TOTALLY GEEKED!

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Guess which country has the most mass shootings in the world?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
apple wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
I can shoot a gun and hit the center mass of the target.

You want gun laws? How about enforcing the ones we already have, first?
I can shoot, I've done my share of trap shooting and hunting. I am however not so MACHO as to say I would be the hero in an active shooter situation with a lot of people involved.
I think perhaps many people think its easy but it takes training and in all honesty, most people couldn't do it. Hitting a paper target or a beer can does not mean you have what it takes to act safely and accurately in an active mass shooting event.

So you would just beg for your life....great strategy. At least I have a chance...

Yes, and there were reports of people doing just that and he laughed and shot them anyway. Oh, and you would think that if there are bullets flying around your neighborhood, then maybe there are some criminals around with guns. Even MORE reason to arm yourself if you live where flan does.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

flan327 wrote:
Lily said: But stop supporting and promoting movements to restrict and or remove others 2nd amendment right.

Nope.

Do you understand the difference between "restrict" and "remove?"

flan

Have you had a stroke or something?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Oooooh!

This could be fun. Is it MY turn to "diagnose" you, Lily Dearest?

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Go ahead.

You're the one that can't read a post.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

No thanks, I'd get banned.

flan

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Scotland has the highest rate of stabbing deaths in the world. They too have banned guns.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Everyday, someone in Europe is either hung, beheaded, or other means killed by a terrorist. Europe has banned guns.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Which is fine until islamic immigrants hit their shores. Which they will soon be on to Scotland which is just a short drive from England.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I've posted twice now, a chart showing that America is not the leader in mass murders.

It's been ignored twice.

Truth is apparently very hard for some to grasp.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

lilyofcourse wrote:
I've posted twice now, a chart showing that America is not the leader in mass murders.

It's been ignored twice.

Truth is apparently very hard for some to grasp.

And others have posted articles that say it IS the United States.

Truth is apparently very hard for some to grasp.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Scotland has the highest rate of stabbing deaths in the world. They too have banned guns.

'If more guns made us safer, the U.S. would be the safest nation in the world.'

You are not; you are 10 to 15 times more likely to be shot dead in the U.S.A. per capita than Australia. And by the way, you are even safer in Italy than the U.S.A. with regard to guns, when looked at like-for-like on a per capita basis.

--Tim Fischer, former deputy prime minister of Australia

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

The chances of being murdered by a gun in Australia plunged to 0.15 per 100,000 people in 2014 from 0.54 per 100,000 people in 1996, a decline of 72 percent, a Reuters analysis of Australian Bureau of Statistics figures showed.

In 1996, Australia had 311 murders, of which 98 were with guns. In 2014, with the population up from about 18 million to 23 million, Australia had 238 murders, of which 35 were with guns.

It was the April 28, 1996, shooting deaths by a lone gunman of 35 people in and around a cafe at a historic former prison colony in Tasmania that prompted the government to buy back or confiscate a million firearms and make it harder to buy new ones.

The country has had no mass shootings since.

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
I've posted twice now, a chart showing that America is not the leader in mass murders.

It's been ignored twice.

Truth is apparently very hard for some to grasp.
And others have posted articles that say it IS the United States.
Truth is apparently very hard for some to grasp.
flan

And one is not true.

I like facts.

Not possible, maybe, if only facts.

burns07 · Guru

In 1996, Australia had 311 murders, of which 98 were with guns. In 2014, with the population up from about 18 million to 23 million, Australia had 238 murders, of which 35 were with guns.
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again, you can't see the forest for the trees

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

flan327 wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Scotland has the highest rate of stabbing deaths in the world. They too have banned guns.
'If more guns made us safer, the U.S. would be the safest nation in the world.'
You are not; you are 10 to 15 times more likely to be shot dead in the U.S.A. per capita than Australia. And by the way, you are even safer in Italy than the U.S.A. with regard to guns, when looked at like-for-like on a per capita basis.
--Tim Fischer, former deputy prime minister of Australia

In your neighborhood.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Oh my Gawd. This is hilarious...Or it would be if English wasn't your first language.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

burns07 wrote:

In 1996, Australia had 311 murders, of which 98 were with guns. In 2014, with the population up from about 18 million to 23 million, Australia had 238 murders, of which 35 were with guns.
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again, you can't see the forest for the trees

I'll get back to you when I need a used car.

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Ok. You really need to see someone.

I swear you are showing signs of stroke.

burns07 · Guru

it's different in the moment--but exactly right that without a weapon, your chances of survival decrease profoundly and in some cases to zero

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

It's just like shooting fish in a barrel sometimes.

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

flan327 wrote:
It's just like shooting fish in a barrel sometimes.

flan

How would know? You won't have a gun, remember?

Take an asprin, lay down.

burns07 · Guru

you obviously don't know a great deal about australia ( among other things )--you single-out murders BY FIREARM only, without considering the commensurate increases in OTHER violent crimes ( particularly since the weapons ban ) such as armed robbery, aggravated assaults, etc. committed by ARMED assailants--all this pick and choose nonsense of yours is beyond tiresome

burns07 · Guru

I do think i would fight to save my family, that is for sure. Or maybe i would freeze in terror.
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an honest answer LGS but personally believe you'd do just fine

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

burns07 wrote:

you obviously don't know a great deal about australia ( among other things )--you single-out murders BY FIREARM only, without considering the commensurate increases in OTHER violent crimes ( particularly since the weapons ban ) such as armed robbery, aggravated assaults, etc. committed by ARMED assailants--all this pick and choose nonsense of yours is beyond tiresome

Yes, sir, yours is as well.

flan

burns07 · Guru

am thinking lily may be right--maybe it's medical with you

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

burns07 wrote:

am thinking lily may be right--maybe it's medical with you

Nope...just a low tolerance for idiotic statements.

And I'm sick of the faux concern.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
The chances of being murdered by a gun in Australia plunged to 0.15 per 100,000 people in 2014 from 0.54 per 100,000 people in 1996, a decline of 72 percent, a Reuters analysis of Australian Bureau of Statistics figures showed.

In 1996, Australia had 311 murders, of which 98 were with guns. In 2014, with the population up from about 18 million to 23 million, Australia had 238 murders, of which 35 were with guns.

It was the April 28, 1996, shooting deaths by a lone gunman of 35 people in and around a cafe at a historic former prison colony in Tasmania that prompted the government to buy back or confiscate a million firearms and make it harder to buy new ones.

The country has had no mass shootings since.

flan

That is absolutely not true.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
The chances of being murdered by a gun in Australia plunged to 0.15 per 100,000 people in 2014 from 0.54 per 100,000 people in 1996, a decline of 72 percent, a Reuters analysis of Australian Bureau of Statistics figures showed.

In 1996, Australia had 311 murders, of which 98 were with guns. In 2014, with the population up from about 18 million to 23 million, Australia had 238 murders, of which 35 were with guns.

It was the April 28, 1996, shooting deaths by a lone gunman of 35 people in and around a cafe at a historic former prison colony in Tasmania that prompted the government to buy back or confiscate a million firearms and make it harder to buy new ones.

The country has had no mass shootings since.

flan
That is absolutely not true.

I'm not doing the research. You can if you want.

Again, it depends on how "mass shooting" is defined.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
The chances of being murdered by a gun in Australia plunged to 0.15 per 100,000 people in 2014 from 0.54 per 100,000 people in 1996, a decline of 72 percent, a Reuters analysis of Australian Bureau of Statistics figures showed.

In 1996, Australia had 311 murders, of which 98 were with guns. In 2014, with the population up from about 18 million to 23 million, Australia had 238 murders, of which 35 were with guns.

It was the April 28, 1996, shooting deaths by a lone gunman of 35 people in and around a cafe at a historic former prison colony in Tasmania that prompted the government to buy back or confiscate a million firearms and make it harder to buy new ones.

The country has had no mass shootings since.

flan
That is absolutely not true.
I'm not doing the research. You can if you want.
Again, it depends on how "mass shooting" is defined.
flan

Well, according to your definition - there have been 3 in Australia since 2011. And since their population is a fraction of ours, per capita - that's not far off.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

A mass shooting is an incident involving multiple victims of gun violence.[1] The United States' Congressional Research Service acknowledges that there is not a broadly accepted definition,[2] and uses a definition of a "public mass shooting"[3] if four or more people selected indiscriminately, not including the perpetrator, are killed, echoing the FBI definition[4][5] of the term "mass murder". Another unofficial definition of a mass shooting is an event involving the shooting (not necessarily resulting in death) of four or more people with no cooling off period.[6

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_shooting

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

If eliminating guns from law abiding would eliminate murder and gun crime, then i would gladly turn in my guns. But, that is not reality. That is not the Nature of Mankind. Sorry. You have to understand there is a dark side to mankind. The Left wants to pretend not to see it. Or, pretend that by simply redefining problems with words, that it somehow solves a real problem.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
The chances of being murdered by a gun in Australia plunged to 0.15 per 100,000 people in 2014 from 0.54 per 100,000 people in 1996, a decline of 72 percent, a Reuters analysis of Australian Bureau of Statistics figures showed.

In 1996, Australia had 311 murders, of which 98 were with guns. In 2014, with the population up from about 18 million to 23 million, Australia had 238 murders, of which 35 were with guns.

It was the April 28, 1996, shooting deaths by a lone gunman of 35 people in and around a cafe at a historic former prison colony in Tasmania that prompted the government to buy back or confiscate a million firearms and make it harder to buy new ones.

The country has had no mass shootings since.

flan
That is absolutely not true.
I'm not doing the research. You can if you want.
Again, it depends on how "mass shooting" is defined.
flan
Well, according to your definition - there have been 3 in Australia since 2011. And since their population is a fraction of ours, per capita - that's not far off.

It's not "my" definition. It was defined as such by the study I posted.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
If eliminating guns from law abiding would eliminate murder and gun crime, then i would gladly turn in my guns. But, that is not reality. That is not the Nature of Mankind. Sorry. You have to understand there is a dark side to mankind. The Left wants to pretend not to see it. Or, pretend that by simply redefining problems with words, that it somehow solves a real problem.

I disagree.

What other country is as gun-crazy as America?

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

What other countries have the freedoms of America? What other countries have achieved the heights of the American dream? With good comes bad. With freedom comes abuses of freedom.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
What other countries have the freedoms of America? What other countries have achieved the heights of the American dream? With good comes bad. With freedom comes abuses of freedom.

What does owning a gun have to do with that?

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

We wouldn't be a free country without guns now would we? America would have never happened.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Flan, why do you stay in America?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

And, right on time, here comes Lecturing Lily with her "insights."

Every.Single.Person here knows why you asked & what you're going to say. Stop boring everyone.

And, since your countless lectures have done SO much good in the past, why not try again?

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

You seem to hate everything you have in America.

You are absolutely free to leave.

No one will miss you.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

lilyofcourse wrote:
You seem to hate everything you have in America.

You are absolutely free to leave.

No one will miss you.

1. Wrong again.

2. Thanks, I didn't know that.

3. Wanna bet? I don't plan on giving you a list. You know NOTHING about me, because I represent everything you hate. The fact that I am happy & am loved by so many patrons at my amazing job drives you crazy.

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I don't hate you.

I use to feel sorry for you.

But now, I just don't care.

However you do seem to have a real problem with fundamental rights we have in America.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Your words betray your real feelings, Lily Dearest.

I should feel sorry for you, but I don't. I'll save my pity for people who deserve it.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Your words betray your real feelings, Lily Dearest.

I should feel sorry for you, but I don't. I'll save my pity for people who deserve it.

flan

Kind of like when you say repeatedly you don't want to take anyone's guns but argue for gun control on every thread?

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

flan327 wrote:
Your words betray your real feelings, Lily Dearest.

I should feel sorry for you, but I don't. I'll save my pity for people who deserve it.

flan

Aww... look at you repeat what you just read.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

WTF?

Do you know what "repeat" means?

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Your words betray your real feelings, Lily Dearest.

I should feel sorry for you, but I don't. I'll save my pity for people who deserve it.

flan

Kind of like when you say repeatedly you don't want to take anyone's guns but argue for gun control on every thread?

Nope, but keep twisting what I say.

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

flan327 wrote:
WTF?

Do you know what "repeat" means?

flan

Yeah. I do.

You repeated what I said.

Maybe not word for word, but you did repeat it.

What else can you do?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Your words betray your real feelings, Lily Dearest.

I should feel sorry for you, but I don't. I'll save my pity for people who deserve it.

flan

Kind of like when you say repeatedly you don't want to take anyone's guns but argue for gun control on every thread?

Sorry if it's difficult to comprehend the difference between taking away a person's guns and advocating stricter regulations for purchasing guns.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
WTF?

Do you know what "repeat" means?

flan
Yeah. I do.
You repeated what I said.
Maybe not word for word, but you did repeat it.
What else can you do?

confuse One of these things is not like the other...

flan