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It should just come down to don't ask don't tell. Nobody is going to frisk you on your way in or out of there...

This is just some sick way of allowing weirdos to remove the perimeter between them an their victims.


 But that's their goal.  Anything goes.  



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This really isn't about using the bathroom. It's about dissolving genders. I understand bumper stickers are coming out which read, "gender is dead." Really? Seems a group of people are attempting to dissolve the gender binary. An attempt to destroy the family unit. Why? I guess it's easier to control people that way. But it is happening, and it's real. And O knows about it, and is perpetuating it. And the group of these people are growing in size.



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This really isn't about using the bathroom. It's about dissolving genders. I understand bumper stickers are coming out which read, "gender is dead." Really? Seems a group of people are attempting to dissolve the gender binary. An attempt to destroy the family unit. Why? I guess it's easier to control people that way. But it is happening, and it's real. And O knows about it, and is perpetuating it. And the group of these people are growing in size.


 But the nuclear family has not been the norm for quite a while now, at least imo. And that's not the end of the world.

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Maybe not the end of the world, but society has taken a hit.

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They want to make mental illness normal. It's all about control. If they can convince these people that they are normal, then they have their vote. They did the same with the black people. Convinced them that they were owed a living and that they (the libs) would provide it.

People just keep falling into that trap.

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Maybe not the end of the world, but society has taken a hit.


 I agree with you in principle, but I don't have a magic wand to change things.

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Maybe not the end of the world, but society has taken a hit.


 I agree with you in principle, but I don't have a magic wand to change things.

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Yes you do.  Quit voting for liberals.  Easy as that.  no 



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Voting people into office that further the agenda to destroy the family unit, destroy gender binary, and normalize mental illnesses continues the demise of society.

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This really isn't about using the bathroom. It's about dissolving genders. I understand bumper stickers are coming out which read, "gender is dead." Really? Seems a group of people are attempting to dissolve the gender binary. An attempt to destroy the family unit. Why? I guess it's easier to control people that way. But it is happening, and it's real. And O knows about it, and is perpetuating it. And the group of these people are growing in size.


 But the nuclear family has not been the norm for quite a while now, at least imo. And that's not the end of the world.

flan


 It is still the "norm", but you are right that other "normals" have cropped up.  And with the change, crime and poverty have increased greatly.  



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This really isn't about using the bathroom. It's about dissolving genders. I understand bumper stickers are coming out which read, "gender is dead." Really? Seems a group of people are attempting to dissolve the gender binary. An attempt to destroy the family unit. Why? I guess it's easier to control people that way. But it is happening, and it's real. And O knows about it, and is perpetuating it. And the group of these people are growing in size.


 But the nuclear family has not been the norm for quite a while now, at least imo. And that's not the end of the world.

flan


 It is still the "norm", but you are right that other "normals" have cropped up.  And with the change, crime and poverty have increased greatly.  


 The new "normal" every generation has to deal with this, its nothing new really.



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This really isn't about using the bathroom. It's about dissolving genders. I understand bumper stickers are coming out which read, "gender is dead." Really? Seems a group of people are attempting to dissolve the gender binary. An attempt to destroy the family unit. Why? I guess it's easier to control people that way. But it is happening, and it's real. And O knows about it, and is perpetuating it. And the group of these people are growing in size.


 But the nuclear family has not been the norm for quite a while now, at least imo. And that's not the end of the world.

flan


 It is still the "norm", but you are right that other "normals" have cropped up.  And with the change, crime and poverty have increased greatly.  


 The new "normal" every generation has to deal with this, its nothing new really.


 It doesn't change the fact that as sexual freedoms have increased in the name of feminism and the nuclear family has broken down, that the crime rates and drug use have risen, more single mothers live in poverty, and the welfare rolls have swelled to beyond sustainability.  



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This really isn't about using the bathroom. It's about dissolving genders. I understand bumper stickers are coming out which read, "gender is dead." Really? Seems a group of people are attempting to dissolve the gender binary. An attempt to destroy the family unit. Why? I guess it's easier to control people that way. But it is happening, and it's real. And O knows about it, and is perpetuating it. And the group of these people are growing in size.


 But the nuclear family has not been the norm for quite a while now, at least imo. And that's not the end of the world.

flan


 It is still the "norm", but you are right that other "normals" have cropped up.  And with the change, crime and poverty have increased greatly.  


 The new "normal" every generation has to deal with this, its nothing new really.


 It doesn't change the fact that as sexual freedoms have increased in the name of feminism and the nuclear family has broken down, that the crime rates and drug use have risen, more single mothers live in poverty, and the welfare rolls have swelled to beyond sustainability.  


 To be fair, the nuclear family was just a dream. People stayed married because they had to, not because they were happy. Women stayed home and took care of the family because they had to, given the choice many wanted to work. The use of Valium was incredulous.... it may have seemed like the 50's , as an example, were  a happy time but if you scratch the veneer you see a lot of unhappiness and dysfunction, it was just hidden and not shared.

The pursuit of the mighty dollar and many freedoms are what was a game changer IMO. so in part, I actually agree with you.

 



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They want to make mental illness normal. It's all about control. If they can convince these people that they are normal, then they have their vote. They did the same with the black people. Convinced them that they were owed a living and that they (the libs) would provide it.

People just keep falling into that trap.


 As someone with two different diagnosis of mental illness I just wish that I and people like myself weren't treated as such freaks of nature for lack of a better term. Perhaps we are the normal ones? :) or maybe people could accept the fact that there is no such thing as "normal"and that everyone is just as different as everyone else.

Just my personal opinion, not trying to start a fight. I haven't really formed a cohesive thought on the bathroom issue yet,although I really wonder why it was ever made an issue in the first place, transgenders have no doubt been using whichever bathroom for years and years and nobody ever noticed or even thought about it until now.



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They want to make mental illness normal. It's all about control. If they can convince these people that they are normal, then they have their vote. They did the same with the black people. Convinced them that they were owed a living and that they (the libs) would provide it.

People just keep falling into that trap.


 As someone with two different diagnosis of mental illness I just wish that I and people like myself weren't treated as such freaks of nature for lack of a better term. Perhaps we are the normal ones? :) or maybe people could accept the fact that there is no such thing as "normal"and that everyone is just as different as everyone else.

Just my personal opinion, not trying to start a fight. I haven't really formed a cohesive thought on the bathroom issue yet,although I really wonder why it was ever made an issue in the first place, transgenders have no doubt been using whichever bathroom for years and years and nobody ever noticed or even thought about it until now.


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It was made an issue to distract from the important issues, like ISIS, the economy, border problems, muslim extremists, etc.

Disorders of any kind are just that. A disorder. Not normal, aka, healthy.

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MayBaby wrote:
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They want to make mental illness normal. It's all about control. If they can convince these people that they are normal, then they have their vote. They did the same with the black people. Convinced them that they were owed a living and that they (the libs) would provide it.

People just keep falling into that trap.


 As someone with two different diagnosis of mental illness I just wish that I and people like myself weren't treated as such freaks of nature for lack of a better term. Perhaps we are the normal ones? :) or maybe people could accept the fact that there is no such thing as "normal"and that everyone is just as different as everyone else.

Just my personal opinion, not trying to start a fight. I haven't really formed a cohesive thought on the bathroom issue yet,although I really wonder why it was ever made an issue in the first place, transgenders have no doubt been using whichever bathroom for years and years and nobody ever noticed or even thought about it until now.


 

Amen to that.  

 

But let me ask you - you don't have to answer - don't you have your illnesses treated?  If you don't, doesn't that create problems for you?  

 

This is about not only NOT treating them, but pretending that it is completely normal.  Are suicidal depressed people "normal"?  Should we treat them, or hand them a gun to shoot themselves because that's "normal"?



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Wait, why did my font get all small? That's weird I didn't mean to do that.

I'm treated, but that just means I'm catering to everyone else.

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Treating a mental disorder is catering to everyone else? Why? You'd rather not function than conform? I'm not trying to be snarky, I'm just trying to understand why treatment is catering.

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You bring up good points lawyerlady and I agree no one should hand a depressed person a gun. I don't have an answer to what a good all-around solution would be, I doubt there is one.

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Wait, why did my font get all small? That's weird I didn't mean to do that.

I'm treated, but that just means I'm catering to everyone else.


 So, you would be perfectly fine without treatment?  No depressive episodes or thoughts of suicide?  No dangerous manic episodes?  

I'm just asking - I have no idea what illnesses you have.  



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My medications help me to be "normal" yes

I realize I sound contradictory, it's hard to explain my feelings on the subject

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You bring up good points lawyerlady and I agree no one should hand a depressed person a gun. I don't have an answer to what a good all-around solution would be, I doubt there is one.


I understand the stigma attached to mental illness and why they don't want to be labeled that.  But when the treatment (sex change operation) actually increases the rate of suicide - something is WRONG.  

The fact is that you are right, there is not a "solution".  Not until there is a way to fix it.  There is only coping.  But let's face it - if this is normalized within society, there will be no research made on how to "fix" it, and that isn't fair to the ones who would like to be cured, if possible. 

It's like this - you suffer from mental illness.  If there was a cure, wouldn't you jump on it?  If you normalize it, they will no longer work to find a cure. 

 

But I don't think that coping with something means that everyone else has to do whatever they want, ESPECIALLY when there is a reasonable compromise in terms of a separate, unisex bathroom option. 



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This really isn't about using the bathroom. It's about dissolving genders. I understand bumper stickers are coming out which read, "gender is dead." Really? Seems a group of people are attempting to dissolve the gender binary. An attempt to destroy the family unit. Why? I guess it's easier to control people that way. But it is happening, and it's real. And O knows about it, and is perpetuating it. And the group of these people are growing in size.


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I’ve stayed silent long enough.

Let me break this down for you. I have a daughter. She’s 6. She has the loudest laugh and the spazziest dance moves you’ve ever seen. I’m not scared by a bathroom.

In just a few years she may develop an eating disorder. She may be pressured to suck dick, or spread her legs, or sext, or chug booze.. All before she is the age of 13.

Does this shock you?!? Good. That’s the point. Statistically- all are true.. How does this happen??? Every second- every day- she is surrounded by images, songs, commercial, and more that mold her.

I have a 6 year old.. She swims in the bathtub with goggles. Creates waves that create puddles all over my floor. I laugh at her joy. She asks to fall asleep in our bed. She still snuggles me on the couch, and when she falls asleep I carry her to be bed covered in fairy lights. She’s scared of the bogeyman.

He’s real. He’ll rape her while she’s walking to her car. It will be her fault- she shouldn’t have been walking by herself of course. He’ll grab her ass while she’s serving him a drink. She’ll smile and ignore because she needs the tip. He’ll pay her less than her male counterparts. He’ll make condescending remarks about how she will make “cute babies”- before he hands her his hotel room keycard.

Again, all statistically true. Ask the female in your life if she’s ever been scared to walk to her car. Had to hold her purse a bit closer, keys in hand, lock the door immediately. Ask her how many times she looked over her shoulder. Ask your sister, or mother, or wife how many promotions she was passed over for, how many men have leered or cat called her, how many small concessions she’s made just to be seen as equal.

My daughter is 6. She loves ponies, and swimming, and daddy. She runs like the wind and rides her pink bike for hours. Begs me for one more cannonball. One more circling of the block.

She lives in a world that is built for men. Rewards men. Glorifies men. A patriarchal world where men can make statements like “I need to protect my daughter from “freaks” in bathrooms” but that also doesn’t point out the hypocrisy of not protecting them from assault, gender pay gaps, objectification, and abuse.

I hate to break it to you. Your daughter is less likely to be preyed on in a bathroom by a “freak” and more likely to be viciously raped before the age of 35.

By someone who looks probably a lot like you.. Completely normal.

Scare you? It should. It scares me. My daughters least worry should be the Target bathroom.

Because she needs to be prepared for the world we’ve made for her. And it’s a terrifying one.

But by all means- go protest a Target. Because that’s the real problem right?!?

My daughter is 6. We have so much to do. I have to raise a warrior.. To save her. From you.

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And, giving MORE access and the air of legitimacy to more predators makes sense HOW?

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And, giving MORE access and the air of legitimacy to more predators makes sense HOW?


 You choose to ignore the real threat and instead get your shorts in a bunch over something as simple as people wanting to use the washroom.



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Yes, you aren't worried, because you can go into that bathroom. With. Her. Can her father? Only if he pretends to be a trans. Maybe that's the secret. Carry a wig and dress in your briefcase.

It's not about bathrooms. It's about killing genders.

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And, giving MORE access and the air of legitimacy to more predators makes sense HOW?


 You choose to ignore the real threat and instead get your shorts in a bunch over something as simple as people wanting to use the washroom.


 You just made a very clear case that predators are indeed a threat.  So, i asked you if giving them MORE access under the umbrella of legitimacy makes sense?



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Am i afraid of Bruce Jenner being in the restroom? No, i am not. You seem to miss the point. It isn't even necessarily the transgendered. It is giving LEGITIMATE access to MEN with nefarious ideas. Hello.

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Am i afraid of Bruce Jenner being in the restroom? No, i am not. You seem to miss the point. It isn't even necessarily the transgendered. It is giving LEGITIMATE access to MEN with nefarious ideas. Hello.


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Am i afraid of Bruce Jenner being in the restroom? No, i am not. You seem to miss the point. It isn't even necessarily the transgendered. It is giving LEGITIMATE access to MEN with nefarious ideas. Hello.


 This.


You can say it til you're blue in the face.  They are either too stupid to understand, or don't believe you.  Either way, they are as dangerous to our kids as the actual pedophiles... 



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Well, all this "oh they have always been going in there" nonsense. No, i didn't see many cross dressers out in public growing up. And, i know a man in drag from a woman. It's not that difficult. We had a transgendered ref at DDs basketball game. A man with long hair and short shorts and earrings but definitely a dude. A dude in transition perhaps. Yes, there are a small minority of the uber rich who can have hormone treatments and lots of pricey surgery that you can't tell but that isn't the norm for the vast majority.

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I had a neighbor who wore women's underwear and makeup and a woman's hairdo. He always looked so sad. He had a wife, too. I don't know which restroom he used.

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Am i afraid of Bruce Jenner being in the restroom? No, i am not. You seem to miss the point. It isn't even necessarily the transgendered. It is giving LEGITIMATE access to MEN with nefarious ideas. Hello.


 This.


 Are you of the belief that these MEN will now dress as women and go into public washrooms to attack your child?

 



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I’ve stayed silent long enough.

Let me break this down for you. I have a daughter. She’s 6. She has the loudest laugh and the spazziest dance moves you’ve ever seen. I’m not scared by a bathroom.

In just a few years she may develop an eating disorder. She may be pressured to suck dick, or spread her legs, or sext, or chug booze.. All before she is the age of 13.

Does this shock you?!? Good. That’s the point. Statistically- all are true.. How does this happen??? Every second- every day- she is surrounded by images, songs, commercial, and more that mold her.

I have a 6 year old.. She swims in the bathtub with goggles. Creates waves that create puddles all over my floor. I laugh at her joy. She asks to fall asleep in our bed. She still snuggles me on the couch, and when she falls asleep I carry her to be bed covered in fairy lights. She’s scared of the bogeyman.

He’s real. He’ll rape her while she’s walking to her car. It will be her fault- she shouldn’t have been walking by herself of course. He’ll grab her ass while she’s serving him a drink. She’ll smile and ignore because she needs the tip. He’ll pay her less than her male counterparts. He’ll make condescending remarks about how she will make “cute babies”- before he hands her his hotel room keycard.

Again, all statistically true. Ask the female in your life if she’s ever been scared to walk to her car. Had to hold her purse a bit closer, keys in hand, lock the door immediately. Ask her how many times she looked over her shoulder. Ask your sister, or mother, or wife how many promotions she was passed over for, how many men have leered or cat called her, how many small concessions she’s made just to be seen as equal.

My daughter is 6. She loves ponies, and swimming, and daddy. She runs like the wind and rides her pink bike for hours. Begs me for one more cannonball. One more circling of the block.

She lives in a world that is built for men. Rewards men. Glorifies men. A patriarchal world where men can make statements like “I need to protect my daughter from “freaks” in bathrooms” but that also doesn’t point out the hypocrisy of not protecting them from assault, gender pay gaps, objectification, and abuse.

I hate to break it to you. Your daughter is less likely to be preyed on in a bathroom by a “freak” and more likely to be viciously raped before the age of 35.

By someone who looks probably a lot like you.. Completely normal.

Scare you? It should. It scares me. My daughters least worry should be the Target bathroom.

Because she needs to be prepared for the world we’ve made for her. And it’s a terrifying one.

But by all means- go protest a Target. Because that’s the real problem right?!?

My daughter is 6. We have so much to do. I have to raise a warrior.. To save her. From you.

*mic drop

americannewsx.com/human-interest/mom-shreds-every-bathroom-banner-startling-rant-everyone-must-read/


 How on earth is it either/or?

 

Tell that 10 year old girl filmed in a Target dressing room 2 weeks ago that it's "not likely to happen". 

Tell that 8 year old girl that was nearly strangled to death by a strange man in a restaurant bathroom last week that "it's not likely to happen". 

 

It's HAPPENS.  And they are trying to make it so there is no questioning of men that walk into the ladies room, for whatever reason.  And that's crap. 



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Am i afraid of Bruce Jenner being in the restroom? No, i am not. You seem to miss the point. It isn't even necessarily the transgendered. It is giving LEGITIMATE access to MEN with nefarious ideas. Hello.


 This.


 Are you of the belief that these MEN will now dress as women and go into public washrooms to attack your child?

 


They don't HAVE to dress as women.  They can use the women's restrooms without obstruction.  No, I'm not worried about the men dressing as women.  I'm worried about the ones that aren't... 



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I’ve stayed silent long enough.

Let me break this down for you. I have a daughter. She’s 6. She has the loudest laugh and the spazziest dance moves you’ve ever seen. I’m not scared by a bathroom.

In just a few years she may develop an eating disorder. She may be pressured to suck dick, or spread her legs, or sext, or chug booze.. All before she is the age of 13.

Does this shock you?!? Good. That’s the point. Statistically- all are true.. How does this happen??? Every second- every day- she is surrounded by images, songs, commercial, and more that mold her.

I have a 6 year old.. She swims in the bathtub with goggles. Creates waves that create puddles all over my floor. I laugh at her joy. She asks to fall asleep in our bed. She still snuggles me on the couch, and when she falls asleep I carry her to be bed covered in fairy lights. She’s scared of the bogeyman.

He’s real. He’ll rape her while she’s walking to her car. It will be her fault- she shouldn’t have been walking by herself of course. He’ll grab her ass while she’s serving him a drink. She’ll smile and ignore because she needs the tip. He’ll pay her less than her male counterparts. He’ll make condescending remarks about how she will make “cute babies”- before he hands her his hotel room keycard.

Again, all statistically true. Ask the female in your life if she’s ever been scared to walk to her car. Had to hold her purse a bit closer, keys in hand, lock the door immediately. Ask her how many times she looked over her shoulder. Ask your sister, or mother, or wife how many promotions she was passed over for, how many men have leered or cat called her, how many small concessions she’s made just to be seen as equal.

My daughter is 6. She loves ponies, and swimming, and daddy. She runs like the wind and rides her pink bike for hours. Begs me for one more cannonball. One more circling of the block.

She lives in a world that is built for men. Rewards men. Glorifies men. A patriarchal world where men can make statements like “I need to protect my daughter from “freaks” in bathrooms” but that also doesn’t point out the hypocrisy of not protecting them from assault, gender pay gaps, objectification, and abuse.

I hate to break it to you. Your daughter is less likely to be preyed on in a bathroom by a “freak” and more likely to be viciously raped before the age of 35.

By someone who looks probably a lot like you.. Completely normal.

Scare you? It should. It scares me. My daughters least worry should be the Target bathroom.

Because she needs to be prepared for the world we’ve made for her. And it’s a terrifying one.

But by all means- go protest a Target. Because that’s the real problem right?!?

My daughter is 6. We have so much to do. I have to raise a warrior.. To save her. From you.

*mic drop

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 How on earth is it either/or?

 

Tell that 10 year old girl filmed in a Target dressing room 2 weeks ago that it's "not likely to happen". 

Tell that 8 year old girl that was nearly strangled to death by a strange man in a restaurant bathroom last week that "it's not likely to happen". 

 

It's HAPPENS.  And they are trying to make it so there is no questioning of men that walk into the ladies room, for whatever reason.  And that's crap. 


 WHAT'S TRUE: A Pennsylvania man was arrested for entering a women's restroom and allegedly taking photographs of a young girl.

WHAT'S FALSE: The case wasn't in any way related to transgender bathroom controversies; no provision of any bill or policy allows men to enter women's restrooms; photographing anyone in bathrooms or restrooms without their knowledge or consent is illegal.



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That is not either of the cases I am referring to.




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I’ve stayed silent long enough.

Let me break this down for you. I have a daughter. She’s 6. She has the loudest laugh and the spazziest dance moves you’ve ever seen. I’m not scared by a bathroom.

In just a few years she may develop an eating disorder. She may be pressured to suck dick, or spread her legs, or sext, or chug booze.. All before she is the age of 13.

Does this shock you?!? Good. That’s the point. Statistically- all are true.. How does this happen??? Every second- every day- she is surrounded by images, songs, commercial, and more that mold her.

I have a 6 year old.. She swims in the bathtub with goggles. Creates waves that create puddles all over my floor. I laugh at her joy. She asks to fall asleep in our bed. She still snuggles me on the couch, and when she falls asleep I carry her to be bed covered in fairy lights. She’s scared of the bogeyman.

He’s real. He’ll rape her while she’s walking to her car. It will be her fault- she shouldn’t have been walking by herself of course. He’ll grab her ass while she’s serving him a drink. She’ll smile and ignore because she needs the tip. He’ll pay her less than her male counterparts. He’ll make condescending remarks about how she will make “cute babies”- before he hands her his hotel room keycard.

Again, all statistically true. Ask the female in your life if she’s ever been scared to walk to her car. Had to hold her purse a bit closer, keys in hand, lock the door immediately. Ask her how many times she looked over her shoulder. Ask your sister, or mother, or wife how many promotions she was passed over for, how many men have leered or cat called her, how many small concessions she’s made just to be seen as equal.

My daughter is 6. She loves ponies, and swimming, and daddy. She runs like the wind and rides her pink bike for hours. Begs me for one more cannonball. One more circling of the block.

She lives in a world that is built for men. Rewards men. Glorifies men. A patriarchal world where men can make statements like “I need to protect my daughter from “freaks” in bathrooms” but that also doesn’t point out the hypocrisy of not protecting them from assault, gender pay gaps, objectification, and abuse.

I hate to break it to you. Your daughter is less likely to be preyed on in a bathroom by a “freak” and more likely to be viciously raped before the age of 35.

By someone who looks probably a lot like you.. Completely normal.

Scare you? It should. It scares me. My daughters least worry should be the Target bathroom.

Because she needs to be prepared for the world we’ve made for her. And it’s a terrifying one.

But by all means- go protest a Target. Because that’s the real problem right?!?

My daughter is 6. We have so much to do. I have to raise a warrior.. To save her. From you.

*mic drop

americannewsx.com/human-interest/mom-shreds-every-bathroom-banner-startling-rant-everyone-must-read/


 How on earth is it either/or?

 

Tell that 10 year old girl filmed in a Target dressing room 2 weeks ago that it's "not likely to happen". 

Tell that 8 year old girl that was nearly strangled to death by a strange man in a restaurant bathroom last week that "it's not likely to happen". 

 

It's HAPPENS.  And they are trying to make it so there is no questioning of men that walk into the ladies room, for whatever reason.  And that's crap. 


 This has nothing to do with gender neutrality at all. This was simply a predator. Period. This is a small restaurant and the washrooms were not in view, mom "LOST TRACK" of her daughter and there it was. A perfect opportunity for a predator. Nothing to do with transgender laws at all.



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apple - you keep saying it has nothing to do with transgenders. NOBODY said it was a transgender that did it. But PREDATORS are using the lax new laws to their advantage.

If you can't understand that - I can't help you.

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Predator behavior you think it's fine to make easier because the poor transgenders will STILL be able to use the restroom they choose as long as they aren't going in as MEN. I don't understand why you ignore legitimate concerns and pretend that nothing bad will happen because of this..

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Predator behavior you think it's fine to make easier because the poor transgenders will STILL be able to use the restroom they choose as long as they aren't going in as MEN. I don't understand why you ignore legitimate concerns and pretend that nothing bad will happen because of this..


Because they champion perversion.  Hey, they were born that way, right? 



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apple - you keep saying it has nothing to do with transgenders. NOBODY said it was a transgender that did it. But PREDATORS are using the lax new laws to their advantage.

If you can't understand that - I can't help you.


 I understand where your fear is coming from. I just don't buy into it.

You want a transgender person who appears to be a man, to use the ladies room? You want gender checks at the door? What do you want?



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I am not speaking for all conservatives or Christians, but for me personally I have a transgender boss and I dont care if he/she uses the woman's bathroom because he/she is not interested in women. He/she is a she in his eyes and he/she is only there to take care of business and be done with it. Live and let live works in this case.

But making it a LAW that I HAVE to allow him/her in the bathroom without question now forces me to shut my mouth if greasy Joe Schmoe walks in.

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I am not speaking for all conservatives or Christians, but for me personally I have a transgender boss and I dont care if he/she uses the woman's bathroom because he/she is not interested in women. He/she is a she in his eyes and he/she is only there to take care of business and be done with it. Live and let live works in this case.

But making it a LAW that I HAVE to allow him/her in the bathroom without question now forces me to shut my mouth if greasy Joe Schmoe walks in.


 And you really believe that Joe Schmoe is going to start visiting the womens room? 

I think after all this hysteria dies down it will go back to the way it was, the way you admit to being fine with. 

People will use the washroom they identify with and appear to be, for transgenders that is.



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Joe Schmoe pedophile predator? Yes. Absolutely they will start visiting women's restroom. And here is another question... now that it is being put into law that we are not allowed to kick men out of the restroom labeled for women, what exactly is to stop Joe Schmoe from using the women's locker room? The place where there is open showers and dressing areas? If we are not allowed to throw him out of the women's bathroom, then we are not going to be allowed to throw him out of the women's locker room either. Are you ok with him undressing and showering with little girls and their mothers in the vicinity? And you cant say this is far fetched because there is zero difference between the two places. If men are allowed in the women's bathroom, they must be allowed in the women's locker room as well.

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How about this... you apologize and admit you are wrong when a case is cited where a man used the woman's bathroom to do predatory and nefarious things against a female, and I will apologize and admit I was wrong when such a case does NOT happen.

Fair?

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How about this... you apologize and admit you are wrong when a case is cited where a man used the woman's bathroom to do predatory and nefarious things against a female, and I will apologize and admit I was wrong when such a case does NOT happen.

Fair?


  They already  have. One man went into  a women's  bathroom  and stripped  naked  in front of everyone  and a man hid in a stall and choked  a little  8 yr old  girl  till she passed  out, and this happened  while her mom was in the next stall.



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I rest my case.

This isn't about transgenders. This is about bad men using a bad policy to do bad things to females.

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