TOTALLY GEEKED!

Ohfour · Hooker

RE: Mother Can’t Stop Doctor From Mutilating Autistic Daughter Who Wants To Be a Transgender Boy

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

No, you SAID that a child should eat raw chicken, or some such nonsense.

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
No, you SAID that a child should eat raw chicken, or some such nonsense.

flan

No, I asked if your child asked to do something that is POTENTIALLY dangerous, who are you to say no...right?

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

I'm with Lily& want to know who is paying for the surgery & ongoing hormone treatment. What I really specifically want to know is, are WE paying for this?

Tinydancer · Guru

flan327 wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Or so YOU say...
And YOU have no self-control...
flan

I do have self control which is why I haven't been banned flannie.

apple · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
No, you SAID that a child should eat raw chicken, or some such nonsense.

flan
No, I asked if your child asked to do something that is POTENTIALLY dangerous, who are you to say no...right?

That is the weakest argument I've ever seen you present. Try harder or I will be forced to report you...

Ohfour · Hooker

apple wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
No, you SAID that a child should eat raw chicken, or some such nonsense.

flan
No, I asked if your child asked to do something that is POTENTIALLY dangerous, who are you to say no...right?
That is the weakest argument I've ever seen you present. Try harder or I will be forced to report you...

She's the one that said that the child ASKED for it, so that was different than physical abuse...

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
No, you SAID that a child should eat raw chicken, or some such nonsense.

flan
No, I asked if your child asked to do something that is POTENTIALLY dangerous, who are you to say no...right?

HOW OLD IS MY THEORETICAL CHILD?

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Tinydancer wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Or so YOU say...
And YOU have no self-control...
flan
I do have self control which is why I haven't been banned flannie.

Because I haven't complained to a Mod yet.

flan

Tinydancer · Guru

flan327 wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Or so YOU say...
And YOU have no self-control...
flan
I do have self control which is why I haven't been banned flannie.
Because I haven't complained to a Mod yet.
flan

Go ahead and complain. I have to actually do something bannable to get banned. Not just because you don't like me and can't handle my superior wit...lol

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Cheerios4606 wrote:
dont you sometimes wish you could time travel into the future by 15 years and record an interview with some of these people, and then go back and show them what their future selves say?

No kidding.

I'm forever telling my kids that in 10 years they won't believe the difference in themselves.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

The girl has the mentality of a 9 year old.

How is she getting ANY medical treatments without the mother's permission?

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
No, you SAID that a child should eat raw chicken, or some such nonsense.

flan
No, I asked if your child asked to do something that is POTENTIALLY dangerous, who are you to say no...right?
HOW OLD IS MY THEORETICAL CHILD?
flan

Mentally of a 9 year old....

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
No, you SAID that a child should eat raw chicken, or some such nonsense.

flan
No, I asked if your child asked to do something that is POTENTIALLY dangerous, who are you to say no...right?
HOW OLD IS MY THEORETICAL CHILD?
flan
Mentally of a 9 year old....

That makes a difference, doesn't it?

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Tinydancer wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Or so YOU say...
And YOU have no self-control...
flan
I do have self control which is why I haven't been banned flannie.
Because I haven't complained to a Mod yet.
flan
Go ahead and complain. I have to actually do something bannable to get banned. Not just because you don't like me and can't handle my superior wit...lol

1. It is your BEHAVIOR that I object to.

2. Nope.

flan

Mary Zombie · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
apple wrote:
Mary Zombie wrote:
This mak s me sick. The show I am Jazz makes me sick. The kid is 14 and the mother is all on the bandwagon with surgeries and dangerous hormone treatments. On a
Minor. That kid should be taken away from the parents.

In this case wonder if the mother could try and get guardianship? Maybe not but worth a shot.
I found the show I am Jazz, to be quite enlightening.
This child was acting as a girl from day one, it was heartbreaking for the parents and they went through, and still do go through, a lot of stress and mental anguish over this.

No, it's really kinda sick. "She's" all upset because boys don't want to date 'her". Yeah, honey, you are a dude...

He/She can get the surgeries and hormones when he is an adult. What they're doing is child abuse IMO.

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
No, you SAID that a child should eat raw chicken, or some such nonsense.

flan
No, I asked if your child asked to do something that is POTENTIALLY dangerous, who are you to say no...right?
HOW OLD IS MY THEORETICAL CHILD?
flan
Mentally of a 9 year old....
That makes a difference, doesn't it?
flan

Yet you are OK in this instance??????

Tinydancer · Guru

flan327 wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
Or so YOU say...
And YOU have no self-control...
flan
I do have self control which is why I haven't been banned flannie.
Because I haven't complained to a Mod yet.
flan
Go ahead and complain. I have to actually do something bannable to get banned. Not just because you don't like me and can't handle my superior wit...lol
1. It is your BEHAVIOR that I object to.
2. Nope.
flan

1. I object to YOUR behavior as well but I still don't see how you complaining to a mod would get me banned unless I did something bannable.

2. Yep.

Tinydancer

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Polly AGAIN?

flan

apple · Guru

Mary Zombie wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
apple wrote:
Mary Zombie wrote:
This mak s me sick. The show I am Jazz makes me sick. The kid is 14 and the mother is all on the bandwagon with surgeries and dangerous hormone treatments. On a
Minor. That kid should be taken away from the parents.

In this case wonder if the mother could try and get guardianship? Maybe not but worth a shot.
I found the show I am Jazz, to be quite enlightening.
This child was acting as a girl from day one, it was heartbreaking for the parents and they went through, and still do go through, a lot of stress and mental anguish over this.

No, it's really kinda sick. "She's" all upset because boys don't want to date 'her". Yeah, honey, you are a dude...
He/She can get the surgeries and hormones when he is an adult. What they're doing is child abuse IMO.

Its too late by then. Gosh, do you people know ANYTHING about this? confuse

apple · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
The girl has the mentality of a 9 year old.

How is she getting ANY medical treatments without the mother's permission?

The daughter is an adult., technically.

I don't know what the mother would have to do to have her daughter considered a child forever in the eyes of the law.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

apple wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
The girl has the mentality of a 9 year old.

How is she getting ANY medical treatments without the mother's permission?
The daughter is an adult., technically.
I don't know what the mother would have to do to have her daughter considered a child forever in the eyes of the law.

She would have to have her declared incompetent.

If she is that severe, she has the documentation.

But it still doesn't answer all the questions.

And it doesn't change the fact that it will not help this girl, in the least.

WYSIWYG · Guru

Ok.

The OP is about a mentally challenged daughter being able to get a non life saving medical treatments against her parent's wishes.

Now, if the girl had cancer or continual seizures, I think we might have debate about who should have the right to decide treatment.

But this is not the case.

I have questions.

How old is the girl?

If she is over 18, has mom had the girl declared incompetent?

Who is paying for these treatments?

Who is going to make sure this girl continues the treatments for the rest of her life?

Who will pay for that?

This is about far more than transgenderism.
- lilyofcourse

___________________________________

I had those same questions come to mind when I read the OP

Tinydancer · Guru

flan327 wrote:
Polly AGAIN?

flan

Don't like hearing yourself flannie?

Tinydancer

Tinydancer · Guru

apple wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
The girl has the mentality of a 9 year old.

How is she getting ANY medical treatments without the mother's permission?
The daughter is an adult., technically.
I don't know what the mother would have to do to have her daughter considered a child forever in the eyes of the law.

So if she thought she was a unicorn and wanted to have a horn surgically implanted we should go along because she's technically an adult and should get to choose? Because that's what my nine year old niece would love to be but luckily she's not technically an adult.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Tinydancer wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Polly AGAIN?

flan
Don't like hearing yourself flannie?
Tinydancer

This is your first post of the day!

I'm fine hearing myself. The question is: WHY can't you think for yourself?

flan

Tinydancer · Guru

I ask the same thing about you flannie. I'm glad you're checking for my first post. Can't wait for me to show up every day?

Tinydancer

Mary Zombie · Guru

I'm sure it's different by state but in my experience it wasn't that difficult to get guardianship of my parents. They didn't even have to appear before the judge. They had dementia which I know is different but still.
I'm really surprised the mother doesn't have guardianship.
If she gets the surgery I would probably release the doctors name to every newspaper and photos of him as well. It's disgusting

Mary Zombie · Guru

And how is another example of technology being a blessing and a curse. Many years ago if someone had a gender identity issue and surgery wasn't even an option, they seemed to deal with it.
To many choices out there now IMO

Ohfour · Hooker

Mary Zombie wrote:
I'm sure it's different by state but in my experience it wasn't that difficult to get guardianship of my parents. They didn't even have to appear before the judge. They had dementia which I know is different but still.
I'm really surprised the mother doesn't have guardianship.
If she gets the surgery I would probably release the doctors name to every newspaper and photos of him as well. It's disgusting

Yep.

Ohfour · Hooker

Don't you know? Gender dysphoria is the celebre du jour right now. If you aren't having some effed up mental crisis, you are the strange one!

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
Don't you know? Gender dysphoria is the celebre du jour right now. If you aren't having some effed up mental crisis, you are the strange one!

I am touched by your compassion.

flan

Tinydancer · Guru

She's just stating the truth. Maybe you should pull your head out of the sand...

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I just finished watching "Spotlight."

When I read remarks like that, I am reminded of those good Boston citizens who kept their mouths shut for years & years.

It's not a perfect analogy, but certain elements ARE the same. If something makes you uncomfortable, just sweep it under the rust & pretend it doesn't exist.

flan

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Lexxy wrote:
I'm with Lily& want to know who is paying for the surgery & ongoing hormone treatment. What I really specifically want to know is, are WE paying for this?

I figured that was a rhetorical question because we all know who is paying. You and I!

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
I just finished watching "Spotlight."

When I read remarks like that, I am reminded of those good Boston citizens who kept their mouths shut for years & years.

It's not a perfect analogy, but certain elements ARE the same. If something makes you uncomfortable, just sweep it under the rust & pretend it doesn't exist.

flan

Oh, BS. Spotlight was about priests hurting others. This is about mental illness that the left wants to make normal.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

When DD was 4, she crawled around pretending to be a cat to the point of licking me, when she was 5 she was a princess, dressed a lot like a princess, made her change her clothes when we went out. At 6 she was a dog, going as far as staying in the dog crate, at 7 she grew out of the animal thing and moved on chemistry experiments, I hid all the dangerous cleaners/chemicals, at 8 she became obsessed with video games, I limited those, she became a reader of books. You can see where this post is going. To allow a child, a minor at that, with a mental capacity of a 9 YO to make such a life changing decision is beyond irresponsible, it should be criminal.

FNW · Guru

I agree with IKWTDS.

My former MIL allowed her tween son (my ex) to spend copious amounts of time with his boss, who was a convicted pedophile. Time included trips to Catalina Island on his boat. She told me, "I let him make his own decisions." I thought that was horrible.

-- Edited by FNW on Friday 1st of July 2016 04:21:41 PM

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I just finished watching "Spotlight."

When I read remarks like that, I am reminded of those good Boston citizens who kept their mouths shut for years & years.

It's not a perfect analogy, but certain elements ARE the same. If something makes you uncomfortable, just sweep it under the rust & pretend it doesn't exist.

flan
Oh, BS. Spotlight was about priests hurting others. This is about mental illness that the left wants to make normal.

I don't even know where to start.

Tell me, do Conservatives threaten their kids with "the Left" instead of the boogeyman?

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
I just finished watching "Spotlight."

When I read remarks like that, I am reminded of those good Boston citizens who kept their mouths shut for years & years.

It's not a perfect analogy, but certain elements ARE the same. If something makes you uncomfortable, just sweep it under the rust & pretend it doesn't exist.

flan
Oh, BS. Spotlight was about priests hurting others. This is about mental illness that the left wants to make normal.
I don't even know where to start.
Tell me, do Conservatives threaten their kids with "the Left" instead of the boogeyman?
flan

Don't have to. They learn early...

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

I would totally believe you're a master at brainwashing...

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
I would totally believe you're a master at brainwashing...

flan

Hey, I was a liberal while they were growing up. They had a lot to do with me becoming a Conservative.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Yeah, you keep telling us that.

I was raised by Conservative parents.

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Going through the transgender process isn't something that happens quickly.

There is a long process of mental and medical screenings and preparations before the actual treatments begin.

And once the treatments start, they can't just be stopped without physical withdrawals.

The hormone imbalance that is caused by stopping the treatment can become downright life threatening.

I wonder if this girl would be considered a reliable witness in a court of law. If not, how can she be a reliable representative for herself?

There is so much wrong with this.

Forget the transgender thing and just think about the things this girl is going to have to endure.

She has the functionality of a 9 year old.

How can she possibly understand the life long implications?

I think this is not only abuse but criminal.

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
Yeah, you keep telling us that.

I was raised by Conservative parents.

flan

That you had no relationship with. Maybe your liberalism is rebellion? Cause I can't imagine another reason. ..

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Yeah, you keep telling us that.

I was raised by Conservative parents.

flan
That you had no relationship with. Maybe your liberalism is rebellion? Cause I can't imagine another reason. ..

What EXACTLY does that mean?

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Yeah, you keep telling us that.

I was raised by Conservative parents.

flan
That you had no relationship with. Maybe your liberalism is rebellion? Cause I can't imagine another reason. ..
What EXACTLY does that mean?
flan

You've often spoke of your non relationship with your parents.

cadiver · Senior Member

more of the story:

www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/06/29/hold-mother-cant-stop-doctor-from-mutilating-autistic-daughter-who-wants-to-be-a-boy/

Quick details:
Mothers insurance is paying
They had their daughter emancipated while she was a minor
The mother also believes there is an overlap between transgender and autism

Actually its the same link, but is longer then the OP.

-- Edited by cadiver on Friday 1st of July 2016 06:52:46 PM

Ohfour · Hooker

If she was emancipated, why is she still in her mother's insurance? That makes no sense...

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

Ohfour wrote:
If she was emancipated, why is she still in her mother's insurance? That makes no sense...

Because of O-Care. Just because she was emancipated doesn't mean she doesn't qualify on her Mom's Health insurance. Not cracking one way or the other - this is one part of O-Care i agree with but in this case it would piss me off royaly that my health care paid for a procedure I didn't approve of. On the other hand she should NEVER HAVE emancipated her daughter if she truly has the mentality of a 9-yo. Parent fail here.