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Donald Trump’s remarks about Russia are reckless

July 27, 2016 By The Editorial Board

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump speaks during a Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump speaks during a news conference at Trump National Doral, Wednesday, July 27, 2016, in Doral, Fla. (Credit: AP / Evan Vucci)

Having long ago jumped the shark, Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump jumped the whale on Wednesday.

A bizarre news conference in Miami turned reckless when Trump, an admirer of Russian President Vladimir Putin, challenged the rival superpower to interfere in the presidential election. “If Russia or any other country or person has Hillary Clinton’s 33,000 illegally deleted emails, perhaps they should share them with the FBI,” he said.

Trump can make all the political hay he wants out of Hillary Clinton’s wrongheaded use of a private email server while she was secretary of state. Or out of the WikiLeaks disclosure of hacked Democratic National Committee emails timed to rile supporters of Bernie Sanders just before the party convention. But he can’t ask Russia, which is under heavy suspicion of the serial hacking of the U.S. government and Washington organizations, to help him win the election.

 

Trump’s running mate, Gov. Mike Pence, took the opposite positon, releasing a statement that Russia would face “serious consequences” if it interfered with the election. Later in the day, Republican Party leader and House Speaker Paul Ryan tried his hand at damage countrol. “Russia is a global menace led by a devious thug,” Ryan’s spokesman said. “Putin should stay out of this election.”

Buried among Trump’s strange statements in Miami was his pronouncement that he would consider recognizing Crimea as Russian territory. The United States and the European Union opposed Putin’s militarized land grab of this part of Ukraine and imposed economic sanctions on Russian banks. So not only did Trump signal that he welcomed help from the Russians, he told them exactly what they would get from sabotaging the campaign of his opponent. Dangerous deal.— The editorial board

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How is it reckless? It is just emails about yoga right? Or are u saying Hillary hid and deleted highly classified info?



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Sorry - can't have it both ways. Either the emails are not a big deal, or they are. You don't get to say out of one side of your mouth that the email issue with Hillary is stupid, and then out of the other complain that someone might hack them. Even the Russians.

And quite frankly, since our own government has proven too corrupt to handle the issue - someone needs to expose it.

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Sorry - can't have it both ways. Either the emails are not a big deal, or they are. You don't get to say out of one side of your mouth that the email issue with Hillary is stupid, and then out of the other complain that someone might hack them. Even the Russians.

And quite frankly, since our own government has proven too corrupt to handle the issue - someone needs to expose it.


Exactly!  Either these emails about yoga and recipes OR Hillary is a freaking criminal.  Take your pic.  Can't have it both ways.  And, shining the light of day on govt corruption benefits us all, no matter who exposes it.



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And don't forget it was Hillary that brought Russia into the email hacking conversation.

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Meh. I thought it was funny.

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NO, it was not reckless. Accusing a foreign government of illegal hacking and spying without any proof is what was reckless.

Trump's comments were a brilliant foreign policy save.

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I thought it was funny too. We cant rely on our own government to be forthcoming, so why not poke fun and ask a foreign country to help? lol!

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I know what to do_sometimes wrote:

And don't forget it was Hillary that brought Russia into the email hacking conversation.


 I believe it was the FBI.



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Meh. I thought it was funny.


 I think it was meant as a joke.

I find it reckless to joke about such serious issues. Sometimes Trumps off the cuff remarks make me realize that he is more of a performer than a politician.



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Which is why I still dont like him even though I am a conservative republican and he is 'supposed' to be my guy.

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Meh. I thought it was funny.


 I think it was meant as a joke.

I find it reckless to joke about such serious issues. Sometimes Trumps off the cuff remarks make me realize that he is more of a performer than a politician.


 Well, I find it a whole lot let reckless to joke about it, than to seriously make unfounded accusations against Russia. 

 

But that's the Democratic MO - blame ANYONE to shift focus, and be damned the consequences.  



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Meh. I thought it was funny.


 I think it was meant as a joke.

I find it reckless to joke about such serious issues. Sometimes Trumps off the cuff remarks make me realize that he is more of a performer than a politician.


 Well, I find it a whole lot let reckless to joke about it, than to seriously make unfounded accusations against Russia. 

 

But that's the Democratic MO - blame ANYONE to shift focus, and be damned the consequences.  


 I don't think that tactic is unique to any one party.



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Meh. I thought it was funny.


 I think it was meant as a joke.

I find it reckless to joke about such serious issues. Sometimes Trumps off the cuff remarks make me realize that he is more of a performer than a politician.


 Well, I find it a whole lot let reckless to joke about it, than to seriously make unfounded accusations against Russia. 

 

But that's the Democratic MO - blame ANYONE to shift focus, and be damned the consequences.  


 I don't think that tactic is unique to any one party.


 Uh huh.  Examples please. 



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apple wrote:
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Meh. I thought it was funny.


 I think it was meant as a joke.

I find it reckless to joke about such serious issues. Sometimes Trumps off the cuff remarks make me realize that he is more of a performer than a politician.


 Well, I find it a whole lot let reckless to joke about it, than to seriously make unfounded accusations against Russia. 

 

But that's the Democratic MO - blame ANYONE to shift focus, and be damned the consequences.  


 I don't think that tactic is unique to any one party.


 Uh huh.  Examples please. 


 You can't be serious. 

Ummm ya Trump and his supporters run a clean campaign, no scandals whatsoever and no deflecting.confuse



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apple wrote:
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apple wrote:
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apple wrote:
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Meh. I thought it was funny.


 I think it was meant as a joke.

I find it reckless to joke about such serious issues. Sometimes Trumps off the cuff remarks make me realize that he is more of a performer than a politician.


 Well, I find it a whole lot let reckless to joke about it, than to seriously make unfounded accusations against Russia. 

 

But that's the Democratic MO - blame ANYONE to shift focus, and be damned the consequences.  


 I don't think that tactic is unique to any one party.


 Uh huh.  Examples please. 


 You can't be serious. 

Ummm ya Trump and his supporters run a clean campaign, no scandals whatsoever and no deflecting.confuse


Name one... 



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apple wrote:
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apple wrote:
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apple wrote:
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Meh. I thought it was funny.


 I think it was meant as a joke.

I find it reckless to joke about such serious issues. Sometimes Trumps off the cuff remarks make me realize that he is more of a performer than a politician.


 Well, I find it a whole lot let reckless to joke about it, than to seriously make unfounded accusations against Russia. 

 

But that's the Democratic MO - blame ANYONE to shift focus, and be damned the consequences.  


 I don't think that tactic is unique to any one party.


 Uh huh.  Examples please. 


 You can't be serious. 

Ummm ya Trump and his supporters run a clean campaign, no scandals whatsoever and no deflecting.confuse


Please show me where he blamed an innocent person or government with no reason whatsoever.  There is NOTHING to tie the Russians to the hacking scandal.  



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Lawyerlady wrote:
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Meh. I thought it was funny.


 I think it was meant as a joke.

I find it reckless to joke about such serious issues. Sometimes Trumps off the cuff remarks make me realize that he is more of a performer than a politician.


 Well, I find it a whole lot let reckless to joke about it, than to seriously make unfounded accusations against Russia. 

 

But that's the Democratic MO - blame ANYONE to shift focus, and be damned the consequences.  


 I don't think that tactic is unique to any one party.


 Uh huh.  Examples please. 


 You can't be serious. 

Ummm ya Trump and his supporters run a clean campaign, no scandals whatsoever and no deflecting.confuse


Please show me where he blamed an innocent person or government with no reason whatsoever.  There is NOTHING to tie the Russians to the hacking scandal.  


Again, I question your news sources.

 Two cybersecurity firms, Fidelis Cybersecurity and Mandiant, independently corroboratedCrowdstrike’s assessment that Russian hackers infiltrated DNC networks, having found that the two groups that hacked into the DNC used malware and methods identical to those used in other attacks attributed to the same Russian hacking groups.



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So then Trump was just asking them to do something they had already done.

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Actually, both those articles from cybersecurity firms by apple were posted over a month ago. They are ASSUMING the email leaks are a result of what they THINK was that Russian hack, but can only speculate. Further, another group has taken credit for the leak.

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Actually, both those articles from cybersecurity firms by apple were posted over a month ago. They are ASSUMING the email leaks are a result of what they THINK was that Russian hack, but can only speculate. Further, another group has taken credit for the leak.


 Yes, but it relates to your "unfounded" comment. Which is incorrect.



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It's a guess. A wrong guess at that.

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It's a guess. A wrong guess at that.


 The thing is, you don't know that. Nobody really knows, all we can do is go best guess of the experts.



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Except another group has already claimed responsibility so the experts were wrong.

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Except another group has already claimed responsibility so the experts were wrong.


Of course they are.



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You would know I guess. You seem to KNOW EVERYTHING.

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Actually, both those articles from cybersecurity firms by apple were posted over a month ago. They are ASSUMING the email leaks are a result of what they THINK was that Russian hack, but can only speculate. Further, another group has taken credit for the leak.


 Yes, but it relates to your "unfounded" comment. Which is incorrect.


 Not when by "unfounded", I'm actually talking about something worthy.



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You would know I guess. You seem to KNOW EVERYTHING.


 No, unfortunately I don't know everything, but you seem to. biggrin

 

I'm leaving room for the truth, if it ever surfaces.



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Colbert on Question He’d Like to Ask Trump: ‘What Does Vladimir Putin’s D*ck Taste Like.

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shocking!

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Meh. I thought it was funny.


 I think it was meant as a joke.

I find it reckless to joke about such serious issues. Sometimes Trumps off the cuff remarks make me realize that he is more of a performer than a politician.


 Oh yes, yes, you are soo offended and indignant and self righteous now.  Uh huh.  What is reckless is Obama who has allowed 400, 000 unvetted migrants into this country since 2012.  But, in the liberal La La Land, words are what matters.  Actions, you ignore.



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Meh. I thought it was funny.


 I think it was meant as a joke.

I find it reckless to joke about such serious issues. Sometimes Trumps off the cuff remarks make me realize that he is more of a performer than a politician.


 Oh yes, yes, you are soo offended and indignant and self righteous now.  Uh huh.  What is reckless is Obama who has allowed 400, 000 unvetted migrants into this country since 2012.  But, in the liberal La La Land, words are what matters.  Actions, you ignore.


 Try staying on topic once in a while. 

 

Deflect Deflect Deflect.

Trumps off the cuff remarks are a concern for many, even republicans. When did I say I was offended, indignant or self righteous? 

Spin Spin Spin



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You didn't answer the question. So, you are saying Hillary totally lied about the 30,000 emails just being personal crap like recipes and her lesbian pornsite membership and so there really are issues of National Security so if so, then why is she not in jail? Which is? Lesbian porn or govt secrets?

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You didn't answer the question. So, you are saying Hillary totally lied about the 30,000 emails just being personal crap like recipes and her lesbian pornsite membership and so there really are issues of National Security so if so, then why is she not in jail? Which is? Lesbian porn or govt secrets?


 LOL look who is trolling!



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I asked you a question. You can't have it both ways. It is either her personal nonsense or it is govt secrets. If you are soooo outraged over Trump , then obviously you believe that Hillary is a damn liar and criminal and did indeed compromise National Security. If she didnt, then who cares what Trump said or didn't say. You strain on a gnat and swallow Michael Moore.

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Ummm, even Michael Moore says Trump is going to win.

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Obama has said it as well.

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I'll be honest.

I have real concerns about Trump being elected.

I think he could be great in some areas, but extremely bad in others.

Still.

The alternative will just be bad all around.

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Obama has said it as well.


 I'm sure, its in the Enquirer, jeeze USE YOUR OWN brain why don't you. 

WHY would Obama say that??? He didn't.

Just like Hillary never said she would "abolish the second amendment".

 

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I'll be honest.

I have real concerns about Trump being elected.

I think he could be great in some areas, but extremely bad in others.

Still.

The alternative will just be bad all around.


 I like that you are being honest, I think a lot of people are just a little bit fearful of Trump being president.

There seems to be no clear WIN for America in this battle. :(



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Obama has said it as well.


 I'm sure, its in the Enquirer, jeeze USE YOUR OWN brain why don't you. 

WHY would Obama say that??? He didn't.

Just like Hillary never said she would "abolish the second amendment".

 

Facepalm times infinity.

 


You seem to like old news.  Just a couple of days ago, Obama admitted it is possible for Trump to win.  It was quite the change from just a few months ago where he said it would never happen.  Maybe you should just keep your face down in that palm.  

 



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Obama has said it as well.


 I'm sure, its in the Enquirer, jeeze USE YOUR OWN brain why don't you. 

WHY would Obama say that??? He didn't.

Just like Hillary never said she would "abolish the second amendment".

 

Facepalm times infinity.

 


You seem to like old news.  Just a couple of days ago, Obama admitted it is possible for Trump to win.  It was quite the change from just a few months ago where he said it would never happen.  Maybe you should just keep your face down in that palm.  

 


It is possible, no denying that. Obama said it is possible. Yup.  So where EXACTLY did he say Trump was going to win?

He didn't.  



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Obama has said it as well.


 I'm sure, its in the Enquirer, jeeze USE YOUR OWN brain why don't you. 

WHY would Obama say that??? He didn't.

Just like Hillary never said she would "abolish the second amendment".

 

Facepalm times infinity.

 


You seem to like old news.  Just a couple of days ago, Obama admitted it is possible for Trump to win.  It was quite the change from just a few months ago where he said it would never happen.  Maybe you should just keep your face down in that palm.  

 


It is possible, no denying that. Obama said it is possible. Yup.  So where EXACTLY did he say Trump was going to win?

He didn't.  


 What is more telling is the big shift in just a few months from his staunch "no way will Donald Trump win" to "yes, it's possible".  



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Even my Rep delegate friends who were in favor of Rubio or the highway say they will hold their noses and vote for Trump. A few months ago they would stay home before doing so. But they are smarter than that and realize if they stayed home, it would help Hillary.

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Obama has said it as well.


 I'm sure, its in the Enquirer, jeeze USE YOUR OWN brain why don't you. 

WHY would Obama say that??? He didn't.

Just like Hillary never said she would "abolish the second amendment".

 

Facepalm times infinity.

 


You seem to like old news.  Just a couple of days ago, Obama admitted it is possible for Trump to win.  It was quite the change from just a few months ago where he said it would never happen.  Maybe you should just keep your face down in that palm.  

 


It is possible, no denying that. Obama said it is possible. Yup.  So where EXACTLY did he say Trump was going to win?

He didn't.  


 What is more telling is the big shift in just a few months from his staunch "no way will Donald Trump win" to "yes, it's possible".  


 Ahhh, here is where you seem to get confused.

I don't care about the shift, not at all. My point is, Obama did not say Trump was going to win. 

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Read between the lines.

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Obama hates Hillary too. Get real.

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Read between the lines.


 I see a lot of that "reading between the lines", basically it is putting a spin on something or interpreting it to coincide with your agenda.

I prefer to refer to the actual words used and not a biased interpretation of meaning. 



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Sorry. We thought you could understand nuance.

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I still don't understand how you think you are unbiased apple. You believe differently about things but you are just as biased.

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