TOTALLY GEEKED!

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apple wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Stop giving it a voice.

Stop giving racism attention.

Don't live your life in fear of racism.

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 I see, so you believe that if you ignore it, it will go away?

Equality is not something that usually evolves without a little help, and most certainly it does not evolve without acknowledgement. IMO.

 

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a little help?  Affirmative Action?  How much else help do people need?  We are all give the same opportunities.  It's your (general) fault if you don't accept those... 

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 La La Land...

flan

apple wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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apple wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Stop giving it a voice.

Stop giving racism attention.

Don't live your life in fear of racism.

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 I see, so you believe that if you ignore it, it will go away?

Equality is not something that usually evolves without a little help, and most certainly it does not evolve without acknowledgement. IMO.

 

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 Hey.

That's your proposed action plan against terrorism. 

 

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 I notice you didn't actually address the issue, or the topic.

Is that a deflection? Do you want me to explain again how giving ISIS credit for every tragedy only helps to further their cause? Now they are claiming they started the Fort MacMurray fires.

BUT, I digress.  Tell me again how ignoring racism will make it go away?

 

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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apple wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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apple wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Stop giving it a voice.

Stop giving racism attention.

Don't live your life in fear of racism.

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 I see, so you believe that if you ignore it, it will go away?

Equality is not something that usually evolves without a little help, and most certainly it does not evolve without acknowledgement. IMO.

 

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 Hey.

That's your proposed action plan against terrorism. 

 

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 I notice you didn't actually address the issue, or the topic.

Is that a deflection? Do you want me to explain again how giving ISIS credit for every tragedy only helps to further their cause? Now they are claiming they started the Fort MacMurray fires.

BUT, I digress.  Tell me again how ignoring racism will make it go away?

 

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ter·ror·ism

ˈterəˌrizəm/

noun

1. the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

    

    

    

   rac·ism

   ˈrāˌsizəm/

   noun

   1. the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

      • prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

         

         

         

         

        The two go hand in hand.

         

         

        Yet you want to treat them differently. 

         

         

        Hate is hate.

         

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Yes, and BLM is most definitely a terrorist group... 

lilyofcourse wrote:

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apple wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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There are words that are losing their punch.

They get used way too much.

Bully. Racism. Abuse.

This is 2016.

Racism is not the beast it was in 1950.

Yes. Bad people do bad things.

Yes. Racism is not completely dead.

However it isn't the monstrous mountain it once was.

It's past time to stop using skin color as an excuse.

To stop using some mispreceived slight as an excuse.

Stop calling every little thing racism.

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 Can you give me some examples of what exactly you perceive to BE racism and how it exists currently?

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 True racism.

Not being allowed in a building because of your skin tone is racism.

Not getting a job because someone has better qualifications than you is not racism.

Getting shot because you are fighting with an officer is not racism.

Being arrested because you were walking through the "white" side of town is racism.

 

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How would a person know for a fact that someone had better qualifications and it was not because of their skin colour that they didn't get the job?

Fighting with a police officer? If anyone fights with a police officer do they deserve to be shot? Do police approach and treat white people differently than black people?

If a black person driving and expensive car constantly gets pulled over, is it because of his colour?

The problem here is that the only people who can report on racism or racist acts are the same people you discredit as playing the race card so to speak.

apple wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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And if I was black, I would be MUCH more afraid of another black person than the cops. Black people are FAR times more likely to be shot by a black criminal than a cop...

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 Sure, but you are not black. 

Also, as an aside, you should be FAR more afraid of your fellow american with a gun. They are more of a threat to you than ISIS. That is based on fact.

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 Not where I live.  They should be more afraid of me...

apple wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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apple wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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There are words that are losing their punch.

They get used way too much.

Bully. Racism. Abuse.

This is 2016.

Racism is not the beast it was in 1950.

Yes. Bad people do bad things.

Yes. Racism is not completely dead.

However it isn't the monstrous mountain it once was.

It's past time to stop using skin color as an excuse.

To stop using some mispreceived slight as an excuse.

Stop calling every little thing racism.

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 Can you give me some examples of what exactly you perceive to BE racism and how it exists currently?

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 True racism.

Not being allowed in a building because of your skin tone is racism.

Not getting a job because someone has better qualifications than you is not racism.

Getting shot because you are fighting with an officer is not racism.

Being arrested because you were walking through the "white" side of town is racism.

 

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How would a person know for a fact that someone had better qualifications and it was not because of their skin colour that they didn't get the job?

Fighting with a police officer? If anyone fights with a police officer do they deserve to be shot? Do police approach and treat white people differently than black people?

If a black person driving and expensive car constantly gets pulled over, is it because of his colour?

The problem here is that the only people who can report on racism or racist acts are the same people you discredit as playing the race card so to speak.

 

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 1. So I guess we should have to explain in a written letter the deciding factors. 

If a white person gets the job, it must be because they are white.

If a black person gets the job, it must be because they are black.

Where does it end?

2. If you are fighting with an officer and get shot, who is to blame? Perhaps the answer is to not fight with an officer. 

After hearing the stories of relatives and friends over the years, no, they do not approach races differently. Each situation has the potential of being deadly for the officer. People forget that. 

Again, don't break the law.

I have personal experience with this.

That Illinois officer showed zero favoritism when he was on my back, his gun drawn and to my head.

If I had resisted the least little bit, I'd been dead.

And it would have been 100% MY fault.

3. I don't know. What else is he doing? Can he maintain a lane? Is he speeding, not coming to a full stop, not able to maintain his speed? 

People get pulled over all the time. It means no more than a traffic violation. 

4. I don't discredit anyone.

They discredit themselves. 

If you use racism as an excuse for bad behavior, then yes. I don't give it a whole lot of credence.

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apple wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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And if I was black, I would be MUCH more afraid of another black person than the cops. Black people are FAR times more likely to be shot by a black criminal than a cop...

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 Sure, but you are not black. 

Also, as an aside, you should be FAR more afraid of your fellow american with a gun. They are more of a threat to you than ISIS. That is based on fact.

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 Not where I live.  They should be more afraid of me...

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 The only thing I'm afraid of is missing dinner!

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flan327 wrote:

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chef wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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chef wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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chef wrote:

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It's amazing. On the thread about the Pulse shooter declaring he was acting for ISIS, we were told to not feed into ISIS' desire for publicity. Don't mention them. Don't give them what they want - publicity. Don't acknowledge their terrorist acts. Yet, on this thread, we're told that ignoring racism won't help. That we need to recognize racism. That we need to admit it exists. Ironic that we should not give a voice to one bad thing but give a voice to another bad thing.

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 Yep.

It's crazy, ain't it?

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 Very much so.

Something else that's crazy - I saw on FB that the co-founder of BLM said that saying 'all lives matter' is racist. Really? So ONLY black lives matter? No other life matters? Rather arrogant of her. I can't imagine having such a myopic worldview that only allows for the concept that lives within my races are the only important lives. I suppose she doesn't grasp that saying 'all lives matter' includes black lives.

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 You're very skilled at twisting words to try to prove your point...

flan

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 I'm not twisting any words. You've accused me of that a lot lately. Are you ok?

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 Peachy keen, Darlin'.

Just tired of your games.

flan

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 What games?

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 So, Flan, you made an accusation but you won't back it up.

I'm not playing games, Flan. I'm addressing the points made in this thread. You, however, are playing games. Most notably by making accusations just because you don't like what I said.

chef wrote:

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chef wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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chef wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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chef wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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chef wrote:

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It's amazing. On the thread about the Pulse shooter declaring he was acting for ISIS, we were told to not feed into ISIS' desire for publicity. Don't mention them. Don't give them what they want - publicity. Don't acknowledge their terrorist acts. Yet, on this thread, we're told that ignoring racism won't help. That we need to recognize racism. That we need to admit it exists. Ironic that we should not give a voice to one bad thing but give a voice to another bad thing.

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 Yep.

It's crazy, ain't it?

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 Very much so.

Something else that's crazy - I saw on FB that the co-founder of BLM said that saying 'all lives matter' is racist. Really? So ONLY black lives matter? No other life matters? Rather arrogant of her. I can't imagine having such a myopic worldview that only allows for the concept that lives within my races are the only important lives. I suppose she doesn't grasp that saying 'all lives matter' includes black lives.

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 You're very skilled at twisting words to try to prove your point...

flan

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 I'm not twisting any words. You've accused me of that a lot lately. Are you ok?

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 Peachy keen, Darlin'.

Just tired of your games.

flan

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 What games?

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 So, Flan, you made an accusation but you won't back it up.

I'm not playing games, Flan. I'm addressing the points made in this thread. You, however, are playing games. Most notably by making accusations just because you don't like what I said.

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 BACKING IT UP...

It's not WHAT you said, it's HOW you said it.

It's HOW you talk to me 95% of the time.

flan

flan327 wrote:

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chef wrote:

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chef wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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chef wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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chef wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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chef wrote:

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It's amazing. On the thread about the Pulse shooter declaring he was acting for ISIS, we were told to not feed into ISIS' desire for publicity. Don't mention them. Don't give them what they want - publicity. Don't acknowledge their terrorist acts. Yet, on this thread, we're told that ignoring racism won't help. That we need to recognize racism. That we need to admit it exists. Ironic that we should not give a voice to one bad thing but give a voice to another bad thing.

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 Yep.

It's crazy, ain't it?

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 Very much so.

Something else that's crazy - I saw on FB that the co-founder of BLM said that saying 'all lives matter' is racist. Really? So ONLY black lives matter? No other life matters? Rather arrogant of her. I can't imagine having such a myopic worldview that only allows for the concept that lives within my races are the only important lives. I suppose she doesn't grasp that saying 'all lives matter' includes black lives.

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 You're very skilled at twisting words to try to prove your point...

flan

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 I'm not twisting any words. You've accused me of that a lot lately. Are you ok?

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 Peachy keen, Darlin'.

Just tired of your games.

flan

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 What games?

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 So, Flan, you made an accusation but you won't back it up.

I'm not playing games, Flan. I'm addressing the points made in this thread. You, however, are playing games. Most notably by making accusations just because you don't like what I said.

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 BACKING IT UP...

It's not WHAT you said, it's HOW you said it.

It's HOW you talk to me 95% of the time.

flan

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 Thank you for confirming what I said re you make accusations just because you don't like what I said. You can disagree without making an accusation. You can also ask if I could rephrase it. Instead, you choose to be nasty.

As to how I say stuff - When I hear someone say that saying 'all lives matter' is racist, the logical conclusion is that they believe only their racial group's lives matter. You bolded that part of my post so that is why I'm clarifying that part. I gather your accusation of me playing games stems from that part seeing as how I wasn't talking TO you in that post so the 'how you talk to me' part of your post doesn't apply.

How I talk to you? I try to remain respectful in spite of your snark and rudeness. I do fail sometimes. You want people, myself included, to be kinder to you? Be kind to them. Be the example. Treat them as you want to be treated. You CHOOSE to be a jerk.

chef wrote:

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apple wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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Flan, you choose to dwell on the problem rather than the solution. I told you what the solution is. One Nation Under God. That's the solution. One people. Americans. Not hyphenated Americans. Not nursing the grievances of the past but bonding together for the future. Not looking at skin color or what political group they belong too or whether they use paper or plastic bags or eat red meat. Human beings treating other human beings with respect. That's it. Now, you can blather on about black hats and black olives and Black Friday or not.

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 I agree human beings should treat other human beings with respect.

However, ignoring the very real problem of discrimination, does not make it go away.

So what is your solution?

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 Likewise, ignoring ISIS won't make them go away but, iirc, you were one of the posters who said not to give ISIS what they want - publicity.

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 Yes but part of what TERRORISM is all about is creating TERROR. And I do stand by that, they thrive on the publicity and scare tactics.

I am confused as to why people are implying that terrorists and racism are similar. Ignoring racism won't make it go away.  Do you see the difference?

apple wrote:

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chef wrote:

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apple wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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Flan, you choose to dwell on the problem rather than the solution. I told you what the solution is. One Nation Under God. That's the solution. One people. Americans. Not hyphenated Americans. Not nursing the grievances of the past but bonding together for the future. Not looking at skin color or what political group they belong too or whether they use paper or plastic bags or eat red meat. Human beings treating other human beings with respect. That's it. Now, you can blather on about black hats and black olives and Black Friday or not.

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 I agree human beings should treat other human beings with respect.

However, ignoring the very real problem of discrimination, does not make it go away.

So what is your solution?

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 Likewise, ignoring ISIS won't make them go away but, iirc, you were one of the posters who said not to give ISIS what they want - publicity.

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 Yes but part of what TERRORISM is all about is creating TERROR. And I do stand by that, they thrive on the publicity and scare tactics.

I am confused as to why people are implying that terrorists and racism are similar. Ignoring racism won't make it go away.  Do you see the difference?

 

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 BLM is all about dividing people. Their very slogan excludes all lives except black lives from being important. They, too, thrive on publicity. The shooting in Dallas was an act of terrorism. I have no doubt it was intended to scare police into never again stopping a black person. BLM doesn't want unity. If they did, they would effect positive change instead of mercilessly attacking the police. I could've understood (though not condoned) it if they went after the cops that acted wrongly. But cops who had nothing to do with it? Nope. That makes BLM just as bad as what they claim to be fighting. If they want black people to be viewed as individuals instead of all black people are bad then they need to do the same. They need to stop lumping all cops in with the bad apples.

Ignoring terrorism won't make it go away either. Ignoring ISIS isn't going to stop them from committing heinous acts. We can and should report events in a matter of fact manner rather than sensationalizing said events.

I don't see the difference in the way that you're hoping I will/wanting me to. I'm looking at the bigger picture. I want both racism and terrorism to stop. But, they do go hand in hand.

Ohfour wrote:

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flan327 wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

Spoiler

flan327 wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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apple wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Stop giving it a voice.

Stop giving racism attention.

Don't live your life in fear of racism.

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 I see, so you believe that if you ignore it, it will go away?

Equality is not something that usually evolves without a little help, and most certainly it does not evolve without acknowledgement. IMO.

 

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a little help?  Affirmative Action?  How much else help do people need?  We are all give the same opportunities.  It's your (general) fault if you don't accept those... 

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 La La Land...

flan

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No dear, that's your world... 

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QUOTE: We are all given the same opportunities.

Please explain to me HOW a baby born to a teenage mom (with no prenatal care) OR an addict has the SAME "opportunities" as your grandchildren (or mine).

flan

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 1)  babies were born for eons with no pre-natal care.  DD was born to a teenage mother that saw a dr to confirm my pregnancy.  And after that, went to the hospital to deliver.  It's not the end of the world.

2) Most babies born of addict are taken away and placed in state custody.  They get the exact same education that is afforded everyone. 

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 These babies already have two strikes against them.

And I disagree with your second statement.

A social drinker may look "normal," but often FAS is discovered later.

flan

flan327 wrote:

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chef:

I'm done engaging with you on this thread.

We BOTH know what you think I'm "guilty" of...

flan

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What in the world are you talking about?

If you have something to say, say it.

lilyofcourse wrote:

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apple wrote:

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chef wrote:

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apple wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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Flan, you choose to dwell on the problem rather than the solution. I told you what the solution is. One Nation Under God. That's the solution. One people. Americans. Not hyphenated Americans. Not nursing the grievances of the past but bonding together for the future. Not looking at skin color or what political group they belong too or whether they use paper or plastic bags or eat red meat. Human beings treating other human beings with respect. That's it. Now, you can blather on about black hats and black olives and Black Friday or not.

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 I agree human beings should treat other human beings with respect.

However, ignoring the very real problem of discrimination, does not make it go away.

So what is your solution?

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 Likewise, ignoring ISIS won't make them go away but, iirc, you were one of the posters who said not to give ISIS what they want - publicity.

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 Yes but part of what TERRORISM is all about is creating TERROR. And I do stand by that, they thrive on the publicity and scare tactics.

I am confused as to why people are implying that terrorists and racism are similar. Ignoring racism won't make it go away.  Do you see the difference?

 

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 You don't think real racism causes and thrives on terror? 

You don't understand true racism if you can't understand the connection. 

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 I believe we were talking about how people respond (or don't) to racism.

If you are saying that you respond to racism in the same way that you respond to terrorism, I am at a loss for words.

lilyofcourse wrote:

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apple wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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apple wrote:

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chef wrote:

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apple wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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Flan, you choose to dwell on the problem rather than the solution. I told you what the solution is. One Nation Under God. That's the solution. One people. Americans. Not hyphenated Americans. Not nursing the grievances of the past but bonding together for the future. Not looking at skin color or what political group they belong too or whether they use paper or plastic bags or eat red meat. Human beings treating other human beings with respect. That's it. Now, you can blather on about black hats and black olives and Black Friday or not.

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 I agree human beings should treat other human beings with respect.

However, ignoring the very real problem of discrimination, does not make it go away.

So what is your solution?

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 Likewise, ignoring ISIS won't make them go away but, iirc, you were one of the posters who said not to give ISIS what they want - publicity.

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 Yes but part of what TERRORISM is all about is creating TERROR. And I do stand by that, they thrive on the publicity and scare tactics.

I am confused as to why people are implying that terrorists and racism are similar. Ignoring racism won't make it go away.  Do you see the difference?

 

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 You don't think real racism causes and thrives on terror? 

You don't understand true racism if you can't understand the connection. 

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 I believe we were talking about how people respond (or don't) to racism.

If you are saying that you respond to racism in the same way that you respond to terrorism, I am at a loss for words.

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 Honestly, I don't think you know what you're talking about.

I've addressed every one of your points but it seems you want to change the point.

Racism is used far too often as a crutch.

 

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 No Lily, it is you that keeps diverting attention away for the actual point of this thread.

So, does Racism TERRORIZE you? 

lilyofcourse wrote:

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apple wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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apple wrote:

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chef wrote:

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apple wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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Flan, you choose to dwell on the problem rather than the solution. I told you what the solution is. One Nation Under God. That's the solution. One people. Americans. Not hyphenated Americans. Not nursing the grievances of the past but bonding together for the future. Not looking at skin color or what political group they belong too or whether they use paper or plastic bags or eat red meat. Human beings treating other human beings with respect. That's it. Now, you can blather on about black hats and black olives and Black Friday or not.

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 I agree human beings should treat other human beings with respect.

However, ignoring the very real problem of discrimination, does not make it go away.

So what is your solution?

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 Likewise, ignoring ISIS won't make them go away but, iirc, you were one of the posters who said not to give ISIS what they want - publicity.

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 Yes but part of what TERRORISM is all about is creating TERROR. And I do stand by that, they thrive on the publicity and scare tactics.

I am confused as to why people are implying that terrorists and racism are similar. Ignoring racism won't make it go away.  Do you see the difference?

 

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 You don't think real racism causes and thrives on terror? 

You don't understand true racism if you can't understand the connection. 

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 I believe we were talking about how people respond (or don't) to racism.

If you are saying that you respond to racism in the same way that you respond to terrorism, I am at a loss for words.

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 Honestly, I don't think you know what you're talking about.

I've addressed every one of your points but it seems you want to change the point.

Racism is used far too often as a crutch.

 

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She will never understand...no matter how many of us try to spell it out.  It's a mental block. We all know what you are talking about.  Don't waste your time.  Either she is willfully being obtuse or she really doesn't have the comprehension.  There's not anything more that anyone can do...

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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No.

Racism does not scare me in the least.

Not the things you like to call racism.

Traffic stops, jobs, not being waited on first, having to wait a little longer is not racism.

That's just life.

Real racism, that does scare me.

Again, I've actually seen reen real racism.

Real racism thrives on fear.

Take the KKK, do you think the white hoods give black people the warm fuzzies?

No. It's scary.

Now, tell me, have YOU ever seen true racism, or just daily happenings?

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 Okay you are going from one extreme to the other.

Is the KKK a terrorist like group, yes it is. Okay we've settled that.

Now, can we talk about racism, the kind felt by blacks on a daily basis? Or are you saying it doesn't exist?

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 No less than whites.

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apple wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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No.

Racism does not scare me in the least.

Not the things you like to call racism.

Traffic stops, jobs, not being waited on first, having to wait a little longer is not racism.

That's just life.

Real racism, that does scare me.

Again, I've actually seen reen real racism.

Real racism thrives on fear.

Take the KKK, do you think the white hoods give black people the warm fuzzies?

No. It's scary.

Now, tell me, have YOU ever seen true racism, or just daily happenings?

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 Okay you are going from one extreme to the other.

Is the KKK a terrorist like group, yes it is. Okay we've settled that.

Now, can we talk about racism, the kind felt by blacks on a daily basis? Or are you saying it doesn't exist?

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 No less than whites.

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Really, how so?

apple wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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apple wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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apple wrote:

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chef wrote:

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apple wrote:

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

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Flan, you choose to dwell on the problem rather than the solution. I told you what the solution is. One Nation Under God. That's the solution. One people. Americans. Not hyphenated Americans. Not nursing the grievances of the past but bonding together for the future. Not looking at skin color or what political group they belong too or whether they use paper or plastic bags or eat red meat. Human beings treating other human beings with respect. That's it. Now, you can blather on about black hats and black olives and Black Friday or not.

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 I agree human beings should treat other human beings with respect.

However, ignoring the very real problem of discrimination, does not make it go away.

So what is your solution?

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 Likewise, ignoring ISIS won't make them go away but, iirc, you were one of the posters who said not to give ISIS what they want - publicity.

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 Yes but part of what TERRORISM is all about is creating TERROR. And I do stand by that, they thrive on the publicity and scare tactics.

I am confused as to why people are implying that terrorists and racism are similar. Ignoring racism won't make it go away.  Do you see the difference?

 

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 You don't think real racism causes and thrives on terror? 

You don't understand true racism if you can't understand the connection. 

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 I believe we were talking about how people respond (or don't) to racism.

If you are saying that you respond to racism in the same way that you respond to terrorism, I am at a loss for words.

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 Honestly, I don't think you know what you're talking about.

I've addressed every one of your points but it seems you want to change the point.

Racism is used far too often as a crutch.

 

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She will never understand...no matter how many of us try to spell it out.  It's a mental block. We all know what you are talking about.  Don't waste your time.  Either she is willfully being obtuse or she really doesn't have the comprehension.  There's not anything more that anyone can do...

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If you have something to say to me, you really should just say it to me.

This sort of backhanded comment about a person who is actively posting on this thread (ME) is really indicative of your lack of manners and your desire to feel better about yourself by putting others down.

 

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 I've tried. We all have. I was just telling Lily not to waste her breath. Nothing any of us say will make you realize that you are absolutely wrong. 

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 I believe we were talking about how people respond (or don't) to racism.

If you are saying that you respond to racism in the same way that you respond to terrorism, I am at a loss for words.

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 Honestly, I don't think you know what you're talking about.

I've addressed every one of your points but it seems you want to change the point.

Racism is used far too often as a crutch.

 

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She will never understand...no matter how many of us try to spell it out.  It's a mental block. We all know what you are talking about.  Don't waste your time.  Either she is willfully being obtuse or she really doesn't have the comprehension.  There's not anything more that anyone can do...

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If you have something to say to me, you really should just say it to me.

This sort of backhanded comment about a person who is actively posting on this thread (ME) is really indicative of your lack of manners and your desire to feel better about yourself by putting others down.

 

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 I've tried. We all have. I was just telling Lily not to waste her breath. Nothing any of us say will make you realize that you are absolutely wrong. 

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 Oh, I know exactly what you were doing.

lilyofcourse wrote:

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apple wrote:

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lilyofcourse wrote:

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Daily racism? Really?

What is daily racism?

Maybe give me YOUR thoughts on what daily racism is.

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 Daily racism, that would be the experiences or happenings that happen to black people as a result of racist people, employers etc.

Do you not believe that racism exists? I can provide you with a host of websites where people list off the many racist things that happen to them, daily, in America. Or you could look it up yourself, or heck...ask a black person.

I do have friends who I have been with when they are dealt with differently, because, and only because , of their colour.

 

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 So nothing specific , just general "what ifs".

Give me real examples.

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 You yourself said you have seen for yourself examples of racism. 

Now you act like it doesn't happen. I'm sorry but I think I am done with this discussion as we seem to be getting nowhere. If you want to believe that racist acts don't occur daily, so be it. I happen to believe otherwise.