TOTALLY GEEKED!

The infamous "wardrobe malfunction" at the Super Bowl is a good example.

Did anyone expect to see a boobs during that half time show?

Look at the award shows.

How many times have you been watching and a performer or performance is not what you expected?

And those are on TV with FCC regulations and restrictions.

A live show at the arena isn't regulated in any way.

I do not like censorship.

But I do like information that helps me make better decisions.

I think the rating is implied in the price. If you can afford it with money you earned, you are old enough to go. Has anyone seen th prices of concerts lately?

I remember when 20 bucks for a two band concert was HIGH!

Lawyerlady wrote:

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I think it's the parents' job to determine if a concert may be appropriate - not the government.

And if you let your kid listen to the music and watch the videos - then what difference does it make?

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No one is asking the government to do it though. 

And again, Miley Cyrus's music is total pop.  It's her shows that are the problem... 

There are websites that give scene-by-scene ratings/reviews, accounting for every cigarette smoked, every foul word used and how often, etc. Maybe they have them for concerts, too, but I haven't looked. That would be helpful.

Ohfour wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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I think it's the parents' job to determine if a concert may be appropriate - not the government.

And if you let your kid listen to the music and watch the videos - then what difference does it make?

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No one is asking the government to do it though. 

And again, Miley Cyrus's music is total pop.  It's her shows that are the problem... 

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 And parents who pay attention know that. 

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Maybe they do.  Maybe kids do things without their parents knowing.  A 16 year old kid can't get into a rated R movie.  They shouldn't be able to get into a rated R concert either... 

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 A rated R movie is going to have nudity and/or killing in it - neither of which is going to be at a concert.  A 16 year old should be able to handle a concert.

I wouldn't let DD go to a Miley Cyrus concert when she came to Atlanta, but if she was 16, I wouldn't have cared. 

Lawyerlady wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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I think it's the parents' job to determine if a concert may be appropriate - not the government.

And if you let your kid listen to the music and watch the videos - then what difference does it make?

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No one is asking the government to do it though. 

And again, Miley Cyrus's music is total pop.  It's her shows that are the problem... 

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 And parents who pay attention know that. 

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Maybe they do.  Maybe kids do things without their parents knowing.  A 16 year old kid can't get into a rated R movie.  They shouldn't be able to get into a rated R concert either... 

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 A rated R movie is going to have nudity and/or killing in it - neither of which is going to be at a concert.  A 16 year old should be able to handle a concert.

I wouldn't let DD go to a Miley Cyrus concert when she came to Atlanta, but if she was 16, I wouldn't have cared. 

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 You haven't been to many concerts have you?  There are quite a few that have nudity...

Ohfour wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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I think it's the parents' job to determine if a concert may be appropriate - not the government.

And if you let your kid listen to the music and watch the videos - then what difference does it make?

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No one is asking the government to do it though. 

And again, Miley Cyrus's music is total pop.  It's her shows that are the problem... 

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 And parents who pay attention know that. 

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Maybe they do.  Maybe kids do things without their parents knowing.  A 16 year old kid can't get into a rated R movie.  They shouldn't be able to get into a rated R concert either... 

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 A rated R movie is going to have nudity and/or killing in it - neither of which is going to be at a concert.  A 16 year old should be able to handle a concert.

I wouldn't let DD go to a Miley Cyrus concert when she came to Atlanta, but if she was 16, I wouldn't have cared. 

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 You haven't been to many concerts have you?  There are quite a few that have nudity...

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 I've been to a lot of concerts.  But the kind that would have all that have never appealed to me, so why would I go?  I know which ones to avoid based on common sense - I don't need someone to tell me. 

Ohfour wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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I think it's the parents' job to determine if a concert may be appropriate - not the government.

And if you let your kid listen to the music and watch the videos - then what difference does it make?

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No one is asking the government to do it though. 

And again, Miley Cyrus's music is total pop.  It's her shows that are the problem... 

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 And parents who pay attention know that. 

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Maybe they do.  Maybe kids do things without their parents knowing.  A 16 year old kid can't get into a rated R movie.  They shouldn't be able to get into a rated R concert either... 

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 A rated R movie is going to have nudity and/or killing in it - neither of which is going to be at a concert.  A 16 year old should be able to handle a concert.

I wouldn't let DD go to a Miley Cyrus concert when she came to Atlanta, but if she was 16, I wouldn't have cared. 

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 You haven't been to many concerts have you?  There are quite a few that have nudity...

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 I've been to a lot of concerts.  But the kind that would have all that have never appealed to me, so why would I go?  I know which ones to avoid based on common sense - I don't need someone to tell me. 

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Again, it's not about you. it's about a 15 or 16 year old.  They can't watch rater R movies, why should they be able to watch a rated R concert? 

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 I don't think any concert would get a rated R rating based on today's standards.  

Lawyerlady wrote:

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I think it's the parents' job to determine if a concert may be appropriate - not the government.

And if you let your kid listen to the music and watch the videos - then what difference does it make?

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 I agree.

Which is why the irony in this thread is delicious.

flan

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You would be wrong...

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 Then don't let your kid go.  

I think it's important to understand the difference in concerts we are talking about.

Chances are, if you are taking your child to the show, it isnt a show to worry about.

But if your kid is old enough to go on their own, you probably don't really know much about the artist.

Taylor Swift is a long way from Marilyn Manson.

I think a rating system could help everyone.

Help venues decide if they want to rent out to a band.

Help city officials know what to expect around the concert site.

Help the one buying the ticket decide if they want to go.

It isn't about anything but having more information.

Ohfour wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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Ohfour wrote:

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You would be wrong...

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 Then don't let your kid go.  

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Yeah, cause that's gonna stop them... 

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 It's just like anything else you have taught them not to do.  Either they respect your wishes or they don't.  And really, I'd rather they sneak off to a concert or sneak into a rated R movie than some of the other stuff they could do.  

 

There is nothing at a concert that a young person hasn't already seen on youtube, snapchat, any other social media or the internet itself.

Its up to parents, when you have a tween, check out the band before buying tickets.

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Ummm.... I beg to differ.

I'm thinking about the smaller concerts too.

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To what do you "differ"?

That teens haven't seen just about everything online or that parents should be checking out concerts or bands before purchasing tickets.

Music is a big deal for me and my kids enjoy it too.  When they turn 13 I take them to their first Concert. Ya and we have a great time. :) After that, as they get older I understand they don't want to hang out with mom so much. lol

 

 

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That there is nothing in a concert a teen hasn't already seen.

Sorry. But there are.

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 Really? Because teens have pretty much open access to social media and the internet.

You can't argue that. Even if they are not online at home, it is available to them almost everywhere.

I am reminded of the Catholic rating system regarding the movies. It was dropped at some point, but many people, adults and kids alike used to abide by it. It was from people with a defined set of values set forth for possibly like minded people.
That is not to say that some teens, on seeing whatever the R type ratings where did not make immediate plans to go hit the movies that night after saying they were headed to the Library.

My point is just that whatever body would be entrusted to have a rating system would have to have defined rules . Singers, performance artists have, as some here can comment on as professionals (not me) have play lists and plans for the performance. But there may be times when there is a certain amount of improvisation. How do we RATE that? Would the artist have to sign a contract saying we will not slip into something else?

Clearly not realistic.

I remember Jon Stewart coming to a local venue. He made it clear in his own shows and in the televised promos he did that this show was for adults, not kids. He was horrified to see young children, clearly brought and accompanied by parents at his show. Bob Saget, the kindly father in full house, works as a very 'blue' act.
This information is out there, if you want to find it.

Another regulation, no thank you.

If you can think, you can avoid things that offend you.

aergia wrote:

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I am reminded of the Catholic rating system regarding the movies. It was dropped at some point, but many people, adults and kids alike used to abide by it. It was from people with a defined set of values set forth for possibly like minded people.
That is not to say that some teens, on seeing whatever the R type ratings where did not make immediate plans to go hit the movies that night after saying they were headed to the Library.

My point is just that whatever body would be entrusted to have a rating system would have to have defined rules . Singers, performance artists have, as some here can comment on as professionals (not me) have play lists and plans for the performance. But there may be times when there is a certain amount of improvisation. How do we RATE that? Would the artist have to sign a contract saying we will not slip into something else?

Clearly not realistic.

I remember Jon Stewart coming to a local venue. He made it clear in his own shows and in the televised promos he did that this show was for adults, not kids. He was horrified to see young children, clearly brought and accompanied by parents at his show. Bob Saget, the kindly father in full house, works as a very 'blue' act.
This information is out there, if you want to find it.

Another regulation, no thank you.

If you can think, you can avoid things that offend you.

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My husband's band has a song that has some pretty offensive lyrics. Some places will not let them play that song. Per the contract, they could be heavily fined if they do...

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 I don't think people who haven't seen the inner workings of what gets a concert into a venue would understand what we do.

Granted, I don't have the experience on the scale you do.

But I've seen some pretty serious restrictions as well as some really loose "rules".

 

Like I said, I've been to concerts with some seriously twisted shows and you wouldn't expect it, and I've been to some where you would expect it but they were as tame as a kiddie cartoon.

As a non-concert person, a ratings system would help me determine if I want to go. I've only been to one concert (not including symphony-type concerts) and was less than impressed with the behavior of the crowd. The band that played was Rush. Perhaps that behavior is standard for their concerts. I don't know. But I was disgusted at some of the things I saw.

You haven't been to many concerts have you? There are quite a few that have nudity...
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I'd heard about some act in Brazil or somewhere that had nudity, but I've never heard of it happening in the US before this post.

Red Hot Chili Peppers.

Performed in a tube sock.

Yeah.

Flea.

Ew.