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A contagious virus is spreading among the evacuees in the shelters.
People are being moved yet again, while others are asked to put themselves in voluntary quarantine.


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And what was the response to the offer to help?

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So, you've never referred to Tiganello as Tig? Or Lawyer Lady as LL?

I call lie....


Evidently, you don't know the difference between an abbreviation and a diminutive.

You should have stayed in school. 


 What diminutive?



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And what was the response to the offer to help?


It doesn't matter. At least you finally offered to help.

Many Canadians were upset that you hadn't even offered before.



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weltschmerz wrote:
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And what was the response to the offer to help?


It doesn't matter. At least you finally offered to help.

Many Canadians were upset that you hadn't even offered before.


 Damn Lily, how can you be so effing selfish?  Help damn you! 



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weltschmerz wrote:
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So, you've never referred to Tiganello as Tig? Or Lawyer Lady as LL?

I call lie....


Evidently, you don't know the difference between an abbreviation and a diminutive.

You should have stayed in school. 


 The analogy would actually WORK if I called Tignanello (you forgot the "n"), Tij or Tio.

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weltschmerz wrote:

A contagious virus is spreading among the evacuees in the shelters.
People are being moved yet again, while others are asked to put themselves in voluntary quarantine.


 Oh, I'm so sorry to heat that.

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The analogy would be when others call you flannie it's no big deal... You both get your knickers in a knot over the silliest things. How do you deal with real life? Oh yeah, you deal with it by feeling superior by pointing out spelling and welts does it by trying to feel superior to America.

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weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

And what was the response to the offer to help?


It doesn't matter. At least you finally offered to help.

Many Canadians were upset that you hadn't even offered before.


 Like you, they were ignorant of the agreement between the two countries.  The bad feelings you all have are mis directed, should be directed at your own governement since it was on them to request the help.



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weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

And what was the response to the offer to help?


It doesn't matter. At least you finally offered to help.

Many Canadians were upset that you hadn't even offered before.


 You don't even know WHEN the help was offered.  There was an article a couple of days ago, and then several yesterday.  Many countries offered - all were declined.  Look to your own government.



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flan327 wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
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So, you've never referred to Tiganello as Tig? Or Lawyer Lady as LL?

I call lie....


Evidently, you don't know the difference between an abbreviation and a diminutive.

You should have stayed in school. 


 The analogy would actually WORK if I called Tignanello (you forgot the "n"), Tij or Tio.

flan


 Listen, 327, in case you didn't notice, nobody gives a flying fvck what you think.



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Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:

So, you've never referred to Tiganello as Tig? Or Lawyer Lady as LL?

I call lie....


Evidently, you don't know the difference between an abbreviation and a diminutive.

You should have stayed in school. 


 The analogy would actually WORK if I called Tignanello (you forgot the "n"), Tij or Tio.

flan


 Listen, 327, in case you didn't notice, nobody gives a flying fvck what you think.


 Which is why you had to post????

flan



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weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

And what was the response to the offer to help?


It doesn't matter. At least you finally offered to help.

Many Canadians were upset that you hadn't even offered before.


 So it was pointless and a waste of time.

 



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Empyreal wrote:
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lilyofcourse wrote:

And what was the response to the offer to help?


It doesn't matter. At least you finally offered to help.

Many Canadians were upset that you hadn't even offered before.


 Damn Lily, how can you be so effing selfish?  Help damn you! 


 Right? 

I guess we could all send a jar of water or go take turns pissing on the fire.

 



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lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

And what was the response to the offer to help?


It doesn't matter. At least you finally offered to help.

Many Canadians were upset that you hadn't even offered before.


 So it was pointless and a waste of time.

 


 Well, we didn't need to offer at all.  There is a TREATY in place for exactly this kind of thing that requires Canada to request the help.  But they didn't want help. 

 

So, Weltz has her panties in a wad against America AGAIN for no reason.  Shocking.



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flan327 wrote:
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weltschmerz wrote:
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So, you've never referred to Tiganello as Tig? Or Lawyer Lady as LL?

I call lie....


Evidently, you don't know the difference between an abbreviation and a diminutive.

You should have stayed in school. 


 The analogy would actually WORK if I called Tignanello (you forgot the "n"), Tij or Tio.

flan


 Listen, 327, in case you didn't notice, nobody gives a flying fvck what you think.


 Which is why you had to post????

flan


 I think what she is trying to say is, stop bitchin. 

 



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Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

And what was the response to the offer to help?


It doesn't matter. At least you finally offered to help.

Many Canadians were upset that you hadn't even offered before.


 So it was pointless and a waste of time.

 


 Well, we didn't need to offer at all.  There is a TREATY in place for exactly this kind of thing that requires Canada to request the help.  But they didn't want help. 

 

So, Weltz has her panties in a wad against America AGAIN for no reason.  Shocking.


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lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:

So, you've never referred to Tiganello as Tig? Or Lawyer Lady as LL?

I call lie....


Evidently, you don't know the difference between an abbreviation and a diminutive.

You should have stayed in school. 


 The analogy would actually WORK if I called Tignanello (you forgot the "n"), Tij or Tio.

flan


 Listen, 327, in case you didn't notice, nobody gives a flying fvck what you think.


 Which is why you had to post????

flan


 I think what she is trying to say is, stop bitchin. 

 


 I know what she was trying to says, Lils.

She hates me, and rarely misses a chance to tell me so.

flan



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flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:

So, you've never referred to Tiganello as Tig? Or Lawyer Lady as LL?

I call lie....


Evidently, you don't know the difference between an abbreviation and a diminutive.

You should have stayed in school. 


 The analogy would actually WORK if I called Tignanello (you forgot the "n"), Tij or Tio.

flan


 Listen, 327, in case you didn't notice, nobody gives a flying fvck what you think.


 Which is why you had to post????

flan


 I think what she is trying to say is, stop bitchin. 

 


 I know what she was trying to says, Lils.

She hates me, and rarely misses a chance to tell me so.

flan


 Oh goodie, poor you.

You bring it on yourself.

 



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Bwahahahahaha...flan playing the victim again. How cute...

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weltschmerz wrote:
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So, you've never referred to Tiganello as Tig? Or Lawyer Lady as LL?

I call lie....


Evidently, you don't know the difference between an abbreviation and a diminutive.

You should have stayed in school. 


Why? So I could get a degree in psychology and make a pittance of what I make now?  No thanks...



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Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:

So, you've never referred to Tiganello as Tig? Or Lawyer Lady as LL?

I call lie....


Evidently, you don't know the difference between an abbreviation and a diminutive.

You should have stayed in school. 


Why? So I could get a degree in psychology and make a pittance of what I make now?  No thanks...


 Or get a masters in library science and work part time.



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Lawyerlady wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:

So, you've never referred to Tiganello as Tig? Or Lawyer Lady as LL?

I call lie....


Evidently, you don't know the difference between an abbreviation and a diminutive.

You should have stayed in school. 


Why? So I could get a degree in psychology and make a pittance of what I make now?  No thanks...


 Or get a masters in library science and work part time.


 I wouldn't change a thing.

Try again, big important lawyer...

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Hahaha...You're the one acting like you're better than others with the stay in school comment. Stop acting like a know it all and maybe people won't get all over your posts.

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"Stay in school?"

Thanks for playing, but try again.

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The smartest people I've ever known never finished 8th or 9th grade.

The dumbest people have had doctorates.

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lilyofcourse wrote:

The smartest people I've ever known never finished 8th or 9th grade.

The dumbest people have had doctorates.


 Well, there's "book smarts" and there is common sense.

Some people have both, some have one or the other, some have neither.

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flan327 wrote:
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The smartest people I've ever known never finished 8th or 9th grade.

The dumbest people have had doctorates.


 Well, there's "book smarts" and there is common sense.

Some people have both, some have one or the other, some have neither.

flan


 And it's easy to see which are which here.



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lilyofcourse wrote:
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The smartest people I've ever known never finished 8th or 9th grade.

The dumbest people have had doctorates.


 Well, there's "book smarts" and there is common sense.

Some people have both, some have one or the other, some have neither.

flan


 And it's easy to see which are which here.


 Dam skippy, Lils!

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I gotta say, I like Lils.

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I like it too.

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lilyofcourse wrote:

I gotta say, I like Lils.


 I do too! Go figure...evileye

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this is so sad. We are all smoky where I live due to the fires. Sending prayers to all affected

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My takeaway from this tragedy is all the wonderful kind hearted people that did step up and the overwhelming support Fort Mac has received.
I'll not dwell on what did not happen but what did. There are a lot of special, kind moments hidden in this tragedy if you look for them.

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As a silver lining tragedy always seems to bring out the best in people.

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As a silver lining tragedy always seems to bring out the best in people.


 True. The lady in the wedding dress had her wedding dress and everything for her wedding burn in the fire.

A company in Toronto gave her this dress. Nice eh?



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As a silver lining tragedy always seems to bring out the best in people.


 True. The lady in the wedding dress had her wedding dress and everything for her wedding burn in the fire.

A company in Toronto gave her this dress. Nice eh?


How sad & wonderful at the same time. 



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Lexxy wrote:
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As a silver lining tragedy always seems to bring out the best in people.


 True. The lady in the wedding dress had her wedding dress and everything for her wedding burn in the fire.

A company in Toronto gave her this dress. Nice eh?


How sad & wonderful at the same time. 


 Kinda like life...

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Debunking the Fort McMurray rumours: No, the fire wasn’t started by ISIL, eco-terrorists or Rachel Notley

TRISTIN HOPPER  05.10.2016

 

sight. Below, find a round-up of the most common myths — and why they’re utter bull ploppy. 

Air Canada price-gouged evacuees
It’s an irresistible story: Sweet, patriotic Calgary-owned WestJet moved heaven and earth to evacuate Fort McMurrayites for free, while those eastern skunks at Air Canada gouged fleeing citizens with predatory pricing. WestJet did indeed spearhead a Herculean effort to get evacuees out of oil sands camps north of the city, with the costs covered by both themselves and Fort McMurray-area oil companies. But Air Canada did not impose any kind of disaster premium on evacuees booking flights out of Alberta. Ticket buyers were simply getting the same inflated price as anyone who books an Air Canada flight with only a few hours notice. “This was a result of Air Canada’s computerized revenue management system, which automatically manages fares,” wrote the airline in a statement.

Rachel Notley doomed Fort McMurray by slashing the firefighting budget
In a PR nightmare for the ages, Premier Rachel Notley did indeed slash $5.3-million from the Alberta firefighting budget only weeks before the most devastating forest fire in the province’s history. But the cut was an accounting ****-up, rather than a real-world kneecapping of Alberta’s firefighters. Firefighting money is emergency funding; it’s virtually unlimited in times of disaster. What the budget did was lowball what the final bill was going to be when the firefighting season ended. Water tanker contracts were shortened, but that won’t come into play until August. And fire preparation budgets did take a small hit, but when it comes to a fire that can jump the Athabasca River, there’s only so much a few more fire breaks could have done — particularly when the budget was only tabled last month.

The Red Cross is getting rich off Fort McMurray
Even when every official in Alberta is urging people to put relief efforts towards long-term Red Cross-managed funds, many staunchly refuse based on the belief that the Red Cross are soulless, bureaucratic tragedy profiteers who will ship the Fort McMurray donations to Syria. “They’ll take all that money else where in the world,” reads a typical comment. This week, the Alberta branch of the Red Cross told CBC that 95% of the now-$60 million donation pool will go directly to Fort McMurray relief efforts. That’s still $3 million going towards processing the donations, but the Red Cross is uniquely on guard against perceptions that it is squirrelling away disaster money. In the wake of the September 11 attacks, the charity faced one of the largest PR disasters in its history after it tried to bank some of the overwhelming number of donations for a fund that would benefit the “victims of tomorrow.” This doesn’t mean that Alberta shouldn’t be keeping the Red Cross’ feet to the fire, however. In the wake of Hurricane Sandy, for instance, a devastating ProPublica investigation found that the American Red Cross wasted food, mismanaged volunteers and used needed emergency vehicles for press conferences.

Russia could stop the fire if only Justin Trudeau would let them
The Russian Federation, the world leader in ridiculously oversized aircraft, has pledged for Fort McMurray a handful of Ilyushin Il-76 firefighting aircraft capable of dumping “42 tons of fire retardant into fire spots.” Ottawa, however, turned them down. While it’s nice to think that Vladimir Putin could simply sucker punch the Fort McMurray fire back to hell, Prime Minister Trudeau is almost certainly taking his orders on this file from first responders on the ground. One of the most difficult parts of fighting a forest fire is coordinating smoky skies filled with low-flying helicopters and water bombers. It’s why, over the past few years often the only fatalities in major fires have come about due to air crashes. Jamming in a bunch of Russian-speaking pilots who don’t know the terrain might help douse a few fire lines, but it could also get people killed.

Trudeau doesn’t care about Alberta because he has waited more than a week to tour the fire zone
Normally, Alberta is the part of Canada most nauseated by Justin Trudeau photo ops. And yet, more than a week after the Fort McMurray evacuation order, the Prime Minister is now being pilloried as an Alberta-hater because he hasn’t yet touched down in wildrose country. These critics may underestimate the overwhelming logistics of getting a prime minister into an active disaster area. Escorts need to be arranged, schedules need to be approved, and frontline workers need to be diverted to act as guides. It’s for this reason that politicians are typically pilloried for doing the exact opposite of what Trudeau is doing. In the midst of devastating 1996 floods in Manitoba, for instance, Prime Minister Jean Chretien quickly helicoptered into a South Winnipeg neighbourhood, was handed a sandbag by a volunteer and attracted prairie-wide outrage when he responded “what do you want me to do with it?”

The Red Cross are turning away evacuees who “make too much money”
The roots of this rumour is a Monday Facebook a post out of Gander, N.L., that has attracted more than 1,200 shares. “The red cross are turning people away who have home owners insurance or ‘make to much money’ (sic)” it reads. The first flaw in this post is that it assumes that evacuees are being asked to pull out their T4s and home insurance contracts whenever they register at Red Cross-run centres. They aren’t. Secondly, the evacuated Wood Buffalo area is home to some of the highest household incomes in Canada. The relief effort wouldn’t be getting tremendously far if it started screening out high earners. This is not to say that some evacuees aren’t feeling slighted by the Red Cross, but it’s not due to any official mandate. Strange things can happen when sleep-deprived Red Cross volunteers are trying to sort out tens of thousands of sleep-deprived evacuees.

Eco-activists started the fire
“Eco-Terrorism suspected in Ft.Mcmurray fire,” reads the headline in a screenshot of a fake CBC News story cruising around Facebook on Monday. The image is a complete fabrication. Fort McMurray is misspelled, for one, and the author of the story is listed as “Mark Lamoureu” a garbled take on the name of actual CBC web writer Mack Lamoureux. “If you’re going to make a fake story with my name on it please have the decency of spelling it correctly,” wrote Lamoureux in a Tweet. There’s also the simple fact that lighting Fort McMurray on fire isn’t as easy as it looks. MWF-009, the fire that swept through Fort McMurray, was only one of several fires that started in the Fort McMurray area three days before the evacuation order. Even the most diabolical eco-terrorist could not possibly have anticipated the perfect combination of dry conditions and high winds that would have turned MWF-009 into a firestorm.


 

Random arsonists are roaming Fort McMurray
This rumour actually attracted RCMP attention. Alerted by the possibility that a shadowy arsonist was gleefully setting an empty Fort McMurray alight, workers in the area were asked to keep on guard for lone wanderers. The mysterious fires that prompted the rumour were later found to be flaring up hotspots, a common phenomenon in forest fires. Also, Fort McMurray is a remote city now populated almost exclusively by police, utility workers and firefighters just waiting to get their hands on a suspected arsonist. If some fire starter was roaming the oilsands capital, he wouldn’t get far — although the jury may still be out on a suspicious Prairie Creek fire suspected of being a case of insurance fraud. 

ISIL started the fire
Easily the most idiotic rumour started in the wake of the Fort McMurray fire. This week, the website ConservativeFans.com ran with the recklessly unsourced allegation that a man with purported ISIL connections had taken responsibility for the fire. Their evidence? A comment on TheRebel.media by a “Yannie Znayew.” “Ha! With a few more matches, maybe me and the rest of my NDP socialist buddies can bring the tar sands industry to its knees,” it read. Not exactly a smoking gun, particularly since the name “Yannie Znayew” sounds suspiciously like the Russian phrase for “I don’t know.” To be clear: The cause of the fire is unknown, Yannie Znayew is a fabrication and this isn’t the first time ConservativeFans has gone viral with verifiably incorrect fear mongering. The internet’s leading myth debunker, Snopes, has a more in-depth takedown here



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Conspiracy theories spread like wildfire.


 I see what you did there . .  .evileye



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Conspiracy theories spread like wildfire.


 I see what you did there . .  .evileye



 Couldn't help myself....confuse


 Yes, I chuckled out loud & scared the dogs.

I hope you're both proud of yourselves!!!

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Another 8000 people evacuated in Fort Mac.  The wildfire grew overnight by 25% last night and wiped out at least two northern workcamps.  And they had JUST started letting people go home.

 

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/alberta/the-fort-mcmurray-disaster-read-the-latest-tuesday2/article29930041/

Fort McMurray fire: More evacuations ordered as blaze heads northward

Read the latest on the size of fire, the progress firefighters are making, the response by government and Canadians, and how the evacuees are coping. Also, the latest photos and videos of the fire’s devastating impact


THE LATEST

  • Officials are rethinking their plan to let people return to Fort McMurray after a new fire west of the city began heading north.
  • The flames have destroyed 665-room oil-sands work camp north of the city, the Blacksands Executive Lodge, Alberta Premier Rachel Notley said Tuesday. The lodge is owned by Horizon North Logistics Inc. of Calgary.
  • Several homes in Fort McMurray’s Dickinsfield neighbourhood were damaged Monday night in an explosion, the regional municipality says.
  • Oil-sands facilities and work camps north of Fort McMurray were ordered to evacuate Monday. Nineteen work camps and as many as 8,000 people were affected by the new evacuation order. Here’s what the industry has done to get its employees to safety.
  • A Conference Board of Canada report, released Tuesday but written before the latest fire developments, suggests rebuilding work later in the year would leave “only a slightly negative impact” to the province’s economy in the third quarter.
  • Air quality in the Fort McMurray area is extremely poor, Ms. Notley said Monday, warning that it could significantly hinder efforts to bring residents home again. The air-quality index is normally on a scale of one to 10; right now, it’s 38.
  • Alberta has released a fire damage surveillance app for Fort McMurray.
  • Fort McMurray evacuees stand to get about $2,000 each in aid through assistance organized by the Red Cross and the province.
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Displaced Fort McMurray residents are getting more resources to help ease their predicament. The Canadian government says it will work to speed up employment insurance claims; Canada Post has announced a mail forwarding programfree of charge for Fort McMurray and area residents; Western Union is waiving money-transfer fees so Canadians can send money to Alberta more easily. Here’s Marina Strauss’s report on how retailers, pharmacists and others are offering services for those in need, andCarrie Tait and Kelly Cryderman’s report on what oil-sands producers are doing to help their employees.

 
 


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Wait. Canada Post CHARGES for mail forwarding?

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Yup. Price gouging. I think it's up to $35. And generally it fails and your mail goes to the old address anyways.

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When I sold my house, I paid for 6 months of forwarding and it was close to $100

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I think it's comical that CP is offering free mail forwarding - where on earth would they deliver it to in Fort Mac??! Leave it sitting in a burned out structure just because there is nobody there to pay for forwarding? How would they even get it there??

And who is sending mail to Fort Mac right now anyways??

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I think it's comical that CP is offering free mail forwarding - where on earth would they deliver it to in Fort Mac??! Leave it sitting in a burned out structure just because there is nobody there to pay for forwarding? How would they even get it there??

And who is sending mail to Fort Mac right now anyways??


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ed11563 wrote:
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I think it's comical that CP is offering free mail forwarding - where on earth would they deliver it to in Fort Mac??! Leave it sitting in a burned out structure just because there is nobody there to pay for forwarding? How would they even get it there??

And who is sending mail to Fort Mac right now anyways??


Bills.

 


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