Lmao. If Michelle Obama posed nude you would all be up in arms and calling her a whore at best.
Give me a break.
And LL stop trying to interpret my words to your own twisted meaning.
-- Edited by apple on Sunday 24th of July 2016 02:18:02 AM
You are laughable. You might want to stop telling us how we'd feel about things. LL is not twisting your words. You just don't like what you sound like when she repeats it back to you.
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If anyone posed nude in the Oval Office or while in office I would have a problem. But if one's profession prior to taking office was that of a model, then who cares, really. Unless it was a porn model.
Since Michelle Obama first became the First Lady of the United States, criticism of basically everything about her has been rampant among right-wing voters with racist and sexist undertones. Among this criticism is the accusation that Mrs. Obama “doesn’t look or act” like a First Lady, apparently because of her sense of fashion, which includes sleeveless dresses.
In two famous interviews with Al Shapiro from NPR at Mitt Romney events in 2012, a Virginia voter Bobbie Lussier summed up how Republicans feel about Mrs. Obama’s image. She stated that, “I mean, can you imagine you know, Kennedys or the Bushes or anybody doing pushups on the floor? I mean you know. That’s just not a first lady.” Lussier further said, “They talk about more like her dresses and how she looks and stuff and her arms and whatever. […] You see her walking around in shorts, and you know, just real casual wear.”
So not only is it inappropriate for Michelle to wear sleeveless dresses to any functions or shorts when she’s on vacation in very hot locales, but she is criticized for doing push-ups and encouraging Americans to live a healthy lifestyle. Although Mrs. Obama is one of the smartest and most educated First Ladies of all time, she is constantly put down for her appearance by allegedly religious and conservative voters. Additionally, Jackie Kennedy herself, who was referenced by Lussier, also wore sleeveless dresses.
Melania Trump on the other hand, whose husband is the current front-runner for the Republican party, has received no criticism for not being a suitable future First Lady based on her appearance or history of racy photoshoots. This seems to indicate that the conservative voters were only criticizing Mrs. Obama not because it isn’t “First Lady-like” or because it goes against their conservative, religious views, but simply because she is a Democrat and maybe even because she’s African American and that in itself is not suitable.
apple - I think you have what the media says confused with what posters here say.
Yes, people have commented about way too casual dressing BY THE FIRST LADY, but what does that have to do with how someone who is not on display as the the First Lady dresses?
Michelle Obama IS the First Lady, and she is expected to dress well, and to represent the White House, where she lives, respectably.
What a potential first lady did during her JOB 10 years ago has nothing to do with that. You can bet we'd all have plenty to say if she was posing like that WHILE First Lady. But she isn't and hasn't been.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
I have witnessed here plenty of negative remarks about what Hillary has done, before she was First Lady or even in politics. So seemingly her entire life is up for you to criticize.
Now you change the rules to suit your agenda. Its okay WHATEVER a person does before they are first lady?
Melania is in the running to be first lady, I have nothing against her, but I find the hypocrisy to be nauseating as usual.
I believe quite rightfully that if Michelle Obama had nude photos in her past, they would have been used by republicans to trash her while Obama was in the running for President.
But go ahead and deny. I'm pretty used to that type of behavior here.
I have witnessed here plenty of negative remarks about what Hillary has done, before she was First Lady or even in politics. So seemingly her entire life is up for you to criticize.
Now you change the rules to suit your agenda. Its okay WHATEVER a person does before they are first lady?
Melania is in the running to be first lady, I have nothing against her, but I find the hypocrisy to be nauseating as usual.
I believe quite rightfully that if Michelle Obama had nude photos in her past, they would have been used by republicans to trash her while Obama was in the running for President.
But go ahead and deny. I'm pretty used to that type of behavior here.
Believe what you want. You are incapable of understanding context.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
I have witnessed here plenty of negative remarks about what Hillary has done, before she was First Lady or even in politics. So seemingly her entire life is up for you to criticize.
Now you change the rules to suit your agenda. Its okay WHATEVER a person does before they are first lady?
Melania is in the running to be first lady, I have nothing against her, but I find the hypocrisy to be nauseating as usual.
I believe quite rightfully that if Michelle Obama had nude photos in her past, they would have been used by republicans to trash her while Obama was in the running for President.
But go ahead and deny. I'm pretty used to that type of behavior here.
Believe what you want. You are incapable of understanding context.
Right?
Hillary was and still is a crook. Criminal activity does not compare whatsoever to a swimsuit picture...
Jeeze, if you can't understand the difference, there really is no helping you...
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I have witnessed here plenty of negative remarks about what Hillary has done, before she was First Lady or even in politics. So seemingly her entire life is up for you to criticize.
Now you change the rules to suit your agenda. Its okay WHATEVER a person does before they are first lady?
Melania is in the running to be first lady, I have nothing against her, but I find the hypocrisy to be nauseating as usual.
I believe quite rightfully that if Michelle Obama had nude photos in her past, they would have been used by republicans to trash her while Obama was in the running for President.
But go ahead and deny. I'm pretty used to that type of behavior here.
Have you EVER acknowledged your negative remarks? You are not all sparkles and rainbow farts no matter what you might think. Thinking you know how we feel or would react to something is annoying as hell. Stop thinking you know what I would say or do because you have no clue. If you want to think Melanie posing nude somehow makes her unqualified to be First Lady then just admit it and stop trying to make it wjhat WE feel...sheesh
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I'm simply pointing one of the hypocritical things I see here.
Perhaps it may bode well to be a little self aware? You must see that what I have pointed out is true. Its one set of rules for your side and another set of rules for the other.
And no, I'm not a Hillary fan, I don't dislike Melania, its about being intellectually honest with yourself.
I'm simply pointing one of the hypocritical things I see here.
Perhaps it may bode well to be a little self aware? You must see that what I have pointed out is true. Its one set of rules for your side and another set of rules for the other.
And no, I'm not a Hillary fan, I don't dislike Melania, its about being intellectually honest with yourself.
Oh, please with your contrived indignation. The libs are THE WORST at double standards.
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I'm simply pointing one of the hypocritical things I see here.
Perhaps it may bode well to be a little self aware? You must see that what I have pointed out is true. Its one set of rules for your side and another set of rules for the other.
And no, I'm not a Hillary fan, I don't dislike Melania, its about being intellectually honest with yourself.
I'm beginning to think you don't know what that means.
And you are constantly making up how you THINK we would respond in order to make points about hypocrisy. It's ridiculous.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
I don't have a problem with the sleeveless dresses.
Look at her arms!
If my arms looked like that, I'd show them off too!
And some of the dresses M. Obama has worn are great and some are not.
She has a stylist and you can tell when the stylist wins.
I doubt that Melania even THOUGHT about a life as a first lady 10 years ago.
She was a working model.
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I don't have a problem with the sleeveless dresses.
Look at her arms!
If my arms looked like that, I'd show them off too!
And some of the dresses M. Obama has worn are great and some are not.
She has a stylist and you can tell when the stylist wins.
I doubt that Melania even THOUGHT about a life as a first lady 10 years ago.
She was a working model.
I agree, I would imagine it wasn't on her list of things to do. :)
Regardless, my point is, if Michelle had nude photos in her past, they would have been brought up and trashed, as would she have been, while her husband ran for office.
If someone would just admit that, I'll stop bringing it up.
Regardless, my point is, if Michelle had nude photos in her past, they would have been brought up and trashed, as would she have been, while her husband ran for office.
If someone would just admit that, I'll stop bringing it up.
Eight years ago it might have been an issue. I'm not sure it would be today. Standards have changed. Expectations lowered. There was a time when having a history of smoking marijuana would have disqualified you from employment with DEA or FBI. Now they would be hard-pressed to find an applicant that never imbibed.
Now even this photo didn't seem to have fazed the American public:
Regardless, my point is, if Michelle had nude photos in her past, they would have been brought up and trashed, as would she have been, while her husband ran for office.
If someone would just admit that, I'll stop bringing it up.
Still waiting.... for an honest person to admit it.
If you have a problem with it that's on you apple. I'm not going to admit to holding it against anyone, Democrat or Republican, but just continue because you look idiotic repeating yourself over and over again.
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Regardless, my point is, if Michelle had nude photos in her past, they would have been brought up and trashed, as would she have been, while her husband ran for office.
If someone would just admit that, I'll stop bringing it up.
Still waiting.... for an honest person to admit it.
Wait until the cows come home. No on really cares what you think they should admit to.
Bring it up all you want. Ever heard the definition of insanity, because this is a classic example...
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Regardless, my point is, if Michelle had nude photos in her past, they would have been brought up and trashed, as would she have been, while her husband ran for office.
If someone would just admit that, I'll stop bringing it up.
Still waiting.... for an honest person to admit it.
Regardless, my point is, if Michelle had nude photos in her past, they would have been brought up and trashed, as would she have been, while her husband ran for office.
If someone would just admit that, I'll stop bringing it up.
Still waiting.... for an honest person to admit it.
Not if they were a professional shoot of a model. But since Michelle was never a model, any nude photos of her would likely be scandalous in nature, and not professional.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Regardless, my point is, if Michelle had nude photos in her past, they would have been brought up and trashed, as would she have been, while her husband ran for office.
If someone would just admit that, I'll stop bringing it up.
Still waiting.... for an honest person to admit it.
Yes because you know exactly what everyone else would think or feel... You can't admit you don't have a freaking clue.
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I think social media has numbed society to a lot of things once considered scandalous, too. Had social media existed in the 1980's, I think the media would have been all over Nancy Reagan's past if what was revealed about her in Peter Lawford's story was at all true. Back then, it might have destroyed the Reagan campaign. Now, it would be chalked up to a misspent youth or "experimentation," if you will. Or at least had they ran on the democratic ticket, that's the spin they would have given it. Much like Lena Dunham, the woman who admitted to sexually abusing her sister, speaking at the DNC.
So what you are saying LL is that if Michelle Obama had "professional" photos taken of her prior to her husband running for office, you and like minded republicans would not have brought it up, would not have trashed talked her and it would not be an issue AT ALL?
-- Edited by apple on Monday 25th of July 2016 03:12:41 PM
It just cracks me up. The liberals are the ones all for doing everything you want, and damn the moral decline of society, and then they get all offended because the Republicans don't care about Melania's modeling career.
It's like they CAN'T be offended b/c of their liberal leanings, so they want us to be, and when we are not, they don't know what to do.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Regardless, my point is, if Michelle had nude photos in her past, they would have been brought up and trashed, as would she have been, while her husband ran for office.
If someone would just admit that, I'll stop bringing it up.
Still waiting.... for an honest person to admit it, anyone???
I think social media has numbed society to a lot of things once considered scandalous, too. Had social media existed in the 1980's, I think the media would have been all over Nancy Reagan's past if what was revealed about her in Peter Lawford's story was at all true. Back then, it might have destroyed the Reagan campaign. Now, it would be chalked up to a misspent youth or "experimentation," if you will. Or at least had they ran on the democratic ticket, that's the spin they would have given it. Much like Lena Dunham, the woman who admitted to sexually abusing her sister, speaking at the DNC.
Right? The libs actually REVERE child molesters!!!!!! You can't make this schitt up!!!!!!!
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So what you are saying LL is that if Michelle Obama had "professional" photos take of her prior to her husband running for office, you and like minded republicans would not have brought it up, would not have trashed talked her and it would not be an issue AT ALL?
This is not the 1900s, apple. That picture was posted on billboards, apple. (I have no idea what the other 3 pictures were - they are not showing up). But, no, if Michelle Obama had been a professional model posing as part of her job - I would not have cared.
If I cared, I would have trash talked Melania, since the Donald was not my first choice as a candidate and I did not vote for him in the primary.
But nice try.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Regardless, my point is, if Michelle had nude photos in her past, they would have been brought up and trashed, as would she have been, while her husband ran for office.
If someone would just admit that, I'll stop bringing it up.
Still waiting.... for an honest person to admit it, anyone???
Insanity....
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America guarantees equal opportunity, not equal outcome...
Regardless, my point is, if Michelle had nude photos in her past, they would have been brought up and trashed, as would she have been, while her husband ran for office.
If someone would just admit that, I'll stop bringing it up.
Still waiting.... for an honest person to admit it, anyone???
You can post it as many times as you'd like. The TRUTH is apple, that except for Gaga, I don't believe Trump was anyone's first choice for the Republican candidate. If we cared, we most certainly would have trash talked his wife for posing nude during the primary season.
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LawyerLady
I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Regardless, my point is, if Michelle had nude photos in her past, they would have been brought up and trashed, as would she have been, while her husband ran for office.
If someone would just admit that, I'll stop bringing it up.
Still waiting.... for an honest person to admit it, anyone???
Still waiting for you to admit you're wrong....
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“Until I discovered cooking, I was never really interested in anything.” ― Julia Child ―
Regardless, my point is, if Michelle had nude photos in her past, they would have been brought up and trashed, as would she have been, while her husband ran for office.
If someone would just admit that, I'll stop bringing it up.
Still waiting.... for an honest person to admit it, anyone???
WTF are you talking about? Making made up sh!t up? Alrighty then.
Yikes.
-- Edited by TrudyML on Monday 25th of July 2016 03:19:13 PM