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Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Dems’ Anti-Gun Plot Exposed

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

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FNW · Guru

Love it.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Where's apple?

ed11563 · Guru

She's speaking for herself, not for Hillary.

I'm sure it took a while for the reporter to find someone

willing to say something inflammatory

for her 15 minutes of fame.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Haven't we been saying this for at least a decade?

The government isn't going to kick down your door and ransack your house and confiscate any firearm they see.

It's more subtle than that.

Laws becoming just little more strict.

Requirements becoming a little harder to reach.

Buy back programs.

Making gun owners the ones to fear.

apple · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Where's apple?

Apple is tired of this game.

You post something ludicrous with no facts related to it and I show you where it is nonsense.

Then you get personal, then you change the subject or deflect.

Rinse and repeat.

apple · Guru

Clinton’s gun violence prevention proposal would impose restrictions, including a ban on semi-automatic “assault weapons,” but it does not call for banning all guns.

Ohfour · Hooker

What exactly is a semi-automatic assault weapon? That makes no sense...

apple · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
What exactly is a semi-automatic assault weapon? That makes no sense...

Whatever, the point is there is no attempt to abolish guns. More sensationalism or outright lying as I like to call it.

Ohfour · Hooker

apple wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
What exactly is a semi-automatic assault weapon? That makes no sense...
Whatever, the point is there is no attempt to abolish guns. More sensationalism or outright lying as I like to call it.

You do realize that almost all guns are semi-automatic, right? So by calling on a ban of those, then yes, you are calling for a ban. That would mean that probably upwards of 90% of handguns would be banned. But that's not trying to ban guns, right? *eyeroll*

apple · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
apple wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
What exactly is a semi-automatic assault weapon? That makes no sense...
Whatever, the point is there is no attempt to abolish guns. More sensationalism or outright lying as I like to call it.
You do realize that almost all guns are semi-automatic, right? So by calling on a ban of those, then yes, you are calling for a ban. That would mean that probably upwards of 90% of handguns would be banned. But that's not trying to ban guns, right? *eyeroll*

Right so there is no attempt to outright "ABOLISH GUNS' , great. Glad we agree.

apple · Guru

Trump may choose not to believe what Clinton says, but the fact is there is no evidence that Clinton wants to “take your guns away” or “abolish the Second Amendment.” She hasn’t said that, and her gun proposals would not do that. There is no mention of a retroactive ban.

Ohfour · Hooker

apple wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
apple wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
What exactly is a semi-automatic assault weapon? That makes no sense...
Whatever, the point is there is no attempt to abolish guns. More sensationalism or outright lying as I like to call it.
You do realize that almost all guns are semi-automatic, right? So by calling on a ban of those, then yes, you are calling for a ban. That would mean that probably upwards of 90% of handguns would be banned. But that's not trying to ban guns, right? *eyeroll*
Right so there is no attempt to outright "ABOLISH GUNS' , great. Glad we agree.

You could not be more wrong. They want to abolish 90% of guns. If you don't think that's a big deal, then you are oh so close to overdosing on the kool aid...

apple · Guru

Trump may choose not to believe what Clinton says, but the fact is there is no evidence that Clinton wants to “take your guns away” or “abolish the Second Amendment.” She hasn’t said that, and her gun proposals would not do that. There is no mention of a retroactive ban.

So don't be absurd, anyone trying to abolish the second amendment would be committing political suicide.
However, SOME people might want you to believe them when they tell you that is what she wants. Good grief....

Ohfour · Hooker

She did say that the enemy she was most proud of inciting was the NRA. Not ISIS, not Muslim Extremists, not Hezbollah. The NRA.

She's sick in the head...

Cheerios4606 · Guru

This may help educate folks on what an "assault rifle" is and is NOT. I personally like the part where it explains how an AR-15 (a semi-automatic [a weapon that fires a single bullet when you pull the trigger... much like your rifle]) functions EXACTLY THE SAME as a deer rifle, and handgun, a pistol, a shotgun, and a revolver. They all fire one bullet. One. So the ban on "assault rifle" would also ban your gaming rifle, your handgun, pistol, shotgun and revolver.

www.assaultweapon.info/

All of these fire one round per trigger pull

-- Edited by Cheerios4606 on Wednesday 27th of July 2016 05:09:59 PM

Ohfour · Hooker

And my PMR-30 handgun holds 30 bullets and is semi-automatic. I guess that would be banned too under Shillary's reign...

apple · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
She did say that the enemy she was most proud of inciting was the NRA. Not ISIS, not Muslim Extremists, not Hezbollah. The NRA.

She's sick in the head...

Perhaps the fact that Americans with guns kill VASTLY more Americans than ISIS.... factors in there a little bit eh?

apple · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
And my PMR-30 handgun holds 30 bullets and is semi-automatic. I guess that would be banned too under Shillary's reign...

She isn't going to abolish the second amendment, you admit that right?

Ohfour · Hooker

apple wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
And my PMR-30 handgun holds 30 bullets and is semi-automatic. I guess that would be banned too under Shillary's reign...
She isn't going to abolish the second amendment, you admit that right?

Absolutely she is. You can't CHANGE and amendment. You have to nullify and add another. So yes, she WOULD abolish the Second Amendment.

apple · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
She did say that the enemy she was most proud of inciting was the NRA. Not ISIS, not Muslim Extremists, not Hezbollah. The NRA.

She's sick in the head...

Do you have a direct link for that? I had not seen this quote.

Ohfour · Hooker

apple wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
She did say that the enemy she was most proud of inciting was the NRA. Not ISIS, not Muslim Extremists, not Hezbollah. The NRA.

She's sick in the head...
Do you have a direct link for that? I had not seen this quote.

For the final question of the first Democratic presidential debate, moderator Anderson Cooper alluded to Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who said, "I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made."

Cooper said to the debaters, "You've all made a few people upset over your political careers. Which enemy are you most proud of?"

Hillary Clinton: Well, in addition to the NRA, the health insurance companies, the drug companies, the Iranians. Probably the Republicans.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Cheerios4606 wrote:
This may help educate folks on what an "assault rifle" is and is NOT. I personally like the part where it explains how an AR-15 (a semi-automatic [a weapon that fires a single bullet when you pull the trigger... much like your rifle]) functions EXACTLY THE SAME as a deer rifle, and handgun, a pistol, a shotgun, and a revolver. They all fire one bullet. One. So the ban on "assault rifle" would also ban your gaming rifle, your handgun, pistol, shotgun and revolver.

www.assaultweapon.info/

All of these fire one round per trigger pull

-- Edited by Cheerios4606 on Wednesday 27th of July 2016 05:09:59 PM

You've posted this, or something similar, on other threads.

It's amazing how the facts get skipped.

apple · Guru

The ban defined the term "semiautomatic assault weapon," which is commonly shortened to assault weapon. Semi-automatic firearms shoot one round (cartridge or bullet) with each trigger pull.

The term assault weapon is also commonly used to refer to some military weapons and weapon systems. The similar but technical term assault rifle refers to military rifles capable of selective fire - automatic (full-auto), semi-automatic, and burst fire. Automatic firearms (like machine guns) and assault rifles in automatic mode, shoot multiple rounds with a single trigger pull. Such firearms are Title II weapons regulated by the National Firearms Act of 1934 and Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986. Neither the ban nor its expiration changed the legal status of automatic firearms.

The ban restricted the manufacture, transfer, and possession of semi-automatic assault weapons except for: those already in lawful possession at the time of the law's enactment; 660 rifles and shotguns listed by type and name; permanently inoperable, manually operated, or antique firearms; rifles unable to accept a detachable magazine of more than five rounds; shotguns unable to hold more than five rounds in a fixed or detachable magazine; and those made for, transferred to, or owned by the U.S. government or a U.S. law enforcement agency.

The ban had outlined specific features that would classify a firearm as an assault weapon. For example, rifles and shot guns could not have folding stocks, pistol grips, bayonet mounts, attachable grenade launchers, flash suppressors, or threaded barrels designed to accommodate a flash suppressor.

[10]The bill also mentions features that would classify pistols as assault weapons. These features included an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip, a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender or flash suppressor. forward handgrip, silencer; a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned, a manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; and a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm; semiautomatic shotgun: could not have a folding or telescoping stock, a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds, and an ability to accept a detachable magazine.

The ban also defined the term "large capacity ammunition feeding device," which is commonly shortened to "large capacity magazine," or high capacity magazine. These were defined by the assault weapons ban as magazines, belts, drums, feed strips, or similar devices with a capacity of more than 10 rounds. It restricted the transfer and possession of large capacity ammunition feeding devices except for: those made before the law's enactment; and those made for, transferred to, or owned by the U.S. government or a U.S. law enforcement agency.

Ohfour · Hooker

apple wrote:
The ban defined the term "semiautomatic assault weapon," which is commonly shortened to assault weapon. Semi-automatic firearms shoot one round (cartridge or bullet) with each trigger pull.

The term assault weapon is also commonly used to refer to some military weapons and weapon systems. The similar but technical term assault rifle refers to military rifles capable of selective fire - automatic (full-auto), semi-automatic, and burst fire. Automatic firearms (like machine guns) and assault rifles in automatic mode, shoot multiple rounds with a single trigger pull. Such firearms are Title II weapons regulated by the National Firearms Act of 1934 and Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986. Neither the ban nor its expiration changed the legal status of automatic firearms.

The ban restricted the manufacture, transfer, and possession of semi-automatic assault weapons except for: those already in lawful possession at the time of the law's enactment; 660 rifles and shotguns listed by type and name; permanently inoperable, manually operated, or antique firearms; rifles unable to accept a detachable magazine of more than five rounds; shotguns unable to hold more than five rounds in a fixed or detachable magazine; and those made for, transferred to, or owned by the U.S. government or a U.S. law enforcement agency.

The ban had outlined specific features that would classify a firearm as an assault weapon. For example, rifles and shot guns could not have folding stocks, pistol grips, bayonet mounts, attachable grenade launchers, flash suppressors, or threaded barrels designed to accommodate a flash suppressor.

[10]The bill also mentions features that would classify pistols as assault weapons. These features included an ammunition magazine that attaches to the pistol outside of the pistol grip, a threaded barrel capable of accepting a barrel extender or flash suppressor. forward handgrip, silencer; a shroud that is attached to, or partially or completely encircles, the barrel and that permits the shooter to hold the firearm with the nontrigger hand without being burned, a manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when the pistol is unloaded; and a semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm; semiautomatic shotgun: could not have a folding or telescoping stock, a pistol grip that protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon; a fixed magazine capacity in excess of 5 rounds, and an ability to accept a detachable magazine.

The ban also defined the term "large capacity ammunition feeding device," which is commonly shortened to "large capacity magazine," or high capacity magazine. These were defined by the assault weapons ban as magazines, belts, drums, feed strips, or similar devices with a capacity of more than 10 rounds. It restricted the transfer and possession of large capacity ammunition feeding devices except for: those made before the law's enactment; and those made for, transferred to, or owned by the U.S. government or a U.S. law enforcement agency.

There is no way to know this. Only 2 of my guns are registered, I have no way of proving when I bought the other ones.

BAD LAW. You cannot prove yourself innocent...

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Wording of any law is very important.

Slippery slopes and all that.

apple · Guru

Yes but the POINT is, there is no effort being made to abolish the second amendment.
I see no mention of it being retroactive either.

Seeing as I am Canadian, all these conditions are common sense to me.
I do understand that you Americans have different feelings about guns than we do.

I'm just sayin, the premise of this thread and the OP are false.