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FWM, I understand that.

I am saying that a mother will choose their child over them self.

Not talking about doctors.

A real mom will not seek out to kill her child.


 There are situations where I might choose my life over my unborn child's. If I had several small children at home, it would be damn difficult to make a decision to leave them motherless AND add another child to the household. 

You can call me names or think I am a terrible mother. I don't really care. I am just being honest that it would not be a slam dunk decision for me. 


And, a lot of Moms would beg a doctor, to save her baby.

Even if it meant that she would die.

I'm sure, that has happened.

But, for ed to say that the Catholic Church/Hospitals...will choose the baby's life, over the Mother's life........is Bull ****.

Enough with the Catholic bashing.

Especially, when it's lies/myths. 


 I didn't mention you, Ed, or the Catholic Church. Sorry. Wasn't even referring to any of that. Just referring to what lily posted. 


Try reading a thread, before you post, MM.

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Ummm...I did read he thread. I was responding to Lily saying any mother would choose her baby's life. I was NOT responding to anything about you or Ed or the Catholic Church. One thread can be about multiple topics. What is your problem? Why are you being so rude? What did I say to offend you so much? I simply made a comment in response to Lily saying any mother would choose her baby's life over her own. If you are upset at Ed that's fine but don't take it out on me. You are off the rails right now.

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Mellow Momma wrote:

Ummm...I did read he thread. I was responding to Lily saying any mother would choose her baby's life. I was NOT responding to anything about you or Ed or the Catholic Church. One thread can be about multiple topics. What is your problem? Why are you being so rude? What did I say to offend you so much? I simply made a comment in response to Lily saying any mother would choose her baby's life over her own. If you are upset at Ed that's fine but don't take it out on me. You are off the rails right now.


 Armchair psychologist?

She's upset about Wayne's job situation. Maybe this has been building for some time?

All I know is that I was raised a Catholic, and this simply was not discussed...one way or the other. I never knew it was an "issue" or that other faiths perceived it as such.

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Mellow Momma wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

FWM, I understand that.

I am saying that a mother will choose their child over them self.

Not talking about doctors.

A real mom will not seek out to kill her child.


 There are situations where I might choose my life over my unborn child's. If I had several small children at home, it would be damn difficult to make a decision to leave them motherless AND add another child to the household. 

You can call me names or think I am a terrible mother. I don't really care. I am just being honest that it would not be a slam dunk decision for me. 


 I understand this.  This would be a very difficult decision, and I wouldn't judge a woman either way.  I also think the specific family dynamic of each family would matter.  

I am pro-life, but pro-life means all life, including the mother's.  I do not think a woman has to sacrifice her own life for a pregnancy, especially when she has other children to consider.  Saying a woman is a monster for making that choice is just flat out wrong. 



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Lawyerlady wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

FWM, I understand that.

I am saying that a mother will choose their child over them self.

Not talking about doctors.

A real mom will not seek out to kill her child.


 There are situations where I might choose my life over my unborn child's. If I had several small children at home, it would be damn difficult to make a decision to leave them motherless AND add another child to the household. 

You can call me names or think I am a terrible mother. I don't really care. I am just being honest that it would not be a slam dunk decision for me. 


 I understand this.  This would be a very difficult decision, and I wouldn't judge a woman either way.  I also think the specific family dynamic of each family would matter.  

I am pro-life, but pro-life means all life, including the mother's.  I do not think a woman has to sacrifice her own life for a pregnancy, especially when she has other children to consider.  Saying a woman is a monster for making that choice is just flat out wrong. 


 This times 1000.

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And I'll tell you this - if my daughter was pregnant and the choice came down to my daughter or my unborn grandchild - I'd choose my daughter every time.

And I think most everyone would - whether they will admit it or not.

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I would choose to live, honestly. I am not ready to leave this world, nor am I ready to leave my family with an early, possible sick baby to care for without me.
If that makes me a terrible person, so be it.
I want to live, thank you. Such a selfish desire.

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And I'll tell you this - if my daughter was pregnant and the choice came down to my daughter or my unborn grandchild - I'd choose my daughter every time.

And I think most everyone would - whether they will admit it or not.


 I agree with this 100%. 



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Ummm...I did read he thread. I was responding to Lily saying any mother would choose her baby's life. I was NOT responding to anything about you or Ed or the Catholic Church. One thread can be about multiple topics. What is your problem? Why are you being so rude? What did I say to offend you so much? I simply made a comment in response to Lily saying any mother would choose her baby's life over her own. If you are upset at Ed that's fine but don't take it out on me. You are off the rails right now.


 Armchair psychologist?

She's upset about Wayne's job situation. Maybe this has been building for some time?

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 I understand what you are saying and I appreciate the situation. But you don't get to be rude to people because you have drama in your personal life. Most of us here have drama in our personal lives. Deal with it like an adult and be nice to those who have done nothing to deserve your bile. It's easy to be nice to people when your life is going well and you have no worries. Real character is being nice to people when it is difficult and your life isn't going so well. 



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I agree with you, MM.

It's just so out of character for her.

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Lawyerlady wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

FWM, I understand that.

I am saying that a mother will choose their child over them self.

Not talking about doctors.

A real mom will not seek out to kill her child.


 There are situations where I might choose my life over my unborn child's. If I had several small children at home, it would be damn difficult to make a decision to leave them motherless AND add another child to the household. 

You can call me names or think I am a terrible mother. I don't really care. I am just being honest that it would not be a slam dunk decision for me. 


 I understand this.  This would be a very difficult decision, and I wouldn't judge a woman either way.  I also think the specific family dynamic of each family would matter.  

I am pro-life, but pro-life means all life, including the mother's.  I do not think a woman has to sacrifice her own life for a pregnancy, especially when she has other children to consider.  Saying a woman is a monster for making that choice is just flat out wrong. 


 An opinion is wrong?

I stand by it.

I said a woman SEEKING TO KILL.

Not it's an emergency and there is no other choice.

Most abortions are not emergency situations. 

It is a woman wanting to kill her unborn child because the child is an inconvenience and, in their eyes, disposable. 

That is a monster.

 



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And yes. I would choose my child in an emergency situation.

And I'm pretty sure, she would choose her child in an emergency situation.

See how that works?

I'll never sacrifice my child for my own sake.


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lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

FWM, I understand that.

I am saying that a mother will choose their child over them self.

Not talking about doctors.

A real mom will not seek out to kill her child.


 There are situations where I might choose my life over my unborn child's. If I had several small children at home, it would be damn difficult to make a decision to leave them motherless AND add another child to the household. 

You can call me names or think I am a terrible mother. I don't really care. I am just being honest that it would not be a slam dunk decision for me. 


 I understand this.  This would be a very difficult decision, and I wouldn't judge a woman either way.  I also think the specific family dynamic of each family would matter.  

I am pro-life, but pro-life means all life, including the mother's.  I do not think a woman has to sacrifice her own life for a pregnancy, especially when she has other children to consider.  Saying a woman is a monster for making that choice is just flat out wrong. 


 An opinion is wrong?

I stand by it.

I said a woman SEEKING TO KILL.

Not it's an emergency and there is no other choice.

Most abortions are not emergency situations. 

It is a woman wanting to kill her unborn child because the child is an inconvenience and, in their eyes, disposable. 

That is a monster.

 


 That is not her comment and you know it.  Backpedal all you want.  There is a big difference between a woman choosing an elective abortion and one choosing to live in an either/or situation and you know it - yet you make no allowances for it.  In my opinion, your attitude that a woman who chooses to live is not a mother is flat out wrong, detestable, and in-humane.



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You know, any real mother would give her life for her child.


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You know, any real mother would give her life for her child.


 You might, I might but some just don't have that feeling.


 Then that isn't a mother.

It isn't a woman.

They selfish, self centered, wastes of oxygen.

When someone seeks out to kill their child, they are a monster.

 


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Mellow Momma wrote:
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And I'll tell you this - if my daughter was pregnant and the choice came down to my daughter or my unborn grandchild - I'd choose my daughter every time.

And I think most everyone would - whether they will admit it or not.


 I agree with this 100%. 


 This is how I feel too.  If it came down to my life or my baby the family I have needs me.  If it came down to my daughter or my grand child, and most of you know how much I would like one, I would chose my daughter's life.  To call me a monster is detestable.



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lilyofcourse wrote:

FWM, I understand that.

I am saying that a mother will choose their child over them self.

Not talking about doctors.

A real mom will not seek out to kill her child.


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Mellow Momma wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

FWM, I understand that.

I am saying that a mother will choose their child over them self.

Not talking about doctors.

A real mom will not seek out to kill her child.


 There are situations where I might choose my life over my unborn child's. If I had several small children at home, it would be damn difficult to make a decision to leave them motherless AND add another child to the household. 

You can call me names or think I am a terrible mother. I don't really care. I am just being honest that it would not be a slam dunk decision for me. 


 MM's response to my third post.



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lilyofcourse wrote:

There is no way I could live with myself if I wasn't 100% sure I did everything to save my child.

And I don't see how any woman could seek out to kill her baby.

That's not a woman, that's not even a human to me.


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Mellow Momma wrote:
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Mellow Momma wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

FWM, I understand that.

I am saying that a mother will choose their child over them self.

Not talking about doctors.

A real mom will not seek out to kill her child.


 There are situations where I might choose my life over my unborn child's. If I had several small children at home, it would be damn difficult to make a decision to leave them motherless AND add another child to the household. 

You can call me names or think I am a terrible mother. I don't really care. I am just being honest that it would not be a slam dunk decision for me. 


And, a lot of Moms would beg a doctor, to save her baby.

Even if it meant that she would die.

I'm sure, that has happened.

But, for ed to say that the Catholic Church/Hospitals...will choose the baby's life, over the Mother's life........is Bull ****.

Enough with the Catholic bashing.

Especially, when it's lies/myths. 


 I didn't mention you, Ed, or the Catholic Church. Sorry. Wasn't even referring to any of that. Just referring to what lily posted. 


 MM's second post to my third post



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Mellow Momma wrote:

Ummm...I did read he thread. I was responding to Lily saying any mother would choose her baby's life. I was NOT responding to anything about you or Ed or the Catholic Church. One thread can be about multiple topics. What is your problem? Why are you being so rude? What did I say to offend you so much? I simply made a comment in response to Lily saying any mother would choose her baby's life over her own. If you are upset at Ed that's fine but don't take it out on me. You are off the rails right now.


 MM obviously NOT comprehending what I wrote.

I never said in an emergency situation. 

I said SEEKING TO KILL.

That isn't an emergency situation. 



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Lawyerlady wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:

FWM, I understand that.

I am saying that a mother will choose their child over them self.

Not talking about doctors.

A real mom will not seek out to kill her child.


 There are situations where I might choose my life over my unborn child's. If I had several small children at home, it would be damn difficult to make a decision to leave them motherless AND add another child to the household. 

You can call me names or think I am a terrible mother. I don't really care. I am just being honest that it would not be a slam dunk decision for me. 


 I understand this.  This would be a very difficult decision, and I wouldn't judge a woman either way.  I also think the specific family dynamic of each family would matter.  

I am pro-life, but pro-life means all life, including the mother's.  I do not think a woman has to sacrifice her own life for a pregnancy, especially when she has other children to consider.  Saying a woman is a monster for making that choice is just flat out wrong. 


 And this is you, LL, not grasping what I said either. Just jumping on the slam Lily band wagon.

Still, I did not say in an emergency situation.

I said SEEKING TO KILL.

 



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lilyofcourse wrote:
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lilyofcourse wrote:

FWM, I understand that.

I am saying that a mother will choose their child over them self.

Not talking about doctors.

A real mom will not seek out to kill her child.


 There are situations where I might choose my life over my unborn child's. If I had several small children at home, it would be damn difficult to make a decision to leave them motherless AND add another child to the household. 

You can call me names or think I am a terrible mother. I don't really care. I am just being honest that it would not be a slam dunk decision for me. 


 I understand this.  This would be a very difficult decision, and I wouldn't judge a woman either way.  I also think the specific family dynamic of each family would matter.  

I am pro-life, but pro-life means all life, including the mother's.  I do not think a woman has to sacrifice her own life for a pregnancy, especially when she has other children to consider.  Saying a woman is a monster for making that choice is just flat out wrong. 


 An opinion is wrong?

I stand by it.

I said a woman SEEKING TO KILL.

Not it's an emergency and there is no other choice.

Most abortions are not emergency situations. 

It is a woman wanting to kill her unborn child because the child is an inconvenience and, in their eyes, disposable. 

That is a monster.

 


 My fifth post.

 



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And yes. I would choose my child in an emergency situation.

And I'm pretty sure, she would choose her child in an emergency situation.

See how that works?

I'll never sacrifice my child for my own sake.


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Still not back peddling on what I said.

 



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lilyofcourse wrote:

FWM, I understand that.

I am saying that a mother will choose their child over them self.

Not talking about doctors.

A real mom will not seek out to kill her child.


 There are situations where I might choose my life over my unborn child's. If I had several small children at home, it would be damn difficult to make a decision to leave them motherless AND add another child to the household. 

You can call me names or think I am a terrible mother. I don't really care. I am just being honest that it would not be a slam dunk decision for me. 


 I understand this.  This would be a very difficult decision, and I wouldn't judge a woman either way.  I also think the specific family dynamic of each family would matter.  

I am pro-life, but pro-life means all life, including the mother's.  I do not think a woman has to sacrifice her own life for a pregnancy, especially when she has other children to consider.  Saying a woman is a monster for making that choice is just flat out wrong. 


 An opinion is wrong?

I stand by it.

I said a woman SEEKING TO KILL.

Not it's an emergency and there is no other choice.

Most abortions are not emergency situations. 

It is a woman wanting to kill her unborn child because the child is an inconvenience and, in their eyes, disposable. 

That is a monster.

 


 That is not her comment and you know it.  Backpedal all you want.  There is a big difference between a woman choosing an elective abortion and one choosing to live in an either/or situation and you know it - yet you make no allowances for it.  In my opinion, your attitude that a woman who chooses to live is not a mother is flat out wrong, detestable, and in-humane.


 And here you are, LL, accusing me of going back on what I said.

No you tell me.

At what point did I do that?

I was talking about abortion.

NOT emergency situations. 

And I stand by what I said.

A WOMAN WHO SEEKS OUT TO KILL HER UNBORN CHILD IS A MONSTER.

That isn't about the emergency, life threatening situations.

 



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Most abortions are NOT about saving the mother's life.

Most abortions are about women who were too self centered to use proper birth control and don't want the inconvenience of a child.

Show me one time I said any different.

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You know, any real mother would give her life for her child.


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 This post implies all situations and especially an emergency situation. What other situation would require giving up one's life except an emergency?! You were not clear. This post was vague and broad. Don't get mad that people understood you to be talking about ALl situations when you don't limit what you said. 



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You know, any real mother would give her life for her child.


 First post


 This post implies all situations and especially an emergency situation. What other situation would require giving up one's life except an emergency?! You were not clear. This post was vague and broad. Don't get mad that people understood you to be talking about ALl situations when you don't limit what you said. 


 And my second post clarified.

You got defensive over what YOU thought I meant.

That's 100% on you.

 

 



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And yes. I would give my life for my child.

And I think abortion is wrong.

Period.



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And I'll tell you this - if my daughter was pregnant and the choice came down to my daughter or my unborn grandchild - I'd choose my daughter every time.

And I think most everyone would - whether they will admit it or not.


 I agree with this 100%. 


 This is how I feel too.  If it came down to my life or my baby the family I have needs me.  If it came down to my daughter or my grand child, and most of you know how much I would like one, I would chose my daughter's life.  To call me a monster is detestable.


 

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lilyofcourse wrote:
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You know, any real mother would give her life for her child.


 First post


 This post implies all situations and especially an emergency situation. What other situation would require giving up one's life except an emergency?! You were not clear. This post was vague and broad. Don't get mad that people understood you to be talking about ALl situations when you don't limit what you said. 


 And my second post clarified.

You got defensive over what YOU thought I meant.

That's 100% on you.

 

 

looks like you can't read either. I got defensive over FWM jumping all over me and being rude when I wasn't even responding to her or her point. It had literally nothing to do with you.

Good lord can anyone on this board read?! Why does everyone think every post is about them?! Wow.  



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MM...

ALL the posts are about ME.

110%

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Mellow Momma wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
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You know, any real mother would give her life for her child.


 First post


 This post implies all situations and especially an emergency situation. What other situation would require giving up one's life except an emergency?! You were not clear. This post was vague and broad. Don't get mad that people understood you to be talking about ALl situations when you don't limit what you said. 


 And my second post clarified.

You got defensive over what YOU thought I meant.

That's 100% on you.

 

 

looks like you can't read either. I got defensive over FWM jumping all over me and being rude when I wasn't even responding to her or her point. It had literally nothing to do with you.

Good lord can anyone on this board read?! Why does everyone think every post is about them?! Wow.  


 Uh huh....



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This tree says different. 
lilyofcourse wrote:
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lilyofcourse wrote:

FWM, I understand that.

I am saying that a mother will choose their child over them self.

Not talking about doctors.

A real mom will not seek out to kill her child.


 There are situations where I might choose my life over my unborn child's. If I had several small children at home, it would be damn difficult to make a decision to leave them motherless AND add another child to the household. 

You can call me names or think I am a terrible mother. I don't really care. I am just being honest that it would not be a slam dunk decision for me. 


And, a lot of Moms would beg a doctor, to save her baby.

Even if it meant that she would die.

I'm sure, that has happened.

But, for ed to say that the Catholic Church/Hospitals...will choose the baby's life, over the Mother's life........is Bull ****.

Enough with the Catholic bashing.

Especially, when it's lies/myths. 


 I didn't mention you, Ed, or the Catholic Church. Sorry. Wasn't even referring to any of that. Just referring to what lily posted. 


 MM's second post to my third post


 



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No lily. Look at the quote tree. It was in response to FWM's post. That's the one directly before my supposedly "defensive" post. Honestly, your reading comprehension is pretty horrible if you can't comprehend this much. No wonder you get into so many kerfuffles on this board. You literally cannot follow a train of conversation.

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You were responding to my post.

You said that.

I NEVER said anything about emergency situations.

You ASSUMED that I did.

You got pissy over NOTHING.

You try to insult me or even shame me.

But the fact is, you accused me of something I did not say.

I'm not really surprised though.

It's happened before.



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