TOTALLY GEEKED!

Ohfour · Hooker

Too many holes in nation’s security against mass killers

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Pressure cookers

Nails

Fertilizer

PVC pipe

Gas

Let's ban everything that could be used to kill.

EVERY SINGLE TIME, this stupid comment is posted.
flan
Why is it stupid?
It makes perfect sense.

It's perfectly stupid.
flan

How so?

If all the guns are gone, and all those things are used to make bombs, it stand to reason they should be banned as well.

Just following your logic.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

flan327 wrote:
apple wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Apple, you said you have guns.

You want to be the first to get rid of yours?

Why do you have them?

I mean, you might kill someone or yourself.
Do you do this obtuse thing purposely?
Unfortunately, no...
flan

It's a valid question.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Apple.

What do you think should be done about guns?

apple · Guru

I don't have an easy answer Lily.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

apple wrote:
Riiight... guns are not a problem at all....

The mass shooting in Orlando on Sunday was appalling in scale: 49 killed in a single attack. But it’s not unusual for dozens of Americans to be killed by guns in a single day.

Gun homicides are a common cause of death in the United States, killing about as many people as car crashes (not counting van, truck, motorcycle or bus accidents). Some cases command our attention more than others, of course. Counting mass shootings that make headlines and the thousands of Americans murdered one or a few at a time, gunshot homicides totaled 8,124 in 2014, according to the F.B.I.

This level of violence makes the United States an extreme outlier when measured against the experience of other advanced countries.

In the United States, the death rate from gun homicides is about 31 per million people — the equivalent of 27 people shot dead every day of the year. The homicides include losses from mass shootings, like Sunday’s Orlando attack, or the San Bernardino, Calif., shooting last December. And of course, they also include the country’s vastly more common single-victim killings.

More guns, more gun deaths.
Go ahead, keep your blinders on.

On 9/11 - guns weren't used at all and yet that is the biggest attack in American history.

People will find a way to kill. Taking away people's ability to protect themselves won't help, it will just make them sitting ducks. Which is why all these attacks you speak of have been in gun FREE zones.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

apple wrote:
I don't have an easy answer Lily.

Ok.

So maybe the problem isn't a gun.

Ever think the problem is more fundamental?

Perhaps the lack of respect for life is the problem.

chef · Guru

As with pretty much every other time gun control comes up, those advocating for more gun control either refuse to or are unable to come up with a solution for keeping guns out of criminals' hands. If gun control worked, gun free zones would have zero gun-related deaths. But they don't. Why? Because criminals don't care about laws.

Take away guns. Now criminals and law enforcement are the only ones with guns. What do you propose in order to keep the citizenry safe from criminals with guns? Why do you want to make innocent people sitting ducks? Law enforcement cannot be everywhere every second of the day.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. How else do you stop them?

chef · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. How else do you stop them?

Yep.

Your question is exactly what I ask people wanting more gun control. I have yet to get an answer. I did, however, get told "not my problem" yesterday (not on the board) by a gun control advocate.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. How else do you stop them?

It's genius!

Why did no one ever think of this before?

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
The best way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. How else do you stop them?
It's genius!
Why did no one ever think of this before?
flan

How about the other half of my post?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

If I knew the answer, don't you think I would DO something? Say something? Tell the world?

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
If I knew the answer, don't you think I would DO something? Say something? Tell the world?

flan

Then stop with the arguments about taking away innocent people's right to protect themselves.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
If I knew the answer, don't you think I would DO something? Say something? Tell the world?

flan
Then stop with the arguments about taking away innocent people's right to protect themselves.

Depends on the weapon you (general you) think you "need" to protect yourself.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
If I knew the answer, don't you think I would DO something? Say something? Tell the world?

flan
Then stop with the arguments about taking away innocent people's right to protect themselves.
Depends on the weapon you (general you) think you "need" to protect yourself.
flan

No, it doesn't. I have the right to any gun the government has.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
If I knew the answer, don't you think I would DO something? Say something? Tell the world?

flan
Then stop with the arguments about taking away innocent people's right to protect themselves.
Depends on the weapon you (general you) think you "need" to protect yourself.
flan
No, it doesn't. I have the right to any gun the government has.

I disagree.

Where does it stop? Can you legally arm yourself with missiles? Tanks? Nuclear bombs?

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
If I knew the answer, don't you think I would DO something? Say something? Tell the world?

flan
Then stop with the arguments about taking away innocent people's right to protect themselves.
Depends on the weapon you (general you) think you "need" to protect yourself.
flan
No, it doesn't. I have the right to any gun the government has.
I disagree.
Where does it stop? Can you legally arm yourself with missiles? Tanks? Nuclear bombs?
flan

You can disagree all you want, but you would be wrong...

Tinydancer · Guru

Hey if you're a criminal you can get all those things on the black market so tougher gun laws will help with that how?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

What about the laws passed limiting semi-automatic weapons?

(No, I haven't Googled, but I did hear Bill O'Reilly being interviewed by Stephen Colbert. He's one of yours, right? And he agrees with those laws!)

flan

Tinydancer · Guru

And that will stop a criminal how? Do they legally buy their weapons?

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
What about the laws passed limiting semi-automatic weapons?

(No, I haven't Googled, but I did hear Bill O'Reilly being interviewed by Stephen Colbert. He's one of yours, right? And he agrees with those laws!)

flan

See, this is where the libs differ from the Conservatives.

I don't agree with Bill O'Reilly. I think he is wrong and will call him out.

Libs let their talking heads do all the thinking for them...

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

ALL of these are automatic weapons.

Ohfour · Hooker

Several of my hand guns are semi-automatic. Rifles aren't the only guns that are semis.

My PMR 30 holds well, 30 rounds! (It's my favorite gun. It weighs less than a pound, fully loaded.)

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
What about the laws passed limiting semi-automatic weapons?

(No, I haven't Googled, but I did hear Bill O'Reilly being interviewed by Stephen Colbert. He's one of yours, right? And he agrees with those laws!)

flan
See, this is where the libs differ from the Conservatives.
I don't agree with Bill O'Reilly. I think he is wrong and will call him out.
Libs let their talking heads do all the thinking for them...

1. Fair enough.

2. Not THIS Liberal.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
Several of my hand guns are semi-automatic. Rifles aren't the only guns that are semis.

My PMR 30 holds well, 30 rounds! (It's my favorite gun. It weighs less than a pound, fully loaded.)

Yes, I actually know that.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
If I knew the answer, don't you think I would DO something? Say something? Tell the world?

flan
Then stop with the arguments about taking away innocent people's right to protect themselves.
Depends on the weapon you (general you) think you "need" to protect yourself.
flan
No, it doesn't. I have the right to any gun the government has.
I disagree.
Where does it stop? Can you legally arm yourself with missiles? Tanks? Nuclear bombs?
flan

Those are not guns.

ed11563 · Guru

The only solution I can think of is for the Muslim community to blow the whistle on the radicals.