TOTALLY GEEKED!

Ohfour wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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Arent your sons more successful than you, Flannie? Even being black?

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1. Define "successful."

2. They are bi-racial.

flan

 

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 When they check that little box, 10 to 1, they check black. Bi racial isn't even an option...

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 What is WRONG with you? Maybe NOT in Tennessee, but it IS here.

flan

flan327 wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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Arent your sons more successful than you, Flannie? Even being black?

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1. Define "successful."

2. They are bi-racial.

flan

 

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 When they check that little box, 10 to 1, they check black. Bi racial isn't even an option...

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 What is WRONG with you? Maybe NOT in Tennessee, but it IS here.

flan

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 Mmm hmmm...

Checking black gives them thousands more opportunities.  Dont for a minute tell me they didnt take advantage of that...

Ohfour wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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Arent your sons more successful than you, Flannie? Even being black?

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1. Define "successful."

2. They are bi-racial.

flan

 

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 When they check that little box, 10 to 1, they check black. Bi racial isn't even an option...

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 What is WRONG with you? Maybe NOT in Tennessee, but it IS here.

flan

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 Mmm hmmm...

Checking black gives them thousands more opportunities.  Dont for a minute tell me they didnt take advantage of that...

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 Nope, they checked "Bi-racial," which is what they are.

You really need help for your anger issues.

flan

Nobody Just Nobody wrote:

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There is no hatred. Says anyone on this board. Never.

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 Well, I hate you...

flan

chef wrote:

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If white people have so much privilege, where are the programs exclusively for white people?

Minorities have scholarships, affirmative action, etc. for which white people are not eligible. I don't care that they do, just making a point. To my knowledge, white people don't have anything given to them because they're white.

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 I believe the premise would be that white people don't need programs exclusively for white people because nobody is discriminating against them and they have more options.

Just a guess though....

chef wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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chef wrote:

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If white people have so much privilege, where are the programs exclusively for white people?

Minorities have scholarships, affirmative action, etc. for which white people are not eligible. I don't care that they do, just making a point. To my knowledge, white people don't have anything given to them because they're white.

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 Oh, you mean the programs that have existed since the country was founded?

Legal segregation of schools was stopped in the U.S. by federal enforcement of a series of Supreme Court decisions after Brown v. Board of Education in 1954. All legally-enforced public segregation was abolished by the Civil Rights Act of 1964.^[4] It passed after civil rights demonstrations resulted in public opinion turning against enforced segregation. De facto segregation — segregation "in fact", without sanction of law — persists in varying degrees to the present day. The contemporary racial segregation seen in the United States in residential neighborhoods has been shaped by public policies, mortgage discrimination, and redlining, among other factors.^[5] Hypersegregation is a form of racial segregation that consists of the geographical grouping of racial groups. Most often, this occurs in cities where the residents of the inner city are African Americans and the suburbs surrounding this inner core are often white European American residents.

flan

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 No, Flan.

Programs exclusively FOR white people. Meaning, you must be white to get x program.

Segregation wasn't FOR white people. Certain groups living together is not FOR white people.

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 So, an all-white country club is not FOR white people?

And, what apple said...

flan

flan327 wrote:

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chef wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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chef wrote:

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If white people have so much privilege, where are the programs exclusively for white people?

Minorities have scholarships, affirmative action, etc. for which white people are not eligible. I don't care that they do, just making a point. To my knowledge, white people don't have anything given to them because they're white.

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 Oh, you mean the programs that have existed since the country was founded?

Legal segregation of schools was stopped in the U.S. by federal enforcement of a series of Supreme Court decisions after Brown v. Board of Education in 1954. All legally-enforced public segregation was abolished by the Civil Rights Act of 1964.^[4] It passed after civil rights demonstrations resulted in public opinion turning against enforced segregation. De facto segregation — segregation "in fact", without sanction of law — persists in varying degrees to the present day. The contemporary racial segregation seen in the United States in residential neighborhoods has been shaped by public policies, mortgage discrimination, and redlining, among other factors.^[5] Hypersegregation is a form of racial segregation that consists of the geographical grouping of racial groups. Most often, this occurs in cities where the residents of the inner city are African Americans and the suburbs surrounding this inner core are often white European American residents.

flan

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 No, Flan.

Programs exclusively FOR white people. Meaning, you must be white to get x program.

Segregation wasn't FOR white people. Certain groups living together is not FOR white people.

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 So, an all-white country club is not FOR white people?

And, what apple said...

flan

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 A country club isn't a program. Since you brought it up, provide a link to a country club that specifically states it only allows white people.

chef wrote:

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If white people have so much privilege, where are the programs exclusively for white people?

Minorities have scholarships, affirmative action, etc. for which white people are not eligible. I don't care that they do, just making a point. To my knowledge, white people don't have anything given to them because they're white.

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 I have not read this whole thread.  Sometimes it is really difficult with multiple quoting.  But this statement stands out.  While white people may seem to have privilege & in some cases do, there are few programs to help the white underprivileged like there are for minorities.  And do not for one minute believe there are no white underprivileged.  Just think about Appalachia & other poor regions.  Are they getting free lunches, etc.? 

We are suffering more from class than minority...it is just easier to diversify by race.  It makes it harder for the lower class to unify.  Seriously do you think Kanye cares more about "Black Lives" than his next tour or even his next Tweet, even if it is about "Black Lives"? 

I have a friend whose first name is an ethnic one that goes back hundreds of years in her family. But in order to get a job she has to abbreviate her "ghetto" name and go by her middle name instead. In the meantime, my daughter has an ethnic name that goes back hundreds of years in our family and no one blinks when she puts her real name on applications.

THAT my friends is white privilege.

When someone sees Kate and also KaNeisha on a job application and looks to their qualifications before deciding who gets the phone call...then we can say privilege is gone.

Because people discriminate against her based on her name alone. Yes. Have some fricking compassion.

lilyofcourse wrote:

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Mellow Momma wrote:

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I have a friend whose first name is an ethnic one that goes back hundreds of years in her family. But in order to get a job she has to abbreviate her "ghetto" name and go by her middle name instead. In the meantime, my daughter has an ethnic name that goes back hundreds of years in our family and no one blinks when she puts her real name on applications.

THAT my friends is white privilege.

When someone sees Kate and also KaNeisha on a job application and looks to their qualifications before deciding who gets the phone call...then we can say privilege is gone.

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 Awww.... poor thing.

Has to use her middle name.

Give me a break.

 

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 Lol!!!!  I use my middle name too. 

ed11563 wrote:

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Maybe I should have changed my Jewish last name decades ago ???

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 Maybe you should have. Cause ethnic names are inhibitors,  don't you know????

Mellow Momma wrote:

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I have a friend whose first name is an ethnic one that goes back hundreds of years in her family. But in order to get a job she has to abbreviate her "ghetto" name and go by her middle name instead. In the meantime, my daughter has an ethnic name that goes back hundreds of years in our family and no one blinks when she puts her real name on applications.

THAT my friends is white privilege.

When someone sees Kate and also KaNeisha on a job application and looks to their qualifications before deciding who gets the phone call...then we can say privilege is gone.

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 So we are supposed to feel sorry that her parents choose to pick that name??

Lexxy wrote:

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chef wrote:

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If white people have so much privilege, where are the programs exclusively for white people?

Minorities have scholarships, affirmative action, etc. for which white people are not eligible. I don't care that they do, just making a point. To my knowledge, white people don't have anything given to them because they're white.

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 I have not read this whole thread.  Sometimes it is really difficult with multiple quoting.  But this statement stands out.  While white people may seem to have privilege & in some cases do, there are few programs to help the white underprivileged like there are for minorities.  And do not for one minute believe there are no white underprivileged.  Just think about Appalachia & other poor regions.  Are they getting free lunches, etc.? 

We are suffering more from class than minority...it is just easier to diversify by race.  It makes it harder for the lower class to unify.  Seriously do you think Kanye cares more about "Black Lives" than his next tour or even his next Tweet, even if it is about "Black Lives"? 

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 Exactly. Thank you.

Lexxy wrote:

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chef wrote:

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If white people have so much privilege, where are the programs exclusively for white people?

Minorities have scholarships, affirmative action, etc. for which white people are not eligible. I don't care that they do, just making a point. To my knowledge, white people don't have anything given to them because they're white.

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 I have not read this whole thread.  Sometimes it is really difficult with multiple quoting.  But this statement stands out.  While white people may seem to have privilege & in some cases do, there are few programs to help the white underprivileged like there are for minorities.  And do not for one minute believe there are no white underprivileged.  Just think about Appalachia & other poor regions.  Are they getting free lunches, etc.? 

We are suffering more from class than minority...it is just easier to diversify by race.  It makes it harder for the lower class to unify.  Seriously do you think Kanye cares more about "Black Lives" than his next tour or even his next Tweet, even if it is about "Black Lives"? 

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 My library serves a community that I consider to be "nice" and "safe."

And, yes, the people here get free lunches...In the summer, there are 2 main programs. On a year-round basis, local churches help out.

flan

That is name privilege. I bet Ashley gets more call backs than Gertrude. Stop giving your kids names that will not help in the future. Whether it's Luawanda or Bertha that's on the parents.

flan327 wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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Arent your sons more successful than you, Flannie? Even being black?

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1. Define "successful."

2. They are bi-racial.

flan

 

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 So then your sons aren't successful, because they are black?  Is that what you are saying?

THe only race that matters is the human race. How we treat one another as HUMAN BEINGS is what matters. Race has nothing to do with anything. You shouldn't be treated better or worse based on your race. Seems we have lost Dr. King's message that your character is what matters not your color. Liberals divide and divide. Oh, they are Gay so they need different laws than you and me, etc.

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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Arent your sons more successful than you, Flannie? Even being black?

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1. Define "successful."

2. They are bi-racial.

flan

 

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 So then your sons aren't successful, because they are black?  Is that what you are saying?

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 Actually, I am TRYING to figure out what Ohfour meant. Let me know if you have any insights.

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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You keep shaking your head as if you have all the answers. Soooo, let's hear your solutions.

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 I am shaking my head at the willful ignorance displayed by intelligent posters.

flan

We as a human race are better off than the vast majority of humans since the beginning of time. Running water, heat, food, shelter , and on and on. Yet, misery abounds. Why? Yes, there are bad people in the world. There are injustices. The answer to that isn't to live life in a bitter angry way flan. The answer is to be a good person, raise your family and help your local community.

flan327 wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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We as a human race are better off than the vast majority of humans since the beginning of time. Running water, heat, food, shelter , and on and on. Yet, misery abounds. Why? Yes, there are bad people in the world. There are injustices. The answer to that isn't to live life in a bitter angry way flan. The answer is to be a good person, raise your family and help your local community.

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 How does that eliminate racism?

flan

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 Because being a "good person" means treating everyone equally. 

We are not going to eliminate racism in one broad stroke. It will fade out as more and more people make the choice to be a decent human being. 

Divine Geek wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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We as a human race are better off than the vast majority of humans since the beginning of time. Running water, heat, food, shelter , and on and on. Yet, misery abounds. Why? Yes, there are bad people in the world. There are injustices. The answer to that isn't to live life in a bitter angry way flan. The answer is to be a good person, raise your family and help your local community.

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 How does that eliminate racism?

flan

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 Because being a "good person" means treating everyone equally. 

We are not going to eliminate racism in one broad stroke. It will fade out as more and more people make the choice to be a decent human being. 

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 This.  

 

Thank you.

Tinydancer wrote:

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apple wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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Mellow Momma wrote:

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I have a friend whose first name is an ethnic one that goes back hundreds of years in her family. But in order to get a job she has to abbreviate her "ghetto" name and go by her middle name instead. In the meantime, my daughter has an ethnic name that goes back hundreds of years in our family and no one blinks when she puts her real name on applications.

THAT my friends is white privilege.

When someone sees Kate and also KaNeisha on a job application and looks to their qualifications before deciding who gets the phone call...then we can say privilege is gone.

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 So we are supposed to feel sorry that her parents choose to pick that name??

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 That is not the point and you know it.

I've never seen so much subterfuge anywhere as much as this board.

 

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 Subterfuge? If her parents know that an ethic name will hold her back yet still insist on naming her that way then it is most certainly on them. As I said upthread an Ashley gets called back more often than a Gertrude or Bertha so be careful how you name your children or deal with the consequences..

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 Yes SUBTERFUGE, the truth that some won't acknowledge... the simple fact that a person is discriminated against because they have a name that people/employers believe to be of an undesirable ethnicity, culture or race.

Is that so hard to understand and acknowledge? The extent of racism and discrimination that you refuse to admit is a fact and yet you would rather play the blame game.

 

 

-- Edited by apple on Tuesday 12th of July 2016 11:40:54 AM