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Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Clothing store employee, 18, is FIRED after having an allergic reaction at work that left her 10 minutes from death

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I can't paste the whole article. For some reason, my computer is scrolling down very slow and not sure why. So it would take me forever to scroll down to copy it.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

The timing was bad but I can understand the firing.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Fire her for what?

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Fire her for what?

Probably eating around the merchandise.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Maybe there was a breakroom? It doesn't say anywhere we she damaged any merchandise. But, gee, how about caring if someone is about to die?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Now, this happened in Canada? Imagine if it happened in the US at Walmart! There would be protestors in the street!

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

Good gosh that is cold.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Yeah, really. Yeah, just drop dead over your minimum wage job. Sure. What about protecting employees? Wow.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Just thinking about possibilities.

It was an allergic reaction.

Where did the bell pepper come from?

Was she supposed to eating?

How does this affect the stores insurance?

How do they protect themselves from possible law suits?

We're they already looking for a reason to let her go?

Yes.

You care about the persons health.

But there is a bigger picture.

I'm just saying, I can understand the decision.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Die die die you stupid pepper eating beitch!!

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
Just thinking about possibilities.

It was an allergic reaction.

Where did the bell pepper come from?

Was she supposed to eating?

How does this affect the stores insurance?

How do they protect themselves from possible law suits?

We're they already looking for a reason to let her go?

Yes.

You care about the persons health.

But there is a bigger picture.

I'm just saying, I can understand the decision.

OK. Then don't hire diabetics. They could drop their sugar and go into a diabetic coma. Dont' hire someone with a seizure disorder or heart disease. They could seize or die all over the clothes! We can't have that. Oh, and eating, why should anyone ever eat again. No eating, cuz you know that might happen to someone else.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

You can eat at work -- on your designated break and meal periods. No other time. If you do it's time clock fraud and that is also called stealing. When you work in a clothing store, your job is to be on the selling floor, helping people with the merchandise, not eating. You never, ever, ever eat ON the sales floor and you never eat outside of your designated break or meal period. Yes it is strict but it is that way at every retail store I have ever worked at. Some of you who get to nosh all day as you sit at your desk have no idea. You wouldn't last a day at a retail store. Being 10 minutes late to work can get you written up - even if it's the first time and even if you have a great "reason". That's the way it is.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Die die die you stupid pepper eating beitch!!

Dramatic much?

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Just thinking about possibilities.

It was an allergic reaction.

Where did the bell pepper come from?

Was she supposed to eating?

How does this affect the stores insurance?

How do they protect themselves from possible law suits?

We're they already looking for a reason to let her go?

Yes.

You care about the persons health.

But there is a bigger picture.

I'm just saying, I can understand the decision.
OK. Then don't hire diabetics. They could drop their sugar and go into a diabetic coma. Dont' hire someone with a seizure disorder or heart disease. They could seize or die all over the clothes! We can't have that. Oh, and eating, why should anyone ever eat again. No eating, cuz you know that might happen to someone else.

Alrighty then.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Bwwahhh!!! biggrin

WYSIWYG · Guru

You can eat at work -- on your designated break and meal periods. No other time. If you do it's time clock fraud and that is also called stealing. When you work in a clothing store, your job is to be on the selling floor, helping people with the merchandise, not eating. You never, ever, ever eat ON the sales floor and you never eat outside of your designated break or meal period. Yes it is strict but it is that way at every retail store I have ever worked at. Some of you who get to nosh all day as you sit at your desk have no idea. You wouldn't last a day at a retail store. Being 10 minutes late to work can get you written up - even if it's the first time and even if you have a great "reason". That's the way it is.
- Mellow Momma

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It might not necessarily be "time clock fraud" if clocking out for breaks isn't required.

It's been a long time since I worked retail in a store, but the last time I did, we ate or took a break when we had a chance, not "arrive at work, clock in, work 2 hours, take 15 minutes, work 2 hours, take 30 minutes (lunch), work 2 hours, take 15 minutes, work 2 hours, clock out, go home".

To the OP - Where did she get the bell pepper from? The article doesn't mention it. Was it in something she ate? Who provided it?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Mellow Momma wrote:
You can eat at work -- on your designated break and meal periods. No other time. If you do it's time clock fraud and that is also called stealing. When you work in a clothing store, your job is to be on the selling floor, helping people with the merchandise, not eating. You never, ever, ever eat ON the sales floor and you never eat outside of your designated break or meal period. Yes it is strict but it is that way at every retail store I have ever worked at. Some of you who get to nosh all day as you sit at your desk have no idea. You wouldn't last a day at a retail store. Being 10 minutes late to work can get you written up - even if it's the first time and even if you have a great "reason". That's the way it is.

I am guilty of noshing, but not sitting at my desk...although I do have a desk...

Don't even get me started on punctuality. My current boss could not care less. THAT'S not professional. I will continue to arrive early.

flan

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

WYSIWYG wrote:
You can eat at work -- on your designated break and meal periods. No other time. If you do it's time clock fraud and that is also called stealing. When you work in a clothing store, your job is to be on the selling floor, helping people with the merchandise, not eating. You never, ever, ever eat ON the sales floor and you never eat outside of your designated break or meal period. Yes it is strict but it is that way at every retail store I have ever worked at. Some of you who get to nosh all day as you sit at your desk have no idea. You wouldn't last a day at a retail store. Being 10 minutes late to work can get you written up - even if it's the first time and even if you have a great "reason". That's the way it is.
- Mellow Momma

___________________________

It might not necessarily be "time clock fraud" if clocking out for breaks isn't required.

It's been a long time since I worked retail in a store, but the last time I did, we ate or took a break when we had a chance, not "arrive at work, clock in, work 2 hours, take 15 minutes, work 2 hours, take 30 minutes (lunch), work 2 hours, take 15 minutes, work 2 hours, clock out, go home".

To the OP - Where did she get the bell pepper from? The article doesn't mention it. Was it in something she ate? Who provided it?

Eating when you should be working most certainly IS time clock fraud.

And having been in the business all my life I can tell you that there are some stores that do as you described and some that are very strict and punctual about breaks and meals. In both cases though, eating was strictly forbidden unless it was your break or lunch. The fact that the store does not pre schedule the break doesn't mean they are ok with the employee talking it whenever he/she feels like it. You need management approval. Not getting that approval can mean termination. Nothing worse than being really in the weeds and looking around and seeing that an employee has chosen to take a break without permission - leaving you and the other employees to bust your butts alone.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Does anyone care that this was an 18 yr old, who almost died? Guess not.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Does anyone care that this was an 18 yr old, who almost died? Guess not.

Apparently not...

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

However, the article really doesn't tell very much. How did she accidentally eat a pepper? And, they might eat in the back or something, I dont' see where there was any indication that she did anything wrong which a lot of you seem to be assuming.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

I feel badly for her but curious how you accidentally eat a bell pepper. They have a very distinctive taste.

Ohfour · Hooker

Mellow Momma wrote:
WYSIWYG wrote:
You can eat at work -- on your designated break and meal periods. No other time. If you do it's time clock fraud and that is also called stealing. When you work in a clothing store, your job is to be on the selling floor, helping people with the merchandise, not eating. You never, ever, ever eat ON the sales floor and you never eat outside of your designated break or meal period. Yes it is strict but it is that way at every retail store I have ever worked at. Some of you who get to nosh all day as you sit at your desk have no idea. You wouldn't last a day at a retail store. Being 10 minutes late to work can get you written up - even if it's the first time and even if you have a great "reason". That's the way it is.
- Mellow Momma

___________________________

It might not necessarily be "time clock fraud" if clocking out for breaks isn't required.

It's been a long time since I worked retail in a store, but the last time I did, we ate or took a break when we had a chance, not "arrive at work, clock in, work 2 hours, take 15 minutes, work 2 hours, take 30 minutes (lunch), work 2 hours, take 15 minutes, work 2 hours, clock out, go home".

To the OP - Where did she get the bell pepper from? The article doesn't mention it. Was it in something she ate? Who provided it?
Eating when you should be working most certainly IS time clock fraud.
And having been in the business all my life I can tell you that there are some stores that do as you described and some that are very strict and punctual about breaks and meals. In both cases though, eating was strictly forbidden unless it was your break or lunch. The fact that the store does not pre schedule the break doesn't mean they are ok with the employee talking it whenever he/she feels like it. You need management approval. Not getting that approval can mean termination. Nothing worse than being really in the weeds and looking around and seeing that an employee has chosen to take a break without permission - leaving you and the other employees to bust your butts alone.

That's not true. Where do you get this stuff?

Ohfour · Hooker

Lexxy wrote:
I feel badly for her but curious how you accidentally eat a bell pepper. They have a very distinctive taste.

Maybe in a meatloaf or on a pizza? She should have known to ask, but sometimes you just don't think about it...

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Does anyone care that this was an 18 yr old, who almost died? Guess not.

Of course.

But here is my counter question.

She's 18, she knows about her deadly allergy, why didn't she ask the right questions before eating whatever it is?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

As usual, we just don't have enough info.

Every library I've worked at has a rule of "No food at the desk," but you can walk back to your work space & eat a granola bar without taking a formal break. We don't know how busy this store was or how many other employees were on the floor when the incident happened.

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

In my jobs, and yes, I have worked in retail clothing stores, yes, eating any time besides your break is against store policy and a firable offense first time, without warning.

And anything not related to the job gets pay docked.

1 minute late costed 15 minutes of pay.

I've also worked in boutique stores where I was the only employee. Didn't get a break.

You peed on the fly.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

Ohfour wrote:
Lexxy wrote:
I feel badly for her but curious how you accidentally eat a bell pepper. They have a very distinctive taste.
Maybe in a meatloaf or on a pizza? She should have known to ask, but sometimes you just don't think about it...

Maybe it is just me because I'm not overly fond of them but I can definitely taste peppers on a pizza. Not so sure about meatloaf.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I clicked on the link in the OP.

Not much more info, except that the employee had an epi pen in her car, but it had expired & she needed to get a new prescription. A male employee had to carry her up the stairs from the back room and get her stuff for her.

flan

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

lilyofcourse wrote:
In my jobs, and yes, I have worked in retail clothing stores, yes, eating any time besides your break is against store policy and a firable offense first time, without warning.

And anything not related to the job gets pay docked.

1 minute late costed 15 minutes of pay.

I've also worked in boutique stores where I was the only employee. Didn't get a break.

You peed on the fly.

Exactly. Eating is not part of your job description. The only thing the law mandates is that employees be given adequate time to use the restroom. Anything outside of using the restroom is time clock fraud. When you steal company time by doing things you are not supposed to be doing - thats a fireable offense. Now some places of business don't have a problems with letting those things slide and that's fine. But most retail places totally DO have an issue with it because your customer is standing in front of you and if you miss that opportunity, you have missed a sale.

Ohfour · Hooker

Mellow Momma wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
In my jobs, and yes, I have worked in retail clothing stores, yes, eating any time besides your break is against store policy and a firable offense first time, without warning.

And anything not related to the job gets pay docked.

1 minute late costed 15 minutes of pay.

I've also worked in boutique stores where I was the only employee. Didn't get a break.

You peed on the fly.

Exactly. Eating is not part of your job description. The only thing the law mandates is that employees be given adequate time to use the restroom. Anything outside of using the restroom is time clock fraud. When you steal company time by doing things you are not supposed to be doing - thats a fireable offense. Now some places of business don't have a problems with letting those things slide and that's fine. But most retail places totally DO have an issue with it because your customer is standing in front of you and if you miss that opportunity, you have missed a sale.

I am so glad I don't work in that world...

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

In one job, we could keep a small bottle of water under the register.

But we couldn't drink in front of customers.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

lilyofcourse wrote:
In one job, we could keep a small bottle of water under the register.

But we couldn't drink in front of customers.

Exactly. NO eating or drinking in front of a customer.

Retail is different than a lot of businesses in that you are facing your customer and your image counts. If you have a desk job, you may never see a customer face to face. I remember a friend of mine getting a job at a car rental company and being indignant that they were not allowed to sit down on the job. She thought it was akin to torture. I had to explain to her that I worked for 25 years before I had a job where I could sit down during work hours.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

FYI - the manager also fired the co-worker who took her to the hospital. This story hardly tells any of it. And most of the other stories say "came into contact with a bell pepper" - it doesn't specify she ate it.

And I don't care if she was eating a pizza while sitting on the floor - you don't text someone they are fired while they are being carted to the hospital.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

The manager also didn't call an ambulance and just walked off after this girl told her she was having a reaction.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
The manager also didn't call an ambulance and just walked off after this girl told her she was having a reaction.

Yes, I forgot to post that.

The article also made the point that the manager would have reacted very differently had this happened to a customer.

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
The manager also didn't call an ambulance and just walked off after this girl told her she was having a reaction.
Yes, I forgot to post that.
The article also made the point that the manager would have reacted very differently had this happened to a customer.
flan

LOL! Sure. I doubt it.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
The manager also didn't call an ambulance and just walked off after this girl told her she was having a reaction.
Yes, I forgot to post that.
The article also made the point that the manager would have reacted very differently had this happened to a customer.
flan
LOL! Sure. I doubt it.

You really think there are people THAT heartless and/or stupid?

Because when I'm shopping, I know that I always hope to see another customer dying in the next aisle...

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

flan327 wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
The manager also didn't call an ambulance and just walked off after this girl told her she was having a reaction.
Yes, I forgot to post that.
The article also made the point that the manager would have reacted very differently had this happened to a customer.
flan
LOL! Sure. I doubt it.
You really think there are people THAT heartless and/or stupid?
Because when I'm shopping, I know that I always hope to see another customer dying in the next aisle...
flan

If she didn't care that her 18 yr old colleague was dying right in front of her, do you really think that this person would notice some random customer in distress? Of course not.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I thought there was some understanding among human beings? That if someone was in a medical emergency, no matter where or who or how, that others standing by would at least have some decency to care enough to call 911 or render some aid. Obviously, we have fallen very far from grace because human beings don't matter anywhere near as much as our smartphones do.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I disagree, LGS.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

She might have disliked the employee for some reason & thought she was faking...

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

flan327 wrote:
I disagree, LGS.

flan

YOu can disagree all you want. Human nature is human nature. Someone who will stand by and ignore someone in anaphylactic shock isn't going to put themselves out for anyone.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I disagree, LGS.

flan
YOu can disagree all you want. Human nature is human nature. Someone who will stand by and ignore someone in anaphylactic shock isn't going to put themselves out for anyone.

An employee is different from a customer.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
The manager also didn't call an ambulance and just walked off after this girl told her she was having a reaction.
Yes, I forgot to post that.
The article also made the point that the manager would have reacted very differently had this happened to a customer.
flan
LOL! Sure. I doubt it.
You really think there are people THAT heartless and/or stupid?
Because when I'm shopping, I know that I always hope to see another customer dying in the next aisle...
flan

This article proves they are. Does it really matter what the girl did? She was having a serious medical emergency that required attention, and the manager did NOTHING.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I disagree, LGS.

flan
YOu can disagree all you want. Human nature is human nature. Someone who will stand by and ignore someone in anaphylactic shock isn't going to put themselves out for anyone.
An employee is different from a customer.
flan

How? They are not both people? This was an 18 year old girl. There is no excuse for this. NONE.

Damn, some of you would be the worst people to work for in the world.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Why? Did I SAY that the MANAGER was right?

An 18-year-old, with a potentially fatal allergy, should never be without a working epi pen.

flan

FNW · Guru

I'm glad the girl survived. As for her firing, that's between her and her employer. I'm tired of social media bullying.

Mary Zombie · Guru

I hope both employees sue the pants off that manager.