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flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

RE: Obama Administration edits 911 call from Orlando shooter

apple · Guru

"We're not going to propagate their rhetoric, their violent rhetoric," FBI Special Agent Ron Hopper said.

All references to ISIS made by the self-proclaimed radical Islamist terrorist.

And yes tinydancer, we (the public) already knew what was on the tapes.

Tinydancer · Guru

So how did releasing the full transcript change anything? IT DIDN'T. So why did you and flan act like they shouldn't have.?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

apple wrote:
"We're not going to propagate their rhetoric, their violent rhetoric," FBI Special Agent Ron Hopper said.

All references to ISIS made by the self-proclaimed radical Islamist terrorist.

And yes tinydancer, we (the public) already knew what was on the tapes.

Did I tell you to say that?

flan

Tinydancer · Guru

Did she tell YOU to say that? flannie want a cracker?

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
If I make a spelling error now and then, oh well.

I post from my phone. It corrects things as it posts.

Have a problem with it?

I don't care.

As for Apple and Flan refusing to call radical Islamist terrorists just that, then I assume they are supporters of the cause.

How about you get your priorities straight.

Do you care about women's rights? Are you opposed to slavery? Do you want those of the LGBTQ community to be able to live in peace? Do you think children are property?

Because when you refuse to shine a light on Radical Islam, you are allowing the hate you are so fond of pointing out, to grow.

Islam, be it radical or mainstream, ALL have the same ideology.

Kill anyone who doesn't follow Islam.

Period.

And I post from my laptop or work desktop, so I am the one who controls MY words.
As far as the bolded:
FIND A QUOTE.
flan

You prove you're not a sympathizer.

What say ye about the red?

apple · Guru

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"We're not going to propagate their rhetoric, their violent rhetoric," FBI Special Agent Ron Hopper said.
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I realize you don't agree simply because it wasn't a republican idea, but I do think that giving terrorists exactly what they want is not a good plan.
I say this from a place that doesn't recognize politics, just common sense. I am not a member of either of your warring political groups.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

So, again, how does NOT pointing out ISIS going to make it go away?

Ohfour · Hooker

People need to be angry. And posting the call is the best way to do it. Otherwise, people (ahem) say they don't believe it was Radical Islam.

Cause the president sure isn't angry about it...Hell, he says ISIS doesn't even exist!

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

That's what I said.

Enough people get angry and something will get done about it.

apple · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
So, again, how does NOT pointing out ISIS going to make it go away?

Do you think that the government and the world does not know that Isis is a threat? Seriously?

You tell me, how does giving terrorist the attention and glory they so desire, exactly what they want, work for you? How will giving them what they want make them go away?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

apple wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
So, again, how does NOT pointing out ISIS going to make it go away?
Do you think that the government and the world does not know that Isis is a threat? Seriously?

You tell me, how does giving terrorist the attention and glory they so desire, exactly what they want, work for you? How will giving them what they want make them go away?

Apparently our "administration" are all ISIS sympathizers.

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

But.

Truth is, nothing will be done.

ISIS will take over.

Anyone who doesn't fall in line, will be killed.

Everyone will be required to have a visible mark to be allowed any transaction.

And those without it, will be arrested and killed.

Ohfour · Hooker

apple wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
So, again, how does NOT pointing out ISIS going to make it go away?
Do you think that the government and the world does not know that Isis is a threat? Seriously?

You tell me, how does giving terrorist the attention and glory they so desire, exactly what they want, work for you? How will giving them what they want make them go away?

Obama said just a couple of days ago that they are contained. So, no, the government doesn't know that they are a threat...

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

lilyofcourse wrote:
So, again, how does NOT pointing out ISIS going to make it go away?

It's like those WESTBORO idiots. There is a DIFFERENCE between admitting they exist & giving them a microphone and air time.

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
apple wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
So, again, how does NOT pointing out ISIS going to make it go away?
Do you think that the government and the world does not know that Isis is a threat? Seriously?

You tell me, how does giving terrorist the attention and glory they so desire, exactly what they want, work for you? How will giving them what they want make them go away?

Apparently our "administration" are all ISIS sympathizers.
flan

Well, it sure does look like it doesn't it?

chef · Guru

How are we to get rid of ISIS without talking about ISIS?

Ohfour · Hooker

No, President Barack Obama—we aren’t winning the war against the Islamic State.

The head of the CIA, John Brennan, testified on Thursday that, “Despite all our progress against [the Islamic State] on the battlefield and in the financial realm, our efforts have not reduced the group’s terrorism capacity and global reach.”

In fact, the Islamic State, also known as ISIS, is actively recruiting, training, and deploying operatives for future attacks in the west.

According to his remarks, “[ISIS] has a large cadre of western fighters who could potentially serve as operatives for attacks in the west … the group is probably exploring a variety of means for infiltrating operatives into the west, including refugee flows, smuggling routes, and legitimate methods of travel.”

So, ISIS has not been contained—or even deterred. This revelation really shouldn’t surprise us.

The Obama administration has stubbornly maintained its position that we are actively containing and defeating ISIS despite all contrary evidence. Reality and hard facts appear irrelevant. Plus, the Obama administration knows how to spin a narrative.

In the wake of Orlando, the U.S. needs to double down against ISIS both at home and abroad. Overseas, the U.S. should proactively double down and lead a multipronged global effort to deny ISIS territory, disrupt recruitment efforts, and uproot its destructive ideology.

At home, the U.S. should reform the counterterrorism enterprise by refocusing the Department of Homeland Security on intelligence capabilities and improving coordination between the DHS and other agencies.

For the sake of our safety and security, the Obama administration needs to abandon its position that we are winning this war and take a good look at the hard facts.

dailysignal.com/2016/06/16/cia-director-affirms-obamas-isis-strategy-not-working/

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

lilyofcourse wrote:
But.

Truth is, nothing will be done.

ISIS will take over.

Anyone who doesn't fall in line, will be killed.

Everyone will be required to have a visible mark to be allowed any transaction.

And those without it, will be arrested and killed.

Certifiable...

Will it happen before or after wifi access in Antarctica?

flan

Mary Zombie · Guru

FNW wrote:
They changed their mind and released the supposedly unedited written version, where he plead loyalty to the ISIS leader.

Obviously the powers that be agree with those of a that think it's wrong to hide the facts.

😀

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

apple wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
So, again, how does NOT pointing out ISIS going to make it go away?
Do you think that the government and the world does not know that Isis is a threat? Seriously?

You tell me, how does giving terrorist the attention and glory they so desire, exactly what they want, work for you? How will giving them what they want make them go away?

Well. I don't depend on the government to keep me safe when it comes to this kind of thing.

Because currently, it isnt.

And by not saying anything, by letting these acts go by without pointing out what is behind them, we have people like you and Flan. People who are willing to lay down and do nothing.

I see pointing out these attacks and who carries them out as standing up to them.

You don't let a bully continue to abuse you.

You point out what they are doing.

You get mad.

And you fight back.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

And it isn't glory.

It's shaming.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
But.

Truth is, nothing will be done.

ISIS will take over.

Anyone who doesn't fall in line, will be killed.

Everyone will be required to have a visible mark to be allowed any transaction.

And those without it, will be arrested and killed.

Certifiable...
Will it happen before or after wifi access in Antarctica?
flan

Make fun all you want.

But it'll happen.

You'll see.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Or YOU'LL see...

flan

Mary Zombie · Guru

It happened in Germany. So knowing it happened somewhere how can anyone not get that it can happen again? I don't get it

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

It's the blinders, Mary.

Or the willful ignorance.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

flan327 wrote:
Or YOU'LL see...

flan

Hahaha.....

Ok.

Tinydancer · Guru

But if we DON'T talk about them they'll just go away...lol. Talk about wishful thinking. Time to wake up and join reality.

apple · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
And it isn't glory.

It's shaming.

Ya lily I'm sure that by having you run around screaming ISIS did it STOP ISIS, ISIS, ISIS, ISIS.... is really shaming them. confuse

For goodness sake can you not see THAT is what they want. There is no shame for them to get what they want!!! and people of your mindset unwittingly supply them with EXACTLY what they want.

This isn't like any war in your history, this is completely different and has to be dealt with differently.

apple · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
But if we DON'T talk about them they'll just go away...lol. Talk about wishful thinking. Time to wake up and join reality.

Sure, you keep supplying them with exactly what they want, that will make them stop.

Tinydancer · Guru

No I'm not. What they want is every infidel dead. I refuse to stand by and watch that happen You can if you want to but I will always want the truth out there.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I've asked several times now.

What do we do then?

Tinydancer · Guru

We give them apple and flan because hey it wasn't gonna happen remember...

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I really want to know what Apple thinks should be done.

What is going to stop the terrorists?

And I also want to know how she can be all about gay rights and women's rights while also being all about supporting Muslims.

apple · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
No I'm not. What they want is every infidel dead. I refuse to stand by and watch that happen You can if you want to but I will always want the truth out there.

And the truth is....what? What do terrorist want? They want you to live in fear and they want you to fear them. They want your attention and all the free publicity that comes with it.

Tinydancer · Guru

They want to kill you. If you really think they care whether the whole transcript of what he said is out there you are more naive than even I pegged you for.

apple · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
I really want to know what Apple thinks should be done.

What is going to stop the terrorists?

And I also want to know how she can be all about gay rights and women's rights while also being all about supporting Muslims.

Stop Supporting the Dictators Who Fund Terrorists

Stop Arming Terrorists

Stop Imperial Conquests for Arab Oil

apple · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
They want to kill you. If you really think they care whether the whole transcript of what he said is out there you are more naive than even I pegged you for.

They want you to fear them, and you do.

They want your attention, and you give it to them.

Tinydancer · Guru

You should fear them. They want you dead. I really don't believe NOT talking about them will make them go away but more power to you if you think that will work. Burying the truth will stop them how?

apple · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
You should fear them. They want you dead. I really don't believe NOT talking about them will make them go away but more power to you if you think that will work. Burying the truth will stop them how?

Not giving them the attention they want does not mean they are not being dealt with.

Not giving them the attention they want takes away their power over you.

Tinydancer · Guru

They have no power over me so I want the truth out there. You can pretend all you want and I don't think ISIS will care that you're not giving them attention. We'd both be just as dead if they get their way.

Ohfour · Hooker

apple wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
They want to kill you. If you really think they care whether the whole transcript of what he said is out there you are more naive than even I pegged you for.
They want you to fear them, and you do.
They want your attention, and you give it to them.

Of course we fear them. One lived less than a mile from my house.

apple · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
They have no power over me so I want the truth out there. You can pretend all you want and I don't think ISIS will care that you're not giving them attention. We'd both be just as dead if they get their way.

You are missing the point entirely. You are doing exactly what they want you to and you can't or won't admit it.

Tinydancer · Guru

I don't care what THEY WANT. How's that?

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

apple wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
I really want to know what Apple thinks should be done.

What is going to stop the terrorists?

And I also want to know how she can be all about gay rights and women's rights while also being all about supporting Muslims.
Stop Supporting the Dictators Who Fund Terrorists
Stop Arming Terrorists
Stop Imperial Conquests for Arab Oil

Ok. Stop funding dictators who fund terrorists. But how would we know who they are unless we TALK about it and actually name the terrorists?

Again, how do we know who they are unless we name them?

Oil? It isn't about oil. It's about complete domination.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

apple wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
You should fear them. They want you dead. I really don't believe NOT talking about them will make them go away but more power to you if you think that will work. Burying the truth will stop them how?
Not giving them the attention they want does not mean they are not being dealt with.
Not giving them the attention they want takes away their power over you.

So who is dealing with them? How are they being dealt with?

And what fear? Do you understand that anger is not fear?

Fear cripples.

Anger empowers.

apple · Guru

Call it fear or call it anger, whatever ... ISIS enjoys both.

Tinydancer · Guru

So I ask again. How does not talking about it help?

Ohfour · Hooker

apple wrote:
Call it fear or call it anger, whatever ... ISIS enjoys both.

I really don't care... Better than the response they are getting from the president. Which is approval...

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

No.

They like when you do nothing.

Well, you do nothing.

I'm gonna fight.

Even if the only thing I can do is point out the evil.