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FNW · Guru

Christian Mingle Ordered To Accept Gay Singles

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

And he state that what is happening to the Christian business owner, is wrong.

He basically said it is the Christian being discriminated against.

If that wasn't true, then the Muslim bakeries would be sued as well.

apple · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:

Interesting video.

Fake / misleading video.

In the video, some conservative Faux News wannabe called Steven Crowder acts out a bunch of flaming-gay stereotypes while asking for offensive and silly titles to be put on a wedding cake. This included asking for “Same Sex 4ever” to be emblazoned on his cake because, you know, someone would actually pay for that.

Amazingly, none of his requests are refused. Heck, I would’ve turned him away just for being such an idiot. What he’s asking for is also fair game for refusal because, uh, the word “sex.” These guys know what kind of game they’re playing.

In one scene, a woman wearing a hijab is handling his order. She asks him, “Wedding?” Crowder replies, “Yeah.”

She asks, “Who’s the wedding for?”

Crowder jumps back in shock from the counter and practically shouts, “It’s for, uh, two people getting married.”

She’s just trying to be conversational, bro. Wallah. You want a gay wedding cake made by Muslims? Dearborn’s gonna bake it for you. Hamdullah.

In another scene, the guy goes to a bread bakery where they’re churning out fresh pita in a brick oven. It’s obvious there are no cakes or sweets in the bakery. The place just makes bread. Despite not being able to take an order for a wedding cake, the men behind the counter still refer him to a place where he can get wedding photographs across the street, inshallah.

The only person who answers negatively to Crowder is a fellow who works at Hallab bakery on Warren road. I’ve gotten Nammoura there before — it’s pretty damn good. Unfortunately, there’s one minor issue: Hallab doesn’t bake wedding cakes. At all. Hallab does cater for weddings if you want a nice assortment of Lebanese sweets — but they don’t bake wedding cakes. You can even look on their website.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Uh huh.

Do you ever get dizzy?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Most gay Christians absolutely understand when other Christians do not want to participate in their weddings.

It's the militant atheists using this "cause" as a weapon against Christians.

-- Edited by Lawyerlady on Wednesday 6th of July 2016 05:05:15 PM

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
Most gay Christians absolutely understand when other Christians do not want to participate in their weddings.

It's the militant atheists using this "cause" as a weapon against Christians.

-- Edited by Lawyerlady on Wednesday 6th of July 2016 05:05:15 PM

Same old song...

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Most gay Christians absolutely understand when other Christians do not want to participate in their weddings.

It's the militant atheists using this "cause" as a weapon against Christians.

-- Edited by Lawyerlady on Wednesday 6th of July 2016 05:05:15 PM

Same old song...
flan

Same old dance....

Ohfour · Hooker

So, flan, Christian rights havent been taken away???????

apple · Guru

Christians rights to discriminate, yes they have been taken away.

Ohfour · Hooker

Good thing you are wrong...in most instances. Religious rights trump all.
And there is no protection for gays. So as it stands, I can refuse housing and employment.

apple · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
Good thing you are wrong...in most instances. Religious rights trump all.
And there is no protection for gays. So as it stands, I can refuse housing and employment.

Take a look at the title and the subject of this thread. The good Christians have been ordered to accept the gay singles. Are you confused.... confuse

Ohfour · Hooker

Nope. They still arent a protected class. This was about ONE site. There have been other rulings protecting religious rights.
I do not have to employ them. I do not have to rent to them.

apple · Guru

Well, hopefully everyone is not like you. But ya, you don't hate them right?

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

apple wrote:
Christians rights to discriminate, yes they have been taken away.

What about the Muslim right to discriminate?

The Jewish right to discriminate?

The Atheists right to discriminate?

Ohfour · Hooker

I dont hate them, but I wont be party to their sinning. Not anymore than I would let my kids sleep with someone they are not married to. Not gonna happen on my watch...

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

apple wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Good thing you are wrong...in most instances. Religious rights trump all.
And there is no protection for gays. So as it stands, I can refuse housing and employment.
Take a look at the title and the subject of this thread. The good Christians have been ordered to accept the gay singles. Are you confused....

Actually.

No. They were not forced.

They settled.

HUGE difference.

Ohfour · Hooker

When my BIL and his BF come to visit, they sleep in separate rooms. And yet, they still come...imagine that...

apple · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
apple wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Good thing you are wrong...in most instances. Religious rights trump all.
And there is no protection for gays. So as it stands, I can refuse housing and employment.
Take a look at the title and the subject of this thread. The good Christians have been ordered to accept the gay singles. Are you confused....

Actually.
No. They were not forced.
They settled.
HUGE difference.

Not really, they would not have changed had they not been "forced" to. But hey, whatever floats your boat. PS...the headline is misleading...consider the source.

apple · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
When my BIL and his BF come to visit, they sleep in separate rooms. And yet, they still come...imagine that...

That is fine, do what you want in your own house.

Good for you.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

apple wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
apple wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Good thing you are wrong...in most instances. Religious rights trump all.
And there is no protection for gays. So as it stands, I can refuse housing and employment.
Take a look at the title and the subject of this thread. The good Christians have been ordered to accept the gay singles. Are you confused....

Actually.
No. They were not forced.
They settled.
HUGE difference.
Not really, they would not have changed had they not been "forced" to. But hey, whatever floats your boat. PS...the headline is misleading...consider the source.

I just copied and pasted.

And there is a difference between being forced and giving in.

Ohfour · Hooker

apple wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
When my BIL and his BF come to visit, they sleep in separate rooms. And yet, they still come...imagine that...
That is fine, do what you want in your own house.
Good for you.

And yet, you accuse me of hating gays....

Ohfour · Hooker

apple wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
apple wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Good thing you are wrong...in most instances. Religious rights trump all.
And there is no protection for gays. So as it stands, I can refuse housing and employment.
Take a look at the title and the subject of this thread. The good Christians have been ordered to accept the gay singles. Are you confused....

Actually.
No. They were not forced.
They settled.
HUGE difference.
Not really, they would not have changed had they not been "forced" to. But hey, whatever floats your boat. PS...the headline is misleading...consider the source.

Bill Clinton settled with a couple of women that accused him of rape.

WYSIWYG · Guru

Since there are gay Christians, and even denominations of Christianity that accept gay people and even perform marriages, I agree with the ruling.

I think I would only disagree with the ruling if it hadn't been "Christian" Mingle. When they titled it "Christian" they included all Christians. It would be different to me if it was limited by name to a denomination that is fully opposed to gay people by denominational doctrine.

If it was "Catholic Mingle" for example. I don't recall any Catholic rule allowing for gay marriage or relationships. therefore I wouldn't rule a company called "Catholic Mingle" discriminatory, because the Catholic faith disallows gay activity.

"General Christianity" has proven that it has no such entirety-wide restriction.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Ridiculous.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

WYSIWYG wrote:
Since there are gay Christians, and even denominations of Christianity that accept gay people and even perform marriages, I agree with the ruling.

I think I would only disagree with the ruling if it hadn't been "Christian" Mingle. When they titled it "Christian" they included all Christians. It would be different to me if it was limited by name to a denomination that is fully opposed to gay people by denominational doctrine.

If it was "Catholic Mingle" for example. I don't recall any Catholic rule allowing for gay marriage or relationships. therefore I wouldn't rule a company called "Catholic Mingle" discriminatory, because the Catholic faith disallows gay activity.

"General Christianity" has proven that it has no such entirety-wide restriction.

Well said.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Horse feathers.

burns07 · Guru

"General Christianity" has proven that it has no such entirety-wide restriction.
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typical liberalspeak--utter bs--this is the problem with the entire liberal agenda--no personal responsibility/accountability

NO ONE, including the government, whatever homosexual organization/athiest organization, etc. is going to force me to interact/admit homosexuals to an organization to which I belong without my consent--my right to privacy ( and yours ) trumps a bunch of homosexuals' feelings/pc whinings for being excluded from the same--believe me, i won't sue/go to court/go to the media to force homosexuals (regardless of their " religion " ) to admit me to a " homosexualmingles " site
can personally guarantee that it will never happen

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

burns07 wrote:

"General Christianity" has proven that it has no such entirety-wide restriction.
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typical liberalspeak--utter bs--this is the problem with the entire liberal agenda--no personal responsibility/accountability

NO ONE, including the government, whatever homosexual organization/athiest organization, etc. is going to force me to interact/admit homosexuals to an organization to which I belong without my consent--my right to privacy ( and yours ) trumps a bunch of homosexuals' feelings/pc whinings for being excluded from the same--believe me, i won't sue/go to court/go to the media to force homosexuals (regardless of their " religion " ) to admit me to a " homosexualmingles " site
can personally guarantee that it will never happen

English translation, please?

flan

burns07 · Guru

English translation, please?
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your diminished capacity is becoming more and more evident

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

burns07 wrote:

English translation, please?
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your diminished capacity is becoming more and more evident

Because my Shift key works and I use proper punctuation...

flan

apple · Guru

WYSIWYG wrote:
Since there are gay Christians, and even denominations of Christianity that accept gay people and even perform marriages, I agree with the ruling.

I think I would only disagree with the ruling if it hadn't been "Christian" Mingle. When they titled it "Christian" they included all Christians. It would be different to me if it was limited by name to a denomination that is fully opposed to gay people by denominational doctrine.

If it was "Catholic Mingle" for example. I don't recall any Catholic rule allowing for gay marriage or relationships. therefore I wouldn't rule a company called "Catholic Mingle" discriminatory, because the Catholic faith disallows gay activity.

"General Christianity" has proven that it has no such entirety-wide restriction.

Exactly.

apple · Guru

burns07 wrote:

"General Christianity" has proven that it has no such entirety-wide restriction.
__________________________________________________________

typical liberalspeak--utter bs--this is the problem with the entire liberal agenda--no personal responsibility/accountability

NO ONE, including the government, whatever homosexual organization/athiest organization, etc. is going to force me to interact/admit homosexuals to an organization to which I belong without my consent--my right to privacy ( and yours ) trumps a bunch of homosexuals' feelings/pc whinings for being excluded from the same--believe me, i won't sue/go to court/go to the media to force homosexuals (regardless of their " religion " ) to admit me to a " homosexualmingles " site
can personally guarantee that it will never happen

You are not a business. Businesses live by an entirely different set of rules than you do.

Ohfour · Hooker

apple wrote:
burns07 wrote:

"General Christianity" has proven that it has no such entirety-wide restriction.
__________________________________________________________

typical liberalspeak--utter bs--this is the problem with the entire liberal agenda--no personal responsibility/accountability

NO ONE, including the government, whatever homosexual organization/athiest organization, etc. is going to force me to interact/admit homosexuals to an organization to which I belong without my consent--my right to privacy ( and yours ) trumps a bunch of homosexuals' feelings/pc whinings for being excluded from the same--believe me, i won't sue/go to court/go to the media to force homosexuals (regardless of their " religion " ) to admit me to a " homosexualmingles " site
can personally guarantee that it will never happen

You are not a business. Businesses live by an entirely different set of rules than you do.

and Gays aren't included in those rules...

apple · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
apple wrote:
burns07 wrote:

"General Christianity" has proven that it has no such entirety-wide restriction.
__________________________________________________________

typical liberalspeak--utter bs--this is the problem with the entire liberal agenda--no personal responsibility/accountability

NO ONE, including the government, whatever homosexual organization/athiest organization, etc. is going to force me to interact/admit homosexuals to an organization to which I belong without my consent--my right to privacy ( and yours ) trumps a bunch of homosexuals' feelings/pc whinings for being excluded from the same--believe me, i won't sue/go to court/go to the media to force homosexuals (regardless of their " religion " ) to admit me to a " homosexualmingles " site
can personally guarantee that it will never happen

You are not a business. Businesses live by an entirely different set of rules than you do.
and Gays aren't included in those rules...

Discrimination situations continue to be fought, and won. Laws are changing and being changed to protect people from discrimination.

Ohfour · Hooker

apple wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
apple wrote:
burns07 wrote:

"General Christianity" has proven that it has no such entirety-wide restriction.
__________________________________________________________

typical liberalspeak--utter bs--this is the problem with the entire liberal agenda--no personal responsibility/accountability

NO ONE, including the government, whatever homosexual organization/athiest organization, etc. is going to force me to interact/admit homosexuals to an organization to which I belong without my consent--my right to privacy ( and yours ) trumps a bunch of homosexuals' feelings/pc whinings for being excluded from the same--believe me, i won't sue/go to court/go to the media to force homosexuals (regardless of their " religion " ) to admit me to a " homosexualmingles " site
can personally guarantee that it will never happen

You are not a business. Businesses live by an entirely different set of rules than you do.
and Gays aren't included in those rules...
Discrimination situations continue to be fought, and won. Laws are changing and being changed to protect people from discrimination.

And if they do change, I will abide by those laws. It's not even on the radar right now, so I don't see it happening anytime soon...

burns07 · Guru

actually we own two businesses and we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone as is posted clearly at both of our offices

apple · Guru

burns07 wrote:

actually we own two businesses and we reserve the right to refuse service to anyone as is posted clearly at both of our offices

So you don't serve people you think might be gay?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

A dating service should be able to limit itself to any certain type of people. It's DATING, and people should actually be able to limit those choices as they see fit.

apple · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
A dating service should be able to limit itself to any certain type of people. It's DATING, and people should actually be able to limit those choices as they see fit.

Yes and the service they provide it for CHRISTIANS.... confuse

Tinydancer · Guru

As a Christian if I were looking for a date I would think ChristianMingle was for people with Christian values. One of which includes the fact that engaging in gay sex is an abomination to God. Why not start their own GayChristianMingle...Oh because then they wouldn't get their 15 minutes of fame. Just like the ones who sue a bakery who won't bake their cake.

apple · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
As a Christian if I were looking for a date I would think ChristianMingle was for people with Christian values. One of which includes the fact that engaging in gay sex is an abomination to God. Why not start their own GayChristianMingle...Oh because then they wouldn't get their 15 minutes of fame. Just like the ones who sue a bakery who won't bake their cake.

Perhaps they identify themselves as Christians before abominations. confuse

You might be surprised how many gay Christians are actually out there.

FNW · Guru

Then let them start their own website.

apple · Guru

FNW wrote:
Then let them start their own website.

It is not that simple, and why should they. If a Christian wishes to go on a dating site and happens to be gay, why should the site not have the option for same sex? Obviously ChristianMingle realized the err of their ways because they now DO Have that option.

FNW · Guru

Wimps.

Ohfour · Hooker

Instigators are what they are. They don't WANT equal treatment, they want special treatment.

Saw it first hand when SCOTUS rules on same-sex marriage...

Tinydancer · Guru

apple wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
As a Christian if I were looking for a date I would think ChristianMingle was for people with Christian values. One of which includes the fact that engaging in gay sex is an abomination to God. Why not start their own GayChristianMingle...Oh because then they wouldn't get their 15 minutes of fame. Just like the ones who sue a bakery who won't bake their cake.
Perhaps they identify themselves as Christians before abominations.
You might be surprised how many gay Christians are actually out there.

They can call themselves Christians all they want but if they are engaging in homosexual sex they are not Christians. Sorry but that's according to the Bible which for Christians IS THE WORD OF GOD.

FNW · Guru

If I were interested seeking out a white straight male companion, I would not go to a black dating website unless it were to stir up trouble and allege racism.

apple · Guru

Tinydancer wrote:
apple wrote:
Tinydancer wrote:
As a Christian if I were looking for a date I would think ChristianMingle was for people with Christian values. One of which includes the fact that engaging in gay sex is an abomination to God. Why not start their own GayChristianMingle...Oh because then they wouldn't get their 15 minutes of fame. Just like the ones who sue a bakery who won't bake their cake.
Perhaps they identify themselves as Christians before abominations.
You might be surprised how many gay Christians are actually out there.

They can call themselves Christians all they want but if they are engaging in homosexual sex they are not Christians. Sorry but that's according to the Bible which for Christians IS THE WORD OF GOD.

So you say, There are many denominations of Christians and while some condemn homosexuality, some don't. If ChristianMingle truly felt that God was on their side, why didn't they fight this?

apple · Guru

FNW wrote:
If I were interested seeking out a white straight male companion, I would not go to a black dating website unless it were to stir up trouble and allege racism.

You missed the point. CHRISTIAN mingle.

So a Christian goes to a dating site .......

Ohfour · Hooker

Instigators. That's all they are. They probably aren't even Christians. They are whiney ass people that want to cause trouble for Christians. Real gay Christians wouldn't act like that...