TOTALLY GEEKED!

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

RE: Sex abuse victim in her 20s allowed to choose euthanasia in Holland

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Tinydancer wrote:
Usually if someone is suffering from hallucinations they ARE considered incompetent. Throw in obsessions and compulsions and I can't see how she wasn't incompetent. All that with no medical degree even.

You have no clue how many people in society suffer from OCD, obviously. There are mild forms.

And the hallucinations...Were they auditory only, or visual? How often did they occur?

flan

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

flan327 wrote:
just Czech wrote:
The world is becoming more fvcked up by the minute.

Why didn't they continue intensive mental health care for more than 2 years?

Oh, right, cheaper to knock her off.
Because it was...wait for it...HER CHOICE.
flan

When a person is suffering from several mental illnesses, they tend to make poor choices. In other words, they are not in a mentally healthy state to make an objective death decision.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

just Czech wrote:
flan327 wrote:
just Czech wrote:
The world is becoming more fvcked up by the minute.

Why didn't they continue intensive mental health care for more than 2 years?

Oh, right, cheaper to knock her off.
Because it was...wait for it...HER CHOICE.
flan
When a person is suffering from several mental illnesses, they tend to make poor choices. In other words, they are not in a mentally healthy state to make an objective death decision.

Which is why her request had to be approved by a panel of doctors and psychiatrists.

flan

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

flan327 wrote:
just Czech wrote:
flan327 wrote:
just Czech wrote:
The world is becoming more fvcked up by the minute.

Why didn't they continue intensive mental health care for more than 2 years?

Oh, right, cheaper to knock her off.
Because it was...wait for it...HER CHOICE.
flan
When a person is suffering from several mental illnesses, they tend to make poor choices. In other words, they are not in a mentally healthy state to make an objective death decision.
Which is why her request had to be approved by a panel of doctors and psychiatrists.
flan

The panel was to quick to kill, IMHO.

Tinydancer · Guru

flan327 wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Usually if someone is suffering from hallucinations they ARE considered incompetent. Throw in obsessions and compulsions and I can't see how she wasn't incompetent. All that with no medical degree even.
You have no clue how many people in society suffer from OCD, obviously. There are mild forms.
And the hallucinations...Were they auditory only, or visual? How often did they occur?
flan

I suffer from a mild form of it myself. Stop acting like you know more about this than anyone else because you don't. I can't even believe you think it's ok that these dr.'s helped her kill herself at such a young age. There are enough issues that she shouldn't have been able to even ask for this. You really don't even see how idiotic that sounds.

FNW · Guru

In this country, the mentally insane cannot even stand trial, let alone decide whether they can off themselves. That being said, suicide is a sin in my beliefs, but there is something to be said about suicide which does not harm or injure the life if an innocent at the same time. My BFF's son jumped off a bridge over 13 years ago. While she still mourns her loss, she is grateful he did not take anyone with him.

Bring back the asylums.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Tinydancer wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Usually if someone is suffering from hallucinations they ARE considered incompetent. Throw in obsessions and compulsions and I can't see how she wasn't incompetent. All that with no medical degree even.
You have no clue how many people in society suffer from OCD, obviously. There are mild forms.
And the hallucinations...Were they auditory only, or visual? How often did they occur?
flan
I suffer from a mild form of it myself. Stop acting like you know more about this than anyone else because you don't. I can't even believe you think it's ok that these dr.'s helped her kill herself at such a young age. There are enough issues that she shouldn't have been able to even ask for this. You really don't even see how idiotic that sounds.

This.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
This is in another country. For now.

But with enough people with Flan's attitude, and it'll be here in America in no time.

Here's a question, if this woman had tried to enter a legal agreement, would she have been consider competent?

If not, how could she possibly be competent enough to decide life or death?
Mentally ill does NOT mean incompetent.
flan
Yeah - this sounds competent:

Her condition included severe anorexia, chronic depression and suicidal mood swings, tendencies to self-harm, hallucinations, obsessions and compulsions.
Where did you get your medical degree? I've forgotten.
The ONLY thing that might HINT at incompetent is hallucinations.
flan

They killed her b/c she's too mentally ill and disabled to function.

apple · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
Yep. I'm sure that was the easier and cheaper choice.

I really don't believe for a second that it was a financial decision.

She could have killed herself, many in her situation do. She chose the legal route.

She was allowed to end her life, legally.

The details of the case were documented by the Dutch Euthanasia Commission, which revealed that the woman began to suffer from mental disorders about 15 years ago. She was suffering from severe anorexia, chronic depression, suicidal mood swings, tendencies to self-harm, hallucinations, obsessions and compulsions. She was also almost entirely bedridden, according to a report.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/dutch-child-sex-abuse-victim-incurable-post-traumatic-stress-disorder-allowed-choose-euthanasia-1559432

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

apple wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Yep. I'm sure that was the easier and cheaper choice.
I really don't believe for a second that it was a financial decision.
She could have killed herself, many in her situation do. She chose the legal route.
She was allowed to end her life, legally.

The details of the case were documented by the Dutch Euthanasia Commission, which revealed that the woman began to suffer from mental disorders about 15 years ago. She was suffering from severe anorexia, chronic depression, suicidal mood swings, tendencies to self-harm, hallucinations, obsessions and compulsions. She was also almost entirely bedridden, according to a report.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/dutch-child-sex-abuse-victim-incurable-post-traumatic-stress-disorder-allowed-choose-euthanasia-1559432

See how they list suicidal mood swings and tendencies to self-harm as a mental disorder. They list a string of mental issues, including hallucinations, and yet allow her to make a decision about killing herself? And then help her do it?

That doesn't strike you as the least little bit contradictory? C'mon - I know you are smarter than that.

Tinydancer · Guru

Lots of legal things are wrong but this is wrong beyond belief. Right up there with killing your inconvenient child in the womb.

-- Edited by Tinydancer on Wednesday 11th of May 2016 01:02:03 PM

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

The plain fact is that it was EASIER to kill her.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
The plain fact is that it was EASIER to kill her.

So the doctors came to HER to suggest it?

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

apple wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Yep. I'm sure that was the easier and cheaper choice.
I really don't believe for a second that it was a financial decision.
She could have killed herself, many in her situation do. She chose the legal route.
She was allowed to end her life, legally.

The details of the case were documented by the Dutch Euthanasia Commission, which revealed that the woman began to suffer from mental disorders about 15 years ago. She was suffering from severe anorexia, chronic depression, suicidal mood swings, tendencies to self-harm, hallucinations, obsessions and compulsions. She was also almost entirely bedridden, according to a report.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/dutch-child-sex-abuse-victim-incurable-post-traumatic-stress-disorder-allowed-choose-euthanasia-1559432

You're wasting your energy...

flan

apple · Guru

FNW wrote:
In this country, the mentally insane cannot even stand trial, let alone decide whether they can off themselves. That being said, suicide is a sin in my beliefs, but there is something to be said about suicide which does not harm or injure the life if an innocent at the same time. My BFF's son jumped off a bridge over 13 years ago. While she still mourns her loss, she is grateful he did not take anyone with him.

Bring back the asylums.

Mental competence insofar as people not being considered "able" to make a life ending choice, is a huge concern of mine.

We (in general) seem to have a lot of compassion and understanding towards people who are suffering physically, but not the same for mental suffering.

The distinction would be that while a person who is suffering a physical terminal diagnosis cannot be cured. while many feel that mental illness and suffering can be cured

This all bodes to quality of life. Its a tough situation and while my feelings are not quite in line with the Netherlands rulings, I feel this will increasingly become an issue.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

FNW wrote:
In this country, the mentally insane cannot even stand trial, let alone decide whether they can off themselves. That being said, suicide is a sin in my beliefs, but there is something to be said about suicide which does not harm or injure the life if an innocent at the same time. My BFF's son jumped off a bridge over 13 years ago. While she still mourns her loss, she is grateful he did not take anyone with him.

Bring back the asylums.

Clinical depression is not insanity, though.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Usually if someone is suffering from hallucinations they ARE considered incompetent. Throw in obsessions and compulsions and I can't see how she wasn't incompetent. All that with no medical degree even.
You have no clue how many people in society suffer from OCD, obviously. There are mild forms.
And the hallucinations...Were they auditory only, or visual? How often did they occur?
flan
I suffer from a mild form of it myself. Stop acting like you know more about this than anyone else because you don't. I can't even believe you think it's ok that these dr.'s helped her kill herself at such a young age. There are enough issues that she shouldn't have been able to even ask for this. You really don't even see how idiotic that sounds.
This.

Not "anyone else," but certainly several posters here.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

apple wrote:
FNW wrote:
In this country, the mentally insane cannot even stand trial, let alone decide whether they can off themselves. That being said, suicide is a sin in my beliefs, but there is something to be said about suicide which does not harm or injure the life if an innocent at the same time. My BFF's son jumped off a bridge over 13 years ago. While she still mourns her loss, she is grateful he did not take anyone with him.

Bring back the asylums.
Mental competence insofar as people not being considered "able" to make a life ending choice, is a huge concern of mine.
We (in general) seem to have a lot of compassion and understanding towards people who are suffering physically, but not the same for mental suffering.
The distinction would be that while a person who is suffering a physical terminal diagnosis cannot be cured. while many feel that mental illness and suffering can be cured
This all bodes to quality of life. Its a tough situation and while my feelings are not quite in line with the Netherlands rulings, I feel this will increasingly become an issue.

Which is beyond sad, considering how many people DON'T get the help they need.

flan

weltschmerz · Guru

But regulators found that doctors had behaved properly in authorising the death of the sex abuse victim.

The study found that all therapies had been exhausted and that the woman was so weak that she was bedridden and totally dependent on others for her care.

“There was no prospect or hope for her,” the study said. “She had constantly felt that she was dying, but did not die.”

“The desire of the patient was to die,” the study said.

“The patient experienced her suffering as unbearable,” it continued. “The doctor was convinced that the patient’s suffering was unbearable … there were no acceptable options for the patient to relieve the suffering.”

The woman was mentally competent and able to request euthanasia, which was granted after the specialist treating her took the precaution of seeking the opinions of a second psychiatrist and a doctor.

http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2016/05/11/dutch-medics-euthanise-sex-abuse-abuse-victim/

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Wouldn't that mean Flan would need to go, too.

She said she's been suffering with depression AND anxiety.
WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?
You really need a hobby.
flan

Generally?

You.

Tinydancer · Guru

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Usually if someone is suffering from hallucinations they ARE considered incompetent. Throw in obsessions and compulsions and I can't see how she wasn't incompetent. All that with no medical degree even.
You have no clue how many people in society suffer from OCD, obviously. There are mild forms.
And the hallucinations...Were they auditory only, or visual? How often did they occur?
flan
I suffer from a mild form of it myself. Stop acting like you know more about this than anyone else because you don't. I can't even believe you think it's ok that these dr.'s helped her kill herself at such a young age. There are enough issues that she shouldn't have been able to even ask for this. You really don't even see how idiotic that sounds.
This.
Not "anyone else," but certainly several posters here.
flan

No you really don't. You may think you do but you are not an expert any more than anyone else. You really have a superiority complex don't you?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Wouldn't that mean Flan would need to go, too.

She said she's been suffering with depression AND anxiety.
WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?
You really need a hobby.
flan
Generally?
You.

And how many times have you stated that, if a person has a problem with a post, it's on THEM?

So if I suggest the same "remedy" for your autistic son...?

flan

Tinydancer · Guru

Must you always bring lilys family into your stupid arguments?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

When she's allowed to say that I should kill myself...yes.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
When she's allowed to say that I should kill myself...yes.

flan

She didn't say your children should be killed.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

apple wrote:
FNW wrote:
In this country, the mentally insane cannot even stand trial, let alone decide whether they can off themselves. That being said, suicide is a sin in my beliefs, but there is something to be said about suicide which does not harm or injure the life if an innocent at the same time. My BFF's son jumped off a bridge over 13 years ago. While she still mourns her loss, she is grateful he did not take anyone with him.

Bring back the asylums.
Mental competence insofar as people not being considered "able" to make a life ending choice, is a huge concern of mine.
We (in general) seem to have a lot of compassion and understanding towards people who are suffering physically, but not the same for mental suffering.
The distinction would be that while a person who is suffering a physical terminal diagnosis cannot be cured. while many feel that mental illness and suffering can be cured
This all bodes to quality of life. Its a tough situation and while my feelings are not quite in line with the Netherlands rulings, I feel this will increasingly become an issue.

I'm not in favor of just offing anyone, and certainly not in the government helping with that decision.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
When she's allowed to say that I should kill myself...yes.

flan
She didn't say your children should be killed.

Are you kidding me?

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

flan327 wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Usually if someone is suffering from hallucinations they ARE considered incompetent. Throw in obsessions and compulsions and I can't see how she wasn't incompetent. All that with no medical degree even.
You have no clue how many people in society suffer from OCD, obviously. There are mild forms.
And the hallucinations...Were they auditory only, or visual? How often did they occur?
flan

So you would be ok with ANYONE being euthanized?

I mean EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US have had something we had to deal with.

This one, abuse, hallucinations and compulsions.

Maybe the girl who is now blind on the other thread. I mean, her quality of life has drastically changed.

Amputees? PTSD?

Shoot, toe fungus.

Where do you draw the line?

The woman in the OP was improving.

Tinydancer · Guru

Let's bring itty bitty into it then.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

just Czech wrote:
flan327 wrote:
just Czech wrote:
flan327 wrote:
just Czech wrote:
The world is becoming more fvcked up by the minute.

Why didn't they continue intensive mental health care for more than 2 years?

Oh, right, cheaper to knock her off.
Because it was...wait for it...HER CHOICE.
flan
When a person is suffering from several mental illnesses, they tend to make poor choices. In other words, they are not in a mentally healthy state to make an objective death decision.
Which is why her request had to be approved by a panel of doctors and psychiatrists.
flan
The panel was to quick to kill, IMHO.

Wait.

A death panel.

But no way those will ever exist.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
When she's allowed to say that I should kill myself...yes.

flan
She didn't say your children should be killed.
Are you kidding me?
flan

Nope. You are the one that says it's ok to off people with mental illnesses. She was making a point. You have suffered from depression, a mental illness, therefore, you think it's ok for them to off you.

FNW · Guru

What I am opposed to, is permitting people with such mental disorders (where they are unable to cope with life) to remain among us, left untreated, and end up going on killing rampages. Bring back the asylums.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Wouldn't that mean Flan would need to go, too.

She said she's been suffering with depression AND anxiety.
WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM?
You really need a hobby.
flan
Generally?
You.

And how many times have you stated that, if a person has a problem with a post, it's on THEM?
So if I suggest the same "remedy" for your autistic son...?
flan

Oh, honey bunches of oats, it isnt the posts. It's you. The person. You are the problem, sweet cheeks.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
When she's allowed to say that I should kill myself...yes.

flan
She didn't say your children should be killed.
Are you kidding me?
flan
Nope. You are the one that says it's ok to off people with mental illnesses. She was making a point. You have suffered from depression, a mental illness, therefore, you think it's ok for them to off you.

THEM is the operative word. That indicates that it's NOT my choice.

flan

weltschmerz · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
just Czech wrote:
flan327 wrote:
just Czech wrote:
flan327 wrote:
just Czech wrote:
The world is becoming more fvcked up by the minute.

Why didn't they continue intensive mental health care for more than 2 years?

Oh, right, cheaper to knock her off.
Because it was...wait for it...HER CHOICE.
flan
When a person is suffering from several mental illnesses, they tend to make poor choices. In other words, they are not in a mentally healthy state to make an objective death decision.
Which is why her request had to be approved by a panel of doctors and psychiatrists.
flan
The panel was to quick to kill, IMHO.
Wait.
A death panel.
But no way those will ever exist.

Death panel? On what planet? You sound like Sarah Palin.....

"They're going to kill my Downs baby! Waaahhh!"

There's a huge difference between doctors arbitrarily deciding to kill someone, vs someone who asks a doctor to put them out of their misery.

Ohfour · Hooker

weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
just Czech wrote:
flan327 wrote:
just Czech wrote:
flan327 wrote:
just Czech wrote:
The world is becoming more fvcked up by the minute.

Why didn't they continue intensive mental health care for more than 2 years?

Oh, right, cheaper to knock her off.
Because it was...wait for it...HER CHOICE.
flan
When a person is suffering from several mental illnesses, they tend to make poor choices. In other words, they are not in a mentally healthy state to make an objective death decision.
Which is why her request had to be approved by a panel of doctors and psychiatrists.
flan
The panel was to quick to kill, IMHO.
Wait.
A death panel.
But no way those will ever exist.

Death panel? On what planet? You sound like Sarah Palin.....
"They're going to kill my Downs baby! Waaahhh!"
There's a huge difference between doctors arbitrarily deciding to kill someone, vs someone who asks a doctor to put them out of their misery.

Yeah, a crazy person. They should be able to decide to have themselves killed...*eyeroll*

weltschmerz · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
just Czech wrote:
flan327 wrote:
just Czech wrote:
flan327 wrote:
just Czech wrote:
The world is becoming more fvcked up by the minute.

Why didn't they continue intensive mental health care for more than 2 years?

Oh, right, cheaper to knock her off.
Because it was...wait for it...HER CHOICE.
flan
When a person is suffering from several mental illnesses, they tend to make poor choices. In other words, they are not in a mentally healthy state to make an objective death decision.
Which is why her request had to be approved by a panel of doctors and psychiatrists.
flan
The panel was to quick to kill, IMHO.
Wait.
A death panel.
But no way those will ever exist.

Death panel? On what planet? You sound like Sarah Palin.....
"They're going to kill my Downs baby! Waaahhh!"
There's a huge difference between doctors arbitrarily deciding to kill someone, vs someone who asks a doctor to put them out of their misery.

Yeah, a crazy person. They should be able to decide to have themselves killed...*eyeroll*

Yes, they should.

They're not deciding to have YOU killed. What's it to you?

Ohfour · Hooker

weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
just Czech wrote:
flan327 wrote:
just Czech wrote:
flan327 wrote:
just Czech wrote:
The world is becoming more fvcked up by the minute.

Why didn't they continue intensive mental health care for more than 2 years?

Oh, right, cheaper to knock her off.
Because it was...wait for it...HER CHOICE.
flan
When a person is suffering from several mental illnesses, they tend to make poor choices. In other words, they are not in a mentally healthy state to make an objective death decision.
Which is why her request had to be approved by a panel of doctors and psychiatrists.
flan
The panel was to quick to kill, IMHO.
Wait.
A death panel.
But no way those will ever exist.

Death panel? On what planet? You sound like Sarah Palin.....
"They're going to kill my Downs baby! Waaahhh!"
There's a huge difference between doctors arbitrarily deciding to kill someone, vs someone who asks a doctor to put them out of their misery.

Yeah, a crazy person. They should be able to decide to have themselves killed...*eyeroll*
Yes, they should.
They're not deciding to have YOU killed. What's it to you?

No, they shouldn't. If they are not able to stand trial or even take care of themselves, they should not be able to make life and death decisions...

weltschmerz · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
just Czech wrote:
flan327 wrote:
just Czech wrote:
flan327 wrote:
just Czech wrote:
The world is becoming more fvcked up by the minute.

Why didn't they continue intensive mental health care for more than 2 years?

Oh, right, cheaper to knock her off.
Because it was...wait for it...HER CHOICE.
flan
When a person is suffering from several mental illnesses, they tend to make poor choices. In other words, they are not in a mentally healthy state to make an objective death decision.
Which is why her request had to be approved by a panel of doctors and psychiatrists.
flan
The panel was to quick to kill, IMHO.
Wait.
A death panel.
But no way those will ever exist.

Death panel? On what planet? You sound like Sarah Palin.....
"They're going to kill my Downs baby! Waaahhh!"
There's a huge difference between doctors arbitrarily deciding to kill someone, vs someone who asks a doctor to put them out of their misery.

Yeah, a crazy person. They should be able to decide to have themselves killed...*eyeroll*
Yes, they should.
They're not deciding to have YOU killed. What's it to you?
No, they shouldn't. If they are not able to stand trial or even take care of themselves, they should not be able to make life and death decisions...

What are you babbling about? The doctors ruled that this young woman was mentally competent.

She'd be able to stand trial.

Ohfour · Hooker

Sure they did. After they said that her mental disorders were to much to cope with.

Idiots...

weltschmerz · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
Sure they did. After they said that her mental disorders were to much to cope with.

Idiots...

They should have consulted you first. After all, you know so much more than they do.

Ohfour · Hooker

weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Sure they did. After they said that her mental disorders were to much to cope with.

Idiots...
They should have consulted you first. After all, you know so much more than they do.

They let her die. Because she was so mentally fvcked up. But at the same time, she was sane.

And people really believe that crap...

weltschmerz · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Sure they did. After they said that her mental disorders were to much to cope with.

Idiots...
They should have consulted you first. After all, you know so much more than they do.
They let her die. Because she was so mentally fvcked up. But at the same time, she was sane.
And people really believe that crap...

Don't know what "mentally competent" means, do you?

I'm not surprised.

Ohfour · Hooker

weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Sure they did. After they said that her mental disorders were to much to cope with.

Idiots...
They should have consulted you first. After all, you know so much more than they do.
They let her die. Because she was so mentally fvcked up. But at the same time, she was sane.
And people really believe that crap...
Don't know what "mentally competent" means, do you?
I'm not surprised.

Sure I do. And people that are too fvcked up to live are not mentally competent...

apple · Guru

Oh brother....

So if you are deemed competent and you make a choice to die, by making that choice you are declaring yourself mentally incompetent?

Makes sense.... confuse

weltschmerz · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Sure they did. After they said that her mental disorders were to much to cope with.

Idiots...
They should have consulted you first. After all, you know so much more than they do.
They let her die. Because she was so mentally fvcked up. But at the same time, she was sane.
And people really believe that crap...
Don't know what "mentally competent" means, do you?
I'm not surprised.
Sure I do. And people that are too fvcked up to live are not mentally competent...

No, you don't. According to your logic, a thug who shoots 7 people at the mall and wounds 19 because he's depressed and suffers from PTSD, shouldn't have to stand trial.

Checkmate.

apple · Guru

Well played.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
weltschmerz wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Sure they did. After they said that her mental disorders were to much to cope with.

Idiots...
They should have consulted you first. After all, you know so much more than they do.
They let her die. Because she was so mentally fvcked up. But at the same time, she was sane.
And people really believe that crap...
Don't know what "mentally competent" means, do you?
I'm not surprised.
Sure I do. And people that are too fvcked up to live are not mentally competent...
No, you don't. According to your logic, a thug who shoots 7 people at the mall and wounds 19 because he's depressed and suffers from PTSD, shouldn't have to stand trial.
Checkmate.

Welcome to the world of legally insane vs. mentally ill. They are not the same thing.

But the illogic of this death panel (that is what they are) deciding that a woman is both too mentally ill to live and yet competent enough to decide to end her life is absolutely incredible.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I have been thinking, and since I only have till October, I have some last requests.

I want bacon every meal.

I want a two week trip to Disney with my kids.

And I want to go to a drive in movie, in Baby, with Jensen and Jared and then go to Jared bar for whiskey and bacon cheeseburgers.

Oh. And most importantly, every year on the anniversary of my death, you all have to wear a flamingo of some kind in my honor.