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After the recent death of famous champion heavyweight boxer Muhammad Ali, liberals, blacks, and even conservatives have flooded social media with praise for the sports legend. However, one African woman is wondering if blacks who are mourning his loss have lost their minds — and it’s all because of one thing most are too star-struck to realize.

Mona Walter is an ex-Muslim Somali activist who is determined to expose what her former religion has done for 1,400 years and is planning to do to Western countries. After immigrating to Sweden when she was 19, she was given the opportunity to read the Quran for the first time. It was discovering the violent passages and racially charged scriptures against blacks and Jews that prompted Mona to convert to Christianity and dedicate her life to exposing Islam. However, she not only sees this dangerous ideology infiltrating through mass Muslim migration but also being glamorized through celebrity gossip.

Because of Mona’s extensive knowledge of slavery in the Quran and hadith, including the Islamic Prophet Muhammad’s trade of black slaves, she wants to know why Muhammad, who claimed he was escaping “slavery” of the white Christianity, converted to a religion whose holy man enslaved blacks.

“Something is wrong when [a] black man converted to Islam in modern time,” she says. “Something is wrong with that because Islam is the religion of slavery. You know, his name is Muhammad Ali. Muhammad is a master, a slave master. So how is that this Muhammad Ali is fleeing a slave master and he went to another slave master?“

She goes on to explain that white people beat themselves up all the time for slavery in the West, while Muslims, who own over 14 million blacks to this day, have no apology for their bigotry and inhumanity. She points out the hypocrisy of blacks demanding reparations from whites since it was the white Christians who fought and died to abolish slavery in America.

“Do you know, the time Muhammad Ali converted to Islam, the black people were in chains like this in Saudi Arabia. In the 60s, Saudi Arabia had enslaved all the Middle East. The Muslim Arabs, they had slaves, black slaves like me, from Africa! They had black slaves in the 60s! And this man converted to Islam. Something is wrong with that. That is you are a traitor. You betrayed your African race.”

Mona expresses her disbelief that many don’t know that it was the Arabs who were raping and kidnapping millions of Africans long before they began selling them to the U.S. In fact, it was the Arabs and African Muslims who initiated the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade, with many enslaving their own people because of their newfound religion.

After receiving her first introduction to Islamic text in early adulthood, Mona still can’t believe how any black person could willingly convert to Islam. According to the hadith, the Islamic Prophet Muhammad would trade 2 blacks for 1 Arab slave, reducing their worth by even more than they were already considered. Aside from this, he often pointed to his black slave, Nabtal, to describe how Satan looks.

Ishaq:243 “I heard the Apostle say: ‘Whoever wants to see Satan should look at Nabtal!’ He was a black man with long flowing hair, inflamed eyes, and dark ruddy cheeks…. Allah sent down concerning him: ‘To those who annoy the Prophet there is a painful doom.” [9:61] “Gabriel came to Muhammad and said, ‘If a black man comes to you his heart is more gross than a donkey’s.’”

Further building his Caliphate on racism and slavery, Muhammad ordered a black slave to build the pulpit from which he preached Allah’s commands. However, the most offensive scripture comes from Muhammad himself, who said that when Allah created black people, he meant for them all to go to hell.

Mona explains that when she read all of this, she knew she must warn her people of this deceptive ideology.

“I didn’t know what I was a part of. I didn’t know who Muhammad was. I didn’t know who Allah was. So, when I found out, I was upset. I was sad and I was disappointed,” she recalled. “It’s about hating and killing those who disagree with Islam. It’s about conquering. Muhammad, he was immoral. He was a bloodthirsty man. He was terrible man, and Muslims can read that in his biography — what he did to Jews, how he raped women, how he killed people. I mean, he killed everyone who didn’t agree with him.”

 

Unfortunately, millions of blacks will never listen to Mona or the racist scriptures within the Quran and hadith, as blacks continue to convert to Islam and ignorant Westerners praise those who do. In fact, Islam is the fastest growing religion in the U.S. and the world.



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Most people ignore the truth about slavery.

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Gonna be interesting to see the spin on this one.

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The man is barely cold and she is after her five minutes. Disgusting.
Shame on you Mona Walter.no



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She raises a valid question.

Care to address that?

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She raises a valid question.

Care to address that?

 No, not really. I don't see it as worthy of comment. But if you insist....

Your view on Christianity may be different than many others.

Her view on Islam may be different than many others.

She does not have intimate knowledge of what exactly Mohammed Ali believed and I am fairly certain she is using his name to get attention for her own agenda. 

Using a recently deceased persons fame to get attention, that is what I don't care for. She may very well have a point but I'm pretty sure I have heard mention on this board of speaking ill of the dead etc...

 

 



-- Edited by apple on Tuesday 7th of June 2016 07:17:55 PM

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apple wrote:
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She raises a valid question.

Care to address that?

 No, not really. I don't see it as worthy of comment. But if you insist....

Your view on Christianity may be different than many others.

Her view on Islam may be different than many others.

She does not have intimate knowledge of what exactly Mohammed Ali believed and I am fairly certain she is using his name to get attention for her own agenda. 

Using a recently deceased persons fame to get attention, that is what I don't care for. She may very well have a point but I'm pretty sure I have heard mention on this board of speaking ill of the dead etc...

 

 



-- Edited by apple on Tuesday 7th of June 2016 07:17:55 PM

 Her view on Islam is taken from the horrible teachings of the Quran.  Our view of Christianity is taken from the Bible. Muhammad was a pedophile and a rapist. 



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apple wrote:
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She raises a valid question.

Care to address that?

 No, not really. I don't see it as worthy of comment. But if you insist....

Your view on Christianity may be different than many others.

Her view on Islam may be different than many others.

She does not have intimate knowledge of what exactly Mohammed Ali believed and I am fairly certain she is using his name to get attention for her own agenda. 

Using a recently deceased persons fame to get attention, that is what I don't care for. She may very well have a point but I'm pretty sure I have heard mention on this board of speaking ill of the dead etc...

 

 



-- Edited by apple on Tuesday 7th of June 2016 07:17:55 PM

 So she can't possibly be right because you don't agree with her.

 



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Is it true?

About the slavery?



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Actually, she isn't the only one who spoke up negatively about Ali. i heard an interview, didn't catch the interviewee's name, but they did talk about his arrogance and narcissism, which are indicative traits of many star athletes, nothing really mind blowing. His best and most vocal supporters are other athletes and fans, people who really didn't know him personally. Ii think his greatest achievement was bringing Parkinson's to the fore front and thus compelling the medical sector to research it AND he compelled the boxing leagues to implement safety standards. Those two items are huge.

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Is it true?

About the slavery?

 Yes it is true.  Why the US is the only country being flamed for slavery is beyond me.  It was the state of the world for many years.  The dominant tribes is Africa would sell captured tribes as slaves.  And yes that means black men selling black men.



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Wasn't the first Slave owner a black man? Regardless I'm glad we abolished slavery.

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Is it true?

About the slavery?

 Yes it is true.  Why the US is the only country being flamed for slavery is beyond me.  It was the state of the world for many years.  The dominant tribes is Africa would sell captured tribes as slaves.  And yes that means black men selling black men.

 I know it's true.

I was asking Apple because she seems unable to address the issues.



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lilyofcourse wrote:
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Is it true?

About the slavery?

 Yes it is true.  Why the US is the only country being flamed for slavery is beyond me.  It was the state of the world for many years.  The dominant tribes is Africa would sell captured tribes as slaves.  And yes that means black men selling black men.

 I know it's true.

I was asking Apple because she seems unable to address the issues.

 You always fall back on that tired accusation.

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The man is barely cold and she is after her five minutes. Disgusting.
Shame on you Mona Walter.no

 If she felt so strongly, why didn't she speak up BEFORE he died?

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Maybe she did? People have a habit of ignoring the bad when it comes to celebrities.

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flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
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Is it true?

About the slavery?

 Yes it is true.  Why the US is the only country being flamed for slavery is beyond me.  It was the state of the world for many years.  The dominant tribes is Africa would sell captured tribes as slaves.  And yes that means black men selling black men.

 I know it's true.

I was asking Apple because she seems unable to address the issues.

 You always fall back on that tired accusation.

flan

 But true.



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Bwahahaha! Africans are still enslave TODAY by Islam owners and the take is "Ali was a great man for converting to Islam?" Bwahahahaha

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The timing is suspect, timed to get the most attention for her cause.

I never said I agreed or disagreed with her cause, all I am saying is that I disagree with, and find her timing rather self serving and shameful in that Ali has only very recently passed.


What I do find hypocritical is that the very same posters who condemn people for speaking ill of the recently deceased, have suddenly changed their tune.


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What posters condemned others for speaking ill of the newly dead and what was the ill they were speaking? If it's the truth then whether they're dead or not it's still the truth.

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The timing is suspect, timed to get the most attention for her cause.

I never said I agreed or disagreed with her cause, all I am saying is that I disagree with, and find her timing rather self serving and shameful in that Ali has only very recently passed.


What I do find hypocritical is that the very same posters who condemn people for speaking ill of the recently deceased, have suddenly changed their tune.

 The timing is because he's in the news as a current event.  The media would not have bothered to report on it before.



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The timing is suspect, timed to get the most attention for her cause.

I never said I agreed or disagreed with her cause, all I am saying is that I disagree with, and find her timing rather self serving and shameful in that Ali has only very recently passed.


What I do find hypocritical is that the very same posters who condemn people for speaking ill of the recently deceased, have suddenly changed their tune.

 The timing is because he's in the news as a current event.  The media would not have bothered to report on it before.

 Exactly my point. Taking advantage of his recent passing.



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The timing is suspect, timed to get the most attention for her cause.

I never said I agreed or disagreed with her cause, all I am saying is that I disagree with, and find her timing rather self serving and shameful in that Ali has only very recently passed.


What I do find hypocritical is that the very same posters who condemn people for speaking ill of the recently deceased, have suddenly changed their tune.

 The timing is because he's in the news as a current event.  The media would not have bothered to report on it before.

 Exactly my point. Taking advantage of his recent passing.

 Her statements were in RESPONSE to - 

After the recent death of famous champion heavyweight boxer Muhammad Ali, liberals, blacks, and even conservatives have flooded social media with praise for the sports legend. 

 

 



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She did not call him names or slander him. She raised a valid question.

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The timing is suspect, timed to get the most attention for her cause.

I never said I agreed or disagreed with her cause, all I am saying is that I disagree with, and find her timing rather self serving and shameful in that Ali has only very recently passed.


What I do find hypocritical is that the very same posters who condemn people for speaking ill of the recently deceased, have suddenly changed their tune.

 The timing is because he's in the news as a current event.  The media would not have bothered to report on it before.

 Exactly my point. Taking advantage of his recent passing.

 Her statements were in RESPONSE to - 

After the recent death of famous champion heavyweight boxer Muhammad Ali, liberals, blacks, and even conservatives have flooded social media with praise for the sports legend. 

 

 

 OH I know that. It happens when a legend passes. 

This woman also knows that and took direct aim at him to use his fame to further her point.

As I have already said, I am not saying her point is right or wrong. 



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Why not confront him when he is alive? So he can actually RESPOND?

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Mary Zombie wrote:

She did not call him names or slander him. She raised a valid question.

 Exactly.  As a ex-Muslim, she is pointing out issues with Islam, and does not understand why anyone would worship someone who embraced and promoted such a violent and unjust religion and culture.  

And now is the best time, b/c otherwise - the liberal media wouldn't pay any attention.



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Why not confront him when he is alive? So he can actually RESPOND?

flan

 Right?  confuse

 

Because when marketing your agenda, timing is everything. Think of all the free press she got by tying it in with his passing. Its a calculated move.



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Do you two always get butt hurt for people that have nothing to do with you?

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apple wrote:
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Why not confront him when he is alive? So he can actually RESPOND?

flan

 Right?  confuse

 

Because when marketing your agenda, timing is everything. Think of all the free press she got by tying it in with his passing. Its a calculated move.

 A common move among liberals and conservatives. You just don't like it when the timing is not in your favor.



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flan327 wrote:

Why not confront him when he is alive? So he can actually RESPOND?

flan

Really?  You think he would give a rats ass about talking to her?  Maybe she DID try to reach him. 



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Why not confront him when he is alive? So he can actually RESPOND?

flan

Really?  You think he would give a rats ass about talking to her?  Maybe she DID try to reach him. 

 You think she might have mentioned that...you know, to further tarnish his image.

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Why not confront him when he is alive? So he can actually RESPOND?

flan

 Right?  confuse

 

Because when marketing your agenda, timing is everything. Think of all the free press she got by tying it in with his passing. Its a calculated move.

 A common move among liberals and conservatives. You just don't like it when the timing is not in your favor.

 I don't have a dog in this fight...

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Why not confront him when he is alive? So he can actually RESPOND?

flan

 Right?  confuse

 

Because when marketing your agenda, timing is everything. Think of all the free press she got by tying it in with his passing. Its a calculated move.

 A common move among liberals and conservatives. You just don't like it when the timing is not in your favor.

 I don't have a dog in this fight...

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 It doesn't even make sense and is not at all on topic. confuse



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Do you two always get butt hurt for people that have nothing to do with you?

 Do you always ask silly questions?

Who says I am butt hurt? I didn't like the timing, she is a bit of an opportunist... Its my opinion, do you always get butthurt when peoples opinions don't align with yours?



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I'm not the one worrying about people who have nothing to do with me getting their feelings hurt. Whether it's Ali or refugees it's all the same for you.

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I'm not the one worrying about people who have nothing to do with me getting their feelings hurt. Whether it's Ali or refugees it's all the same for you.

 Yes, how horrible I am. You win, I am an awful person who tries to look at things objectively and deal with actual facts rather than biased rhetoric. I am guilty of having a kind heart and being compassionate.

I voiced my opinion, you voiced yours. Why are you so upset/butthurt that my opinion does not align with yours?



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I'm not the one worrying about people who have nothing to do with me getting their feelings hurt. Whether it's Ali or refugees it's all the same for you.

 Yes, how horrible I am. You win, I am an awful person who tries to look at things objectively and deal with actual facts rather than biased rhetoric. I am guilty of having a kind heart and being compassionate.

I voiced my opinion, you voiced yours. Why are you so upset/butthurt that my opinion does not align with yours?

 Don't hold your breath waiting for an answer.

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The press and media is all a game of Timing and opportunity. It's the nature of the beast.
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The press and media is all a game of Timing and opportunity. It's the nature of the beast.
Kind of like water is wet?

 True that, more so than ever I suppose.

 



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Is it true?

About the slavery?

 Yes it is true.  Why the US is the only country being flamed for slavery is beyond me.  It was the state of the world for many years.  The dominant tribes is Africa would sell captured tribes as slaves.  And yes that means black men selling black men.

 I know it's true.

I was asking Apple because she seems unable to address the issues.

 You always fall back on that tired accusation.

flan

 Don't worry, sweetie, I'm not asking you a question. 



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Is it true?

About the slavery?

 Yes it is true.  Why the US is the only country being flamed for slavery is beyond me.  It was the state of the world for many years.  The dominant tribes is Africa would sell captured tribes as slaves.  And yes that means black men selling black men.

 I know it's true.

I was asking Apple because she seems unable to address the issues.

 You always fall back on that tired accusation.

flan

 Don't worry, sweetie, I'm not asking you a question. 

 this being the issue?  

 

African Woman Destroys Black/Liberal Praise Of Muhammad Ali 



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I'm not the one worrying about people who have nothing to do with me getting their feelings hurt. Whether it's Ali or refugees it's all the same for you.

 Yes, how horrible I am. You win, I am an awful person who tries to look at things objectively and deal with actual facts rather than biased rhetoric. I am guilty of having a kind heart and being compassionate.

I voiced my opinion, you voiced yours. Why are you so upset/butthurt that my opinion does not align with yours?

 You keep acting like your OPINION is a fact. You also think you're the only person with a kind heart. The way you perceive my posts is a lot like I perceive yours.

And yes flannie I answered another question. Just because you won't you think no one else will either.

 



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I see a whole lot of blah, blah, blah.

How about we discuss the fact that Islam STILL has black slaves and no one seems to care.

That's the issue.

Not the timing.



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lilyofcourse wrote:

Is it true?

About the slavery?

 Yes it is true.  Why the US is the only country being flamed for slavery is beyond me.  It was the state of the world for many years.  The dominant tribes is Africa would sell captured tribes as slaves.  And yes that means black men selling black men.

 I know it's true.

I was asking Apple because she seems unable to address the issues.

 You always fall back on that tired accusation.

flan

 Don't worry, sweetie, I'm not asking you a question. 

 this being the issue?  

 

African Woman Destroys Black/Liberal Praise Of Muhammad Ali 

 No. Because it doesn't destroy anything.

It's the truth.

Facts.

 



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lilyofcourse wrote:
apple wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

Is it true?

About the slavery?

 Yes it is true.  Why the US is the only country being flamed for slavery is beyond me.  It was the state of the world for many years.  The dominant tribes is Africa would sell captured tribes as slaves.  And yes that means black men selling black men.

 I know it's true.

I was asking Apple because she seems unable to address the issues.

 You always fall back on that tired accusation.

flan

 Don't worry, sweetie, I'm not asking you a question. 

 this being the issue?  

 

African Woman Destroys Black/Liberal Praise Of Muhammad Ali 

 No. Because it doesn't destroy anything.

It's the truth.

Facts.

 

 Its the title of the article and this thread Lily. 



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Look.

I loved watching Ali box. He was a great showman.

He is a legend in the ring.

But his beliefs and the group he was a part of, that he chose to be a part of, are animals. And they treat anyone they deem less than them as less than property.

That is the issue.

How many times will the truth of Islam be glossed over?

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I didn't read the article because the print is so tiny. But I have always wondered why anyone would convert to Islam. Being born into it is one thing but I have never understood what the allure is.

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apple wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
apple wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

Is it true?

About the slavery?

 Yes it is true.  Why the US is the only country being flamed for slavery is beyond me.  It was the state of the world for many years.  The dominant tribes is Africa would sell captured tribes as slaves.  And yes that means black men selling black men.

 I know it's true.

I was asking Apple because she seems unable to address the issues.

 You always fall back on that tired accusation.

flan

 Don't worry, sweetie, I'm not asking you a question. 

 this being the issue?  

 

African Woman Destroys Black/Liberal Praise Of Muhammad Ali 

 No. Because it doesn't destroy anything.

It's the truth.

Facts.

 

 Its the title of the article and this thread Lily. 

 Yes. I know. It got your attention. 

But the issue is in the content of the article.

Did you read it? Can you come up with an excuse for his chosen to become part of a group of people who still, to this day, has slaves?



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lilyofcourse wrote:
apple wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
apple wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

Is it true?

About the slavery?

 Yes it is true.  Why the US is the only country being flamed for slavery is beyond me.  It was the state of the world for many years.  The dominant tribes is Africa would sell captured tribes as slaves.  And yes that means black men selling black men.

 I know it's true.

I was asking Apple because she seems unable to address the issues.

 You always fall back on that tired accusation.

flan

 Don't worry, sweetie, I'm not asking you a question. 

 this being the issue?  

 

African Woman Destroys Black/Liberal Praise Of Muhammad Ali 

 No. Because it doesn't destroy anything.

It's the truth.

Facts.

 

 Its the title of the article and this thread Lily. 

 Yes. I know. It got your attention. 

But the issue is in the content of the article.

Did you read it? Can you come up with an excuse for his chosen to become part of a group of people who still, to this day, has slaves?

 Why did Muhammad Ali become Muslim? Why don't you ask him. Oh he is dead, I suppose that means he cannot defend his choice.

 



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