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Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

RE: Christian Mingle Ordered To Accept Gay Singles

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
So.

You go to a Italian restaurant and expect hibachi?

You put sugar on your fruit and are surprised it isn't salt?

You buy shoes and are offended when it isn't a hat?

The site is a Christian site.

Not a single place in the Bible will you find a single verse supporting homosexual behavior.

And God will remove the desire for the same sex from a truly repented person that truly wants to follow Jesus and be His disciple.
Well, Christians do sin Lilly. You dont' lose your salvation. However, i am sure we can have quite a lengthy dialogue on that!

Yes. Christians do sin.

I'm not saying they dont.

What is am saying is, you can not consciously sin and still be a Christian.

And God DOES take desires from us.

Of course we have to do our part.

Refraining from sin is not simple or easy.

If it were, we would all be doing it.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Look.

This is my belief.

I'm not going to argue about it.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
So.

You go to a Italian restaurant and expect hibachi?

You put sugar on your fruit and are surprised it isn't salt?

You buy shoes and are offended when it isn't a hat?

The site is a Christian site.

Not a single place in the Bible will you find a single verse supporting homosexual behavior.

And God will remove the desire for the same sex from a truly repented person that truly wants to follow Jesus and be His disciple.
Well, Christians do sin Lilly. You dont' lose your salvation. However, i am sure we can have quite a lengthy dialogue on that!
Yes. Christians do sin.
I'm not saying they dont.
What is am saying is, you can not consciously sin and still be a Christian.

And God DOES take desires from us.
Of course we have to do our part.
Refraining from sin is not simple or easy.
If it were, we would all be doing it.

Yes, you can consciously sin. Peter consciously DENIED Jesus Christ. Sheesh.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

God doesn't take away your desires. Instead God said that if there is a temptation, that He will provide a way out. You are still tempted. I really don't understand your theology sometimes.

apple · Guru

It is my belief that God has a tender place in His heart for those who struggle with these issues in their own lives and who have a desire to serve and love Him.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
Look.

This is my belief.

I'm not going to argue about it.

Well, your belief is irrelevant. What matters is what does the Bible SAY?

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
So.

You go to a Italian restaurant and expect hibachi?

You put sugar on your fruit and are surprised it isn't salt?

You buy shoes and are offended when it isn't a hat?

The site is a Christian site.

Not a single place in the Bible will you find a single verse supporting homosexual behavior.

And God will remove the desire for the same sex from a truly repented person that truly wants to follow Jesus and be His disciple.
Well, Christians do sin Lilly. You dont' lose your salvation. However, i am sure we can have quite a lengthy dialogue on that!
Yes. Christians do sin.
I'm not saying they dont.
What is am saying is, you can not consciously sin and still be a Christian.

And God DOES take desires from us.
Of course we have to do our part.
Refraining from sin is not simple or easy.
If it were, we would all be doing it.
Yes, you can consciously sin. Peter consciously DENIED Jesus Christ. Sheesh.

You're not understanding me.

I'm talking about ongoing, continual sin.

apple · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Look.

This is my belief.

I'm not going to argue about it.

Well, your belief is irrelevant. What matters is what does the Bible SAY?

That depends on who you ask, doesn't it?

You have your beliefs and I have mine, and lily has hers. biggrin I don't accept your judgement of me and my beliefs, I need not. I am quite secure in my own beliefs.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Look.

This is my belief.

I'm not going to argue about it.

Well, your belief is irrelevant. What matters is what does the Bible SAY?

And it is in the Bible.

Again.

There isn't a single verse in the Bible that supports homosexual behavior in any shape, form or fashion.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

OK. I do know what you mean. If you consciously and continually and flagrantly engage in sin while professing to be a Christian.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Look.

This is my belief.

I'm not going to argue about it.

Well, your belief is irrelevant. What matters is what does the Bible SAY?
And it is in the Bible.
Again.
There isn't a single verse in the Bible that supports homosexual behavior in any shape, form or fashion.

I concur.

apple · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Look.

This is my belief.

I'm not going to argue about it.

Well, your belief is irrelevant. What matters is what does the Bible SAY?
And it is in the Bible.
Again.
There isn't a single verse in the Bible that supports homosexual behavior in any shape, form or fashion.

In the same passages where gay sex is condemned and punished, so is eating shrimp, crop co-mingling, eating rabbit, wearing linen and wool at the same time, and eating raw meat. So if you’re gonna be a Biblical literalist, you might as well start sewing your own clothes and becoming a vegetarian. biggrin

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

You don't have a clue Apple.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Nobody Just Nobody wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
So.

You go to a Italian restaurant and expect hibachi?

You put sugar on your fruit and are surprised it isn't salt?

You buy shoes and are offended when it isn't a hat?

The site is a Christian site.

Not a single place in the Bible will you find a single verse supporting homosexual behavior.

And God will remove the desire for the same sex from a truly repented person that truly wants to follow Jesus and be His disciple.
This is a load of crap quite frankly. To say would be like saying that if you're a drug addict and you repent God will remove all your desire for drugs. Or booze. Or women. Or gambling. You can follow God and trust in Him and believe in Him and do everything "right" and still have the desires.
I think it is crap too. I think we all have certain propensities to certain sins. For instance, i could go and gamble and gamble but it isn't something that holds any appeal for me. So, that isn't likely to be a sin that affects my life. However, you may not be affected by gambling, but maybe you are predisposed to pride or gluttony or sloth or some sexual sin. You have a DESIRE for that. So, yes, God can help you to manage those desires in a Godly way and to be a Godly person in learning how to live as God wants you too. Doesn't mean you aren't still tempted at times.

ITA LGS. Desires don't just disappear. If they did following Christ would be easy. I'm a Christian, now I'm perfect. It doesn't work like that. We are constantly tempted. God says to turn to him for strength.

apple · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
You don't have a clue Apple.

The bible is much like the internet, you can go to it to find passages that agree with your own predilection.

If you wish to use the bible to be hateful, I fear that in itself is wrong. Gay people are first and foremost human beings, and they, like other human beings can be very religious and dare I say Christian.

Did your Jesus hate anyone the way you hate gays? I find it sad that people use something meant to be so good, with such bad intentions.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

apple wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Look.

This is my belief.

I'm not going to argue about it.

Well, your belief is irrelevant. What matters is what does the Bible SAY?
And it is in the Bible.
Again.
There isn't a single verse in the Bible that supports homosexual behavior in any shape, form or fashion.

In the same passages where gay sex is condemned and punished, so is eating shrimp, crop co-mingling, eating rabbit, wearing linen and wool at the same time, and eating raw meat. So if you’re gonna be a Biblical literalist, you might as well start sewing your own clothes and becoming a vegetarian.

And later, that was was changed.

Old covenant vs new covenant.

Food, preparation of food, hygiene, clothing, seeking forgiveness all changed when Jesus died on the cross and conquered death.

Except homosexual sin.

It was never supported in any way.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

apple wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
You don't have a clue Apple.
The bible is much like the internet, you can go to it to find passages that agree with your own predilection.
If you wish to use the bible to be hateful, I fear that in itself is wrong. Gay people are first and foremost human beings, and they, like other human beings can be very religious and dare I say Christian.
Did your Jesus hate anyone the way you hate gays? I find it sad that people use something meant to be so good, with such bad intentions.

It's nothing like the internet. That is a lie. You wish it were so you can pick and choose or cast aspersions. The Bible can be understood when it is studied and read in context and in it's entirety. You seem to have a poor understanding.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

apple wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
You don't have a clue Apple.
The bible is much like the internet, you can go to it to find passages that agree with your own predilection.
If you wish to use the bible to be hateful, I fear that in itself is wrong. Gay people are first and foremost human beings, and they, like other human beings can be very religious and dare I say Christian.
Did your Jesus hate anyone the way you hate gays? I find it sad that people use something meant to be so good, with such bad intentions.

And there it is.

So tell me, do you hate Christians?

Cause, apparently, if someone disagrees they hate.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

apple wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
You don't have a clue Apple.
The bible is much like the internet, you can go to it to find passages that agree with your own predilection.
If you wish to use the bible to be hateful, I fear that in itself is wrong. Gay people are first and foremost human beings, and they, like other human beings can be very religious and dare I say Christian.
Did your Jesus hate anyone the way you hate gays? I find it sad that people use something meant to be so good, with such bad intentions.

Where do you get this we "hate gays" baloney? It's like talking to a 5 yr old. When you try to keep your children on the right path in life, that is love. It isn't "hate" for me to not let my kid stick his hand on the hot stove. It isn't hate to stand up and say what is right and wrong. The ones who are obsessed with HATE is the LEFT. That's all they talk about. If you disagree you are a HATER, blah, blah. As i said, it's like talking to 5 yr olds.

apple · Guru

Oh I must be mistaken, you love gays.

My bad?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Well, I for one can love someone and not agree with everything they do or think. If you can't, i can't help you.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

apple wrote:
Oh I must be mistaken, you love gays.

My bad?

Yes. I do. I know several.

My absolute best friend is gay. Have known him since we were children.

Our families know each other.

I love him more than I can express.

But he also knows how I feel about his sexuality.

I can love the sinner and hate the sin.

I also love other sinners.

But I hate their sins.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Again it's a very childish position. YOu can love your adult child and not agree that he lives with his girlfriend. You can love your friend and not agree with her using drugs or stealing at work. And, on and on. The Left seems to confuse Love with approval of everything someone does. Which is actually the most shallow form of love there is.

Ohfour · Hooker

apple wrote:
Oh I must be mistaken, you love gays.

My bad?

I love several gays...and yet they know my position.

Im not a hypocrite.

apple · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Again it's a very childish position. YOu can love your adult child and not agree that he lives with his girlfriend. You can love your friend and not agree with her using drugs or stealing at work. And, on and on. The Left seems to confuse Love with approval of everything someone does. Which is actually the most shallow form of love there is.

What is childish is judging gays, excluding them and expecting them to be okay with that. Its not exactly and act of love or endearment is it?

You can't love someone and sit back and judge them and put yourself above them and call it love. Who do you think you are fooling?

apple · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
apple wrote:
Oh I must be mistaken, you love gays.

My bad?
I love several gays...and yet they know my position.
Im not a hypocrite.

You love them but you kindly let them know they will burn in hell based on your beliefs? just asking.... confuse

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

If your child stepped in front of a train, would you just say 'oh, that's OK honey, i know you like trains".

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

apple wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Again it's a very childish position. YOu can love your adult child and not agree that he lives with his girlfriend. You can love your friend and not agree with her using drugs or stealing at work. And, on and on. The Left seems to confuse Love with approval of everything someone does. Which is actually the most shallow form of love there is.
What is childish is judging gays, excluding them and expecting them to be okay with that. Its not exactly and act of love or endearment is it?
You can't love someone and sit back and judge them and put yourself above them and call it love. Who do you think you are fooling?

I am not trying to fool anybody. I don't have to condone anyone's lifestyle when it is sinful, wrong or immoral.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Apple, it's plain to see the objective of your posts is to argue, not discuss.

Once you begin calling names and accusing others of hating, you've run out of legitimate points.

Have a wonderful evening.

FNW · Guru

And it was so peaceful for awhile....

Ohfour · Hooker

apple wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
apple wrote:
Oh I must be mistaken, you love gays.

My bad?
I love several gays...and yet they know my position.
Im not a hypocrite.
You love them but you kindly let them know they will burn in hell based on your beliefs? just asking....

Yep. They know my beliefs. And they know I love them. My BIL is gay. And he comes to stay with us several times a year. We text daily.

I know its hard for your mind to comprehend, but disagreeing doesnt mean I hate them....

Ohfour · Hooker

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
apple wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Again it's a very childish position. YOu can love your adult child and not agree that he lives with his girlfriend. You can love your friend and not agree with her using drugs or stealing at work. And, on and on. The Left seems to confuse Love with approval of everything someone does. Which is actually the most shallow form of love there is.
What is childish is judging gays, excluding them and expecting them to be okay with that. Its not exactly and act of love or endearment is it?
You can't love someone and sit back and judge them and put yourself above them and call it love. Who do you think you are fooling?

I am not trying to fool anybody. I don't have to condone anyone's lifestyle when it is sinful, wrong or immoral.

I posted this a few weeks back. DS was coming to spend the weekend. He wanted to bring his GF. I told him fine, but one would have to sleep in the bonus room. He said he wasn't coming if they couldn't share a room. Fine. Nope. Not happening in my house.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

However, on the other hand, I only have to stand before God and answer for me. For someone else, they have to work out their own salvation. I don't have to account for them, nor they for me.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

apple wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Again it's a very childish position. YOu can love your adult child and not agree that he lives with his girlfriend. You can love your friend and not agree with her using drugs or stealing at work. And, on and on. The Left seems to confuse Love with approval of everything someone does. Which is actually the most shallow form of love there is.
What is childish is judging gays, excluding them and expecting them to be okay with that. Its not exactly and act of love or endearment is it?
You can't love someone and sit back and judge them and put yourself above them and call it love. Who do you think you are fooling?

Not sure when I judged and excluded gays?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Again it's a very childish position. YOu can love your adult child and not agree that he lives with his girlfriend. You can love your friend and not agree with her using drugs or stealing at work. And, on and on. The Left seems to confuse Love with approval of everything someone does. Which is actually the most shallow form of love there is.

FNW · Guru

The conundrum I am facing involves my cousin. After 15 years or so of marriage (to a man), she came out, divorced her husband, and is in a serious relationship with another woman. Fast forward to the present. We are planning our trip to the beach house in California, and I would like the cousins to be there and meet my boys. I would like said cousin there, and I have no pr oblem with her bringing her girlfriend, but I do not want the boys to think homosexuality is acceptable and normal. I want them to understand that there are those who are attracted to the same sex, but it doesn't mean it's right or "naaaaatttttuuurrraaaaal."

Flame if you want, but we are trying to raise our boys with faith and morals, yet maintain tolerance for others who are "different."

Ohfour · Hooker

Lawyerlady wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Again it's a very childish position. YOu can love your adult child and not agree that he lives with his girlfriend. You can love your friend and not agree with her using drugs or stealing at work. And, on and on. The Left seems to confuse Love with approval of everything someone does. Which is actually the most shallow form of love there is.

Ditto!

Ohfour · Hooker

Left...shallow. yep!

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
Left...shallow. yep!

Wrong again, but thanks for playing.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

apple wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
You don't have a clue Apple.
The bible is much like the internet, you can go to it to find passages that agree with your own predilection.
If you wish to use the bible to be hateful, I fear that in itself is wrong. Gay people are first and foremost human beings, and they, like other human beings can be very religious and dare I say Christian.
Did your Jesus hate anyone the way you hate gays? I find it sad that people use something meant to be so good, with such bad intentions.

Nope, but they'll deny, deflect AND call you names.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

FNW wrote:
And it was so peaceful for awhile....

Is anyone forcing you to be here?

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

flan327 wrote:
apple wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
You don't have a clue Apple.
The bible is much like the internet, you can go to it to find passages that agree with your own predilection.
If you wish to use the bible to be hateful, I fear that in itself is wrong. Gay people are first and foremost human beings, and they, like other human beings can be very religious and dare I say Christian.
Did your Jesus hate anyone the way you hate gays? I find it sad that people use something meant to be so good, with such bad intentions.

Nope, but they'll deny, deflect AND call you names.
flan

Flan, it is the Left who engages in constant name calling deniers, birthers, homophobe, racist, bigot, sexist blah freaking wah.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
flan327 wrote:
apple wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
You don't have a clue Apple.
The bible is much like the internet, you can go to it to find passages that agree with your own predilection.
If you wish to use the bible to be hateful, I fear that in itself is wrong. Gay people are first and foremost human beings, and they, like other human beings can be very religious and dare I say Christian.
Did your Jesus hate anyone the way you hate gays? I find it sad that people use something meant to be so good, with such bad intentions.

Nope, but they'll deny, deflect AND call you names.
flan

Flan, it is the Left who engages in constant name calling deniers, birthers, homophobe, racist, bigot, sexist blah freaking wah.

LGS,

Who uses THESE names?

Feminazi, Libtard, O'Dummer...

Blah freaking wah.

flan

TrudyML · Guru

FNW wrote:
The conundrum I am facing involves my cousin. After 15 years or so of marriage (to a man), she came out, divorced her husband, and is in a serious relationship with another woman. Fast forward to the present. We are planning our trip to the beach house in California, and I would like the cousins to be there and meet my boys. I would like said cousin there, and I have no pr oblem with her bringing her girlfriend, but I do not want the boys to think homosexuality is acceptable and normal. I want them to understand that there are those who are attracted to the same sex, but it doesn't mean it's right or "naaaaatttttuuurrraaaaal."
Flame if you want, but we are trying to raise our boys with faith and morals, yet maintain tolerance for others who are "different."

Eh, explain. Keep it light and move on. How you handle it is the impression they'll keep.

Ohfour · Hooker

No one here hates gays. Where in the world do you come up with your crap?

FNW · Guru

Thanks, Trudy. I thought I'd ask my other cousins who have children around the same age and see how they handle it, too. The girlfriend seems to be really good with kids and I have a feeling the boys would love her. And I miss my cousin.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

apple wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
You don't have a clue Apple.
The bible is much like the internet, you can go to it to find passages that agree with your own predilection.
If you wish to use the bible to be hateful, I fear that in itself is wrong. Gay people are first and foremost human beings, and they, like other human beings can be very religious and dare I say Christian.
Did your Jesus hate anyone the way you hate gays? I find it sad that people use something meant to be so good, with such bad intentions.

And taking them out of context makes any argument using them sound ignorant. You cannot take the Bible in bits and pieces, you have to take it as a whole.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

And FYI, NO ONE HATES GAYS.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Okay, "NO ONE" hates gays...

flan