TOTALLY GEEKED!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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Is there someone hear disagreeing with that advice flan?

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 husker, for starters.

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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He is disagreeing that people should watch their kids?

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 What I'm reading is that the mother is completely innocent.

flan

flan327 wrote:

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There is a BIG difference between being "vilified" (victim much?) and being held responsible for one's actions.

flan

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 Was the OP about me? I must have missed that part. The only victim I know is you...lol

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FNW wrote:

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I heard this particular zoo was cited in March for leaving a door open, allowing a polar bear to enter an employee room. Yikes.

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 I think I heard that as well, but the gorilla exhibit passed an inspection (MM posted the year).

flan

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 Then it appears the zoo inspectors didn't think a child could get in there, either - and it's their job to know.  Somehow, a visitor is supposed to know more than they do.

flan327 wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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FNW wrote:

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I heard this particular zoo was cited in March for leaving a door open, allowing a polar bear to enter an employee room. Yikes.

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 I think I heard that as well, but the gorilla exhibit passed an inspection (MM posted the year).

flan

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 Then it appears the zoo inspectors didn't think a child could get in there, either - and it's their job to know.  Somehow, a visitor is supposed to know more than they do.

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 No, BUT a mother is supposed to WATCH her child.

I read a story that ANOTHER person had to tell the woman that her child was in the enclosure.

flan

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 And I read the eyewitness account of how quickly it happened.  Yes, she should have been watching her kid, and more importantly, a 4 year old should know enough to listen to "no" - but crap still happens because people aren't perfect.   It's amazing to me that people will defend a parent that FORGETS a child in a hot car, but a parent who can't keep her eye one child constantly is a villain.

But for the grace of God.....

Lawyerlady wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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FNW wrote:

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I heard this particular zoo was cited in March for leaving a door open, allowing a polar bear to enter an employee room. Yikes.

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 I think I heard that as well, but the gorilla exhibit passed an inspection (MM posted the year).

flan

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 Then it appears the zoo inspectors didn't think a child could get in there, either - and it's their job to know.  Somehow, a visitor is supposed to know more than they do.

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 No, BUT a mother is supposed to WATCH her child.

I read a story that ANOTHER person had to tell the woman that her child was in the enclosure.

flan

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 And I read the eyewitness account of how quickly it happened.  Yes, she should have been watching her kid, and more importantly, a 4 year old should know enough to listen to "no" - but crap still happens because people aren't perfect.   It's amazing to me that people will defend a parent that FORGETS a child in a hot car, but a parent who can't keep her eye one child constantly is a villain.

 

But for the grace of God.....

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 I didn't say that, did I?

flan

p.s. Okay, let's say the child was running loose in Target & knocked down a shelf of glass items. Should the parent pay for the damage?

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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We ALL judge.

Just like, we all sin.

flan

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 We all sin?  How is that so?  In order to say that, then you have to believe in God, in a God who judges sin and in Absolute Truth.

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 We are NOT perfect...better?

flan

flan327 wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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We ALL judge.

Just like, we all sin.

flan

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 We all sin?  How is that so?  In order to say that, then you have to believe in God, in a God who judges sin and in Absolute Truth.

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 We are NOT perfect...better?

flan

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 Perfect based on who's standard flan?  Volley for serve!

flan327 wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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Is there someone hear disagreeing with that advice flan?

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 husker, for starters.

flan

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 You are so full of sh!t it's running out your ears.

I NEVER said that parents should not watch their children.  What I've said is that sometimes even the most diligent parents have things happen.  Their kids don't always listen, they turn around to pay attention to another child, or order some food, or God forbid, look at one of the zoo exhibits, themselves, and things can happen in a flash.

flan327 wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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No charges are going to be filed against the parents.

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 This story has a good video (not the ones most of us have seen, but it illustrates the sequence of events):

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/criminal-charges-possible-in-killing-of-cincinnati-gorilla/ar-BBtH9Uc?li=BBnb7Kz

Police may bring criminal charges over a Cincinnati Zoo incident in which a gorilla was killed to rescue a 4-year-old boy who had fallen into its enclosure, a prosecutor said on Tuesday.

And an interesting comment:

Looking at the incident through Harambe's eyes, his former caretaker, Jerry Stones, said in a CNN interview that the breach of his habitat was likely confusing.

"Here is this animal that has this strange thing in his house," Stones said on CNN. "He knew what adult people were but he'd never been around children. It smells similar, it looks similar but 'What is it? Do I play with it? Am I supposed to be afraid of it? What do I do?'"

flan

 

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 They have come out and said they are not bringing charges.

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 The story I quoted was dated yesterday. I'll look when I get a chance.

flan

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 This was on TV last night.

huskerbb wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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huskerbb wrote:

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No charges are going to be filed against the parents.

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 This story has a good video (not the ones most of us have seen, but it illustrates the sequence of events):

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/criminal-charges-possible-in-killing-of-cincinnati-gorilla/ar-BBtH9Uc?li=BBnb7Kz

Police may bring criminal charges over a Cincinnati Zoo incident in which a gorilla was killed to rescue a 4-year-old boy who had fallen into its enclosure, a prosecutor said on Tuesday.

And an interesting comment:

Looking at the incident through Harambe's eyes, his former caretaker, Jerry Stones, said in a CNN interview that the breach of his habitat was likely confusing.

"Here is this animal that has this strange thing in his house," Stones said on CNN. "He knew what adult people were but he'd never been around children. It smells similar, it looks similar but 'What is it? Do I play with it? Am I supposed to be afraid of it? What do I do?'"

flan

 

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 They have come out and said they are not bringing charges.

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 The story I quoted was dated yesterday. I'll look when I get a chance.

flan

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 This was on TV last night.

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Honestly, the number of conflicting stories seem to be multiplying.

I was discussing this with 2 co-workers this morning. Was the father there or not?

One person insisted that Harambe had already fathered a child. I never ran across that.

flan

FNW wrote:

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The mother of that boy is a day care administrator.

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 Yup, that came out fairly early in the whole mess.

flan

huskerbb wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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But, the difference is, avoiding the "accidents" that you have control over.

flan

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 NO ONE can avoid every one of those.  That's patently absurd.  

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 If every "accident" was avoided that people had control over, insurance rates would be absurdly low.

Southern_Belle wrote:

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My coworker who is black was talking about this today. She said no way was this a black family because her people don't go in the water, lol. I pulled up photos of the family and she was shocked. We argue about this all the time when I talk about the beach. I told her I am going to take a picture of "her people" playing in the ocean.

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 No one told me!!!

flan

flan327 wrote:

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Southern_Belle wrote:

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My coworker who is black was talking about this today. She said no way was this a black family because her people don't go in the water, lol. I pulled up photos of the family and she was shocked. We argue about this all the time when I talk about the beach. I told her I am going to take a picture of "her people" playing in the ocean.

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 No one told me!!!

flan

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 I tell my black friends that all the time.  But we always make jokes and don't get offended.

I just read a story about the mom that said CPS has removed the kids from the home twice before.  Apparently the mother told the police that she was taking a selfie at the time the boy climbed in.

flan327 wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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FNW wrote:

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I heard this particular zoo was cited in March for leaving a door open, allowing a polar bear to enter an employee room. Yikes.

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 I think I heard that as well, but the gorilla exhibit passed an inspection (MM posted the year).

flan

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 Then it appears the zoo inspectors didn't think a child could get in there, either - and it's their job to know.  Somehow, a visitor is supposed to know more than they do.

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 No, BUT a mother is supposed to WATCH her child.

I read a story that ANOTHER person had to tell the woman that her child was in the enclosure.

flan

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 And I read the eyewitness account of how quickly it happened.  Yes, she should have been watching her kid, and more importantly, a 4 year old should know enough to listen to "no" - but crap still happens because people aren't perfect.   It's amazing to me that people will defend a parent that FORGETS a child in a hot car, but a parent who can't keep her eye one child constantly is a villain.

 

But for the grace of God.....

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 I didn't say that, did I?

flan

p.s. Okay, let's say the child was running loose in Target & knocked down a shelf of glass items. Should the parent pay for the damage?

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 One more time...

flan

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 BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!