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TrudyML · Guru

RE: Christian Mingle Ordered To Accept Gay Singles

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

My DH's aunt has been living with her best friend for about 20 years now.

Dona Worry Be Happy · Vette's SS!!

FNW wrote:
Thanks, Trudy. I thought I'd ask my other cousins who have children around the same age and see how they handle it, too. The girlfriend seems to be really good with kids and I have a feeling the boys would love her. And I miss my cousin.

"This is Jenny, she lives with cousin Sally."

If they question the relationship?

"They are very close, and care about each other very much."

apple · Guru

flan327 wrote:
apple wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
You don't have a clue Apple.
The bible is much like the internet, you can go to it to find passages that agree with your own predilection.
If you wish to use the bible to be hateful, I fear that in itself is wrong. Gay people are first and foremost human beings, and they, like other human beings can be very religious and dare I say Christian.
Did your Jesus hate anyone the way you hate gays? I find it sad that people use something meant to be so good, with such bad intentions.

Nope, but they'll deny, deflect AND call you names.
flan

Right? But somehow these people are so twisted they believe that it is okay to discriminate based on their own particular religious beliefs.

Ohfour · Hooker

apple wrote:
flan327 wrote:
apple wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
You don't have a clue Apple.
The bible is much like the internet, you can go to it to find passages that agree with your own predilection.
If you wish to use the bible to be hateful, I fear that in itself is wrong. Gay people are first and foremost human beings, and they, like other human beings can be very religious and dare I say Christian.
Did your Jesus hate anyone the way you hate gays? I find it sad that people use something meant to be so good, with such bad intentions.

Nope, but they'll deny, deflect AND call you names.
flan
Right? But somehow these people are so twisted they believe that it is okay to discriminate based on their own particular religious beliefs.

Absolutely...its also legal...

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

And hopefully that will be changing SOON.

(But never in Tennessee...)

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
And hopefully that will be changing SOON.

(But never in Tennessee...)

flan

That's not even on a radar that I'm aware of. They are too busy kissing Hillary's ass...

-- Edited by Ohfour on Wednesday 6th of July 2016 11:30:57 AM

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

You know - this thread is EXACTLY the reason that so many people are concerned. I mean, if there is ANYTHING that everyone should be agreeing on, it should be that Christian dating services should not be required to hook up homosexuals. The constant dismissal of Christian concerns and the failure to support freedom of religion on ANYTHING is patently absurd.

It is not paranoia if they really are out to get you.

apple · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
You know - this thread is EXACTLY the reason that so many people are concerned. I mean, if there is ANYTHING that everyone should be agreeing on, it should be that Christian dating services should not be required to hook up homosexuals. The constant dismissal of Christian concerns and the failure to support freedom of religion on ANYTHING is patently absurd.

It is not paranoia if they really are out to get you.

Wrong, if ANYTHING, people should be concerned about religions using their religion to discriminate or worse. Christianity is not the only religion and is not the only religion that is expected not to discriminate or break laws. The laws are there for a very good reason.

Ohfour · Hooker

apple wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
You know - this thread is EXACTLY the reason that so many people are concerned. I mean, if there is ANYTHING that everyone should be agreeing on, it should be that Christian dating services should not be required to hook up homosexuals. The constant dismissal of Christian concerns and the failure to support freedom of religion on ANYTHING is patently absurd.

It is not paranoia if they really are out to get you.
Wrong, if ANYTHING, people should be concerned about religions using their religion to discriminate or worse. Christianity is not the only religion and is not the only religion that is expected not to discriminate or break laws. The laws are there for a very good reason.

Yeah, no laws...well, there are in a few cities, but there are no Federal Laws...

FNW · Guru

They don't live together. Actually, they live in different states. But I get the gist.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

So they are now forced to hook up gays. How many gays are going to sign up? I am sure there are other dating services that have more traffic & higher possibility for meeting their partner. This is just stupid for so many reasons.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
You know - this thread is EXACTLY the reason that so many people are concerned. I mean, if there is ANYTHING that everyone should be agreeing on, it should be that Christian dating services should not be required to hook up homosexuals. The constant dismissal of Christian concerns and the failure to support freedom of religion on ANYTHING is patently absurd.

It is not paranoia if they really are out to get you.

I agree, in this instance.

flan

apple · Guru

Yes, they are now forced to include Christians that happen to be gay. Oh the humanity...

burns07 · Guru

Yes, they are now forced to include Christians that happen to be gay. Oh the humanity...
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the operative word being " forced " -- so much for the site's/member's/board of director's freedom of religion

wrong on so many levels the whole event is just sickening--another successful ( for the time being ) attack on christians' freedom of religion

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

apple wrote:
Yes, they are now forced to include Christians that happen to be gay. Oh the humanity...

They are being forced to accept people and help them engage in sin.

Ohfour · Hooker

apple wrote:
Yes, they are now forced to include Christians that happen to be gay. Oh the humanity...

We have freedom of religion. There is no freedom to be gay.

So they have taken away an inalienable right away.

But that's NEVER going to happen, right?????

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

apple wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
You know - this thread is EXACTLY the reason that so many people are concerned. I mean, if there is ANYTHING that everyone should be agreeing on, it should be that Christian dating services should not be required to hook up homosexuals. The constant dismissal of Christian concerns and the failure to support freedom of religion on ANYTHING is patently absurd.

It is not paranoia if they really are out to get you.
Wrong, if ANYTHING, people should be concerned about religions using their religion to discriminate or worse. Christianity is not the only religion and is not the only religion that is expected not to discriminate or break laws. The laws are there for a very good reason.

There's a really, really, REALLY big law that favors freedom of religion - it's called the First Amendment. Christians should not be forced to help others engage in sin. Period. And I'm quite certain there are other options for them, or a big, fat opportunity for someone to start one. There is no compelling reason to require Christians to act against their faith.

burns07 · Guru

really wish they'd never outlawed duelling.......much more direct and resolved with finality in a few moments

FNW · Guru

burns07 wrote:

really wish they'd never outlawed duelling.......much more direct and resolved with finality in a few moments

And spring guns. No more burglaries!

apple · Guru

Religious freedom in America means that you all have a right to your religious beliefs, but this does not give you the right to use your religion to discriminate against and impose those beliefs on others who do not share them.

In this situation the people wanting to join the Christian dating site, are Christians.

Lets not leave the door open to the many absurd religions and religious leaders who are happy to let you foolishly to their bidding.

Ohfour · Hooker

apple wrote:
Religious freedom in America means that you all have a right to your religious beliefs, but this does not give you the right to use your religion to discriminate against and impose those beliefs on others who do not share them.

In this situation the people wanting to join the Christian dating site, are Christians.

Lets not leave the door open to the many absurd religions and religious leaders who are happy to let you foolishly to their bidding.

WTF are you babbling about? No one is forcing these people to join the site. How is that imposing my beliefs on them? That makes NO sense whatsoever...

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

apple wrote:
Religious freedom in America means that you all have a right to your religious beliefs, but this does not give you the right to use your religion to discriminate against and impose those beliefs on others who do not share them.

In this situation the people wanting to join the Christian dating site, are Christians.

Lets not leave the door open to the many absurd religions and religious leaders who are happy to let you foolishly to their bidding.

Except the problem is that homosexuals are the ones trying to impose their beliefs on Christians in this instance - not the other way around. It's pretty damn clear from the title of the company that it is a Christian company, so why are they forcing this?

The Christians are the ones being forced here, not the other way around, no matter how you want to spin it.

apple · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
apple wrote:
Religious freedom in America means that you all have a right to your religious beliefs, but this does not give you the right to use your religion to discriminate against and impose those beliefs on others who do not share them.

In this situation the people wanting to join the Christian dating site, are Christians.

Lets not leave the door open to the many absurd religions and religious leaders who are happy to let you foolishly to their bidding.
Except the problem is that homosexuals are the ones trying to impose their beliefs on Christians in this instance - not the other way around. It's pretty damn clear from the title of the company that it is a Christian company, so why are they forcing this?
The Christians are the ones being forced here, not the other way around, no matter how you want to spin it.

They are Christians, they just happen to be gay as well.

FNW · Guru

Then find your hook-up at a gay Christian website, not ChristianMingle who helps straight Christians meet.

Tinydancer · Guru

You can be gay and think you're Christian but unless you're not having sex you are not following Christian teachings. Only in name can you be gay and Christian.

apple · Guru

FNW wrote:
Then find your hook-up at a gay Christian website, not ChristianMingle who helps straight Christians meet.

It is called Christian Mingle, not STRAIGHT Christina Mingle.

They are Christians, who happen to be gay.

Ohfour · Hooker

apple wrote:
FNW wrote:
Then find your hook-up at a gay Christian website, not ChristianMingle who helps straight Christians meet.
It is called Christian Mingle, not STRAIGHT Christina Mingle.
They are Christians, who happen to be gay.

Not really...

Tinydancer · Guru

It's against God's word to be gay. They can call themselves Christians all they want though...

FNW · Guru

Christian Mingle should no more be forced to include gays than they, or any other dating site not geared towards this, accept those seeking mates to engage in BDSM. It's just not that kind of site.

apple · Guru

I liked this response:

When a business owner applies for and receives a business license, it is a government transaction, at both the state and federal levels. Since we all pay taxes to the same state and federal governments, and those governments require licensed business owners to treat all persons equally, those who are granted the privilege of doing business must treat every person equally. Whether the business owner agree or disagrees with any part of a person's life is not the issue. The issue is discrimination, and that is illegal and goes against the tenets of business law, ethics, and licensing. If potential business owners were required to take courses in business law, ethics, and licensing before opening their businesses, the expectations would be clearer and we'd have fewer cases like this clogging up the judicial system.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Better start making sure all those married men get kicked off Chrsitian Mingle then.

Ohfour · Hooker

apple wrote:
I liked this response:

When a business owner applies for and receives a business license, it is a government transaction, at both the state and federal levels. Since we all pay taxes to the same state and federal governments, and those governments require licensed business owners to treat all persons equally, those who are granted the privilege of doing business must treat every person equally. Whether the business owner agree or disagrees with any part of a person's life is not the issue. The issue is discrimination, and that is illegal and goes against the tenets of business law, ethics, and licensing. If potential business owners were required to take courses in business law, ethics, and licensing before opening their businesses, the expectations would be clearer and we'd have fewer cases like this clogging up the judicial system.

Opinion...not true in the least...

Tinydancer · Guru

Except for that pesky First Amendment what you quoted might make sense.

Tinydancer · Guru

Mellow Momma wrote:
Better start making sure all those married men get kicked off Chrsitian Mingle then.

Unless they're claiming to be married (which I doubt) how would Christian Mingle know that. On the other hand if you come on claiming you're gay or married (looking to commit adultery) then there is no mystery that you're sinning.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

apple wrote:
FNW wrote:
Then find your hook-up at a gay Christian website, not ChristianMingle who helps straight Christians meet.
It is called Christian Mingle, not STRAIGHT Christina Mingle.
They are Christians, who happen to be gay.

So freaking whattt? Doesn't mean they have to change it to suit you or anyone else.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

apple wrote:
I liked this response:

When a business owner applies for and receives a business license, it is a government transaction, at both the state and federal levels. Since we all pay taxes to the same state and federal governments, and those governments require licensed business owners to treat all persons equally, those who are granted the privilege of doing business must treat every person equally. Whether the business owner agree or disagrees with any part of a person's life is not the issue. The issue is discrimination, and that is illegal and goes against the tenets of business law, ethics, and licensing. If potential business owners were required to take courses in business law, ethics, and licensing before opening their businesses, the expectations would be clearer and we'd have fewer cases like this clogging up the judicial system.

I don't. The government interfering with a person's right to exercise their religion by saying they can't run a business if they don't do what goes against their beliefs is a complete and utter violation of the 1st amendment.

apple · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
apple wrote:
I liked this response:

When a business owner applies for and receives a business license, it is a government transaction, at both the state and federal levels. Since we all pay taxes to the same state and federal governments, and those governments require licensed business owners to treat all persons equally, those who are granted the privilege of doing business must treat every person equally. Whether the business owner agree or disagrees with any part of a person's life is not the issue. The issue is discrimination, and that is illegal and goes against the tenets of business law, ethics, and licensing. If potential business owners were required to take courses in business law, ethics, and licensing before opening their businesses, the expectations would be clearer and we'd have fewer cases like this clogging up the judicial system.
I don't. The government interfering with a person's right to exercise their religion by saying they can't run a business if they don't do what goes against their beliefs is a complete and utter violation of the 1st amendment.

If you believe that the first amendment gives any religion the right to discriminate for whatever reason, it is not just Christians that will use this. Do you not understand the implications of allowing all religions to discriminate at will based on whatever that particular religion is?

You must see where this is going and which "religions" will use it.

Ohfour · Hooker

apple wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
apple wrote:
I liked this response:

When a business owner applies for and receives a business license, it is a government transaction, at both the state and federal levels. Since we all pay taxes to the same state and federal governments, and those governments require licensed business owners to treat all persons equally, those who are granted the privilege of doing business must treat every person equally. Whether the business owner agree or disagrees with any part of a person's life is not the issue. The issue is discrimination, and that is illegal and goes against the tenets of business law, ethics, and licensing. If potential business owners were required to take courses in business law, ethics, and licensing before opening their businesses, the expectations would be clearer and we'd have fewer cases like this clogging up the judicial system.
I don't. The government interfering with a person's right to exercise their religion by saying they can't run a business if they don't do what goes against their beliefs is a complete and utter violation of the 1st amendment.
If you believe that the first amendment gives any religion the right to discriminate for whatever reason, it is not just Christians that will use this. Do you not understand the implications of allowing all religions to discriminate at will based on whatever that particular religion is?
You must see where this is going and which "religions" will use it.

Absolutely. And they have that right.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

apple wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
apple wrote:
I liked this response:

When a business owner applies for and receives a business license, it is a government transaction, at both the state and federal levels. Since we all pay taxes to the same state and federal governments, and those governments require licensed business owners to treat all persons equally, those who are granted the privilege of doing business must treat every person equally. Whether the business owner agree or disagrees with any part of a person's life is not the issue. The issue is discrimination, and that is illegal and goes against the tenets of business law, ethics, and licensing. If potential business owners were required to take courses in business law, ethics, and licensing before opening their businesses, the expectations would be clearer and we'd have fewer cases like this clogging up the judicial system.
I don't. The government interfering with a person's right to exercise their religion by saying they can't run a business if they don't do what goes against their beliefs is a complete and utter violation of the 1st amendment.
If you believe that the first amendment gives any religion the right to discriminate for whatever reason, it is not just Christians that will use this. Do you not understand the implications of allowing all religions to discriminate at will based on whatever that particular religion is?
You must see where this is going and which "religions" will use it.

They already do. How many Muslim bakers have been sued for refusing to bake a cake for a gay wedding? You think they are actually doing it?

And yes, I think they all have the right to refuse to service acts they consider sinful.

I don't think Jewish people should be forced to cater pork. I don't think Muslims should be forced to touch people of the opposite sex. I live in a free country - I don't think people should be FORCED to participate in sinful behavior.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

You don't seem to understand what Discrimination is. It isn't discrimination to say "adults only" for an event. It isn't discrimination to have a Boys Club that is for BOYS or a girls's club that is for Girls. It isn't discrimination to set up the parameters for something. It isn't discrimination to have rules and guidelines except for in your fantasy liberal world.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Interesting video.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

This is all just more evidence that Donald Trump needs to be elected. If nothing else, to at least squash the Political correctness Bully train.

FNW · Guru

LOL @ giant burqa'd elephant in the room!!!!! HAHAHAHAHHAHA

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

And, i want that cake with bacon!

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

FNW wrote:
LOL @ giant burqa'd elephant in the room!!!!! HAHAHAHAHHAHA

Great line, huh?

But he makes a valid point.

I've yet to hear of a Muslim bakery being sued for discrimination.

FNW · Guru

And you won't, Lily. Even with all the beheading, they aren't accused of discrimination.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

They throw gays off of rooftops to their deaths. Christian bakers won't bake them a cake. But, to the Left, it is the Christians who are the bigger problem.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

And that's the problem with the talk of discrimination.

The guy who done that piece, he's as gay as they come.

And he sees the discrimination against Christians.

He calls it out.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
They throw gays off of rooftops to their deaths. Christian bakers won't bake them a cake. But, to the Left, it is the Christians who are the bigger problem.

Have you watched the clip?

It's a known outspoken homosexual going to muslim bakeries and asking for a gay wedding cake.

Very enlightening.