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I will never understand the fear some people have when it comes to guns.


 Fear is why people buy guns. I guess we are a fearless bunch. :)


 That's absurd.  I didn't buy a gun because I am "afraid" or fearful.  I bought a gun because i simply believe i have the right to protect myself and my family if the occasion arose which i hope never does.   I don't live in fear.



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I will never understand the fear some people have when it comes to guns.


 Fear is why people buy guns. I guess we are a fearless bunch. :)


 That's absurd.  I didn't buy a gun because I am "afraid" or fearful.  I bought a gun because i simply believe i have the right to protect myself and my family if the occasion arose which i hope never does.   I don't live in fear.


 Neither do I. But I'm prepared should someone threaten me. Hell, I dont even lock my car doors. I'm not the least bit afraid...



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I will never understand the fear some people have when it comes to guns.


 Fear is why people buy guns. I guess we are a fearless bunch. :)


 That is simply an idiotic statement.  That is NOT why I own guns.  



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Apple's comment shows a complete lack of understanding on the issue, in my opinion.

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Apple's comment shows a complete lack of understanding on the issue, in my opinion.


 It is precisely how many other nations see America...as some kind of a "Wild West" sideshow.

You (general you) don't see it because you can't step back & be impartial.

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Ohfour wrote:
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I will never understand the fear some people have when it comes to guns.


 Fear is why people buy guns. I guess we are a fearless bunch. :)


 That's absurd.  I didn't buy a gun because I am "afraid" or fearful.  I bought a gun because i simply believe i have the right to protect myself and my family if the occasion arose which i hope never does.   I don't live in fear.


 Neither do I. But I'm prepared should someone threaten me. Hell, I dont even lock my car doors. I'm not the least bit afraid...


 None of you are making any sense. You're NOT afraid, yet you have a gun for "protection."

And what happens when someone steals your car with its unlocked doors?

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Apple's comment shows a complete lack of understanding on the issue, in my opinion.


 It is precisely how many other nations see America...as some kind of a "Wild West" sideshow.

You (general you) don't see it because you can't step back & be impartial.

flan


 And how many other nations revere us as the most powerful country in the world?

There is a reason for that. Even if people like you dont appreciate it. 

They all lurve taking our money and support. 

 



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flan327 wrote:
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apple wrote:
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I will never understand the fear some people have when it comes to guns.


 Fear is why people buy guns. I guess we are a fearless bunch. :)


 That's absurd.  I didn't buy a gun because I am "afraid" or fearful.  I bought a gun because i simply believe i have the right to protect myself and my family if the occasion arose which i hope never does.   I don't live in fear.


 Neither do I. But I'm prepared should someone threaten me. Hell, I dont even lock my car doors. I'm not the least bit afraid...


 None of you are making any sense. You're NOT afraid, yet you have a gun for "protection."

And what happens when someone steals your car with its unlocked doors?

flan


 I have an NRA sticker on my car. They wont fvck with me. 



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Ooooh, I'm sure that sticker will do it...

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Ooooh, I'm sure that sticker will do it...

flan


 Never had my car or my house broken into. But then again, I dont live in the ghetto. 



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flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
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apple wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

I will never understand the fear some people have when it comes to guns.


 Fear is why people buy guns. I guess we are a fearless bunch. :)


 That's absurd.  I didn't buy a gun because I am "afraid" or fearful.  I bought a gun because i simply believe i have the right to protect myself and my family if the occasion arose which i hope never does.   I don't live in fear.


 Neither do I. But I'm prepared should someone threaten me. Hell, I dont even lock my car doors. I'm not the least bit afraid...


 None of you are making any sense. You're NOT afraid, yet you have a gun for "protection."

And what happens when someone steals your car with its unlocked doors?

flan


 It's not "fear".  It's just commonsense.  Do you lock your door at night?  Why ?  Does that mean you live in 'fear"?  Are you living in fear if you lock your car?  Are you living in fear if you go to the doctor to get a physical?  You seem to have some need to believe that people who own guns are cowering in fear and nothing could be further from the truth.



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Ohfour wrote:
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Ooooh, I'm sure that sticker will do it...

flan


 Never had my car or my house broken into. But then again, I dont live in the ghetto. 


 Because you have more money than I do.

Crime is everywhere. Stay in your fantasy world, thinking you're safe.

Are you happy now?

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flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
apple wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

I will never understand the fear some people have when it comes to guns.


 Fear is why people buy guns. I guess we are a fearless bunch. :)


 That's absurd.  I didn't buy a gun because I am "afraid" or fearful.  I bought a gun because i simply believe i have the right to protect myself and my family if the occasion arose which i hope never does.   I don't live in fear.


 Neither do I. But I'm prepared should someone threaten me. Hell, I dont even lock my car doors. I'm not the least bit afraid...


 None of you are making any sense. You're NOT afraid, yet you have a gun for "protection."

And what happens when someone steals your car with its unlocked doors?

flan


 Why should I be afraid?  I don't live in fear, but bad things DO happen - all you have to do is read the news.  I prefer to be prepared. 



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Apple's comment shows a complete lack of understanding on the issue, in my opinion.


 It is precisely how many other nations see America...as some kind of a "Wild West" sideshow.

You (general you) don't see it because you can't step back & be impartial.

flan


 LOL.  Let them think that, I don't care. 



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
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apple wrote:
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I will never understand the fear some people have when it comes to guns.


 Fear is why people buy guns. I guess we are a fearless bunch. :)


 That's absurd.  I didn't buy a gun because I am "afraid" or fearful.  I bought a gun because i simply believe i have the right to protect myself and my family if the occasion arose which i hope never does.   I don't live in fear.


 Neither do I. But I'm prepared should someone threaten me. Hell, I dont even lock my car doors. I'm not the least bit afraid...


 None of you are making any sense. You're NOT afraid, yet you have a gun for "protection."

And what happens when someone steals your car with its unlocked doors?

flan


 It's not "fear".  It's just commonsense.  Do you lock your door at night?  Why ?  Does that mean you live in 'fear"?  Are you living in fear if you lock your car?  Are you living in fear if you go to the doctor to get a physical?  You seem to have some need to believe that people who own guns are cowering in fear and nothing could be further from the truth.


 Thanks for the explanation.

The difference is that I would never pick up a gun & deliberately shoot someone, so that is where the analogy breaks down (for me).

flan



-- Edited by flan327 on Thursday 9th of June 2016 09:18:23 PM

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flan327 wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
apple wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

I will never understand the fear some people have when it comes to guns.


 Fear is why people buy guns. I guess we are a fearless bunch. :)


 That's absurd.  I didn't buy a gun because I am "afraid" or fearful.  I bought a gun because i simply believe i have the right to protect myself and my family if the occasion arose which i hope never does.   I don't live in fear.


 Neither do I. But I'm prepared should someone threaten me. Hell, I dont even lock my car doors. I'm not the least bit afraid...


 None of you are making any sense. You're NOT afraid, yet you have a gun for "protection."

And what happens when someone steals your car with its unlocked doors?

flan


 It's not "fear".  It's just commonsense.  Do you lock your door at night?  Why ?  Does that mean you live in 'fear"?  Are you living in fear if you lock your car?  Are you living in fear if you go to the doctor to get a physical?  You seem to have some need to believe that people who own guns are cowering in fear and nothing could be further from the truth.


 Thanks for the explanation.

The difference is that I would never pick up a gun & deliberately shoot someone, so that is where the analogy breaks down (for me).

flan



-- Edited by flan327 on Thursday 9th of June 2016 09:18:23 PM


 Really?  You'd just let someone come in your home and hurt your family without trying to defend them?  I'd shoot them in a nanosecond.



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Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
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Ohfour wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
apple wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

I will never understand the fear some people have when it comes to guns.


 Fear is why people buy guns. I guess we are a fearless bunch. :)


 That's absurd.  I didn't buy a gun because I am "afraid" or fearful.  I bought a gun because i simply believe i have the right to protect myself and my family if the occasion arose which i hope never does.   I don't live in fear.


 Neither do I. But I'm prepared should someone threaten me. Hell, I dont even lock my car doors. I'm not the least bit afraid...


 None of you are making any sense. You're NOT afraid, yet you have a gun for "protection."

And what happens when someone steals your car with its unlocked doors?

flan


 It's not "fear".  It's just commonsense.  Do you lock your door at night?  Why ?  Does that mean you live in 'fear"?  Are you living in fear if you lock your car?  Are you living in fear if you go to the doctor to get a physical?  You seem to have some need to believe that people who own guns are cowering in fear and nothing could be further from the truth.


 Thanks for the explanation.

The difference is that I would never pick up a gun & deliberately shoot someone, so that is where the analogy breaks down (for me).

flan



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 Really?  You'd just let someone come in your home and hurt your family without trying to defend them?  I'd shoot them in a nanosecond.


 But thats not PC!  Criminals have rights, don't you know !!!!



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Wrong again...

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Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
apple wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

I will never understand the fear some people have when it comes to guns.


 Fear is why people buy guns. I guess we are a fearless bunch. :)


 That's absurd.  I didn't buy a gun because I am "afraid" or fearful.  I bought a gun because i simply believe i have the right to protect myself and my family if the occasion arose which i hope never does.   I don't live in fear.


 Neither do I. But I'm prepared should someone threaten me. Hell, I dont even lock my car doors. I'm not the least bit afraid...


 None of you are making any sense. You're NOT afraid, yet you have a gun for "protection."

And what happens when someone steals your car with its unlocked doors?

flan


 It's not "fear".  It's just commonsense.  Do you lock your door at night?  Why ?  Does that mean you live in 'fear"?  Are you living in fear if you lock your car?  Are you living in fear if you go to the doctor to get a physical?  You seem to have some need to believe that people who own guns are cowering in fear and nothing could be further from the truth.


 Thanks for the explanation.

The difference is that I would never pick up a gun & deliberately shoot someone, so that is where the analogy breaks down (for me).

flan



-- Edited by flan327 on Thursday 9th of June 2016 09:18:23 PM


 Really?  You'd just let someone come in your home and hurt your family without trying to defend them?  I'd shoot them in a nanosecond.


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Oh, husker, give it a rest.

I'm not buying a gun.

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Oh, husker, give it a rest.

I'm not buying a gun.

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 That wasn't the question.  



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Of course it was.

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Shes close to Chicago. Of course she supports gun control. No matter how many kids die.

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Of course it was.

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 It absolutely was not.  The question was whether or not you would let someone come into your home and hurt your family without trying to defend them.  Nowhere in that question did the words "do you want to buy a gun" appear.  



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I will never understand the fear some people have when it comes to guns.


 Fear is why people buy guns. I guess we are a fearless bunch. :)


 Never felt afraid in my life.

I've always been around guns. 

They don't scare me.

 



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Protection from what? There is nothing wrong with saying you are afraid of something.

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Protection from what? There is nothing wrong with saying you are afraid of something.


 Do you use sunscreen?  Take vitamins?

Do you make sure your car is running properly? That there is a fire extinguisher in the house?

Do you take regular precautions? 

It isn't that you fear anything happening.

But you are prepared if it does.

 



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Protection from what? There is nothing wrong with saying you are afraid of something.


 Do you use sunscreen?  Take vitamins?

Do you make sure your car is running properly? That there is a fire extinguisher in the house?

Do you take regular precautions? 

It isn't that you fear anything happening.

But you are prepared if it does.

 


 Yes but why can't you answer a simple question?



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Protection from what? There is nothing wrong with saying you are afraid of something.


 Do you use sunscreen?  Take vitamins?

Do you make sure your car is running properly? That there is a fire extinguisher in the house?

Do you take regular precautions? 

It isn't that you fear anything happening.

But you are prepared if it does.

 


 Yes but why can't you answer a simple question?


 From whatever.

I live in an active coyote area. You can hear them in the woods across from my house celebrating kills and talking.

There are bears spotted rather frequently around here, too. Not that a 9mm will stop a bear, but it might buy me time to get in the house.

I live across from a park. People out there at all hours of the night. Why would anyone be walking paths through the woods at 3 in the morning? 

And houses on two sides of me have been broken into.

When I was working, there were lots of nights I would leave work with several thousand dollars for a bank drop.

There are all kinds of reasons to carry.

And none of it is fear.

It's being prepared. 



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Shes close to Chicago. Of course she supports gun control. No matter how many kids die.


 Is that Jack talking?

I also live close to Kentucky and I do NOT think people should be allowed to smoke in public places.

Kids are dying NOW because of gangs. I wish that I could solve the problem, but I can't. Neither can you.

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Protection from what? There is nothing wrong with saying you are afraid of something.


 Do you use sunscreen?  Take vitamins?

Do you make sure your car is running properly? That there is a fire extinguisher in the house?

Do you take regular precautions? 

It isn't that you fear anything happening.

But you are prepared if it does.

 


 Here we go again.

ALL those things affect ME, and only me. Shooting another human being...the very idea is just anathema to me.

And yes, I'm sure a few of you good Christians would love for something to happen, just so you could prove your point.

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Protection from what? There is nothing wrong with saying you are afraid of something.


 Do you use sunscreen?  Take vitamins?

Do you make sure your car is running properly? That there is a fire extinguisher in the house?

Do you take regular precautions? 

It isn't that you fear anything happening.

But you are prepared if it does.

 


 Here we go again.

ALL those things affect ME, and only me. Shooting another human being...the very idea is just anathema to me.

And yes, I'm sure a few of you good Christians would love for something to happen, just so you could prove your point.

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Protection from what? There is nothing wrong with saying you are afraid of something.


 Do you use sunscreen?  Take vitamins?

Do you make sure your car is running properly? That there is a fire extinguisher in the house?

Do you take regular precautions? 

It isn't that you fear anything happening.

But you are prepared if it does.

 


 Here we go again.

ALL those things affect ME, and only me. Shooting another human being...the very idea is just anathema to me.

And yes, I'm sure a few of you good Christians would love for something to happen, just so you could prove your point.

flan


 Yeah, and if someone breaks into my house at 3 am to rob me, that affects ME.  If someone tries to carjack me, that affects ME.  If i am walking in the woods and a snake or bear would try to attack me, that affects ME.  

 

Oh, and here we go with the Christian Card again AD NAUSEUM.



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
flan327 wrote:
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Protection from what? There is nothing wrong with saying you are afraid of something.


 Do you use sunscreen?  Take vitamins?

Do you make sure your car is running properly? That there is a fire extinguisher in the house?

Do you take regular precautions? 

It isn't that you fear anything happening.

But you are prepared if it does.

 


 Here we go again.

ALL those things affect ME, and only me. Shooting another human being...the very idea is just anathema to me.

And yes, I'm sure a few of you good Christians would love for something to happen, just so you could prove your point.

flan


 Yeah, and if someone breaks into my house at 3 am to rob me, that affects ME.  If someone tries to carjack me, that affects ME.  If i am walking in the woods and a snake or bear would try to attack me, that affects ME.  

 

Oh, and here we go with the Christian Card again AD NAUSEUM.


 Poor baby!

I'm too tired to argue in circles this morning.

In each scenario you posted, YOU are not the ONLY one affected.

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Huh? So you mean the person trying to assault or kill me, i am supposed to be concerned about their "Rights"? Oh, ok. And, you seem to dig at Christians nonstop here.

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Oh, btw, i have liberal friends that carry guns.

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Oh, btw, i have liberal friends that carry guns.


 I'm sure you do. It's a PERSONAL decision, not a Liberal one.

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Huh? So you mean the person trying to assault or kill me, i am supposed to be concerned about their "Rights"? Oh, ok. And, you seem to dig at Christians nonstop here.


 Where did I say that? I didn't.

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Oh, btw, i have liberal friends that carry guns.


 I'm sure you do. It's a PERSONAL decision, not a Liberal one.

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
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Oh, btw, i have liberal friends that carry guns.


 I'm sure you do. It's a PERSONAL decision, not a Liberal one.

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Yes, a decision you wish to take away from people.  Oh, thats' not happening!  Except, yes it is.


 Whatever...

You keep saying that. I'm not sure who you are trying to convince.

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Huh? So you mean the person trying to assault or kill me, i am supposed to be concerned about their "Rights"? Oh, ok. And, you seem to dig at Christians nonstop here.


 Where did I say that? I didn't.

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 You said my scenarios didn't only affect me.  So, who else do they affect then?  



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flan, why should anyone care about the rights of someone attacking them or their loved ones?

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flan, why should anyone care about the rights of someone attacking them or their loved ones?


 Sweet Jesus, I DON'T.

I just do not think that I would be capable of shooting another human being.

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flan, why should anyone care about the rights of someone attacking them or their loved ones?


 Sweet Jesus, I DON'T.

I just do not think that I would be capable of shooting another human being.

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 And why should your inability affect other people?



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hmmm...

Americans carrying guns concealed or otherwise, its up to them.
Saying that it isn't the norm here (Canada), is not attacking Americans, its just saying that we do things differently.

I know that the Americans I know who have guns, some have them beside them as they sleep even, admit it is because they fear harm to themselves or their loved ones. Fear is the reason people buy guns, to protect themselves.
Why do some of you find that offensive to say or admit? I don't get that part.....

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flan, why should anyone care about the rights of someone attacking them or their loved ones?


 Sweet Jesus, I DON'T.

I just do not think that I would be capable of shooting another human being.

flan


 And why should your inability affect other people?


 Where did I say that it DID?

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flan327 wrote:
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flan, why should anyone care about the rights of someone attacking them or their loved ones?


 Sweet Jesus, I DON'T.

I just do not think that I would be capable of shooting another human being.

flan


 And why should your inability affect other people?


 Where did I say that it DID?

flan


 flan, all of your comments show you are clearly in favor of more gun control.  Just because you don't want a gun and don't think you could use one doesn't mean the rest of us shouldn't be able to have one. 



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flan327 wrote:
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flan, why should anyone care about the rights of someone attacking them or their loved ones?


 Sweet Jesus, I DON'T.

I just do not think that I would be capable of shooting another human being.

flan


 And why should your inability affect other people?


 Where did I say that it DID?

flan


 flan, all of your comments show you are clearly in favor of more gun control.  Just because you don't want a gun and don't think you could use one doesn't mean the rest of us shouldn't be able to have one. 


 Am I talking to a ROCK?

BUY GUNS. BUY ALL THE GUNS YOU WANT.

Feel better?

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hmmm...

Americans carrying guns concealed or otherwise, its up to them.
Saying that it isn't the norm here (Canada), is not attacking Americans, its just saying that we do things differently.

I know that the Americans I know who have guns, some have them beside them as they sleep even, admit it is because they fear harm to themselves or their loved ones. Fear is the reason people buy guns, to protect themselves.
Why do some of you find that offensive to say or admit? I don't get that part.....


 Why do you continually assume to know what other people feel?  

 

And Cananda's laws have nothing to do with America - so you bringing up Canada all the time is irrelevant.  It's like you are fishing so you can accuse people of bashing Canada when we don't agree with how Canada does things.  



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