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Q. Difficult adult son: My 20-year-old son has started hanging around kids that do drugs, have multiple piercings, tattoos, etc. I know he is smoking marijuana, but I am terrified that his habit will turn into something worse such as heroin or meth. He avoids me as much as possible and won’t answer phone calls or texts from his father at all (we are divorced). He will be 21 next month. What can I do legally to either get him out of this town and away from these friends or get him some help, which he would not voluntarily attend. He is an adult after all. I can’t sleep over this.

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A: I encourage you to seek therapy to deal with these overwhelming feelings. A 20-year-old man who smokes marijuana and has tattooed friends is not an emergency, and your panicked fears that his weed-smoking will turn into a heroin addiction is completely unfounded, and if you are considering trying to separate your son from his friends, move him out of town, or get him into treatment he appears not to need in the least, I understand why he avoids you as much as possible. I’m sure you care for him a great deal, but your paranoia about perfectly normal youthful behavior isn’t protecting your son—it’s pushing him away. You should not be losing sleep over this—something’s wrong, but it’s not your son. Seek help for your obsessive thoughts, and allow your son to grow up and turn into his own person, separate from either you or his father.



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Where does the son live? Who is funding his tattooed lifestlye? One time my son asked about getting tattoos and piercings. I told him that the day he does that is the day he has too much disposable income and that is the day he will be moving out as i am not going to fund that nonsense. If you want tattoos, i don't have a problem with that, but not on my dime. If you are a self sufficient adult paying your own bills, then go for it. If you are still living off the bank of mommy and daddy, then no.
So, first of all to the LW, you cut him off financially. Duh. You can't buy drugs if you have no money.

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I really don't like this Prudie.

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I really don't like this Prudie.


 Me neither.  She has no real life experience as in raising children , etc.  And, she shoves her gay agenda down your gullet and up your arse.



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Huh.

Well.

While there is no drugs or alcohol involved, Caitlyn has a tattoo and a couple piercings now.

I'm not thrilled with these choices.

But, she is working, paying her bills, and is probably the most grounded 21 year old I know of.

As for the OP, mom's generally have a good gut instinct when it comes to their kids.

She knows something isn't right.

But, other than cutting him off if she is supporting him, and lots of prayer, what can she do?

At some point, she might be able to force him into detox, but that isn't always easily done, and until HE wants to stop using, he wont.



-- Edited by lilyofcourse on Wednesday 27th of July 2016 07:46:17 AM

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Also - the child might not be an actual "adult", yet, depending on the state. There are still a few states where the age of majority is 21.

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The tattoos aren't the problem. It is the drug use that is the big problem. However, i would object to tattoos and piercings if you are still eating off of my cow.

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I think Prudie's response is ridiculous. She's basically attacking the mother. A mother has the right to be concerned about her child's drug use.

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I hate this Prudie.

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I don't know, Prudie may be right on this one. I know two ladies who had tattoos and smoked pot in their late teens/early twenties.
They are both doctors now with lovely families and good jobs.
It really isn't the end of the world like the LW seems to think.

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Who said it's the end of the world? She juat doesn't have to subsidize it. Yeah a few turn into doctors and lawyers. Most however do not suddenly become motuvated.

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Who said it's the end of the world? She juat doesn't have to subsidize it. Yeah a few turn into doctors and lawyers. Most however do not suddenly become motuvated.


I don't see where she is subsidizing anything.  He may very well be out on his own.   



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I think the mother is over reacting but I think Prudie's response is very judgmental.

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Who said it's the end of the world? She juat doesn't have to subsidize it. Yeah a few turn into doctors and lawyers. Most however do not suddenly become motuvated.


 The LW is one considering having her adult son involuntarily committed to a treatment program. Because of marijuana and tattoos. 

The people running an inpatient treatment facility would laugh their butts off. 



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Well I believe the mother is worried about not only the weed and tattoos but his friends and disrespectful attitude towards his parents.

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I would need more info. Is he out on his own? If so if he is working and paying his bills a little pot isn't a big deal. I know a lot of successful people that smoke it.
If he's like going under her roof then she can refuse to support him and time for him to bounce.

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My guess is he's living under her roof and keeping his stash there, regardless of whether he's smoking it there. How else would she know about it? And if he is living there, and he's disrespectful--well, he'd be finding a new roof to live under.

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I do understand why the mother is concerned. At 20 he should be going to college or a trade school and thinking about his future not partying like a 15 yr old. There should be a PA announcement to not ask prude parenting advice.

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Prudie still thinks like a teenager herself.

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I think she should meet his friends before she makes judgements. In all likelihood they are perfectly fine people, maybe that would ease her mind a bit.

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I think she should meet his friends before she makes judgements. In all likelihood they are perfectly fine people, maybe that would ease her mind a bit.


 Who's to say she hasn't?



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Who said it's the end of the world? She juat doesn't have to subsidize it. Yeah a few turn into doctors and lawyers. Most however do not suddenly become motuvated.


 You have to watch out for those dastardly lawyers. They think they are above the law and do things like hard drugs and drink heavily.



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Who said it's the end of the world? She juat doesn't have to subsidize it. Yeah a few turn into doctors and lawyers. Most however do not suddenly become motuvated.


 You have to watch out for those dastardly lawyers. They think they are above the law and do things like hard drugs and drink heavily.


 Motrin is a hard drug, now?



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I judge. And I'm proud of it. Until my dying breath, I will judge anyone or anything that may or might have an affect on my children.


 Yep.  I realize some people don't care about pot, or hanging out with people with no ambition, drive or who don't care about their future.  But when it comes to my kid - I care.  I want them to surround themselves with positive or neutral influences, not negative ones. 



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I judge. And I'm proud of it. Until my dying breath, I will judge anyone or anything that may or might have an affect on my children.


 Yep.  I realize some people don't care about pot, or hanging out with people with no ambition, drive or who don't care about their future.  But when it comes to my kid - I care.  I want them to surround themselves with positive or neutral influences, not negative ones. 


But this isn't a kid.  This is a grown man.  No wonder he's like he is.  She's cray cray... 



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She might be. But he sounds like he needs a wake-up call.

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I judge. And I'm proud of it. Until my dying breath, I will judge anyone or anything that may or might have an affect on my children.


 Yep.  I realize some people don't care about pot, or hanging out with people with no ambition, drive or who don't care about their future.  But when it comes to my kid - I care.  I want them to surround themselves with positive or neutral influences, not negative ones. 


But this isn't a kid.  This is a grown man.  No wonder he's like he is.  She's cray cray... 


 Not if he's still living with Mommy.



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Time to start charging the kiddo rent money.

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Who said it's the end of the world? She juat doesn't have to subsidize it. Yeah a few turn into doctors and lawyers. Most however do not suddenly become motuvated.


I don't see where she is subsidizing anything.  He may very well be out on his own.   


 If he is, then there is really nothing she can do.  However, if he is using illegal substances, he is putting his job at risk.



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
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Who said it's the end of the world? She juat doesn't have to subsidize it. Yeah a few turn into doctors and lawyers. Most however do not suddenly become motuvated.


I don't see where she is subsidizing anything.  He may very well be out on his own.   


 If he is, then there is really nothing she can do.  However, if he is using illegal substances, he is putting his job at risk.


That depends on where he lives... 



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If he is self sufficient, it is his life. But i don't know a lot of 20 yr olds who can afford tattoos, piercings and drugs who are paying their own way.

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

If he is self sufficient, it is his life. But i don't know a lot of 20 yr olds who can afford tattoos, piercings and drugs who are paying their own way.


 I know plenty of them. 

DS being one of them. 



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If he is self sufficient, it is his life. But i don't know a lot of 20 yr olds who can afford tattoos, piercings and drugs who are paying their own way.


 I know plenty of them. 

DS being one of them. 


 True that.



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Alrighty then. I dont.

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I don't know of any either. Tattoos & piercings, yes. Smoking pot, probably. But hanging out with people who do drugs (she didn't say what kind and since her fear leads to heroin I'm guessing they are into hard drugs), combined with his behavior, that would give me concern as well.

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Look around. I see lots of teens and young adults with tattoos and piercings.


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Hanging around kids that do drugs. Hello.

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Hanging around kids that do drugs. Hello.


 That would scare me too. 

Hopefully by the time your kids are 20 something you've already given them a good strong ethic and a basis in making smart choices.

 

My kids get sick of me saying "MAKE SMART CHOICES", whenever they leave the house.  :)



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

Hanging around kids that do drugs. Hello.


 Hanging around kids she thinks are doing drugs. This LW seems like the type that thinks everyone with tattoos or piercings is on drugs. 



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Hanging around kids that do drugs. Hello.


 Hanging around kids she thinks are doing drugs. This LW seems like the type that thinks everyone with tattoos or piercings is on drugs. 


 Maybe SHE is doing drugs and is a bit paranoid?

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Hanging around kids that do drugs. Hello.


 Hanging around kids she thinks are doing drugs. This LW seems like the type that thinks everyone with tattoos or piercings is on drugs. 


 Right? The cleanest people I know are tattooed guys with chin piercings. And plugs. 



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Idk. If moms freaking out and trying to get her son out of town over this (and it doesn't say HE has tattoos. Only hat his friends do) than mom has helicopter-parent issues. If mom is actually seeing him bigger stuff going on, she left it out of the letter!

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We dont' have enough information, that's for sure. It could be nothing, or he could be hanging with a bad crowd. Hard to tell. Mom could be grossly over reacting due to some folks having tattoos or she might be seeing her son starting down a bad path.

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