I actually disagree with their statement somewhat. It is a person's duty to some degree to make sure they aren't assaulted. You know the simple basic safety measures. Stay in well lit places at night, be aware of your surrounding, stay away from bad neighborhoods, don't walk around with ear buds in so someone can sneak up on you, etc..........
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I actually disagree with their statement somewhat. It is a person's duty to some degree to make sure they aren't assaulted. You know the simple basic safety measures. Stay in well lit places at night, be aware of your surrounding, stay away from bad neighborhoods, don't walk around with ear buds in so someone can sneak up on you, etc..........
Well, that's getting harder and harder to do. Men are allowed everywhere, now. A woman can't even use the restroom without wondering if a man will be in there.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
There is such a thing as too far, I am all for equality and I feel women have made great strides in the work place.
As the Old boys club dies off even more changes will be made.
I don't think men need to be put down, degraded or maligned in order to achieve equality. Some of these feminist groups are over the top...extreme.
I miss when men were men and women were glad of it.
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Sorry, aergia, but according to Tig, women are responsible for their own safety.
Yup - always be aware of your surroundings, have something to use as a weapon, be trained in some form of self-protection, stay in groups and be pro-active about protecting yourself. Taking care of you is definitely your responsibility. Nobody else will take responsibility for you and you can't expect them to.
Sorry, aergia, but according to Tig, women are responsible for their own safety.
Yup - always be aware of your surroundings, have something to use as a weapon, be trained in some form of self-protection, stay in groups and be pro-active about protecting yourself. Taking care of you is definitely your responsibility. Nobody else will take responsibility for you and you can't expect them to.
They certainly won't. They won't even let you feel safe in a bathroom. And if the women get attacked, shame on them - they obviously weren't doing enough to protect themselves.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
this is a new account opened on apparently Twitter. @feminismvibes This is their opening statement.
I wonder what you folks think about it:
It's not a woman's duty to make sure she isn't assaulted when she leaves the house. It's your duty not to assault her.
There are many other statements, I wonder what you would add to it...
But that's dumb.
OF COURSE people shouldn't commit crimes. Duh.
But simply saying that isn't going to prevent anything. Criminals don't base their activities based on what any person, group of people, or even the entire society says or thinks.
What, you think just simply telling a criminal not to commit a crime will work? You mean all our jails are chock full of criminals simply because sh!t, we didn't think to tell them they shouldn't have done that?
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.
You mean women shouldnt be able to sasshay down the street wearing nothing but a smile and not expect some kind of unwanted attention?
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Sorry, aergia, but according to Tig, women are responsible for their own safety.
Yup - always be aware of your surroundings, have something to use as a weapon, be trained in some form of self-protection, stay in groups and be pro-active about protecting yourself. Taking care of you is definitely your responsibility. Nobody else will take responsibility for you and you can't expect them to.
It's NOT an either/or situation.
You want to walk down a street in a dangerous part of town at night by yourself, be my guest.
You want to leave your car unlocked & parked in a dark corner of the lot, ditto.
OK I withdraw my question because I no longer know how to talk to folks here.
There is a unique set of mindsets here.
HAve a great weekend
It usually is a simple question, and most people would answer it rationally. But, you posted this at a time when the answers aren't so simple because of other issues being discussed on the board. To answer your question the way it should be answered would belie their arguments on another thread.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
The use of the word duty is interesting in this case. It makes me wonder if the quote is in response to something else. For example, there are countries where the status quo cultural attitude is that it IS a woman's duty to not get attacked. Like countries where there are honor killings of women who were raped and the woman's family believes it was the woman's fault, and she brought shame on the family. Even when she clearly did nothing to invite or provoke the attack. There are cultures where people think this way. I think this statement might be spoken as a challenge to such beliefs.
"It's not a woman's duty to make sure she isn't assaulted when she leaves the house. It's your duty not to assault her."
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No matter how educated, talented, rich or cool you believe you are,
But I can make it as hard as possible for someone to hurt me.
Think about it, do you guard you PIN numbers, use secure passwords, lock your doors, avoid certain places?
That's taking responsibility for your safety.
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I miss when men were men and women were glad of it.
Right? The book Wild At Heart changed my life.
And we have pretty much a perfect marriage.
I respect him as a man...he respects me as a woman.
It's a different kind of relationship, isn't it?
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Women especially should be careful.
What is wrong with saying that? Don't put yourself in harms way.
If I see a dark alley and wisely decide not to walk down it in the middle of the night and another woman does decide to, and she gets attacked, it could have been avoided. RIGHT?
If I say oh that is horrible, that poor woman... I never would have walked down that alley at night.... I get verbally attacked for having common sense.
OK I withdraw my question because I no longer know how to talk to folks here.
There is a unique set of mindsets here.
HAve a great weekend
It usually is a simple question, and most people would answer it rationally. But, you posted this at a time when the answers aren't so simple because of other issues being discussed on the board. To answer your question the way it should be answered would belie their arguments on another thread.
Seriously? I did answer the question.
aergia rarely posts, so by all means, let's make her feel uncomfortable that she asked a question.
OK I withdraw my question because I no longer know how to talk to folks here.
There is a unique set of mindsets here.
HAve a great weekend
It usually is a simple question, and most people would answer it rationally. But, you posted this at a time when the answers aren't so simple because of other issues being discussed on the board. To answer your question the way it should be answered would belie their arguments on another thread.
Seriously? I did answer the question.
aergia rarely posts, so by all means, let's make her feel uncomfortable that she asked a question.
flan
Was I talking to you? It's not always about YOU, flan.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
OK I withdraw my question because I no longer know how to talk to folks here.
There is a unique set of mindsets here.
HAve a great weekend
It usually is a simple question, and most people would answer it rationally. But, you posted this at a time when the answers aren't so simple because of other issues being discussed on the board. To answer your question the way it should be answered would belie their arguments on another thread.
Seriously? I did answer the question.
aergia rarely posts, so by all means, let's make her feel uncomfortable that she asked a question.
flan
Was I talking to you? It's not always about YOU, flan.
You answered the questions I specifically asked 04 yesterday...
OK I withdraw my question because I no longer know how to talk to folks here.
There is a unique set of mindsets here.
HAve a great weekend
It usually is a simple question, and most people would answer it rationally. But, you posted this at a time when the answers aren't so simple because of other issues being discussed on the board. To answer your question the way it should be answered would belie their arguments on another thread.
Seriously? I did answer the question.
aergia rarely posts, so by all means, let's make her feel uncomfortable that she asked a question.
flan
Was I talking to you? It's not always about YOU, flan.
You answered the questions I specifically asked 04 yesterday...
flan
So? I didn't answer it as if you had asked ME, I knew what ohfour's answer would be. That's hardly the same thing as assuming what I'm saying is totally about you.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Where did I "assume" that your comment was about me?
flan
REALLY????
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
aergia wrote:
I thought it was a simple question.
OK I withdraw my question because I no longer know how to talk to folks here.
There is a unique set of mindsets here.
HAve a great weekend
It usually is a simple question, and most people would answer it rationally. But, you posted this at a time when the answers aren't so simple because of other issues being discussed on the board. To answer your question the way it should be answered would belie their arguments on another thread.
Seriously? I did answer the question.
aergia rarely posts, so by all means, let's make her feel uncomfortable that she asked a question.
flan
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
Sorry, aergia, but according to Tig, women are responsible for their own safety.
Largely, in many ways, EVERYONE is responsible for their own safety.
No one can "force" you to wear your seat belt, or put your phone down so you don't text and drive, or lock your doors at night, or to not throw lit cigarettes in the garbage, or whatever.
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I'm not arguing, I'm just explaining why I'm right.
Well, I could agree with you--but then we'd both be wrong.