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DEAR MISS MANNERS: When I attended a concert by a very famous singer, everyone was very excited, and as the artist took the stage, the audience rose, cheering and applauding.

Usually by the second song, the audience settles down and takes their seats, but not this particular crowd. By the fourth song, just about everyone was still standing. Shouts of "Down in front!" started coming from the patrons in the rows behind my friend and me, and we immediately sat down.

Problem was, everyone in front of us remained on their feet. We sat for a bit, and then because we couldn't see anything, we rose again, angering the people directly behind me, who started hurling insults and expletives.

I turned around and explained that I couldn't see anything because everyone else remained standing. When I turned back toward the stage, someone behind me called me a fat pig and slapped the back of my head.

I threatened to have them arrested, but I did sit down. My friend, now out of spite, remained standing until everyone in front of us finally settled down when the artist finally did a slow song.

How could I have handled this better?

GENTLE READER: Having not responded to the threat of arrest, the people behind you demonstrated that they were immune to reason. This may be why they did not notice your problem with the people in front of you.

Miss Manners suggests gesturing toward those who are standing and blocking your view, and then getting out of the way and looking out for some official who might intervene, if not arrest them, if things turn more violent.

 

http://www.uexpress.com/miss-manners/2016/6/7/no-point-in-reasoning-with-angry



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I'm sorry, but I burst out laughing when I read this:

When I turned back toward the stage, someone behind me called me a fat pig and slapped the back of my head.

And, on behalf of pigs everywhere, I am HIGHLY offended!!!!!!

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People stand at concerts. And, for some of them, people stand the entire time. It is just the way it is. Wanna see? Then stand up too. Or, pay more money and get front row tickets.

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If someone slapped me, i would not only stand in front of them, i would sit on my friend's shoulders for the rest of the concert. What are ya gonna do about it PUNK!

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People stand at concerts. And, for some of them, people stand the entire time. It is just the way it is. Wanna see? Then stand up too. Or, pay more money and get front row tickets.


Seriously.  People stand at most concerts I go to.  I mean, who can sit when Lynyrd Skynyrd is jamming?????wink 



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She should have had them arrested. You never put your hands on someone.
And you can see if the people two rows ahead of you are also standing at most venues.
That's crazy.

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People stand. Deal with it.

We sat in the front row (second tier) at a Billy Joel concert. For the most part we stayed seated, because there was no one in front of us. Next to me were a couple of young guys who were a little tipsy and wild. When they started to crowd my personal space, I gently nudged them back. They tried to give me money for disturbing me, but I wouldn't take it. They explained that they just came home from serving in Afghanistan and were happy to be back in the U.S. I thanked them for the service, shook their hands, and was glad to see them home and having a good time.

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At the very least, she should have gotten security and had them removed.

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This is why I like that first set of risers.

Generally by the fourth song, things are being passed around and everyone is having a grand ol time.



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I have never been to a concert where people sat. Except for the symphony.

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I've been to a lot of different types of concerts. From gospel to death metal.

In venues from church to arena.

And it really depends on where you at in the audience.



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I'd flick my Bic at them.

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I've been to a lot of different types of concerts. From gospel to death metal.

In venues from church to arena.

And it really depends on where you at in the audience.


  If it is a rock concert, then i expect people stand.  If it is a play or show, then i expect people to sit.  



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I'd flick my Bic at them.


 They still allow those in?  Last few I've been to we light up our cell phones for an encore.



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If you are a smoker you'll have one!

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I thought they confiscated them at the gate.

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Nah, I have never been.

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They weren't going to allow me to take my purse into the Taylor Swift concert. They stood outside with an 8 x 11 piece of paper and said you were not allowed to have a purse bigger than that. Why? Who the heck knows? Anyway, i pretended to throw it away, then i stuffed my purse under my shirt and went in. ANd, when i was in there, there were women with bigger purses than me. Just more "Rules for the sake of rules" that someone decided on that have no point.

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They weren't going to allow me to take my purse into the Taylor Swift concert. They stood outside with an 8 x 11 piece of paper and said you were not allowed to have a purse bigger than that. Why? Who the heck knows? Anyway, i pretended to throw it away, then i stuffed my purse under my shirt and went in. ANd, when i was in there, there were women with bigger purses than me. Just more "Rules for the sake of rules" that someone decided on that have no point.


It so you don't take in drinks... 



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They weren't going to allow me to take my purse into the Taylor Swift concert. They stood outside with an 8 x 11 piece of paper and said you were not allowed to have a purse bigger than that. Why? Who the heck knows? Anyway, i pretended to throw it away, then i stuffed my purse under my shirt and went in. ANd, when i was in there, there were women with bigger purses than me. Just more "Rules for the sake of rules" that someone decided on that have no point.


It so you don't take in drinks... 


 I know.  They dont want you to smuggle stuff in.  But , they used to just search and look into your purse.  I am fine with that.  But, a gal has to have her purse!



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we jammed nips down my friends cast one time. he, he

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Just search my purse. What is the big deal? That is what they always used to do. And, my purse is fairly small. It was only slightly bigger than that piece of paper. I don't carry a big ass purse that is the size of a diaper bag, lol.

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LOL!

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If you are a smoker you'll have one!


 If it's an indoor concert, you can't smoke. 



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Mellow Momma wrote:
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If you are a smoker you'll have one!


 If it's an indoor concert, you can't smoke. 


That depends on where you are.  I go to plenty of concerts that allow smoking indoors... 



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They weren't going to allow me to take my purse into the Taylor Swift concert. They stood outside with an 8 x 11 piece of paper and said you were not allowed to have a purse bigger than that. Why? Who the heck knows? Anyway, i pretended to throw it away, then i stuffed my purse under my shirt and went in. ANd, when i was in there, there were women with bigger purses than me. Just more "Rules for the sake of rules" that someone decided on that have no point.


It so you don't take in drinks... 


 Then they'd better sell it.  A concert without booze is like a wedding without it.



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Yeah, they sold beer. But, i don't think you can smoke either indoors or outdoors around here. It was in a stadium. I believe that is no smoking.

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If you are a smoker you'll have one!


 If it's an indoor concert, you can't smoke. 


That depends on where you are.  I go to plenty of concerts that allow smoking indoors... 


 Really? There is a state law against it in most places. No smoking indoors. Anywhere. 



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Mellow Momma wrote:
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If you are a smoker you'll have one!


 If it's an indoor concert, you can't smoke. 


That depends on where you are.  I go to plenty of concerts that allow smoking indoors... 


 Really? There is a state law against it in most places. No smoking indoors. Anywhere. 


Hmmm...You must not have been South lately.  In KY, you can smoke anywhere you want, restaurants, concert halls, even places like NAPA and Auto Zone have ashtrays on the counters... 

And there are plenty of places in TN you can smoke too.  All bars, several restaurants...

Also, most concert venues G plays at allows smoking...



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I have never been to a concert where people sat. Except for the symphony.


 This, it is just how it is. Telling people to sit down is considered rude.

 



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Ohfour wrote:
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If you are a smoker you'll have one!


 If it's an indoor concert, you can't smoke. 


That depends on where you are.  I go to plenty of concerts that allow smoking indoors... 


 Really? There is a state law against it in most places. No smoking indoors. Anywhere. 


Hmmm...You must not have been South lately.  In KY, you can smoke anywhere you want, restaurants, concert halls, even places like NAPA and Auto Zone have ashtrays on the counters... 

And there are plenty of places in TN you can smoke too.  All bars, several restaurants...

Also, most concert venues G plays at allows smoking...


 Actually I have been in the south recently. The places I was at didn't allow smoking indoors.



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Mellow Momma wrote:
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If you are a smoker you'll have one!


 If it's an indoor concert, you can't smoke. 


That depends on where you are.  I go to plenty of concerts that allow smoking indoors... 


 Really? There is a state law against it in most places. No smoking indoors. Anywhere. 


Hmmm...You must not have been South lately.  In KY, you can smoke anywhere you want, restaurants, concert halls, even places like NAPA and Auto Zone have ashtrays on the counters... 

And there are plenty of places in TN you can smoke too.  All bars, several restaurants...

Also, most concert venues G plays at allows smoking...


 Actually I have been in the south recently. The places I was at didn't allow smoking indoors.


Well, you must not have frequented the places we do... 



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States with no statewide smoking ban[edit]

As of January 2014, 10 states have not enacted any general statewide ban on smoking in any non-government-owned spaces: Alabama, Alaska, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Texas, West Virginia, and Wyoming. Instead, laws in most of these states (see individual state listings below for further information) require proprietors of certain places to designate smoking and non-smoking areas and post warning signage.

In Oklahoma, state law prohibits local governments from regulating smoking more strictly than the state, making it the only state without any kind of legislated smoking bans. In the other nine states, cities and/or counties have enacted stricter smoking laws than the state, in some cases banning smoking in all enclosed workplaces. In Alabama and Mississippi, the state smoking law expressly allows all local governments to do so. In Alaska, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina, Texas, and West Virginia, a court has ruled that certain local governments have the power to do so.

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States with no statewide smoking ban[edit]

As of January 2014, 10 states have not enacted any general statewide ban on smoking in any non-government-owned spaces: Alabama, Alaska, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Texas, West Virginia, and Wyoming. Instead, laws in most of these states (see individual state listings below for further information) require proprietors of certain places to designate smoking and non-smoking areas and post warning signage.

In Oklahoma, state law prohibits local governments from regulating smoking more strictly than the state, making it the only state without any kind of legislated smoking bans. In the other nine states, cities and/or counties have enacted stricter smoking laws than the state, in some cases banning smoking in all enclosed workplaces. In Alabama and Mississippi, the state smoking law expressly allows all local governments to do so. In Alaska, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina, Texas, and West Virginia, a court has ruled that certain local governments have the power to do so.


 So 10 states out of 50 don't prohibit it. That's amazing to me. Previous to the ban we would have to get up and leave restaurants or ask to switch tables if there was a smoker nearby. The ban has made things much easier. 



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lilyofcourse wrote:

I've been to a lot of different types of concerts. From gospel to death metal.

In venues from church to arena.

And it really depends on where you at in the audience.


  If it is a rock concert, then i expect people stand.  If it is a play or show, then i expect people to sit.  


 I don't know.

Ozzy, Motley Crue, Sepultra, Type O Negative, Poison, Warrant, Rat, all of them, we sat during parts, stoo during others.

 



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They weren't going to allow me to take my purse into the Taylor Swift concert. They stood outside with an 8 x 11 piece of paper and said you were not allowed to have a purse bigger than that. Why? Who the heck knows? Anyway, i pretended to throw it away, then i stuffed my purse under my shirt and went in. ANd, when i was in there, there were women with bigger purses than me. Just more "Rules for the sake of rules" that someone decided on that have no point.


It so you don't take in drinks... 


 I know.  They dont want you to smuggle stuff in.  But , they used to just search and look into your purse.  I am fine with that.  But, a gal has to have her purse!


 Or be able to steal merchandise. 

I never took anything in but my keys and money.

 



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 If it's an indoor concert, you can't smoke. 


That depends on where you are.  I go to plenty of concerts that allow smoking indoors... 


 And the concerts ivery been to, it isnt cigarettes being smoked.



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Yeah if someone touched me like that it would probably override everything my medications do for me! I would hit back, and probably get my butt beat because I am tiny but I don't care

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Mellow Momma wrote:
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States with no statewide smoking ban[edit]

As of January 2014, 10 states have not enacted any general statewide ban on smoking in any non-government-owned spaces: Alabama, Alaska, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Texas, West Virginia, and Wyoming. Instead, laws in most of these states (see individual state listings below for further information) require proprietors of certain places to designate smoking and non-smoking areas and post warning signage.

In Oklahoma, state law prohibits local governments from regulating smoking more strictly than the state, making it the only state without any kind of legislated smoking bans. In the other nine states, cities and/or counties have enacted stricter smoking laws than the state, in some cases banning smoking in all enclosed workplaces. In Alabama and Mississippi, the state smoking law expressly allows all local governments to do so. In Alaska, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina, Texas, and West Virginia, a court has ruled that certain local governments have the power to do so.


 So 10 states out of 50 don't prohibit it. That's amazing to me. Previous to the ban we would have to get up and leave restaurants or ask to switch tables if there was a smoker nearby. The ban has made things much easier. 


 Are you amazed because you think that's a low number or a high number? I cant quite tell....



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They weren't going to allow me to take my purse into the Taylor Swift concert. They stood outside with an 8 x 11 piece of paper and said you were not allowed to have a purse bigger than that. Why? Who the heck knows? Anyway, i pretended to throw it away, then i stuffed my purse under my shirt and went in. ANd, when i was in there, there were women with bigger purses than me. Just more "Rules for the sake of rules" that someone decided on that have no point.


It so you don't take in drinks... 


 I know.  They dont want you to smuggle stuff in.  But , they used to just search and look into your purse.  I am fine with that.  But, a gal has to have her purse!


 Or be able to steal merchandise. 

I never took anything in but my keys and money.

 


 Ok, well yes they sell merchandise.  And, they give people these huge bags for one tshirt.  So, you could easily fill that bag full of stolen things.



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States with no statewide smoking ban[edit]

As of January 2014, 10 states have not enacted any general statewide ban on smoking in any non-government-owned spaces: Alabama, Alaska, Kentucky, Mississippi, Missouri, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Texas, West Virginia, and Wyoming. Instead, laws in most of these states (see individual state listings below for further information) require proprietors of certain places to designate smoking and non-smoking areas and post warning signage.

In Oklahoma, state law prohibits local governments from regulating smoking more strictly than the state, making it the only state without any kind of legislated smoking bans. In the other nine states, cities and/or counties have enacted stricter smoking laws than the state, in some cases banning smoking in all enclosed workplaces. In Alabama and Mississippi, the state smoking law expressly allows all local governments to do so. In Alaska, Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina, Texas, and West Virginia, a court has ruled that certain local governments have the power to do so.


 So 10 states out of 50 don't prohibit it. That's amazing to me. Previous to the ban we would have to get up and leave restaurants or ask to switch tables if there was a smoker nearby. The ban has made things much easier. 


 Are you amazed because you think that's a low number or a high number? I cant quite tell....


 I think it's amazing that there are 10 states without a ban. Too many. I am currently at another seminar and it's on a college campus. The entire campus is tobacco free. If you want to smoke, even vape, you need to leave campus entirely. 



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I had no idea either, MM.

TEN states that don't ban smoking? The effects of second-hand smoke could not be any clearer.

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I had no idea either, MM.

TEN states that don't ban smoking? The effects of second-hand smoke could not be any clearer.

flan


 Yes, but people like to ignore studies when they don't say what they want them to.



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I had no idea either, MM.

TEN states that don't ban smoking? The effects of second-hand smoke could not be any clearer.

flan


 Yes, but people like to ignore studies when they don't say what they want them to.


 Aren't you precious?

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I had no idea either, MM.

TEN states that don't ban smoking? The effects of second-hand smoke could not be any clearer.

flan


 Yes, but people like to ignore studies when they don't say what they want them to.


 Aren't you precious?

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 My friends and family think so.



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I had no idea either, MM.

TEN states that don't ban smoking? The effects of second-hand smoke could not be any clearer.

flan


Typical liberal response.  It's all about controlling the masses.  The state should not be dictating where people can smoke.  That should be up to the people. 

But liberals are all about suppressing freedom... 



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As do mine.

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I had no idea either, MM.

TEN states that don't ban smoking? The effects of second-hand smoke could not be any clearer.

flan


Typical liberal response.  It's all about controlling the masses.  The state should not be dictating where people can smoke.  That should be up to the people. 

But liberals are all about suppressing freedom... 


 I completely disagree.  Smoking affects those around you.  



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Lawyerlady wrote:
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I had no idea either, MM.

TEN states that don't ban smoking? The effects of second-hand smoke could not be any clearer.

flan


Typical liberal response.  It's all about controlling the masses.  The state should not be dictating where people can smoke.  That should be up to the people. 

But liberals are all about suppressing freedom... 


 I completely disagree.  Smoking affects those around you.  


Then don't patronize places that allow smoking.  That's the way it's done in KY... 



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Lots of strange things are done in Kentucky.

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