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How about this... you apologize and admit you are wrong when a case is cited where a man used the woman's bathroom to do predatory and nefarious things against a female, and I will apologize and admit I was wrong when such a case does NOT happen.

Fair?


  They already  have. One man went into  a women's  bathroom  and stripped  naked  in front of everyone  and a man hid in a stall and choked  a little  8 yr old  girl  till she passed  out, and this happened  while her mom was in the next stall.


 I believe that story has been debunked. Check it out for yourself. 



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Yeah...never used one...never will.

And the ones here are gender specific... 



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When ordering a portable restroom for your event or job site, you’ll want to consider the gender of those who will be using your facilities. For example, women may desire adeluxe flushable restroom which is similar to that of a home restroom; while men may be more comfortable with a basic restroom because it has a urinal. To effectively identify one restroom from another you’re going to require a gender-specific indicator.

Service Sanitation can now install gender specific indicators to your portable toilets free of charge. These indicators can quickly and easily be added to any of our portable toilets either during your delivery or on any routed service day. Please notify a member of our customer service team when placing your order and we’ll have one of our service technicians make it happen.


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Ha! We call them refrigerator toilets!

I hate using those but in a bind, well, you do what you have to.



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Ha! We call them refrigerator toilets!

I hate using those but in a bind, well, you do what you have to.


 I'd rather go in the bushes behind them. lol!



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As much time as I spent camping growing up, I never got the hang of squatting in the brushes.

I could squat there till my legs gave out but my body just would not let me go.

But I got lots of practice with those fridge toilets.

Between concerts, competitions, and events, I have had plenty of experience with them.

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apple wrote:
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How about this... you apologize and admit you are wrong when a case is cited where a man used the woman's bathroom to do predatory and nefarious things against a female, and I will apologize and admit I was wrong when such a case does NOT happen.

Fair?


  They already  have. One man went into  a women's  bathroom  and stripped  naked  in front of everyone  and a man hid in a stall and choked  a little  8 yr old  girl  till she passed  out, and this happened  while her mom was in the next stall.


 I believe that story has been debunked. Check it out for yourself. 


 You would be wrong.  Unless you are saying the police and ABC are lying?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/ld-girl-choked-unconscious-222948171.html

 

 



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Ha! We call them refrigerator toilets!

I hate using those but in a bind, well, you do what you have to.


 Jojo had to use one at the Ren Faire.  She gagged when she opened the door.



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Some are better than others.



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Check out snopes.  It's false.

Furthermore, many of these stories are claiming it happened recently, but they happened in 2011, way before this bath room hysteria.



-- Edited by weltschmerz on Wednesday 18th of May 2016 04:57:57 AM

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Yeah...never used one...never will.

And the ones here are gender specific... 


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As much time as I spent camping growing up, I never got the hang of squatting in the brushes.

I could squat there till my legs gave out but my body just would not let me go.

But I got lots of practice with those fridge toilets.

Between concerts, competitions, and events, I have had plenty of experience with them.


 And we NEEDED to know this because...?

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I see you're starting early today flannie.

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Aw, yes, snopes. The liberal bible.

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Check out snopes.  It's false.

Furthermore, many of these stories are claiming it happened recently, but they happened in 2011, way before this bath room hysteria.



-- Edited by weltschmerz on Wednesday 18th of May 2016 04:57:57 AM


 See, the only "accurate" websites are the ones that Welts quotes.  If you quote a website then of course it's biased.  LMAO!!!!!!!!!!



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weltschmerz wrote:

Check out snopes.  It's false.

Furthermore, many of these stories are claiming it happened recently, but they happened in 2011, way before this bath room hysteria.



-- Edited by weltschmerz on Wednesday 18th of May 2016 04:57:57 AM


 Snopes does not say the event did not happen.  They just changed the question so they could claim it was false.  It happened, and the man is in custody.

 

Snopes says he didn't claim transgender rights.  He doesn't have to. 

 

They have lost all credibility because of their left leaning slant on everything.



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The last time I checked something snopes I was left scratching my head because no where was there even a response. Just a bunch of rhetoric.

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The last time I checked something snopes I was left scratching my head because no where was there even a response. Just a bunch of rhetoric.

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 They don't want to admit anything is true is if it doesn't fit their liberal agenda so they will twist the question or not ask the real one or not give a complete answer. 



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flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

As much time as I spent camping growing up, I never got the hang of squatting in the brushes.

I could squat there till my legs gave out but my body just would not let me go.

But I got lots of practice with those fridge toilets.

Between concerts, competitions, and events, I have had plenty of experience with them.


 And we NEEDED to know this because...?

flan


 Honey, why don't you go play and let the grown ups talk. K? Be a good girl.



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Snopes, the National Enquirer of the internet.




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I see you're starting early today flannie.


 Isn't she though.  Constant snark at other posters.  It's getting so old. 



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The last time I checked something snopes I was left scratching my head because no where was there even a response. Just a bunch of rhetoric.

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 They don't want to admit anything is true is if it doesn't fit their liberal agenda so they will twist the question or not ask the real one or not give a complete answer. 


 Yes!  Whew.  I thought it was just  me seeing this.



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Yeah...never used one...never will.

And the ones here are gender specific... 


 Aren't you a special snowflake?

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 Ah...your jealousy is showing early today. Rough night?



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I remember one outing we were at and #1 said he had to go to the bathroom. We walked up to those Don's John's, opened the door, and #1 said, "never mind. I don't have to go anymore."

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They can be pretty scary though when you're at a Renfaire drinking ale well....sometimes you have to bite the bullet!

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Another story...

dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/05/17/shopper-upset-man-allowed-to-use-womens-dressing-room-in-ross/

MESQUITE (CBSDFW.COM) – A Forney woman says a Ross department store in Mesquite let a man into the women’s dressing room Monday.

“I was in the dressing room, when we heard a man’s voice,” said Lisa Stickles, who says she quickly told a manager.

“She went inside the dressing room, came right back out and called me to the side and told me… he was representing himself as a woman today,” Stickles said.

A customer service representative with Ross would not comment on the alleged incident but said they do not discriminate against the transgender community; adding, customers may use changing rooms that apply to their gender identity.

“What about me? Or my feelings?” said Sickles. “(The manager) told me that if I felt uncomfortable in the dressing room with him there… I’d have to wait until he’s finished.”

Sickles said she waited, and was shocked when she watched the man walk out.

“He was in no way dressed as a woman,” Sickles said. “He had on jeans, a t-shirt, 5 o’clock shadow, very deep voice. He was a man.”

Other large retailers across North Texas have varying policies on transgender customers who want to use the restrooms or changing rooms.

Target, TJ Maxx and Marshalls allow customers to decide based on gender identity, according to customer service.

Representatives from Kohl’s say their store require customers to use facilities aligned with their biological gender.

Walmart had no specific policy, according to customer service.

None of the companies would discuss how they train their employees to handle customers who claim to be transgender.

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Now I dont watch fox but....

www.fox4news.com/news/136937491-story

Police are searching for a ‘peeping tom’ who used his cell phone to record video of an underage girl inside a Frisco Target dressing room.

Investigators say the suspect put his cell phone over the wall of a female changing room and shot video of the girl.

 

The incident happened at the Target store on Preston Road Tuesday night around 7 p.m. on Tuesday.

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'Peeping Tom' records underage girl changing at Frisco Target

The boy took off after the girl noticed the camera while changing clothes, according to police. She told her parent who told an employee. But by that time, the suspect was gone.

“With the phones where you can do anything you want, it's kinda scary,” said parent Melonie Arbet.

Police were able to capture the suspect on store surveillance and want the public's help identifying him.

Melissa Tollinger says parents who give their kids phones also need to teach the right way to use them.

"They don't realize the ramifications of sending one text,” said Tollinger. “Once it's out there, it's out there. Taking a picture and doing a snapchat or whatever. I think they're too young to realize the implications of it"

“You never know who's watching,” said parent Katie Lizotte. “And once on the net, it stays there forever."



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Another story...

dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/05/17/shopper-upset-man-allowed-to-use-womens-dressing-room-in-ross/

MESQUITE (CBSDFW.COM) – A Forney woman says a Ross department store in Mesquite let a man into the women’s dressing room Monday.

“I was in the dressing room, when we heard a man’s voice,” said Lisa Stickles, who says she quickly told a manager.

“She went inside the dressing room, came right back out and called me to the side and told me… he was representing himself as a woman today,” Stickles said.

A customer service representative with Ross would not comment on the alleged incident but said they do not discriminate against the transgender community; adding, customers may use changing rooms that apply to their gender identity.

“What about me? Or my feelings?” said Sickles. “(The manager) told me that if I felt uncomfortable in the dressing room with him there… I’d have to wait until he’s finished.”

Sickles said she waited, and was shocked when she watched the man walk out.

“He was in no way dressed as a woman,” Sickles said. “He had on jeans, a t-shirt, 5 o’clock shadow, very deep voice. He was a man.”

Other large retailers across North Texas have varying policies on transgender customers who want to use the restrooms or changing rooms.

Target, TJ Maxx and Marshalls allow customers to decide based on gender identity, according to customer service.

Representatives from Kohl’s say their store require customers to use facilities aligned with their biological gender.

Walmart had no specific policy, according to customer service.

None of the companies would discuss how they train their employees to handle customers who claim to be transgender.


So what happened? Nothing, apparently.

Last weekend, I went to a Thai restaurant. The ladies room was busy. I went into the mens'.

Stop the presses!! Call the papers!



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And then there is this story...


www.kmov.com/story/29182491/peeping-tom-caught-filming-women-in-brentwood-target-dressing-rooms


Police: Peeping tom caught filming women in Brentwood Target dressing rooms
Posted: May 28, 2015 2:14 PM MDT
Updated: Apr 27, 2016 4:35 PM MDT
By Ashley Lahue

Matthew Foerstel, 26, faces felony charges for invasion of privacy and unlawful possession of a firearm.
Matthew Foerstel, 26, faces felony charges for invasion of privacy and unlawful possession of a firearm.
BRENTWOOD, Mo. (KMOV.com) -
An O'Fallon, Missouri man was arrested on April 23, 2015 after allegedly secretly filming women in a Target dressing room.

Matthew Foerstel, 26, faces felony charges for invasion of privacy in the second degree and unlawful possession of a firearm.

Foerstel has a plea hearing on Monday, May 2, 2016.

The Brentwood Police Department arrested Foerstel on April 23 after he allegedly held a camera phone under a dressing room door while a female shopper tried on swim suits at the Target store in Brentwood.

An officer went to Ranken Technical College to place Foerstel under arrest and reportedly found him in possession of a loaded handgun.

In 2013, Foerstel was convicted of invasion of privacy in St. Charles County for "knowingly and intentionally" filming an 11-year-old girl while she was partially nude inside a department store dressing room.

Foerstel served a one year sentence for the offense in the St. Charles County Jail.

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Another story...

dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/05/17/shopper-upset-man-allowed-to-use-womens-dressing-room-in-ross/

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So what happened? Nothing, apparently.

Last weekend, I went to a Thai restaurant. The ladies room was busy. I went into the mens'.

Stop the presses!! Call the papers!


 The case being made is that now ALL men are being allowed into ALL women's dressing rooms, bathrooms and next up.. lockers. You may be ok with this, but I for one am NOT ok with this.



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And then there is this story...


www.kmov.com/story/29182491/peeping-tom-caught-filming-women-in-brentwood-target-dressing-rooms


Police: Peeping tom caught filming women in Brentwood Target dressing rooms
Posted: May 28, 2015 2:14 PM MDT
Updated: Apr 27, 2016 4:35 PM MDT
By Ashley Lahue

Matthew Foerstel, 26, faces felony charges for invasion of privacy and unlawful possession of a firearm.
Matthew Foerstel, 26, faces felony charges for invasion of privacy and unlawful possession of a firearm.
BRENTWOOD, Mo. (KMOV.com) -
An O'Fallon, Missouri man was arrested on April 23, 2015 after allegedly secretly filming women in a Target dressing room.

Matthew Foerstel, 26, faces felony charges for invasion of privacy in the second degree and unlawful possession of a firearm.

Foerstel has a plea hearing on Monday, May 2, 2016.

The Brentwood Police Department arrested Foerstel on April 23 after he allegedly held a camera phone under a dressing room door while a female shopper tried on swim suits at the Target store in Brentwood.

An officer went to Ranken Technical College to place Foerstel under arrest and reportedly found him in possession of a loaded handgun.

In 2013, Foerstel was convicted of invasion of privacy in St. Charles County for "knowingly and intentionally" filming an 11-year-old girl while she was partially nude inside a department store dressing room.

Foerstel served a one year sentence for the offense in the St. Charles County Jail.


So, before all this brouhaha over trans bathrooms.

Pervs are gonna perv. 



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Another story...

dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/05/17/shopper-upset-man-allowed-to-use-womens-dressing-room-in-ross/

MESQUITE (CBSDFW.COM) – A Forney woman says a Ross department store in Mesquite let a man into the women’s dressing room Monday.

“I was in the dressing room, when we heard a man’s voice,” said Lisa Stickles, who says she quickly told a manager.

“She went inside the dressing room, came right back out and called me to the side and told me… he was representing himself as a woman today,” Stickles said.

A customer service representative with Ross would not comment on the alleged incident but said they do not discriminate against the transgender community; adding, customers may use changing rooms that apply to their gender identity.

“What about me? Or my feelings?” said Sickles. “(The manager) told me that if I felt uncomfortable in the dressing room with him there… I’d have to wait until he’s finished.”

Sickles said she waited, and was shocked when she watched the man walk out.

“He was in no way dressed as a woman,” Sickles said. “He had on jeans, a t-shirt, 5 o’clock shadow, very deep voice. He was a man.”

Other large retailers across North Texas have varying policies on transgender customers who want to use the restrooms or changing rooms.

Target, TJ Maxx and Marshalls allow customers to decide based on gender identity, according to customer service.

Representatives from Kohl’s say their store require customers to use facilities aligned with their biological gender.

Walmart had no specific policy, according to customer service.

None of the companies would discuss how they train their employees to handle customers who claim to be transgender.


So what happened? Nothing, apparently.

Last weekend, I went to a Thai restaurant. The ladies room was busy. I went into the mens'.

Stop the presses!! Call the papers!


 What happened?  A woman who was in the store was told her being uncomfortable with a man in there did not matter, and she would have to wait even though she was there first.  Her privacy rights were infringed and the store didn't care.  

Transgenders are NOT the only ones with rights in the world.  



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And then there is this story...


www.kmov.com/story/29182491/peeping-tom-caught-filming-women-in-brentwood-target-dressing-rooms


Police: Peeping tom caught filming women in Brentwood Target dressing rooms
Posted: May 28, 2015 2:14 PM MDT
Updated: Apr 27, 2016 4:35 PM MDT
By Ashley Lahue

Matthew Foerstel, 26, faces felony charges for invasion of privacy and unlawful possession of a firearm.
Matthew Foerstel, 26, faces felony charges for invasion of privacy and unlawful possession of a firearm.
BRENTWOOD, Mo. (KMOV.com) -
An O'Fallon, Missouri man was arrested on April 23, 2015 after allegedly secretly filming women in a Target dressing room.

Matthew Foerstel, 26, faces felony charges for invasion of privacy in the second degree and unlawful possession of a firearm.

Foerstel has a plea hearing on Monday, May 2, 2016.

The Brentwood Police Department arrested Foerstel on April 23 after he allegedly held a camera phone under a dressing room door while a female shopper tried on swim suits at the Target store in Brentwood.

An officer went to Ranken Technical College to place Foerstel under arrest and reportedly found him in possession of a loaded handgun.

In 2013, Foerstel was convicted of invasion of privacy in St. Charles County for "knowingly and intentionally" filming an 11-year-old girl while she was partially nude inside a department store dressing room.

Foerstel served a one year sentence for the offense in the St. Charles County Jail.


So, before all this brouhaha over trans bathrooms.

Pervs are gonna perv. 


 And now they have made it easier for them.



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I am not going to get you to admit that we are right and you were wrong, am I?


 On a message board? LOL

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I am not going to get you to admit that we are right and you were wrong, am I?


 No.  Their natural progression is from "It won't happen - you are paranoid." to "So what if it happens, big deal."



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To quote Hillary, "It doesn't matterrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!"

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Check out snopes.  It's false.

Furthermore, many of these stories are claiming it happened recently, but they happened in 2011, way before this bath room hysteria.



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 Apparently snopes is now one of those damn libs. lol!



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Ah, snopes. The leading expert in unbiased investigation.

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Accuracy ~ Snopes
Jan Harold Brunvand, a folklorist who has written a number of books on urban legends and modern folklore, considers the site so comprehensive as to obviate launching one of his own.[10]

David Mikkelson has said that the site receives more complaints of liberal bias than conservative bias,[22] but insists that the same debunking standards are applied to all political urban legends. FactCheck reviewed a sample of Snopes' responses to political rumors regarding George W. Bush, Sarah Palin, and Barack Obama, and found them to be free from bias in all cases. FactCheck noted that Barbara Mikkelson was a Canadian citizen (and thus unable to vote in US elections)[clarification needed] and David Mikkelson was an independent who was once registered as a Republican. "You'd be hard-pressed to find two more apolitical people," David Mikkelson told them.[22][23]en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snopes.com

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SNOPES IS RUN BY A MAN AND A WOMAN WITH NO BACKGROUND IN INVESTIGATION USING GOOGLE.
Snopes.com has been considered the 'tell-all final word' on any comment, claim and email. Once negative article by them and people point and say, "See, I told you it wasn't true!" But what is Snopes? What are their methods and training that gives them the authority to decide what is true and what is not? For several years people have tried to find out who exactly was behind the website Snopes.com. Only recently did they get to the bottom of it. Are you ready for this? It is run by a husband and wife team - that's right, no big office of investigators scouring public records in Washington, no researchers studying historical stacks in libraries, no team of lawyers reaching a consensus on current caselaw. No, Snopes.com is just a mom-and-pop operation that was started by two people who have absolutely no formal background or experience in investigative research.
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David and Barbara Mikkelson pictured above; are from San Fernando Valley of California. They started their website 'Snopes' about 13 years ago. After a few years it began gaining popularity as people believed it to be unbiased and neutral. But over the past couple of years people started asking questions when 'Snopes' was proven wrong in a number of their conclusions. There were also criticisms the Mikkelsons were not really investigating and getting to the 'true' bottom of various issues, but rather asserting their beliefs in controversial issues.
In 2008, State Farm agent Bud Gregg hoisted a political sign in Mandeville, Louisiana referencing Barack Obama and made a big splash across the internet. The Mikkelson's were quick to "research" this issue and post their condemnation of it on Snopes.com. In their statement they claimed the corporate office of State Farm pressured Mr. Gregg into taking down the sign. In fact, nothing of the sort ever took place. A friend of Mr. Gregg personally contacted David Mikkelson to alert him of the factual inacuracy, leaving him Mr. Gregg's contact phone numbers. Mr. Mikkelson was told that Mr. Gregg would give him the phone numbers to the big exec's at State Farm in Illinois who would inform them that they had never pressured Mr. Gregg to take down his sign.
But the Mikkelson's never called Mr. Gregg. In fact, Mr. Gregg found out that no one from Snopes.com had ever contacted any one with State Farm. Yet, Snopes.com has kept their false story of Mr. Gregg up to this day, as the "final factual word" on the issue.

What is behind Snopes' selfish motivation? A simple review of their "fact-checking" reveals a strong tendency to explain away criticisms towards liberal politicians and public figures while giving conservatives the hatchet job. Religious stories and issues are similarly shown no mercy. With the "main-stream" media quickly losing all credibility with their fawning treatment of President Obama, Snopes is being singled out, along with MSNBC and others, as being particularly biased and agenda-modivated.
So if you really want to know the truth about a story or a rumor you have heard, by all means do not go to Snopes.com! You could do just as well if you were a liberal with an internet connection. Don't go to wikipedia.com either as their team of amateur editors have also been caught in a number of bold-faced liberal-biased untruths. (Such as Wikigate and their religious treatment of Obama.) Take anything these sites say with a grain of salt and an understanding that they are written by people with a motive to criticize all things conservative. Use them only to lead you to solid references where you can read their sources for yourself.
Plus, you can always Google a subject and do the research yourself. It now seems apparent that's all the Mikkelson's do.

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Accuracy ~ Snopes
Jan Harold Brunvand, a folklorist who has written a number of books on urban legends and modern folklore, considers the site so comprehensive as to obviate launching one of his own.[10]

David Mikkelson has said that the site receives more complaints of liberal bias than conservative bias,[22] but insists that the same debunking standards are applied to all political urban legends. FactCheck reviewed a sample of Snopes' responses to political rumors regarding George W. Bush, Sarah Palin, and Barack Obama, and found them to be free from bias in all cases. FactCheck noted that Barbara Mikkelson was a Canadian citizen (and thus unable to vote in US elections)[clarification needed] and David Mikkelson was an independent who was once registered as a Republican. "You'd be hard-pressed to find two more apolitical people," David Mikkelson told them.[22][23]en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snopes.com


 Yes, let's take their own word for it.

 

Snopes words their "questions" in a way as to be able to render them true or false based upon what they want to be able to say.  It's all in the question.

 

 



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I have to rub my forehead every time I read it. The website making a claim Snopes cannot be accurate because they do not have a large team is supposed to be trustworthy when being run by one person. If someone can make sense of that logic, please let me know!!

blog.skepticallibertarian.com/2013/04/27/snopes-liberal-bias-and-trusting-the-internet/

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I haven't trusted snopes in a long time. Know your history folks.

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