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I think trying to figure out a way around the sign is nitpicking. No swimming = don't go in the water. I figure there's a sign for a reason and I don't want to be the one to find out what that reason is.

It simply would not occur to me to even put a toe into the water if a 'no swimming' sign is present.

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From the above article:

Lane Graves was grabbed by an alligator as he paddled in the water


sounds like swimming to me



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And again, when a sign tells me not to do something I don't sit there and try to parse out exactly what I COULD do that would technically be obeying the sign. There could have been a sensitive ecology in the lake, breeding ground for endangered species, E. coli, toxic waste, that miserable bacteria that gives you the sh!ts when you swim, the amoeba that kills you, protected habitat for a species...so many reasons for the sign. People just need to read the sign and act accordingly.


 And what about this?!?!

 

Why put yourself in water when it says no swimming? You have no idea why the sign is there. So instead of trying to figure out how to get around what the sign says, just obey the sign. Swim in...the pool...where swimming is allowed!!! If that's what you want to do, do it somewhere appropriate!! 



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I think trying to figure out a way around the sign is nitpicking. No swimming = don't go in the water. I figure there's a sign for a reason and I don't want to be the one to find out what that reason is.

It simply would not occur to me to even put a toe into the water if a 'no swimming' sign is present.


 Thank you. Exactly this. 



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Divine Geek wrote:

From the above article:

Lane Graves was grabbed by an alligator as he paddled in the water


sounds like swimming to me


 Pretty much. 



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And, there were other kids doing it as this woman was with her child. And, there apparently was a lifeguard so why didn't the lifeguard order them out of the water?

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I have no clue why the lifeguard didn't ask them to get out. Maybe he was occupied trying to get others out of the water. Again, one would think that a sign that says "no swimming" would be enough to keep people out of the water. If you see a sign, follow it. The people who put it up had a reason for doing so. Just because it doesn't look dangerous doesn't mean it isn't. Not all dangers can be seen. That could have been a lake full of toxic sludge for all they knew - and they were letting their child play in it. Gross.

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And again, when a sign tells me not to do something I don't sit there and try to parse out exactly what I COULD do that would technically be obeying the sign. There could have been a sensitive ecology in the lake, breeding ground for endangered species, E. coli, toxic waste, that miserable bacteria that gives you the sh!ts when you swim, the amoeba that kills you, protected habitat for a species...so many reasons for the sign. People just need to read the sign and act accordingly.


 And what about this?!?!

 

Why put yourself in water when it says no swimming? You have no idea why the sign is there. So instead of trying to figure out how to get around what the sign says, just obey the sign. Swim in...the pool...where swimming is allowed!!! If that's what you want to do, do it somewhere appropriate!! 


 OK - so had dinner with the Florida in-laws yesterday who had Disney annual passes for years and have been there probably hundreds of times and have stayed at the Grand Floridian.  They said they were told the main reason for no swimming in that lake is parasites.  It's not clean water.  Nor does it look it.  



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And they live on the canal in Florida and end up with alligators in their back yard on a regular basis in Naples. You can't avoid alligators in Florida. I'm not even sure how Disney would be able to prevent alligators everywhere - that lake is connected to Florida waterways.

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And they live on the canal in Florida and end up with alligators in their back yard on a regular basis in Naples. You can't avoid alligators in Florida. I'm not even sure how Disney would be able to prevent alligators everywhere - that lake is connected to Florida waterways.


 I don't think they CAN.

But, if an alligator was spotted an hour before the poor kid was taken, TELL your guests.

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Alligators are spotted at Disney ALL THE TIME.

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Alligators are spotted at Disney ALL THE TIME.


 Does every single tourist know that? Would the parents have done anything differently had they known?

And the story I read said that the alligator was seen in the same spot in the lagoon that the child was taken.

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Alligators are spotted at Disney ALL THE TIME.


 Yes.  I mean, obviously the resorts should do whatever the can humanely do to erect alligator barriers and to alert the public.  Feeding alligators perhaps should come with a very steep fine.  That might be a place to start.  And, they do put up fences and so forth that hinder alligators though gators can climb fences.  They should make it very clear that lagoon swimming and swimming in canals and those types of areas come with a clear and present danger.    After that, not sure what else can be done.



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Alligators are spotted at Disney ALL THE TIME.


 Yes.  I mean, obviously the resorts should do whatever the can humanely do to erect alligator barriers and to alert the public.  Feeding alligators perhaps should come with a very steep fine.  That might be a place to start.  And, they do put up fences and so forth that hinder alligators though gators can climb fences.  They should make it very clear that lagoon swimming and swimming in canals and those types of areas come with a clear and present danger.    After that, not sure what else can be done.


 They are going to add signs about the alligators.  I still think that's along the lines of putting warning signs up at the ocean - beware of crabs, jellyfish, and sharks. 



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Alligators are spotted at Disney ALL THE TIME.


 Does every single tourist know that? Would the parents have done anything differently had they known?

And the story I read said that the alligator was seen in the same spot in the lagoon that the child was taken.

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 flan - it's FLORIDA.  You would think people would know a little bit about the place they are visiting.  And the alligator was in the lagoon - they found FIVE, actually, where people were not supposed to be.  

 

It's kind of like saying "do not use hair dryer in the bathtub" and then when someone does and gets electrocuted - "Well, you said not to do it, but you didn't tell me it could electrocute me!"



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flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:

Alligators are spotted at Disney ALL THE TIME.


 Does every single tourist know that? Would the parents have done anything differently had they known?

And the story I read said that the alligator was seen in the same spot in the lagoon that the child was taken.

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 flan - it's FLORIDA.  You would think people would know a little bit about the place they are visiting.  And the alligator was in the lagoon - they found FIVE, actually, where people were not supposed to be.  

 

It's kind of like saying "do not use hair dryer in the bathtub" and then when someone does and gets electrocuted - "Well, you said not to do it, but you didn't tell me it could electrocute me!"


 It has nothing to do with using a hairdryer near water.

I know how many alligators they found. The parents were likely so excited to be planning a visit to Disney World that they didn't consider studying up on the flora or fauna. We stayed at Orlando at least 3 times when the boys were young. The only thing we saw was lizards.

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flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:

Alligators are spotted at Disney ALL THE TIME.


 Does every single tourist know that? Would the parents have done anything differently had they known?

And the story I read said that the alligator was seen in the same spot in the lagoon that the child was taken.

flan


 flan - it's FLORIDA.  You would think people would know a little bit about the place they are visiting.  And the alligator was in the lagoon - they found FIVE, actually, where people were not supposed to be.  

 

It's kind of like saying "do not use hair dryer in the bathtub" and then when someone does and gets electrocuted - "Well, you said not to do it, but you didn't tell me it could electrocute me!"


 It has nothing to do with using a hairdryer near water.

I know how many alligators they found. The parents were likely so excited to be planning a visit to Disney World that they didn't consider studying up on the flora or fauna. We stayed at Orlando at least 3 times when the boys were young. The only thing we saw was lizards.

flan


 Uh huh.  It's all about common sense.  We seem to have to put warnings on everything now because people can't be bothered to think.

And I doubt you were staying at the resorts on the Lagoon.  



-- Edited by Lawyerlady on Saturday 18th of June 2016 01:13:01 PM

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I call them idiot warnings. 'Not for internal consumption' labels on bleach and other cleaning products. Really? You seriously need to be told not to drink a chemical? But then, I see shows like My Strange Addiction on which one woman was addicted to drinking bleach.

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