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Lawyerlady wrote:
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Good. Could you try discussing the subject now?

Specifically - because no one has answered my question -

DO YOU THINK IT IS FAIR TO MAKE GIRLS COMPETE AGAINST BIOLOGICAL BOYS?


 Its not that easy. There are many factors. 


 Such as?  It's not like you can decide - hey, this one isn't as strong as this one, so they can compete. 

 

It IS simple.  There is a reason girls and boys have different sports leagues. 


 It seems to me, that it's time to add a third.

Just to be fair.


 There are not enough transgender students to fill teams. 


And, that's a reason to ruin sports for girls?confuse

Can't field a team...don't play.

XX plays for the girls.

XY plays for the boys.

That should be it. End of story.

Why half the population should have to play against boys, who identify as girls, doesn't make sense, to me.no

 



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Fort Worth Mom wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
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Lawyerlady wrote:
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Lawyerlady wrote:

Good. Could you try discussing the subject now?

Specifically - because no one has answered my question -

DO YOU THINK IT IS FAIR TO MAKE GIRLS COMPETE AGAINST BIOLOGICAL BOYS?


 Its not that easy. There are many factors. 


 Such as?  It's not like you can decide - hey, this one isn't as strong as this one, so they can compete. 

 

It IS simple.  There is a reason girls and boys have different sports leagues. 


 It seems to me, that it's time to add a third.

Just to be fair.


 There are not enough transgender students to fill teams. 


And, that's a reason to ruin sports for girls?confuse

Can't field a team...don't play.

XX plays for the girls.

XY plays for the boys.

That should be it. End of story.

Why half the population should have to play against boys, who identify as girls, doesn't make sense, to me.no

 


 I agree completely. 

 

The fight for transgender "rights" have made people lose all common sense and reason.

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Ummm yea, dyke, fag and many other words are offensive, are you really that unaware?


 I'm aware. I just don't care.  


 So what are some offensive nicknames that we can call you, husker?

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Why? Did he call you or someone else here an offensive name? You certainly like to take things that are not about you very personal.

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Ummm yea, dyke, fag and many other words are offensive, are you really that unaware?


 I'm aware. I just don't care.  


 So what are some offensive nicknames that we can call you, husker?

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 I've been called plenty on here.



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The IOC and most of the world's governing bodies allow this, they have done the scientific research on it and say it is fine. Has anyone looked into the scientific research?

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The IOC and most of the world's governing bodies allow this, they have done the scientific research on it and say it is fine. Has anyone looked into the scientific research?


Other governing bodies say that late term abortion and euthanasia are OK too.  Doesn't mean we stoop to their level... 



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Right because abortion and euthanasia have EVERYTHING to do with the IOC.

Switch the subject if you see you might be losing ground, its a common thing for some.

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Right because abortion and euthanasia have EVERYTHING to do with the IOC.

Switch the subject if you see you might be losing ground, its a common thing for some.


 Nooooo...Liberals are the only ones who deflect...

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Right because abortion and euthanasia have EVERYTHING to do with the IOC.

Switch the subject if you see you might be losing ground, its a common thing for some.


 Nooooo...Liberals are the only ones who deflect...

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 Oh yes, I forgot. biggrin

 



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She was pointing out that just because the IOC says it's ok doesn't mean it right. Like abortion and euthanasia, some people think it's ok, and some people think it's murder.

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She was pointing out that just because the IOC says it's ok doesn't mean it right. Like abortion and euthanasia, some people think it's ok, and some people think it's murder.


One would think that intelligent people would understand this... 



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Men (whether they still have their penis or not) shouldn't be competing against women. DNA doesn't change no matter what you'd like to think...

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She was pointing out that just because the IOC says it's ok doesn't mean it right. Like abortion and euthanasia, some people think it's ok, and some people think it's murder.


One would think that intelligent people would understand this... 


 Intelligent people do.



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Peeing, pooping, or even changing clothes - that's one thing. Physically competing in a physical sport is another thing entirely.

I do not support biological males being allowed to compete against biological females. Whether the mind is "correct for the body it's in" or not is irrelevant to this issue, because it's not the mind that's competing - it's the physical body. Men and women are different. In general, there will obviously be rare exceptions, Men are stronger and faster than women. That's just simply how they are.

If they want to mix Men's and Women's Chess, I say go for it. That's mind vs. mind.

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Exactly. Males are biologically stronger than women. Almost every man can over power almost any woman. If the Left wants to live in La La Land and pretend otherwise, then fine but don't force your stupid nonsense on to the rest of us.

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Exactly. Males are biologically stronger than women. Almost every man can over power almost any woman. If the Left wants to live in La La Land and pretend otherwise, then fine but don't force your stupid nonsense on to the rest of us.


 You seem to have limited information as to the hormone treatments etc. that take away the muscle mass. 

We are not talking about a man dressed as a woman competing, its about a man who has gone through the medical process of becoming a woman.

As far as the OP goes, the transgender did not win the race. 

 

 



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Lawyerlady wrote:
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She was pointing out that just because the IOC says it's ok doesn't mean it right. Like abortion and euthanasia, some people think it's ok, and some people think it's murder.


One would think that intelligent people would understand this... 


 Intelligent people do.


 More snark from the good Christians I see.



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apple wrote:
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She was pointing out that just because the IOC says it's ok doesn't mean it right. Like abortion and euthanasia, some people think it's ok, and some people think it's murder.


One would think that intelligent people would understand this... 


 Intelligent people do.


 More snark from the good Christians I see.


 More petty high horse nonsense from you, I see.  



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Lawyerlady wrote:
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She was pointing out that just because the IOC says it's ok doesn't mean it right. Like abortion and euthanasia, some people think it's ok, and some people think it's murder.


One would think that intelligent people would understand this... 


 Intelligent people do.


 More snark from the good Christians I see.


 More petty high horse nonsense from you, I see.  


 Not really, I just call it how I see it and you and your friend seem to take every opportunity to be snarky, condescending and downright rude to certain posters, whenever possible .



-- Edited by apple on Wednesday 8th of June 2016 12:12:39 PM

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Have a look in the mirror apple.

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Have a look in the mirror apple.


 Right.  You mistake my difference of opinion as something personal.



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As you do to others so.....

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As you do to others so.....


 No that is where you are wrong, I take things personally only when they are very obviously personal.

If people could just stick to the facts and not play snarky games, I think we'd all be the better for it.

 



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As you do to others so.....


 No that is where you are wrong, I take things personally only when they are very obviously personal.

If people could just stick to the facts and not play snarky games, I think we'd all be the better for it.

 


 But, for that to happen, a certain level of maturity is required.

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flan you are the most juvenile poster here so we'll start with you maturing ok?

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I'm seeing a trend here.....

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Have a look in the mirror apple.


 Right.  You mistake my difference of opinion as something personal.


 It's not personal unless you identify with it.  And that's your choice.  I have the right to state my opinion about the stupidity of certain viewpoints.  Whether or not that applies to YOU is not within my control.

 

And as for the OP - since the mind thinks it is female and the body doesn't agree - maybe he should sit in the stands and race with his mind.  His body is male.



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Have a look in the mirror apple.


 Right.  You mistake my difference of opinion as something personal.


 It's not personal unless you identify with it.  And that's your choice.  I have the right to state my opinion about the stupidity of certain viewpoints.  Whether or not that applies to YOU is not within my control.

 

And as for the OP - since the mind thinks it is female and the body doesn't agree - maybe he should sit in the stands and race with his mind.  His body is male.


 Yes you have absolute right and power to do whatever you want and YOU set the tone for YOUR board.  Obviously you like this sort of snark that goes on here constantly and who am I to complain or make note of it? 

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Have a look in the mirror apple.


 Right.  You mistake my difference of opinion as something personal.


 It's not personal unless you identify with it.  And that's your choice.  I have the right to state my opinion about the stupidity of certain viewpoints.  Whether or not that applies to YOU is not within my control.

 

And as for the OP - since the mind thinks it is female and the body doesn't agree - maybe he should sit in the stands and race with his mind.  His body is male.


 Yes you have absolute right and power to do whatever you want and YOU set the tone for YOUR board.  Obviously you like this sort of snark that goes on here constantly and who am I to complain or make note of it? 

no


 This board believes in freedom of speech - much more so than the liberal boards you are used to.

This board also has a feature many of them don't - they allow you to delete yourself.  So if you don't like it here, leave.  Otherwise, quit bitching about my moderation or lack thereof - it's not up for debate.  Try reading the rules.



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Lawyerlady wrote:
apple wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
apple wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:

Have a look in the mirror apple.


 Right.  You mistake my difference of opinion as something personal.


 It's not personal unless you identify with it.  And that's your choice.  I have the right to state my opinion about the stupidity of certain viewpoints.  Whether or not that applies to YOU is not within my control.

 

And as for the OP - since the mind thinks it is female and the body doesn't agree - maybe he should sit in the stands and race with his mind.  His body is male.


 Yes you have absolute right and power to do whatever you want and YOU set the tone for YOUR board.  Obviously you like this sort of snark that goes on here constantly and who am I to complain or make note of it? 

no


 This board believes in freedom of speech - much more so than the liberal boards you are used to.

This board also has a feature many of them don't - they allow you to delete yourself.  So if you don't like it here, leave.  Otherwise, quit bitching about my moderation or lack thereof - it's not up for debate.  Try reading the rules.


 First, you know nothing of the boards I am used to, you might be surprised if you actually knew, this board has no features that they don't.

I can delete myself on any board any time. I can voice my opinion on any board, any time unless of course I am banned for voicing that opinion. 

Are you asking me to delete my account? 



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Lawyerlady wrote:
apple wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
apple wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:

Have a look in the mirror apple.


 Right.  You mistake my difference of opinion as something personal.


 It's not personal unless you identify with it.  And that's your choice.  I have the right to state my opinion about the stupidity of certain viewpoints.  Whether or not that applies to YOU is not within my control.

 

And as for the OP - since the mind thinks it is female and the body doesn't agree - maybe he should sit in the stands and race with his mind.  His body is male.


 Yes you have absolute right and power to do whatever you want and YOU set the tone for YOUR board.  Obviously you like this sort of snark that goes on here constantly and who am I to complain or make note of it? 

no


 This board believes in freedom of speech - much more so than the liberal boards you are used to.

This board also has a feature many of them don't - they allow you to delete yourself.  So if you don't like it here, leave.  Otherwise, quit bitching about my moderation or lack thereof - it's not up for debate.  Try reading the rules.


 First, you know nothing of the boards I am used to, you might be surprised if you actually knew, this board has no features that they don't.

I can delete myself on any board any time. I can voice my opinion on any board, any time unless of course I am banned for voicing that opinion. 

Are you asking me to delete my account? 


 No.  I'm reminding you that you are here of your own free will, and if you don't like it, you are free to leave.  

But continually commenting on "my board" and my moderating is not welcome.  

 



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apple wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
apple wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
apple wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:

Have a look in the mirror apple.


 Right.  You mistake my difference of opinion as something personal.


 It's not personal unless you identify with it.  And that's your choice.  I have the right to state my opinion about the stupidity of certain viewpoints.  Whether or not that applies to YOU is not within my control.

 

And as for the OP - since the mind thinks it is female and the body doesn't agree - maybe he should sit in the stands and race with his mind.  His body is male.


 Yes you have absolute right and power to do whatever you want and YOU set the tone for YOUR board.  Obviously you like this sort of snark that goes on here constantly and who am I to complain or make note of it? 

no


 This board believes in freedom of speech - much more so than the liberal boards you are used to.

This board also has a feature many of them don't - they allow you to delete yourself.  So if you don't like it here, leave.  Otherwise, quit bitching about my moderation or lack thereof - it's not up for debate.  Try reading the rules.


 First, you know nothing of the boards I am used to, you might be surprised if you actually knew, this board has no features that they don't.

I can delete myself on any board any time. I can voice my opinion on any board, any time unless of course I am banned for voicing that opinion. 

Are you asking me to delete my account? 


 No.  I'm reminding you that you are here of your own free will, and if you don't like it, you are free to leave.  

But continually commenting on "my board" and my moderating is not welcome.  

 


 Continually? I commented on this being YOUR board a total of ONCE.



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Lawyerlady wrote:
apple wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
apple wrote:
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Have a look in the mirror apple.


 Right.  You mistake my difference of opinion as something personal.


 It's not personal unless you identify with it.  And that's your choice.  I have the right to state my opinion about the stupidity of certain viewpoints.  Whether or not that applies to YOU is not within my control.

 

And as for the OP - since the mind thinks it is female and the body doesn't agree - maybe he should sit in the stands and race with his mind.  His body is male.


 Yes you have absolute right and power to do whatever you want and YOU set the tone for YOUR board.  Obviously you like this sort of snark that goes on here constantly and who am I to complain or make note of it? 

no


 This board believes in freedom of speech - much more so than the liberal boards you are used to.

This board also has a feature many of them don't - they allow you to delete yourself.  So if you don't like it here, leave.  Otherwise, quit bitching about my moderation or lack thereof - it's not up for debate.  Try reading the rules.


 First, you know nothing of the boards I am used to, you might be surprised if you actually knew, this board has no features that they don't.

I can delete myself on any board any time. I can voice my opinion on any board, any time unless of course I am banned for voicing that opinion. 

Are you asking me to delete my account? 


   Yeah, YOU can voice your opinion on any board.  Guess what?  Many conservatives and republicans and Christians cannot.  There are boards where we cannot quote the Bible or even make mention of it.  There are boards where liberal posters can say anything and everything to conservatives, but if conservatives dare to fire back, they get banned.  On this board, you are allowed to voice your opinions.  And, the mods here assume you are grown ups who can work out your own problems and dont' need to run to Safe Spaces to hide when you get Butt hurt.



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Oh I forgot, you are a victim.

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Oh I forgot, you are a victim.


 LOL!  I guess you guys have heard that so much that you think you can just toss it back as if it applies.  But, it doesn't.   So, keep trying and go find your butt hurt safe spaces and whine that everyone is an "ist" or "phobe" all terms your side has invented .



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apple wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
apple wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
apple wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:

Have a look in the mirror apple.


 Right.  You mistake my difference of opinion as something personal.


 It's not personal unless you identify with it.  And that's your choice.  I have the right to state my opinion about the stupidity of certain viewpoints.  Whether or not that applies to YOU is not within my control.

 

And as for the OP - since the mind thinks it is female and the body doesn't agree - maybe he should sit in the stands and race with his mind.  His body is male.


 Yes you have absolute right and power to do whatever you want and YOU set the tone for YOUR board.  Obviously you like this sort of snark that goes on here constantly and who am I to complain or make note of it? 

no


 This board believes in freedom of speech - much more so than the liberal boards you are used to.

This board also has a feature many of them don't - they allow you to delete yourself.  So if you don't like it here, leave.  Otherwise, quit bitching about my moderation or lack thereof - it's not up for debate.  Try reading the rules.


 First, you know nothing of the boards I am used to, you might be surprised if you actually knew, this board has no features that they don't.

I can delete myself on any board any time. I can voice my opinion on any board, any time unless of course I am banned for voicing that opinion. 

Are you asking me to delete my account? 


 No.  I'm reminding you that you are here of your own free will, and if you don't like it, you are free to leave.  

But continually commenting on "my board" and my moderating is not welcome.  

 


 Continually? I commented on this being YOUR board a total of ONCE.


 Bull****.  Do you ever get tired of lying?

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Lawyerlady wrote:
apple wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
apple wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
apple wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
apple wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:

Have a look in the mirror apple.


 Right.  You mistake my difference of opinion as something personal.


 It's not personal unless you identify with it.  And that's your choice.  I have the right to state my opinion about the stupidity of certain viewpoints.  Whether or not that applies to YOU is not within my control.

 

And as for the OP - since the mind thinks it is female and the body doesn't agree - maybe he should sit in the stands and race with his mind.  His body is male.


 Yes you have absolute right and power to do whatever you want and YOU set the tone for YOUR board.  Obviously you like this sort of snark that goes on here constantly and who am I to complain or make note of it? 

no


 This board believes in freedom of speech - much more so than the liberal boards you are used to.

This board also has a feature many of them don't - they allow you to delete yourself.  So if you don't like it here, leave.  Otherwise, quit bitching about my moderation or lack thereof - it's not up for debate.  Try reading the rules.


 First, you know nothing of the boards I am used to, you might be surprised if you actually knew, this board has no features that they don't.

I can delete myself on any board any time. I can voice my opinion on any board, any time unless of course I am banned for voicing that opinion. 

Are you asking me to delete my account? 


 No.  I'm reminding you that you are here of your own free will, and if you don't like it, you are free to leave.  

But continually commenting on "my board" and my moderating is not welcome.  

 


 Continually? I commented on this being YOUR board a total of ONCE.


 Bull****.  Do you ever get tired of lying?

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Lawyerlady wrote:
apple wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
apple wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
apple wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:

Have a look in the mirror apple.


 Right.  You mistake my difference of opinion as something personal.


 It's not personal unless you identify with it.  And that's your choice.  I have the right to state my opinion about the stupidity of certain viewpoints.  Whether or not that applies to YOU is not within my control.

 

And as for the OP - since the mind thinks it is female and the body doesn't agree - maybe he should sit in the stands and race with his mind.  His body is male.


 Yes you have absolute right and power to do whatever you want and YOU set the tone for YOUR board.  Obviously you like this sort of snark that goes on here constantly and who am I to complain or make note of it? 

no


 This board believes in freedom of speech - much more so than the liberal boards you are used to.

This board also has a feature many of them don't - they allow you to delete yourself.  So if you don't like it here, leave.  Otherwise, quit bitching about my moderation or lack thereof - it's not up for debate.  Try reading the rules.


 First, you know nothing of the boards I am used to, you might be surprised if you actually knew, this board has no features that they don't.

I can delete myself on any board any time. I can voice my opinion on any board, any time unless of course I am banned for voicing that opinion. 

Are you asking me to delete my account? 


 No.  I'm reminding you that you are here of your own free will, and if you don't like it, you are free to leave.  

But continually commenting on "my board" and my moderating is not welcome.  

 


 Continually? I commented on this being YOUR board a total of ONCE.


 Bull****.  Do you ever get tired of lying?

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 Doubt it...she revels in lies....


 What's that I hear? Oh, yeah...sounds like a parrot!

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I find it interesting that LL calls me a liar yet cannot come up with any evidence of such lies.

But in her defense, as I am an honest person, I will say that I do believe i did question her moderation a couple years back. So have a party. :)
And yes I know I am welcome to leave, I realize that my questions and post often are not in alignment with many of the beliefs here.



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I find it interesting that LL calls me a liar yet cannot come up with any evidence of such lies.

But in her defense, as I am an honest person, I will say that I do believe i did question her moderation a couple years back. So have a party. :)
And yes I know I am welcome to leave, I realize that my questions and post often are not in alignment with many of the beliefs here.


 Your lies are available to read on the board.  And I'm not the only one that remembers what you post. 

If you lie - I'm going to point it out.  



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I find it interesting that LL calls me a liar yet cannot come up with any evidence of such lies.

But in her defense, as I am an honest person, I will say that I do believe i did question her moderation a couple years back. So have a party. :)
And yes I know I am welcome to leave, I realize that my questions and post often are not in alignment with many of the beliefs here.


 Your lies are available to read on the board.  And I'm not the only one that remembers what you post. 

If you lie - I'm going to point it out.  


 Lies? enough already. I admit that I may have said something about your moderation or the running  of this board before, like years ago.

A faulty memory perhaps, lies. No definitely not, but you go ahead and  point out these alleged lies but make sure they are real lies and not just your personal interpretation of the meanings of memes. You see your interpretation vs mine does not equal a lie.

Perhaps you should look up the meaning of the word lie as you obviously tend to overuse it here and in the wrong way. Thank you for being such a gracious host.

 



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Lawyerlady wrote:
apple wrote:


I find it interesting that LL calls me a liar yet cannot come up with any evidence of such lies.

But in her defense, as I am an honest person, I will say that I do believe i did question her moderation a couple years back. So have a party. :)
And yes I know I am welcome to leave, I realize that my questions and post often are not in alignment with many of the beliefs here.


 Your lies are available to read on the board.  And I'm not the only one that remembers what you post. 

If you lie - I'm going to point it out.  


 Lies? enough already. I admit that I may have said something about your moderation or the running  of this board before, like years ago.

A faulty memory perhaps, lies. No definitely not, but you go ahead and  point out these alleged lies but make sure they are real lies and not just your personal interpretation of the meanings of memes. You see your interpretation vs mine does not equal a lie.

Perhaps you should look up the meaning of the word lie as you obviously tend to overuse it here and in the wrong way. Thank you for being such a gracious host.

 


 Perhaps you should be a better guest and stop bitching about the board.  

And when you say statements like "I have never" when you HAVE - it's a lie.  Knowingly making a false statement is a lie.  And your comment was years ago - your "it's your board" crap has been said in the last month.



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It is your board.

Perhaps you could be more specific, are you calling me a liar for saying it is your board or are you calling me a liar for questioning the moderation?


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It's going to happen some day

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I can see a future where there are no more olympics....no more professional or amateur sporting events because it will have become to ridiculously wrought with of BS and lawsuits....
It's going to happen some day


 It is getting pretty messed up, I agree.



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It is your board.

Perhaps you could be more specific, are you calling me a liar for saying it is your board or are you calling me a liar for questioning the moderation?


 I'm calling you a liar for saying you haven't done it before.  Clear enough?  



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It is your board.

Perhaps you could be more specific, are you calling me a liar for saying it is your board or are you calling me a liar for questioning the moderation?


 I'm calling you a liar for saying you haven't done it before.  Clear enough?  


 No, Done what exactly. 



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