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huskerbb · Guru

RE: More liberal illogic

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
FNW wrote:
The BLS reported in 2015 that 90% of the meat packers made $17.37, with only 20% earning $9.19, with a mean of $12.70. So basically, a few, probably those entering this field start low and end up earning close to $18.00 per hour, as husker has indicated. The average, or "mean" rate, is typically lower than actual salaries because it does not take into consideration experience and time on the job. Also, what might be considered a menial salary in NYC would be considered a very good salary in more remote areas where cost of living is much lower.
As many make over $12.70 as under.

Would you work in a slaughterhouse for $13 bucks an hour?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

huskerbb wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
Plus, let's say it's $13 or even 12. That's 150% of minimum wage with full benefits. That's a good job and people should take it rather than sit in their ass on welfare. It's good, honest work.
Actually, that's not true in several states, now. And people doing hard labor should be making more than people saying "do you want fries with that?"
The whole point, Husker, is if they don't pay better, they are not going to have people willing to do those jobs when people can make more elsewhere or on Welfare.
Then we should cut welfare.

Absolutely, we should cut welfare. But companies should also pay better for hard jobs.

huskerbb · Guru

They will f the labor pool shrinks--but it won't matter--Americans don't want to work.

huskerbb · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
FNW wrote:
The BLS reported in 2015 that 90% of the meat packers made $17.37, with only 20% earning $9.19, with a mean of $12.70. So basically, a few, probably those entering this field start low and end up earning close to $18.00 per hour, as husker has indicated. The average, or "mean" rate, is typically lower than actual salaries because it does not take into consideration experience and time on the job. Also, what might be considered a menial salary in NYC would be considered a very good salary in more remote areas where cost of living is much lower.
As many make over $12.70 as under.
Would you work in a slaughterhouse for $13 bucks an hour?

Of course I would if I needed to feed my family. It's good, honest work and has good benefits. Many people do it.

huskerbb · Guru

If you think I'm scared of work, or won't cut meat--you are sadly mistaken. I've done both.

I did more physical work before I was 13 than most white collar workers in the U.S. will do in their entire lives--and I didn't get paid squat.

FNW · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
huskerbb wrote:
FNW wrote:
The BLS reported in 2015 that 90% of the meat packers made $17.37, with only 20% earning $9.19, with a mean of $12.70. So basically, a few, probably those entering this field start low and end up earning close to $18.00 per hour, as husker has indicated. The average, or "mean" rate, is typically lower than actual salaries because it does not take into consideration experience and time on the job. Also, what might be considered a menial salary in NYC would be considered a very good salary in more remote areas where cost of living is much lower.
As many make over $12.70 as under.
Would you work in a slaughterhouse for $13 bucks an hour?

If I were physically able and I had mouths to feed, absolutely. I doubt I would get hired because of my strength (or lack thereof), but yeah, I would take it on if it meant having a roof over my head and food in my belly (and my kids').

I took a second job doing telemarketing for the local paper when I was fresh out of law school, to pay the bills. They wouldn't hire me as a waitress because I had no experience. DH was laid off years ago (before we met) and delivered pizzas for Dominos. Demeaning for a guy with a BA from Wharton and an MBA from VA Tech.

People who want to work will take on jobs most won't.

Dona Worry Be Happy · Vette's SS!!

We start people out at $13, more if they have experience. It doesn't matter. They don't want to use their muscles or get tired or dirty.
And yes, full time job.

apple · Guru

Dona Worry Be Happy wrote:
We start people out at $13, more if they have experience. It doesn't matter. They don't want to use their muscles or get tired or dirty.
And yes, full time job.

How many hours per week and what is the percentage of deductions taken at source?

Trying to do the math....

huskerbb · Guru

10 years ago, I toured a tobacco farm that used Mexicans for labor (legal workers). He was asked the question why didn't he hire some local high school kids or something. He said he offered $15 an hour and didn't get a single application.