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Ohfour · Hooker

Concealed Carrier Prevents Mass Shooting at SC Nightclub

Ohfour · Hooker

Hmmm...didn't hear about this from the anti gun libs, did you?

FNW · Guru

Good for that last victim! He's a hero!

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Similar to an incident at a Walmart parking lot in Maine the other day. Two armed bystanders stopped gang gun fight.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
Hmmm...didn't hear about this from the anti gun libs, did you?

Yeah, just like we're "pro-death..."

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Hmmm...didn't hear about this from the anti gun libs, did you?
Yeah, just like we're "pro-death..."
flan

You have said that you don't think guns should be concealed carry.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Hmmm...didn't hear about this from the anti gun libs, did you?
Yeah, just like we're "pro-death..."
flan
You have said that you don't think guns should be concealed carry.

Then you used the wrong phrase.

flan

Tinydancer · Guru

If you think abortion is ok then yes you are pro death.

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Hmmm...didn't hear about this from the anti gun libs, did you?
Yeah, just like we're "pro-death..."
flan
You have said that you don't think guns should be concealed carry.
Then you used the wrong phrase.
flan

You do not think that people should be able to carry guns in public, just have them at home (if even that). That is anti gun...

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Good. Glad to see this story.

And the Walmart thing.

Taking guns away from law abiding citizens will never stop violence.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

And he shot him in the leg.

In a pressure situation.

After havin a drink.

That's pretty awesome shooting.

apple · Guru

Its great that this man was stopped from killing more people.
I thought a "mass shooting" was killing 4 or more?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Hmmm...didn't hear about this from the anti gun libs, did you?
Yeah, just like we're "pro-death..."
flan
You have said that you don't think guns should be concealed carry.
Then you used the wrong phrase.
flan
You do not think that people should be able to carry guns in public, just have them at home (if even that). That is anti gun...

Nope. Stop twisting my words.

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

apple wrote:
Its great that this man was stopped from killing more people.
I thought a "mass shooting" was killing 4 or more?

And if he had been allowed to continue, there most likely WOULD have been a mass shooting. The CCP holder prevented that from happening...

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Tinydancer wrote:
If you think abortion is ok then yes you are pro death.

Nope. Try again.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
apple wrote:
Its great that this man was stopped from killing more people.
I thought a "mass shooting" was killing 4 or more?
And if he had been allowed to continue, there most likely WOULD have been a mass shooting. The CCP holder prevented that from happening...

And that's good news. BUT, the problem is, when a wanna-be hero starts shooting after too many drinks & kills an innocent bystander.

flan

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Ohfour wrote:
apple wrote:
Its great that this man was stopped from killing more people.
I thought a "mass shooting" was killing 4 or more?
And if he had been allowed to continue, there most likely WOULD have been a mass shooting. The CCP holder prevented that from happening...

Apparently it's better to just let the bad guy kill as many as possible than stop it.

I mean, let's focus on the wording and definitions inside of the fact that a law abiding citizen stopped a possible mass murder with a concealed weapon.

FNW · Guru

flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
apple wrote:
Its great that this man was stopped from killing more people.
I thought a "mass shooting" was killing 4 or more?
And if he had been allowed to continue, there most likely WOULD have been a mass shooting. The CCP holder prevented that from happening...
And that's good news. BUT, the problem is, when a wanna-be hero starts shooting after too many drinks & kills an innocent bystander.
flan

The innocent bystander would have been shot anyway, by the active shooter. The odds are better they'd survive if Bubba was packing.

Ohfour · Hooker

lilyofcourse wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
apple wrote:
Its great that this man was stopped from killing more people.
I thought a "mass shooting" was killing 4 or more?
And if he had been allowed to continue, there most likely WOULD have been a mass shooting. The CCP holder prevented that from happening...
Apparently it's better to just let the bad guy kill as many as possible than stop it.
I mean, let's focus on the wording and definitions inside of the fact that a law abiding citizen stopped a possible mass murder with a concealed weapon.

Right??? LOL!

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
apple wrote:
Its great that this man was stopped from killing more people.
I thought a "mass shooting" was killing 4 or more?
And if he had been allowed to continue, there most likely WOULD have been a mass shooting. The CCP holder prevented that from happening...
And that's good news. BUT, the problem is, when a wanna-be hero starts shooting after too many drinks & kills an innocent bystander.
flan

So it's better for the innocent bystander to be shot by a mass shooter than someone trying to protect the masses...got it!

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
If you think abortion is ok then yes you are pro death.
Nope. Try again.
flan

And you are welcome to your opinion...

Tinydancer · Guru

flan327 wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
If you think abortion is ok then yes you are pro death.
Nope. Try again.
flan

It's my opinion. I don't have to try again.

apple · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
apple wrote:
Its great that this man was stopped from killing more people.
I thought a "mass shooting" was killing 4 or more?
And if he had been allowed to continue, there most likely WOULD have been a mass shooting. The CCP holder prevented that from happening...

Well, not actually that is a guess or assumption and not a fact.

I am glad he stopped the shooter of course. I honestly don't think that just because you have a weapon it means you know how to use it in a situation like that.

Its possible that the hero could miss and kill someone, I mean if we are going to go on guesses and assumptions, this is a valid point.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

lilyofcourse wrote:
And he shot him in the leg.

In a pressure situation.

After havin a drink.

That's pretty awesome shooting.

I like that he shot him in the leg. It shows he was trying to stop the craziness but he didn't take a kill shot. That's the kind of person who should have a carry permit.

FNW · Guru

Sure, he could miss and hit someone else. But if didn't have a gun, the shooter would not have been stopped. And if not stopped, more people would have died. It's a matter of which is worse.

Even when administering CPR, you need to crack a rib to save a life. So which is worse? Remain unresponsive and die, or live and fix your rib.

apple · Guru

Lexxy wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
And he shot him in the leg.

In a pressure situation.

After havin a drink.

That's pretty awesome shooting.

I like that he shot him in the leg. It shows he was trying to stop the craziness but he didn't take a kill shot. That's the kind of person who should have a carry permit.

He was aiming for his chest, or he should have been.

Tinydancer · Guru

So you can't carry unless you're willing to kill someone and not just stop them? This guy absolutely did the right thing. I'll never understand the sitting duck mentality that gets displayed here.

apple · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
So you can't carry unless you're willing to kill someone and not just stop them? This guy absolutely did the right thing. I'll never understand the sitting duck mentality that gets displayed here.

...it is proper protocol to aim for the chest. Anyone trained in the proper use of a firearm would know this. confuse

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

apple wrote:
Lexxy wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
And he shot him in the leg.

In a pressure situation.

After havin a drink.

That's pretty awesome shooting.

I like that he shot him in the leg. It shows he was trying to stop the craziness but he didn't take a kill shot. That's the kind of person who should have a carry permit.
He was aiming for his chest, or he should have been.

I doubt he was aiming for his chest. He was just trying to stop him not kill him.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

apple wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
So you can't carry unless you're willing to kill someone and not just stop them? This guy absolutely did the right thing. I'll never understand the sitting duck mentality that gets displayed here.
...it is proper protocol to aim for the chest. Anyone trained in the proper use of a firearm would know this.

That should be changed then. If others had aimed for the leg instead of the chest the country would be in far less turmoil.

apple · Guru

Lexxy wrote:
apple wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
So you can't carry unless you're willing to kill someone and not just stop them? This guy absolutely did the right thing. I'll never understand the sitting duck mentality that gets displayed here.
...it is proper protocol to aim for the chest. Anyone trained in the proper use of a firearm would know this.
That should be changed then. If others had aimed for the leg instead of the chest the country would be in far less turmoil.

It is the safest way to shoot someone.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
apple wrote:
Its great that this man was stopped from killing more people.
I thought a "mass shooting" was killing 4 or more?
And if he had been allowed to continue, there most likely WOULD have been a mass shooting. The CCP holder prevented that from happening...
And that's good news. BUT, the problem is, when a wanna-be hero starts shooting after too many drinks & kills an innocent bystander.
flan
So it's better for the innocent bystander to be shot by a mass shooter than someone trying to protect the masses...got it!

Quote me.

flan

Tinydancer · Guru

apple wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
So you can't carry unless you're willing to kill someone and not just stop them? This guy absolutely did the right thing. I'll never understand the sitting duck mentality that gets displayed here.
...it is proper protocol to aim for the chest. Anyone trained in the proper use of a firearm would know this.

I'm sure he knew the protocol he just decided to use less than lethal force. Some people don't WANT to kill and I bet if the shooter had continued then a shot to the chest or head would have been in order.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lexxy wrote:
apple wrote:
Lexxy wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
And he shot him in the leg.

In a pressure situation.

After havin a drink.

That's pretty awesome shooting.

I like that he shot him in the leg. It shows he was trying to stop the craziness but he didn't take a kill shot. That's the kind of person who should have a carry permit.
He was aiming for his chest, or he should have been.
I doubt he was aiming for his chest. He was just trying to stop him not kill him.

On an earlier thread, the advice was given to aim for the area of greatest mass.

I'm not an LEO, so I don't know.

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
apple wrote:
Its great that this man was stopped from killing more people.
I thought a "mass shooting" was killing 4 or more?
And if he had been allowed to continue, there most likely WOULD have been a mass shooting. The CCP holder prevented that from happening...
And that's good news. BUT, the problem is, when a wanna-be hero starts shooting after too many drinks & kills an innocent bystander.
flan
So it's better for the innocent bystander to be shot by a mass shooter than someone trying to protect the masses...got it!
Quote me.
flan

And that's good news. BUT, the problem is, when a wanna-be hero starts shooting after too many drinks & kills an innocent bystander.

Here ya go! There is not another way to interpret that...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Thursday 30th of June 2016 12:56:23 PM

Tinydancer · Guru

If you can only shoot to kill then you shouldn't be carrying a gun. Using your discretion as to whether a kill shot or a less lethal shot is needed was part of my training so I don't know why you think only shooting to kill is an option.

apple · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
apple wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
So you can't carry unless you're willing to kill someone and not just stop them? This guy absolutely did the right thing. I'll never understand the sitting duck mentality that gets displayed here.
...it is proper protocol to aim for the chest. Anyone trained in the proper use of a firearm would know this.
I'm sure he knew the protocol he just decided to use less than lethal force. Some people don't WANT to kill and I bet if the shooter had continued then a shot to the chest or head would have been in order.

umm ya sure.

Ohfour · Hooker

apple wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
apple wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
So you can't carry unless you're willing to kill someone and not just stop them? This guy absolutely did the right thing. I'll never understand the sitting duck mentality that gets displayed here.
...it is proper protocol to aim for the chest. Anyone trained in the proper use of a firearm would know this.
I'm sure he knew the protocol he just decided to use less than lethal force. Some people don't WANT to kill and I bet if the shooter had continued then a shot to the chest or head would have been in order.
umm ya sure.

He's still a hero, whether you want to knock him or not...

apple · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
apple wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
apple wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
So you can't carry unless you're willing to kill someone and not just stop them? This guy absolutely did the right thing. I'll never understand the sitting duck mentality that gets displayed here.
...it is proper protocol to aim for the chest. Anyone trained in the proper use of a firearm would know this.
I'm sure he knew the protocol he just decided to use less than lethal force. Some people don't WANT to kill and I bet if the shooter had continued then a shot to the chest or head would have been in order.
umm ya sure.
He's still a hero, whether you want to knock him or not...

I was not knocking him. I was saying if he was following proper protocol, he would have been aiming for the shooters chest. I doubt he was aiming for the shooters leg. That is all.

Tinydancer · Guru

apple wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
apple wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
So you can't carry unless you're willing to kill someone and not just stop them? This guy absolutely did the right thing. I'll never understand the sitting duck mentality that gets displayed here.
...it is proper protocol to aim for the chest. Anyone trained in the proper use of a firearm would know this.
I'm sure he knew the protocol he just decided to use less than lethal force. Some people don't WANT to kill and I bet if the shooter had continued then a shot to the chest or head would have been in order.
umm ya sure.

Haha..So you think his only option was a kill shot? Obviously he stopped the shooter with a less than lethal shot but it doesn't fit YOUR agenda.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

apple wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
apple wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
apple wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
So you can't carry unless you're willing to kill someone and not just stop them? This guy absolutely did the right thing. I'll never understand the sitting duck mentality that gets displayed here.
...it is proper protocol to aim for the chest. Anyone trained in the proper use of a firearm would know this.
I'm sure he knew the protocol he just decided to use less than lethal force. Some people don't WANT to kill and I bet if the shooter had continued then a shot to the chest or head would have been in order.
umm ya sure.
He's still a hero, whether you want to knock him or not...
I was not knocking him. I was saying if he was following proper protocol, he would have been aiming for the shooters chest. I doubt he was aiming for the shooters leg. That is all.

Why not? Gangsters always go for the knee caps biggrin

Ohfour · Hooker

apple wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
apple wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
apple wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
So you can't carry unless you're willing to kill someone and not just stop them? This guy absolutely did the right thing. I'll never understand the sitting duck mentality that gets displayed here.
...it is proper protocol to aim for the chest. Anyone trained in the proper use of a firearm would know this.
I'm sure he knew the protocol he just decided to use less than lethal force. Some people don't WANT to kill and I bet if the shooter had continued then a shot to the chest or head would have been in order.
umm ya sure.
He's still a hero, whether you want to knock him or not...
I was not knocking him. I was saying if he was following proper protocol, he would have been aiming for the shooters chest. I doubt he was aiming for the shooters leg. That is all.

You don't know that he didn't.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

apple wrote:
Lexxy wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
And he shot him in the leg.

In a pressure situation.

After havin a drink.

That's pretty awesome shooting.

I like that he shot him in the leg. It shows he was trying to stop the craziness but he didn't take a kill shot. That's the kind of person who should have a carry permit.
He was aiming for his chest, or he should have been.

The shooter was stopped and can stand trial for his crimes.

It's practically the perfect ending.

You amaze me.

First you say no concealed weapons.

Then you say he should have killed the criminal.

If it wasn't for the concealed weapon, the shooter would have shot how many people?

And then you would be saying how evil guns are and no one should be carrying.

What exactly do you want?

apple · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
apple wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
apple wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
apple wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
So you can't carry unless you're willing to kill someone and not just stop them? This guy absolutely did the right thing. I'll never understand the sitting duck mentality that gets displayed here.
...it is proper protocol to aim for the chest. Anyone trained in the proper use of a firearm would know this.
I'm sure he knew the protocol he just decided to use less than lethal force. Some people don't WANT to kill and I bet if the shooter had continued then a shot to the chest or head would have been in order.
umm ya sure.
He's still a hero, whether you want to knock him or not...
I was not knocking him. I was saying if he was following proper protocol, he would have been aiming for the shooters chest. I doubt he was aiming for the shooters leg. That is all.

You don't know that he didn't.

AND you don't know that he did. If he was properly trained, he would aim for the greatest body mass, the chest. Funny how you forget these things.....

Ohfour · Hooker

apple wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
apple wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
apple wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
apple wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
So you can't carry unless you're willing to kill someone and not just stop them? This guy absolutely did the right thing. I'll never understand the sitting duck mentality that gets displayed here.
...it is proper protocol to aim for the chest. Anyone trained in the proper use of a firearm would know this.
I'm sure he knew the protocol he just decided to use less than lethal force. Some people don't WANT to kill and I bet if the shooter had continued then a shot to the chest or head would have been in order.
umm ya sure.
He's still a hero, whether you want to knock him or not...
I was not knocking him. I was saying if he was following proper protocol, he would have been aiming for the shooters chest. I doubt he was aiming for the shooters leg. That is all.

You don't know that he didn't.
AND you don't know that he did. If he was properly trained, he would aim for the greatest body mass, the chest. Funny how you forget these things.....

Yeah, and if someone is running...or, um falling down, or hell, tripped on a shoelace, you don't hit that mass. It's not a Science. You know...moving target??? hmm hmm hmm

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

apple wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
So you can't carry unless you're willing to kill someone and not just stop them? This guy absolutely did the right thing. I'll never understand the sitting duck mentality that gets displayed here.
...it is proper protocol to aim for the chest. Anyone trained in the proper use of a firearm would know this.

Yes.

You aim at the center mass.

But wasn't it you saying how hard it would be to aim and hit a moving target in a stress situation and that anyone drinking would be a terrible shot?

Yet, here is proof of the exact opposite.

You just dont want anyone to have a gun but the police.

Tinydancer · Guru

I was trained in non lethal shots as well so I'm thinking you got some pretty poor training if the only thing they showed you was lethal shots.

Ohfour · Hooker

Tinydancer wrote:
I was trained in non lethal shots as well so I'm thinking you got some pretty poor training if the only thing they showed you was lethal shots.

She's doesn't have any training...just what she reads in the Liberal media...

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
apple wrote:
Its great that this man was stopped from killing more people.
I thought a "mass shooting" was killing 4 or more?
And if he had been allowed to continue, there most likely WOULD have been a mass shooting. The CCP holder prevented that from happening...
And that's good news. BUT, the problem is, when a wanna-be hero starts shooting after too many drinks & kills an innocent bystander.
flan
So it's better for the innocent bystander to be shot by a mass shooter than someone trying to protect the masses...got it!
Quote me.
flan
And that's good news. BUT, the problem is, when a wanna-be hero starts shooting after too many drinks & kills an innocent bystander.
Here ya go! There is not another way to interpret that...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Thursday 30th of June 2016 12:56:23 PM

Here ya go!

If someone is KILLED, I'm sure it really matters to their surviving family if they were killed by a wanna-be hero OR a mass shooter.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
I was trained in non lethal shots as well so I'm thinking you got some pretty poor training if the only thing they showed you was lethal shots.
She's doesn't have any training...just what she reads in the Liberal media...

And you KNOW that how?

flan