The thing is....these ?? people have been among us for many years. And by ?? I mean the ones confused as to their gender. But we never realized it. If they look like a woman, then why would we think anything of it if we see them in the bathroom. It's not like women's stalls don't have doors. And I can understand why someone who looked like a woman would not want to use the men's room. It would not be safe for ??. This law allowing men in women's restroom opens it up to men who look like men using women's room just because they feel like it. No. Use your own room. And if it's a ?? woman who thinks she's a man, she can use the stall like they have been for years. Where is the safety problem? Why is it suddenly a problem? How many stories have made the headlines where a trans is attacked in a restroom? Not the trans who sell their bodies and are attacked when their john realizes they weren't getting what they paid for. I mean real trans who use the bathroom of their identification and are attacked. I would be interested in hearing about those cases.
They should of just not said anything. The true transvestites most likely wished that everyone would just assumed they were a woman and leave it at that. The whole "let them use a woman's bathroom because I feel like a woman today" will attract all kinds of jerks.
The next time you’re in Target and one of the employees asks you if they can help you find anything, maybe you should say where their stock price went.
As you no doubt know, the retail giant has been the target (ho, ho) of a massive boycott after its support for “transgender rights” led the company to allow customers to use whatever dressing rooms and bathrooms they so desired.
According to Business Insider, that decision has led to Target shares dropping 9 percent this month. That’s a grand total of $4 billion in stock losses. Nice work!
While Target’s shares are up 3 percent this year as a whole, it’s also worth pointing out that the retailer had a cataclysmically bad fiscal year in 2015, with the collapse of its nascent Canadian operations and softer than expected sales. In other words, the transgender bathroom issue has clearly arrested the stock’s rebound.
There are also now over 1.2 million people who have pledged to boycott Target, and a YouGov survey found that the number of people who planned to shop at the store in the next week was down to 36 percent from 42 percent in the past couple of weeks.
In spite of that, CEO Brian Cornell apparently isn’t fazed — publicly, anyway.
“We took a stance and we are going to continue to embrace our belief of diversity and inclusion,” Cornell said earlier this week. However, he seems to mistake “diversity and inclusion” with “advancing the politically correct agenda.”
Full disclosure: Once upon a time, back in my student days, I used to work at Target. In all the years I worked there, obviously before this policy was enacted, I never saw a single store employee (or “team member,” in Target corporate jargon) ever stopping women at the door to the bathroom, checking their birth certificates or the size of their Adam’s apple.
I did, however, witness more than one suspected pervert thwarted by our store security. In fact, from my experience, I would argue that such incidents are much more common than retailers would like to let on, for obvious reasons.
The reason for bathroom laws isn’t to stop transgender people from using their chosen bathroom, it’s to stop perverts. What Target did has no effect on the transgender community. It does, however, have an effect on their ability to stop sickos — and on whether people feel safe shopping there or not.
The reason for bathroom laws isn’t to stop transgender people from using their chosen bathroom, it’s to stop perverts. What Target did has no effect on the transgender community. It does, however, have an effect on their ability to stop sickos — and on whether people feel safe shopping there or not.
What is the purpose of the Law that was passed then? The status quo was working fine, now it is illegal for a transgender person who appears to be a woman to use the womens room.
I took that as the law making men use men's room and women using women's room. Yes, I think the status quo worked just fine. Target wants to allow men into women's room and vice versa. And so does our president.
I don't think anyone has a problem with someone who appears to look like a woman using the woman's room. It's never been a problem before, and I don't see it as a problem now. But I think it might be a little off-putting to see some hairy, sweaty ball scratching 6'2" man (who looks like a man) peering over the top of my stall.
I took that as the law making men use men's room and women using women's room. Yes, I think the status quo worked just fine. Target wants to allow men into women's room and vice versa. And so does our president.
I don't think anyone has a problem with someone who appears to look like a woman using the woman's room. It's never been a problem before, and I don't see it as a problem now. But I think it might be a little off-putting to see some hairy, sweaty ball scratching 6'2" man (who looks like a man) peering over the top of my stall.
This was a non-issue until the liberal media made it one.
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The true test for this boycott will be this Christmas shopping season.
It could be death for the corporation.
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I took that as the law making men use men's room and women using women's room. Yes, I think the status quo worked just fine. Target wants to allow men into women's room and vice versa. And so does our president.
I don't think anyone has a problem with someone who appears to look like a woman using the woman's room. It's never been a problem before, and I don't see it as a problem now. But I think it might be a little off-putting to see some hairy, sweaty ball scratching 6'2" man (who looks like a man) peering over the top of my stall.
Target always has allowed people to use the washroom of which their gender identifies. That policy has never changed.
I took that as the law making men use men's room and women using women's room. Yes, I think the status quo worked just fine. Target wants to allow men into women's room and vice versa. And so does our president.
I don't think anyone has a problem with someone who appears to look like a woman using the woman's room. It's never been a problem before, and I don't see it as a problem now. But I think it might be a little off-putting to see some hairy, sweaty ball scratching 6'2" man (who looks like a man) peering over the top of my stall.
Target always has allowed people to use the washroom of which their gender identifies. That policy has never changed.
So why announce it so publically? Just so the perverts know they can use any bathroom they want at Target? It must be because there is NO other reason to set the pervs up so nicely.
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The true test for this boycott will be this Christmas shopping season.
It could be death for the corporation.
Don't put your party hat on yet.
I'm not celebrating. Won't be.
I've stated before, there isn't a Target near me. I don't shop at Target.
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I took that as the law making men use men's room and women using women's room. Yes, I think the status quo worked just fine. Target wants to allow men into women's room and vice versa. And so does our president.
I don't think anyone has a problem with someone who appears to look like a woman using the woman's room. It's never been a problem before, and I don't see it as a problem now. But I think it might be a little off-putting to see some hairy, sweaty ball scratching 6'2" man (who looks like a man) peering over the top of my stall.
Target always has allowed people to use the washroom of which their gender identifies. That policy has never changed.
You keep saying that. It shows you really don't understand the issue.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
I took that as the law making men use men's room and women using women's room. Yes, I think the status quo worked just fine. Target wants to allow men into women's room and vice versa. And so does our president.
I don't think anyone has a problem with someone who appears to look like a woman using the woman's room. It's never been a problem before, and I don't see it as a problem now. But I think it might be a little off-putting to see some hairy, sweaty ball scratching 6'2" man (who looks like a man) peering over the top of my stall.
Target always has allowed people to use the washroom of which their gender identifies. That policy has never changed.
You keep saying that. It shows you really don't understand the issue.
No, quite the opposite really. It shows that your ignorance is bliss. :)
It's got nothing to do with transgenders using the bathroom actually. It's the fact that ANYONE can say they're transgender and walk right in. Bury your head about what the problem is so you can sound oh so virtuous sticking up for those poor transgenders. I'm sure they appreciate your pity...lol
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For me, it also has to do more with Target's response to concerns about this. They just don't care that women and children don't feel safe with their policy. And if they don't care about me, I'm not giving them my money.
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What is the purpose of the Law that was passed then? The status quo was working fine, now it is illegal for a transgender person who appears to be a woman to use the womens room.
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I'm just spit-balling here, but I believe the original laws (like in Charlotte) where they were making it legal for transgenders to use the restroom appropriate to the gender that they identify as was simply to make it no longer illegal for them to be in there. It was intended to allow people to pee or poop in peace. Unfortunately it created a whole other controversy because some bad people likely would try and take advantage of it. Even though the bad things that they want to do (whatever those things may be) are still illegal.
The purpose of that North Carolina law is a backlash response to that, and is intended to protect from the abuse (of the Charlotte law) that could happen.
Personally, I don't know that there's a good answer to this problem, because men dressed like women and acting feminine are at risk of serious bodily injury if they go into the Men's Room (especially in many southern states).
Maybe it's time we moved to singular unisex restrooms with shared sink areas and individual toilet stalls with floor to ceiling walls and regular doors that don't have any peekable gaps.
What is the purpose of the Law that was passed then? The status quo was working fine, now it is illegal for a transgender person who appears to be a woman to use the womens room. - apple
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I'm just spit-balling here, but I believe the original laws (like in Charlotte) where they were making it legal for transgenders to use the restroom appropriate to the gender that they identify as was simply to make it no longer illegal for them to be in there. It was intended to allow people to pee or poop in peace. Unfortunately it created a whole other controversy because some bad people likely would try and take advantage of it. Even though the bad things that they want to do (whatever those things may be) are still illegal.
The purpose of that North Carolina law is a backlash response to that, and is intended to protect from the abuse (of the Charlotte law) that could happen.
Personally, I don't know that there's a good answer to this problem, because men dressed like women and acting feminine are at risk of serious bodily injury if they go into the Men's Room (especially in many southern states).
Maybe it's time we moved to singular unisex restrooms with shared sink areas and individual toilet stalls with floor to ceiling walls and regular doors that don't have any peekable gaps.
Oh this is what will happen and at a huge cost to companies, or those in a mall just won't have bathrooms for the public.
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Someone needs to explain how all this supposed to work in the Schools. Does the Transgendered (TG) kid have to first get permission from the Principal or notify the principal? Is the Principal even allowed to ask a boy if he is in the girls' room why he is there? How exactly does this work in the real world? Or is the Principal not even allowed to say anything? Obama makes an edict and then there is no explanation about how any of this is actually supposed to work. If you ask the TG then you are getting too personal or invading their privacy. If you don't ask, you don't know who is in the girls' bathroom and why.