me around all day. I really don't care. It just proves my point.

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What point would that be? That you can't answer a simple question?

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From you? I talk to my friends.

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From you? I talk to my friends.

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You don't have friends... 



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Ohfour wrote:
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From you? I talk to my friends.

flan


You don't have friends... 


 I'll be sure to tell them that you said so...hmm

Sorry, NJN. No more talking with me.

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flan327 wrote:
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From you? I talk to my friends.

flan


You don't have friends... 


 I'll be sure to tell them that you said so...hmm

Sorry, NJN. No more talking with me.

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I thought she got mad and left?   



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She couldn't handle the heat of being friends with flan.

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flan327 wrote:
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From you? I talk to my friends.

flan


You don't have friends... 


 I'll be sure to tell them that you said so...hmm

Sorry, NJN. No more talking with me.

flan


 So O4 isn't your friend but you'll talk to her? Ok so it's just me you're afraid of?



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I am presently cowering under the couch.

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Speaking of NJN, where has she been?

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Speaking of NJN, where has she been?


 Taking a break. We keep in touch.

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flan327 wrote:
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Speaking of NJN, where has she been?


 Taking a break. We keep in touch.

flan


Taking a break from what?  Us?  hmm 



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Why on earth would anyone "need" a break from us?

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Yeah really. We are da bomb diggity!

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flan327 wrote:
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You seem to think that as long as you are not in the act of having sex, you are not participating in the perpetuation of the sin.

That isnt true.

If someone comes to you and says "I need your service while I rob a bank, stand on the corner and watch for police" and you don't report that and you go along with it, you are JUST as guilty as the one robbing the bank.

It's condoning the act and participation in perpetuating the crime.
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That's active participation of the act though. By being a lookout, you are participating in that act while it's happening.

By baking a cake you are not participating in the sinful act that happens at home. And that sinful act would be happening at home with or without the cake, or the marriage license for that matter.


 That analogy fails every single time.

flan


 So it's ok to willingly help a bank robber?

No. Its call accessory. 

When helping to facilitate a wedding between homosexuals, you are an accessory to the sin.

We are to set ourselves apart from sin. Shine a light on sin and not make sin ok.

 



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NJN isn't gone.

She lurks everyday.

And she got caught in a bald face lie and got mad when called on it and was made to apologize.

She's on that board that shall remain nameless.



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

Yeah really. We are da bomb diggity!


 Bomb Diggity DAWG!



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Bomb Diggity Double Dawg!!

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We are quite aware of your morality flan. You practice feel good morality which is not morality at all.


Beats practicing feel bad morality. 


 Actually, negative emotions are very good at propelling people do the right things in life.  If we didn't have shame, embarrassment, guilt, etc, then you are going to have a world full of self centered narcissists who think they do no wrong.  Oh yeah, that's right, we already do!


If you want to wallow in shame, guilt and embarrassment, knock yourself out.

I've done nothing to feel guilty or ashamed about.



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weltschmerz wrote:
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We are quite aware of your morality flan. You practice feel good morality which is not morality at all.


Beats practicing feel bad morality. 


 Actually, negative emotions are very good at propelling people do the right things in life.  If we didn't have shame, embarrassment, guilt, etc, then you are going to have a world full of self centered narcissists who think they do no wrong.  Oh yeah, that's right, we already do!


If you want to wallow in shame, guilt and embarrassment, knock yourself out.

I've done nothing to feel guilty or ashamed about.


You would have to have a soul to feel guilt or shame.  You don't have one... 



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Ohfour wrote:
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We are quite aware of your morality flan. You practice feel good morality which is not morality at all.


Beats practicing feel bad morality. 


 Actually, negative emotions are very good at propelling people do the right things in life.  If we didn't have shame, embarrassment, guilt, etc, then you are going to have a world full of self centered narcissists who think they do no wrong.  Oh yeah, that's right, we already do!


If you want to wallow in shame, guilt and embarrassment, knock yourself out.

I've done nothing to feel guilty or ashamed about.


You would have to have a soul to feel guilt or shame.  You don't have one... 


A what, now?

Show me proof of a soul. 



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weltschmerz wrote:
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We are quite aware of your morality flan. You practice feel good morality which is not morality at all.


Beats practicing feel bad morality. 


 Actually, negative emotions are very good at propelling people do the right things in life.  If we didn't have shame, embarrassment, guilt, etc, then you are going to have a world full of self centered narcissists who think they do no wrong.  Oh yeah, that's right, we already do!


If you want to wallow in shame, guilt and embarrassment, knock yourself out.

I've done nothing to feel guilty or ashamed about.


You would have to have a soul to feel guilt or shame.  You don't have one... 


A what, now?

Show me proof of a soul. 


Just as soon as you show me proof of love... 



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I'll believe in a soul as soon as you believe that angry mountain spirits can cause earthquakes.
Why should I believe one and not the other?

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NJN isn't gone.

She lurks everyday.

And she got caught in a bald face lie and got mad when called on it and was made to apologize.

She's on that board that shall remain nameless.


 Richard's board is called Great Escape.

And it's far more complicated than you will ever admit.

If you had a hobby, you might not feel the need to check up on her constantly.

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I'll believe in a soul as soon as you believe that angry mountain spirits can cause earthquakes.
Why should I believe one and not the other?


 BECAUSE she said so, you soulless heathen! evileye

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weltschmerz wrote:

I'll believe in a soul as soon as you believe that angry mountain spirits can cause earthquakes.
Why should I believe one and not the other?


To prove to someone that I have a soul means they have to have one too.  I KNOW I have a soul, just like I KNOW that I dreamt about the lake last night.  I can't prove that to you either, but I know that I did.

Unless you actually have a soul, I can't explain to you what it is.  It's a feeling.  A feeling that someone without a soul just couldn't understand... 



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Well your hobby is lily so njn is her hobby. You of course are my hobby so we all have hobbies now.

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NJN isn't gone.

She lurks everyday.

And she got caught in a bald face lie and got mad when called on it and was made to apologize.

She's on that board that shall remain nameless.


 So have you. I called you on it and you just doubled down.



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weltschmerz wrote:
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NJN isn't gone.

She lurks everyday.

And she got caught in a bald face lie and got mad when called on it and was made to apologize.

She's on that board that shall remain nameless.


 So have you. I called you on it and you just doubled down.


 What have I lied about?

 



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flan327 wrote:
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NJN isn't gone.

She lurks everyday.

And she got caught in a bald face lie and got mad when called on it and was made to apologize.

She's on that board that shall remain nameless.


 Richard's board is called Great Escape.

And it's far more complicated than you will ever admit.

If you had a hobby, you might not feel the need to check up on her constantly.

flan


 First, I'm not checking up. I was once a member of that board and now and then go and see what some are up to.

And there is nothing complicated about it.

She attempted to jump to your defense by making up a lie about me.

And if you could only read some of the PMs she has sent me about you.

Let's just say you wouldn't be so quick to defend her.

 



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Oh. And I have a hobby.

Painting, crafting.

I'll take post pictures some time.

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I think NJN choosing to take a break was an excellent idea for her. She obviously needed some space from here. I hope she is doing well.

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No one will believe me. But I do wish her well.

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I think NJN choosing to take a break was an excellent idea for her. She obviously needed some space from here. I hope she is doing well.


 She is.

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I'll believe in a soul as soon as you believe that angry mountain spirits can cause earthquakes.
Why should I believe one and not the other?


 The soul is an essential part of the immortality ideology.

You can't have life after death without it.  It may be a grand illusion, but its a comforting one at that.

 



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lilyofcourse wrote:
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NJN isn't gone.

She lurks everyday.

And she got caught in a bald face lie and got mad when called on it and was made to apologize.

She's on that board that shall remain nameless.


 So have you. I called you on it and you just doubled down.


 What have I lied about?

 


"All your posts deal with how much you love Muslims. It's in all your posts!"

Now you're going to say "Oh, you're still on that?"

Yes. It was still a lie. 



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I'll believe in a soul as soon as you believe that angry mountain spirits can cause earthquakes.
Why should I believe one and not the other?


 The soul is an essential part of the immortality ideology.

You can't have life after death without it.  It may be a grand illusion, but its a comforting one at that.

 


Some people need grand illusions.

And some don't. 



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You seem to think that as long as you are not in the act of having sex, you are not participating in the perpetuation of the sin.

That isnt true.

If someone comes to you and says "I need your service while I rob a bank, stand on the corner and watch for police" and you don't report that and you go along with it, you are JUST as guilty as the one robbing the bank.

It's condoning the act and participation in perpetuating the crime.
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That's active participation of the act though. By being a lookout, you are participating in that act while it's happening.

By baking a cake you are not participating in the sinful act that happens at home. And that sinful act would be happening at home with or without the cake, or the marriage license for that matter.


 Now you are splitting hairs to justify your ridiculous position.  

You are absolutely participating.  It's a gay wedding--that in and of itself is a sin--not just the sex act.  



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BS. maybe not the actual deed, but you are participating.

if you buy a teenager booze, you are participating in him and his pals getting drunk even if you don't drink it.
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That's only participatory because they couldn't otherwise have the booze if you hadn't provided it.

Can a homosexual couple have homosexual sex if you don't provide them a cake? It's my guess that they could still do it. So providing the cake in no way creates an ability to have homosexual sex.


 They can get the cake from someone else JUST LIKE the kids can get booze from someone else.  

Again, the wedding, itself, is a sinful act--not just the physical act of sex.  



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weltschmerz wrote:
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I'll believe in a soul as soon as you believe that angry mountain spirits can cause earthquakes.
Why should I believe one and not the other?


 The soul is an essential part of the immortality ideology.

You can't have life after death without it.  It may be a grand illusion, but its a comforting one at that.

 


Some people need grand illusions.

And some don't. 


 And some people have souls. Something you are obviously lacking.  



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