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Southern_Belle · Nothing's Impossible

2 year old dragged into water at Disney hotel

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

How awful!

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I just saw that story!

The resort's response: "We have 'No Swimming' signs posted."

flan

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Well any place I've been in florida have had signs up warning of the alligators. This is just a horrible situation. Not the hotel's fault.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
I just saw that story!

The resort's response: "We have 'No Swimming' signs posted."

flan

Ummm, no. The Sheriff said that -

here are "No Swimming" signs at the lagoon and no one else was in the water at the time of the attack besides the child, Demings said.

This body of water is not for recreational swimming "likely for that very reason," the reason being alligators.

"This is Florida and it's not uncommon for alligators to be in bodies of water," he said.

Declan Salcido, who's on vacation with relatives from San Jose, California, was coming back from the animal kingdom when the first ambulance arrived just after 9:15 p.m. ET.

He said there are many "No Swimming" signs near the lagoon visible "from any vantage point."

The resort's response:

"Everyone here at the Walt Disney Resort is devastated by this tragic accident," said Jacquee Wahler, the vice president of the Walt Disney World Resort .

"Our thoughts are with the family. We are helping the family and doing everything we can to assist law enforcement."

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

In any case, the child is dead. I'm not in the mood to play "Who is right?"

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Also - the boy was walking in the water when it happened.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
In any case, the child is dead. I'm not in the mood to play "Who is right?"

flan

Really - that's why your first response was to make a wrong, snarky comment about the resort's response? You think that helps the situation? You think the people who were there and are seeing this happen, and looking for the boy are not more upset than you?

I can't imagine how horrible it must have been for his parents and everyone on the beach, and how horrible it still is, knowing they are not going to find that child alive. And yet you still have to be nasty about it.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I think you are never ever wrong. And you never miss a chance to lecture me.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
I think you are never ever wrong. And you never miss a chance to lecture me.

flan

It would be helpful if you could stop being nasty about everything - then I wouldn't have anything to lecture you about.

Right now - my thoughts and prayers are with everyone there, mostly the family of that boy. My thoughts are not with a knee jerk reaction of finding someone to blame.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I think you are never ever wrong. And you never miss a chance to lecture me.

flan
It would be helpful if you could stop being nasty about everything - then I wouldn't have anything to lecture you about.

Right now - my thoughts and prayers are with everyone there, mostly the family of that boy. My thoughts are not with a knee jerk reaction of finding someone to blame.

But, in the real world, the owners of the hotel are likely facing a lawsuit as well as loss of revenue.

I cannot imagine what those parents are going through right now.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I think you are never ever wrong. And you never miss a chance to lecture me.

flan
It would be helpful if you could stop being nasty about everything - then I wouldn't have anything to lecture you about.

Right now - my thoughts and prayers are with everyone there, mostly the family of that boy. My thoughts are not with a knee jerk reaction of finding someone to blame.
But, in the real world, the owners of the hotel are likely facing a lawsuit as well as loss of revenue.
I cannot imagine what those parents are going through right now.
flan

Doubtful. It's a lake in Florida, alligators are natural to it. There are no swimming signs all over the place and the kid was playing in the water while his parents were letting him.

That is called contributory negligence. They could sue, but are unlikely to win much, if anything.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I think you are never ever wrong. And you never miss a chance to lecture me.

flan
It would be helpful if you could stop being nasty about everything - then I wouldn't have anything to lecture you about.

Right now - my thoughts and prayers are with everyone there, mostly the family of that boy. My thoughts are not with a knee jerk reaction of finding someone to blame.
But, in the real world, the owners of the hotel are likely facing a lawsuit as well as loss of revenue.
I cannot imagine what those parents are going through right now.
flan
Doubtful. It's a lake in Florida, alligators are natural to it. There are no swimming signs all over the place and the kid was playing in the water while his parents were letting him.
That is called contributory negligence. They could sue, but are unlikely to win much, if anything.

Which is what I said.

confuse

Most kids are naturally drawn to water.

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

flan327 wrote:
In any case, the child is dead. I'm not in the mood to play "Who is right?"

flan

Flan is right. This obviously isn't going to end well. As for wading in a lake, who hasnt' done that? Yeah, it might say "no swimming" but most people don't view wading in a few feet as "swimming". And, if they are from Nebraska they probably didn't appreciate the danger of alligators. It is a horrible tragedy for sure.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
flan327 wrote:
In any case, the child is dead. I'm not in the mood to play "Who is right?"

flan
Flan is right. This obviously isn't going to end well. As for wading in a lake, who hasnt' done that? Yeah, it might say "no swimming" but most people don't view wading in a few feet as "swimming". And, if they are from Nebraska they probably didn't appreciate the danger of alligators. It is a horrible tragedy for sure.

Thank you.

They likely saved & planned for a visit to Disney world...and then the unthinkable happened.

flan

Fort Worth Mom · Mod/Penguin lover/Princess!

Such a terrible way to lose a child.

My heart hurts for his family. cry

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I hope they find the body quickly. At this point, that's the only thing I can offer.

flan

FNW · Guru

It's a tragedy, for sure. But the hotels fault? Nope. It's Florida. There are gators anywhere there is water. But my guess is they will settle before it would go to court, if they were to be sued.

Sad for sure. I just can't imagine the horror the family is going through.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Its too bad this poor baby had to suffer because of his parents' stupidity. What a shame. If the signs say no swimming, yes, that means wading too. And alligators are more likely to come into shallow water around dusk. It was a perfect storm of stupid.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Mellow Momma wrote:
Its too bad this poor baby had to suffer because of his parents' stupidity. What a shame. If the signs say no swimming, yes, that means wading too. And alligators are more likely to come into shallow water around dusk. It was a perfect storm of stupid.

And considering the story that made the news a few weeks ago, about the alligator strolling around the golf course...

flan

Mary Zombie · Guru

Alligators tend to hide near the shallows for opportunities such as this. My heart aches for this baby and his family however all those sandy beach areas are fenced in and it's clear it's not for swimming. It's like a canal and boats are always in there.
I don't know what the parents were thinking. I imagine they're torturing themselves over this. I'm sure they will sue though I don't think it would really be fair.
Poor little boy ☹️

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

And if you want to get in the water at 9:20pm there are so many pools available at Disney. Pick one. But a freshwater lake with "no swimming" signs posted is not the place to wade.

Mary Zombie · Guru

And the waters probably mucky. Ick

Tignanello · My dog name is, Sasha!

Mellow Momma wrote:
And if you want to get in the water at 9:20pm there are so many pools available at Disney. Pick one. But a freshwater lake with "no swimming" signs posted is not the place to wade.

And good gracious! Why were a 2 year old and a 4 year old at the beach at 9pm??!

Lindley · Guru

My heart breaks for this baby boy and his family. I'm sure suing or anything else right now is the last thing on their mind. Praying for this family.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Because they were on vacation.

Lindley · Guru

Tignanello wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
And if you want to get in the water at 9:20pm there are so many pools available at Disney. Pick one. But a freshwater lake with "no swimming" signs posted is not the place to wade.
And good gracious! Why were a 2 year old and a 4 year old at the beach at 9pm??!

I read that they were showing a movie on the beach. Being on vacation sometimes parents allow kids to be up later

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I didnt realize having kids out on the beach at 9pm was such a shocking thing?

FNW · Guru

Tignanello wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
And if you want to get in the water at 9:20pm there are so many pools available at Disney. Pick one. But a freshwater lake with "no swimming" signs posted is not the place to wade.
And good gracious! Why were a 2 year old and a 4 year old at the beach at 9pm??!

There are a lot of outdoor activities for families in the Disney resorts. Movies by the pool, fireworks, etc. We engaged in "night time swimming" with the boys who were usually in bed by 8 PM. It was a real treat for them to be up late, enjoying vacation. I do not judge them for being up, but I do for wading in a lake in FL.

NAOW · Vette's SS

This is so tragic. I can't imagine the agony this family is in. They are going to have to go home without a member of their family..I can't imagine.

Staying up late is kind of a given on vacation for my family.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

One of the reports said it was at the beach area at the resort. And mom ran to get the lifeguard. So it was at a designated beach area with a lifeguard near by. Doesn't exactly sound like the parents climbed barriers into the gorilla cage.

FNW · Guru

It's getting more interesting now...

NAOW · Vette's SS

There are still a lot of conflicting stories.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

So heartbreaking. I'm sure it happened in the blink of an eye.

Mary Zombie · Guru

Some fish and wildlife guy was saying it was unusual behavior for a gator in such a populated area with all the activity. Act of nature or God. Unfortunately we have no control.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I agree. I dont think the parents were doing anything egregious.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

How incredibly sad. I don't know how a parent would begin to process this.

That child, most likely, wont be found.

And 9 pm in Florida is what, 6pm in Nebraska?

This sounds like a terrible tragedy.

apple · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
Also - the boy was walking in the water when it happened.

ORLANDO — After 15 hours of searching a man-made lake at a Disney World resort hotel for a toddler snatched off the beach by an alligator,

Ohfour · Hooker

apple wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Also - the boy was walking in the water when it happened.
ORLANDO — After 15 hours of searching a man-made lake at a Disney World resort hotel for a toddler snatched off the beach by an alligator,

*sigh*

Orange County Sheriff Jerry Demings said the boy was about a foot into the water when his father spotted the alligator. The lake is called Seven Seas Lagoon, and flows into Bay Lake.

apple · Guru

ORLANDO, Fla., June 15 (Reuters) - Authorities searched for the body of a 2-year-old boy on Wednesday after the toddler was dragged into a lagoon by an alligator in front of his family during a vacation at Walt Disney World resort in Florida.

The boy was snatched as he played at the water's edge on Tuesday night, despite his parents' effort to save him, by an alligator believed to be between 4 and 7 feet (1.2 and 2 meters) long.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Alligators will get into pools. Under houses. Heck, in houses if the door is open.

It's Florida.

They're as common as tourists.

Ohfour · Hooker

apple wrote:
ORLANDO, Fla., June 15 (Reuters) - Authorities searched for the body of a 2-year-old boy on Wednesday after the toddler was dragged into a lagoon by an alligator in front of his family during a vacation at Walt Disney World resort in Florida.

The boy was snatched as he played at the water's edge on Tuesday night, despite his parents' effort to save him, by an alligator believed to be between 4 and 7 feet (1.2 and 2 meters) long.

Well, the sheriff and witnesses say he was in about a foot of water...

FNW · Guru

Oh, I know that lake. It's in front of the Magic Kingdom. I don't remember there being a "beach" per se, where one usually associates as being a place to play in sand, cool off in the water, etc. But I only saw the side that borders the Magic Kingdom.

I do remember they had a boat, similar to a ferryboat in appearance, that you could ride.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

You do realize that an alligator is just as agile and almost as fast on dry land.

The boy was wading. Ankle deep on a toddler isn't very deep.

But then again, does it matter?

A 2 yr old is dead due to a natural predator in a terrible turn of events.

chef · Guru

I can't imagine seeing DS be grabbed by an alligator. My heart breaks for the parents.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Tignanello wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
And if you want to get in the water at 9:20pm there are so many pools available at Disney. Pick one. But a freshwater lake with "no swimming" signs posted is not the place to wade.
And good gracious! Why were a 2 year old and a 4 year old at the beach at 9pm??!

Because the Grand Floridian beach is a great place to watch the Magic Kingdom fireworks.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

apple wrote:
ORLANDO, Fla., June 15 (Reuters) - Authorities searched for the body of a 2-year-old boy on Wednesday after the toddler was dragged into a lagoon by an alligator in front of his family during a vacation at Walt Disney World resort in Florida.

The boy was snatched as he played at the water's edge on Tuesday night, despite his parents' effort to save him, by an alligator believed to be between 4 and 7 feet (1.2 and 2 meters) long.

The sheriff and the witnesses said he and his mother were both in the water about a foot, playing. Not some reporter that wasn't there.

-- Edited by Lawyerlady on Wednesday 15th of June 2016 01:58:14 PM

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lawyerlady wrote:
Tignanello wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
And if you want to get in the water at 9:20pm there are so many pools available at Disney. Pick one. But a freshwater lake with "no swimming" signs posted is not the place to wade.
And good gracious! Why were a 2 year old and a 4 year old at the beach at 9pm??!
Because the Grand Floridian beach is a great place to watch the Magic Kingdom fireworks.

True!

There is also the lighted boat parade after.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

FNW wrote:
Oh, I know that lake. It's in front of the Magic Kingdom. I don't remember there being a "beach" per se, where one usually associates as being a place to play in sand, cool off in the water, etc. But I only saw the side that borders the Magic Kingdom.

I do remember they had a boat, similar to a ferryboat in appearance, that you could ride.

Yeah - I've ridden the ferry and the commuter boats to the hotel. They always tell you not to put your hands or feet in the water.

The child was dragged underwater in the Seven Seas Lagoon, witnesses told authorities. The lagoon is connected to a series of canals that feed into large bodies of water, according to Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission Executive Director Nick Wiley.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Playing in shallow water. Could have happened to anyone.