TOTALLY GEEKED!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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I agree that minimum wage jobs arent' intended as living wages. However, my point is that our trade policies have so ravaged our nation that there is very little left for anyone to do.

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 While I think many of our policies are screwed up, there are still jobs out there.  People may need to relocate for some of them, but they are there.

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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Well, i agree. You might have to move to a better economy. However, that isnt always so easy once you buy a home and get settled. For instance, DH has a very good job but would be tough for him to find a similar job anywhere else if i lost my job. So, moving wouldn't necessarily have the gain you might think. I think the older you get, the tougher and less sense it might be to make that kind of move. Obviously for someone starting out, now is the time.

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 Life isn't always easy.  If I lost my job, I'd probably have to drive truck at this point--which I would not really want to do full time or long term--but if I needed to I'd do it.

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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Well, i agree. You might have to move to a better economy. However, that isnt always so easy once you buy a home and get settled. For instance, DH has a very good job but would be tough for him to find a similar job anywhere else if i lost my job. So, moving wouldn't necessarily have the gain you might think. I think the older you get, the tougher and less sense it might be to make that kind of move. Obviously for someone starting out, now is the time.

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 Life isn't always easy.  If I lost my job, I'd probably have to drive truck at this point--which I would not really want to do full time or long term--but if I needed to I'd do it.

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 Yes.  And, if i had to work at Walmart, i would.  You do what you gotta do.  I just ran into a friend who is now working at Walmart.  I hadn't seen her in a month or two and she is cashier.  I respect that.  Do what you gotta do.

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 I would, also--but it would be very temporary.

How is that everyone else's problem? I didn't decide to squirt out those kids.

I'm not against a reasonable minimum wage hike. Portland raised theirs to $10.10/hour which I think is reasonable. It didn't affect a great deal. It wasn't high enough to really squeeze businesses, but was at least somewhat more in line with cost of living.

$15 an hour is just too much. Several fast food chains have said it will drive them to cut workers and put in kiosks.

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weltschmerz wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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How is that everyone else's problem? I didn't decide to squirt out those kids.

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Yeah, they should starve. Not your problem. 

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 I've said it many times before.  I don't mind paying for some food--but those same people smoke, drink, have Internet, buy chips, soda, and candy, and drive newer cars than ive had for most of my married life. 

we aren't paying for food.  We are subsidizing a lifestyle.

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Really? You know every WIC parent, and they smoke and drink? You know that the guy in the OP has a brand new car?

You know every single woman who can't afford daycare is lounging around, eating chips?

That's quite the accomplishment.

 

Yeah, when you hear the morbidly obese tell you they work soooo Haarrrddd! Uh huh.

weltschmerz wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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Yeah, a lot of them ARE. A lot of them are lazy loser lump drains on society. Yup.

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Your Christian heart always fills me with joy ad hope. 

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 Good to hear!  

How can you work if you can't afford daycare?

weltschmerz wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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weltschmerz wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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How is that everyone else's problem? I didn't decide to squirt out those kids.

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Yeah, they should starve. Not your problem. 

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 I've said it many times before.  I don't mind paying for some food--but those same people smoke, drink, have Internet, buy chips, soda, and candy, and drive newer cars than ive had for most of my married life. 

we aren't paying for food.  We are subsidizing a lifestyle.

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Really? You know every WIC parent, and they smoke and drink? You know that the guy in the OP has a brand new car?

You know every single woman who can't afford daycare is lounging around, eating chips?

That's quite the accomplishment.

 

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 Every time someone comes up with an idea to control that--people in the system are against it.

When Kansas implemented VERY reasonable limits such as not buying steak or lobster with food stamps, or not being able to use benefits at places like swimming pools, you would have thought the sky was falling.

If we are going to help people I would MUCH rather help those who are helping themselves. Giving assistance to people who are working and trying but can't make ends meet is sensible. Reward those who are making an effort. It will help them stay in the workforce and not give up. When the alternative is stay home and have your needs met, why would you go to work?! So let's help the ones working. Some are physically not able to work, and I want to see if they can be trained for phone work, data entry, etc first. Not every job requires you to be physically active. If they can't work, then help them. But if you are single and you have kids, you should be working. I think a subsidy for day care is appropriate. But in order to get it, you need to be employed. I think the subsidies should only be for the employed.

You cannot purchase hot prepared foods - like rotisserie chicken. But cold prepared foods are ok. So potato salad or sushi or any prepared food that is then packaged and stored cold (day old rotisserie chicken) is fine to use food stamps for.

Mellow Momma wrote:

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If we are going to help people I would MUCH rather help those who are helping themselves. Giving assistance to people who are working and trying but can't make ends meet is sensible. Reward those who are making an effort. It will help them stay in the workforce and not give up. When the alternative is stay home and have your needs met, why would you go to work?! So let's help the ones working. Some are physically not able to work, and I want to see if they can be trained for phone work, data entry, etc first. Not every job requires you to be physically active. If they can't work, then help them. But if you are single and you have kids, you should be working. I think a subsidy for day care is appropriate. But in order to get it, you need to be employed. I think the subsidies should only be for the employed.

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 I agree--but listen to the left howl and b!itch when states implement requirements to work in order to get Food stamps.

huskerbb wrote:

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Mellow Momma wrote:

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If we are going to help people I would MUCH rather help those who are helping themselves. Giving assistance to people who are working and trying but can't make ends meet is sensible. Reward those who are making an effort. It will help them stay in the workforce and not give up. When the alternative is stay home and have your needs met, why would you go to work?! So let's help the ones working. Some are physically not able to work, and I want to see if they can be trained for phone work, data entry, etc first. Not every job requires you to be physically active. If they can't work, then help them. But if you are single and you have kids, you should be working. I think a subsidy for day care is appropriate. But in order to get it, you need to be employed. I think the subsidies should only be for the employed.

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 I agree--but listen to the left howl and b!itch when states implement requirements to work in order to get Food stamps.

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 Again...for the billionth time...I am part of "the left" and I don't think that way. It's only a vocal minority who think that. Granted, they are the most vocal, but what incentive to the rest of us have to speak out when "the right" (actually it's just the vocal right) puts all liberals in the same bucket? 

Mellow Momma wrote:

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You cannot purchase hot prepared foods - like rotisserie chicken. But cold prepared foods are ok. So potato salad or sushi or any prepared food that is then packaged and stored cold (day old rotisserie chicken) is fine to use food stamps for.

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 Yeah. I know.

But after working 12 hour days, 12 days straight, sometimes you just wanted to feed the kids and crash.

Not warm the cold chicken.

What about the fake crab and lobster? The kids loved that stuff.

Mellow Momma wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Mellow Momma wrote:

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If we are going to help people I would MUCH rather help those who are helping themselves. Giving assistance to people who are working and trying but can't make ends meet is sensible. Reward those who are making an effort. It will help them stay in the workforce and not give up. When the alternative is stay home and have your needs met, why would you go to work?! So let's help the ones working. Some are physically not able to work, and I want to see if they can be trained for phone work, data entry, etc first. Not every job requires you to be physically active. If they can't work, then help them. But if you are single and you have kids, you should be working. I think a subsidy for day care is appropriate. But in order to get it, you need to be employed. I think the subsidies should only be for the employed.

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 I agree--but listen to the left howl and b!itch when states implement requirements to work in order to get Food stamps.

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 Again...for the billionth time...I am part of "the left" and I don't think that way. It's only a vocal minority who think that. Granted, they are the most vocal, but what incentive to the rest of us have to speak out when "the right" (actually it's just the vocal right) puts all liberals in the same bucket? 

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 Read a headline once in awhile.  It's not the conservatives who oppose such policies.  It's NOT a "vocal minority".  If you want things to change--vote differently.  Otherwise, you support what you vote for. 

flan327 wrote:

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Mellow Momma wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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Mellow Momma wrote:

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If we are going to help people I would MUCH rather help those who are helping themselves. Giving assistance to people who are working and trying but can't make ends meet is sensible. Reward those who are making an effort. It will help them stay in the workforce and not give up. When the alternative is stay home and have your needs met, why would you go to work?! So let's help the ones working. Some are physically not able to work, and I want to see if they can be trained for phone work, data entry, etc first. Not every job requires you to be physically active. If they can't work, then help them. But if you are single and you have kids, you should be working. I think a subsidy for day care is appropriate. But in order to get it, you need to be employed. I think the subsidies should only be for the employed.

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 I agree--but listen to the left howl and b!itch when states implement requirements to work in order to get Food stamps.

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 Again...for the billionth time...I am part of "the left" and I don't think that way. It's only a vocal minority who think that. Granted, they are the most vocal, but what incentive to the rest of us have to speak out when "the right" (actually it's just the vocal right) puts all liberals in the same bucket? 

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 Oh, FFS, "they" know the left better than we know ourselves...

flan

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 We know the bullschitt your party endorses. Yet you have never disavowed them. You are part of the problem.  Hypocrites ad nauseum.  But I repeat myself. ...

huskerbb wrote:

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The SUREST sign of what you support--is how you vote.

You are voting for ALL of their policy positions because they won't pick and choose even if you want them to.

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 Funny...I dont remember seeing you in the voting booth with me. You have no way of knowing how I vote. What a ridicilous statement. 

Mellow Momma wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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I have see a lot of Repos criticize repo politicians and policies. But, i have NEVER seen a Dem or liberal criticize ANYONE on their side of the aisle. They never do.

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 Well Dona, flan and I all have stated that we think Hillary is a poor choice. I know that I have spoken out about others in the past...not that it matters or that you will remember or believe it. 

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It's these grandiose statements that make me stabby.

It HAS happened. The fact that YOU refuse to see it is not OUR problem.

flan

Mellow Momma wrote:

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I disagree. He is working. That's a huge start. It may not pay enough now, but if he works hard and betters himself, he will earn more. This is the type of person we shouldn't mind supporting - people who are working to do better.

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 Yes. There is a HUGE difference between helping someone who is working and trying to do right, and helping lazy people who just want to get what they can from hardworking taxpayers.

 

And I'm as fiscally conservative as they come, but the way this lady in the video tries to teach her son a life lesson by humiliating and degrading a total stranger in public is beyond disgusting. I worry about what the son really learned from this display.

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Mellow Momma wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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I have see a lot of Repos criticize repo politicians and policies. But, i have NEVER seen a Dem or liberal criticize ANYONE on their side of the aisle. They never do.

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 Well Dona, flan and I all have stated that we think Hillary is a poor choice. I know that I have spoken out about others in the past...not that it matters or that you will remember or believe it. 

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 That is not true.

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 Hillary is a poor choice.

Happy now?

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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And, you will vote for her and support her poor policies.

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 Trump is a nightmare. You will never convince me otherwise.

flan

And we have both stated our opinions.

flan