TOTALLY GEEKED!

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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apple wrote:

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just Czech wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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apple wrote:

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Ilumine wrote:

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Did I mention that the Muslims are required to pray out loud?

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 That is interesting and yet not helpful to the topic. :) 

You see it was the Catholic Charity that asked the Catholics not to pray (the rosary) out loud.

 

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 Oh but it is.

Are the muslims being "asked" to do the same? 

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 Oh good gosh, ask the muslims NOT to pray out loud? The libs would have a fit.

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 What do "libs" have to do with this thread? 

In fact the thread's title should be Christians told to "pray in silence" BY Christians. 

I've yet to see any evidence that this isn't the case.

 

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 So the fact the these are muslims have zero to do with it?

Do you believe these muslims aren't unrolling a prayer rug 5 times a day and praying loudly? 

I guess it's ok if the Christian is denied but the Muslim is encouraged. 

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 Its irrelevant how or when the immigrants pray, what is relevant is that the Catholic Church Charity are the ones who ASKED the Catholic Church goers not to pray the rosary out loud.

Is it OKAY? well that is up to you to decide but at least base your opinion on facts.

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 It is facts.

The muslims pray loud.

On prayer rugs.

Lined up.

En masse.

All facing the same direction.

5 times a day. 

With ritual washing.

And segregation. 

The parishioners are being taken to other places to pray because kneeling and whispering a rosary is disruptive. 

Nope. Nothing at all wrong with that at all.

The church charity asked the parishioners to be quiet? That is beyond wrong. It's sinful. Stifling worship of a fellow Christian is actually called a sin in the Bible.

 

lilyofcourse wrote:

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apple wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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apple wrote:

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just Czech wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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apple wrote:

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Ilumine wrote:

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Did I mention that the Muslims are required to pray out loud?

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 That is interesting and yet not helpful to the topic. :) 

You see it was the Catholic Charity that asked the Catholics not to pray (the rosary) out loud.

 

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 Oh but it is.

Are the muslims being "asked" to do the same? 

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 Oh good gosh, ask the muslims NOT to pray out loud? The libs would have a fit.

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 What do "libs" have to do with this thread? 

In fact the thread's title should be Christians told to "pray in silence" BY Christians. 

I've yet to see any evidence that this isn't the case.

 

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 So the fact the these are muslims have zero to do with it?

Do you believe these muslims aren't unrolling a prayer rug 5 times a day and praying loudly? 

I guess it's ok if the Christian is denied but the Muslim is encouraged. 

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 Its irrelevant how or when the immigrants pray, what is relevant is that the Catholic Church Charity are the ones who ASKED the Catholic Church goers not to pray the rosary out loud.

Is it OKAY? well that is up to you to decide but at least base your opinion on facts.

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 It is facts.

The muslims pray loud.

On prayer rugs.

Lined up.

En masse.

All facing the same direction.

5 times a day. 

With ritual washing.

And segregation. 

The parishioners are being taken to other places to pray because kneeling and whispering a rosary is disruptive. 

Nope. Nothing at all wrong with that at all.

The church charity asked the parishioners to be quiet? That is beyond wrong. It's sinful. Stifling worship of a fellow Christian is actually called a sin in the Bible.

 

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 One question for you Lily.  Did the immigrants ask for the rosary prayer not to be said out loud? If so, please provide a link.

Ohfour wrote:

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apple wrote:

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just Czech wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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apple wrote:

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Ilumine wrote:

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Did I mention that the Muslims are required to pray out loud?

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 That is interesting and yet not helpful to the topic. :) 

You see it was the Catholic Charity that asked the Catholics not to pray (the rosary) out loud.

 

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 Oh but it is.

Are the muslims being "asked" to do the same? 

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 Oh good gosh, ask the muslims NOT to pray out loud? The libs would have a fit.

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 What do "libs" have to do with this thread? 

In fact the thread's title should be Christians told to "pray in silence" BY Christians. 

I've yet to see any evidence that this isn't the case.

 

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Libs support Muslims over Christians.   

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 What an idiotic statement.

Victim much?

flan

I'm sure you support this, flan...

www.ijreview.com/2016/06/622817-boy-loved-reading-the-bible-verses-mom-left-in-his-lunchbox-til-cops-showed-up-at-their-front-door/

Ohfour wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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apple wrote:

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just Czech wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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apple wrote:

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Ilumine wrote:

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Did I mention that the Muslims are required to pray out loud?

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 That is interesting and yet not helpful to the topic. :) 

You see it was the Catholic Charity that asked the Catholics not to pray (the rosary) out loud.

 

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 Oh but it is.

Are the muslims being "asked" to do the same? 

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 Oh good gosh, ask the muslims NOT to pray out loud? The libs would have a fit.

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 What do "libs" have to do with this thread? 

In fact the thread's title should be Christians told to "pray in silence" BY Christians. 

I've yet to see any evidence that this isn't the case.

 

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Libs support Muslims over Christians.   

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 What an idiotic statement.

Victim much?

flan

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LOL!  You would know wouldn't you? Poor miserable flannie.  You just can't help but be a parrot can you?

 

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 I'd rather be "miserable" than angry.

Channeling TD is so incredibly mature.

flan

So they just did it on their own? For no reason? That's really really ridiculous that you would even think that...

Note the word "miserable" is in quotes. Can you figure out WHY?

flan

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Ohfour wrote:

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So they just did it on their own? For no reason? That's really really ridiculous that you would even think that...

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 Not really and unless you can prove otherwise, I will continue to believe the Catholic Charity initiated this action.

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Then you go right ahead and show your ignorance.  No skin off my nose... 

Ohfour wrote:

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apple wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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So they just did it on their own? For no reason? That's really really ridiculous that you would even think that...

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 Not really and unless you can prove otherwise, I will continue to believe the Catholic Charity initiated this action.

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Then you go right ahead and show your ignorance.  No skin off my nose... 

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 lol, if your definition of ignorance means basing my opinion on the facts presented, I'll gladly be called ignorant by someone who is in such a hurry to malign people with no evidence whatsoever.

 

apple wrote:

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Ilumine wrote:

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Did I mention that the Muslims are required to pray out loud?

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 That is interesting and yet not helpful to the topic. :) 

You see it was the Catholic Charity that asked the Catholics not to pray (the rosary) out loud.

 

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 And? This misdirection doesn't change the underlying issue. 

you seem to think that becuase it wasn't requested by the immigrants (or specified in the article) that the request is therefor a-okay.  The Catholic Charity is just as wrong to make this request. 

it's just as wrong for the Charity to demand the parishioners who pay for the church and its upkeep to give up their prayers after already giving up full access to the church. 

its just as wrong of the Catholic Charity to expect basic consideration and appreciation from the immigrants for the gift of freedom and free home and board 

pits just as wrong and hypicritical of the Catholic Charity to demand something of the parishioners  that they don't demand of the immigrants. 

so you can continue to try to redirect but In the end, your not debating or winning, your just redirecting. 

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the miserable thing is all the libs defending the MIGRANTS and THEIR sensibilites--complete nonsense--the priest involved is dead wrong--no question about it

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 Can NO ONE read the OP?

"...they were told by Caritas volunteers..."

flan

 

apple wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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apple wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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apple wrote:

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just Czech wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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apple wrote:

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Ilumine wrote:

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Did I mention that the Muslims are required to pray out loud?

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 That is interesting and yet not helpful to the topic. :) 

You see it was the Catholic Charity that asked the Catholics not to pray (the rosary) out loud.

 

---

 Oh but it is.

Are the muslims being "asked" to do the same? 

---

 Oh good gosh, ask the muslims NOT to pray out loud? The libs would have a fit.

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 What do "libs" have to do with this thread? 

In fact the thread's title should be Christians told to "pray in silence" BY Christians. 

I've yet to see any evidence that this isn't the case.

 

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 So the fact the these are muslims have zero to do with it?

Do you believe these muslims aren't unrolling a prayer rug 5 times a day and praying loudly? 

I guess it's ok if the Christian is denied but the Muslim is encouraged. 

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 Its irrelevant how or when the immigrants pray, what is relevant is that the Catholic Church Charity are the ones who ASKED the Catholic Church goers not to pray the rosary out loud.

Is it OKAY? well that is up to you to decide but at least base your opinion on facts.

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 It is facts.

The muslims pray loud.

On prayer rugs.

Lined up.

En masse.

All facing the same direction.

5 times a day. 

With ritual washing.

And segregation. 

The parishioners are being taken to other places to pray because kneeling and whispering a rosary is disruptive. 

Nope. Nothing at all wrong with that at all.

The church charity asked the parishioners to be quiet? That is beyond wrong. It's sinful. Stifling worship of a fellow Christian is actually called a sin in the Bible.

 

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 One question for you Lily.  Did the immigrants ask for the rosary prayer not to be said out loud? If so, please provide a link.

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 How do you do that? 

flan327 wrote:

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Prove your assumption?

You can't. That's the point.

flan

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ya, who needs real indelible facts, its so inconvenient.

lilyofcourse wrote:

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apple wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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Prove your assumption?

You can't. That's the point.

flan

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ya, who needs real indelible facts, its so inconvenient.

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 No.

Function with your head up your own butt.

 

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 No thanks, you're doing a fine job.

She just repeats whatever you say and tries to toss that back I guess.

flan327 wrote:

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burns07 wrote:

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the miserable thing is all the libs defending the MIGRANTS and THEIR sensibilites--complete nonsense--the priest involved is dead wrong--no question about it

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 Can NO ONE read the OP?

"...they were told by Caritas volunteers..."

flan

 

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 So dumbass volunteers are telling people not to pray out loud in the church they are allowing them to use.  Idiots.

I don't care if the church itself initiated the request to not pray out loud. Who started it isn't the problem. The problem is that it was done in the first place. If hearing a Christian prayer is so offensive to a Muslim then perhaps the Muslims ought to seek refuge in a place that isn't a church. If Christians were seeking refuge at a mosque, I would tell them the same thing: Accept that you will hear Muslim prayer or go elsewhere.

It is wrong for immigrants to expect people to change for them. Don't move there if you don't like the laws, rules, customs, mores, etc.
- chef

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Well said!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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If this situation was reversed the Left would be OUTRAGED for sure. Uh huh.

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 I am outraged by your comment.

flan

apple wrote:

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WYSIWYG wrote:

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I don't care if the church itself initiated the request to not pray out loud. Who started it isn't the problem. The problem is that it was done in the first place. If hearing a Christian prayer is so offensive to a Muslim then perhaps the Muslims ought to seek refuge in a place that isn't a church. If Christians were seeking refuge at a mosque, I would tell them the same thing: Accept that you will hear Muslim prayer or go elsewhere.

It is wrong for immigrants to expect people to change for them. Don't move there if you don't like the laws, rules, customs, mores, etc.
- chef

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Well said!

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 So you are switching the topic to not welcoming the immigrants instead of the actual OP .... Could that be because of the fact that nobody here can prove that the immigrants asked for this?

Where do you suggest these homeless people go? Just curious...

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Canada?  

apple wrote:

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Lexxy wrote:

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apple wrote:

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WYSIWYG wrote:

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I don't care if the church itself initiated the request to not pray out loud. Who started it isn't the problem. The problem is that it was done in the first place. If hearing a Christian prayer is so offensive to a Muslim then perhaps the Muslims ought to seek refuge in a place that isn't a church. If Christians were seeking refuge at a mosque, I would tell them the same thing: Accept that you will hear Muslim prayer or go elsewhere.

It is wrong for immigrants to expect people to change for them. Don't move there if you don't like the laws, rules, customs, mores, etc.
- chef

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Well said!

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 So you are switching the topic to not welcoming the immigrants instead of the actual OP .... Could that be because of the fact that nobody here can prove that the immigrants asked for this?

Where do you suggest these homeless people go? Just curious...

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Canada?  

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 Well, smartass, Canada has always welcomed immigrants, we even took in more of the Syrian refugees than you all did. SO there!!

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I know.  You also let the Chinese in.  How is that one working out?

In all seriousness when I was in Europe in 2002 they were already worried about how many Muslims were immigrating.  They were starting to over run things.  This was shortly after 9/11 so it might have been a bit of a panic but it also might be ongoing. 

Ohfour wrote:

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apple wrote:

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WYSIWYG wrote:

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I don't care if the church itself initiated the request to not pray out loud. Who started it isn't the problem. The problem is that it was done in the first place. If hearing a Christian prayer is so offensive to a Muslim then perhaps the Muslims ought to seek refuge in a place that isn't a church. If Christians were seeking refuge at a mosque, I would tell them the same thing: Accept that you will hear Muslim prayer or go elsewhere.

It is wrong for immigrants to expect people to change for them. Don't move there if you don't like the laws, rules, customs, mores, etc.
- chef

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Well said!

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 So you are switching the topic to not welcoming the immigrants instead of the actual OP .... Could that be because of the fact that nobody here can prove that the immigrants asked for this?

Where do you suggest these homeless people go? Just curious...

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Back home.  If they don't like it, they can go back to where they came from.  I'll even buy tickets... 

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 I'm not sure that you know what the word refugee means. 

WYSIWYG wrote:

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I don't care if the church itself initiated the request to not pray out loud. Who started it isn't the problem. The problem is that it was done in the first place. If hearing a Christian prayer is so offensive to a Muslim then perhaps the Muslims ought to seek refuge in a place that isn't a church. If Christians were seeking refuge at a mosque, I would tell them the same thing: Accept that you will hear Muslim prayer or go elsewhere.

It is wrong for immigrants to expect people to change for them. Don't move there if you don't like the laws, rules, customs, mores, etc.
- chef

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Well said!

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 Thanks :)

Lily --

Surprise! All of us knew who the migrants were, before you asked repeatedly...

flan

apple wrote:

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WYSIWYG wrote:

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I don't care if the church itself initiated the request to not pray out loud. Who started it isn't the problem. The problem is that it was done in the first place. If hearing a Christian prayer is so offensive to a Muslim then perhaps the Muslims ought to seek refuge in a place that isn't a church. If Christians were seeking refuge at a mosque, I would tell them the same thing: Accept that you will hear Muslim prayer or go elsewhere.

It is wrong for immigrants to expect people to change for them. Don't move there if you don't like the laws, rules, customs, mores, etc.
- chef

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Well said!

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 So you are switching the topic to not welcoming the immigrants instead of the actual OP .... Could that be because of the fact that nobody here can prove that the immigrants asked for this?

Where do you suggest these homeless people go? Just curious...

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 I'm not switching the topic nor did I say to not welcome the immigrants. Read the first two sentences of what I wrote, especially the second one. I bolded it. Now, read what I put in red. The church's primary duty is to its parishioners. Yes, help the immigrants - but not at the cost of your parishioners and certainly not ignoring Biblical teaching re prayer. Read again what I put in red. If Christian prayer is so offensive, go elsewhere. Lastly, read what I put in blue. Going into someone's home and expecting the laws, rules, etc. to change for you in rude. The immigrants are guests in that church. And, they can feel welcomed even if they hear a Christian prayer.

Where do I suggest they go? I don't really care. All I want is that for them to accept the laws, rules, etc. of wherever they do go. Presumably, they're fleeing their home country because they don't like the situation there. But they want their new country to adopt the same laws? No. If they desire to live under the laws they fled from, they can turn around and go right back to their home country. They should be grateful for the opportunity to escape the situation in their home country. They should be trying in earnest to assimilate into their new country. Some do, I'm sure. Perhaps even most. The ones who don't should be sent back to their home country.

Again, it doesn't matter who started it. It doesn't matter if the immigrants asked for it and that fact didn't get reported. It doesn't matter if the church itself hatched the idea and went with it. Point is, it shouldn't have happened. And truly, it's more heinous if the church was the originator of the idea. A church that tells its parishioners to not pray aloud for fear of offending someone is a false church.