You spent a whole of time on another thread repeating "just be honest".

Hillary said she did not use a private server.

Then it was proven she did.

That is a proven lie.

She said there was nothing about classified information in the emails sent through that private server.

Then we found out that wasn't true either.

Another proven lie.

So once again, which lie is more dangerous? 

I answered you already Lily, go back.

I did not say Hilary has never lied, Trump has lied and been caught. Politicians and lying..... weird.
Some of you act as though Hilary has been caught in certain lies that I don't believe she has be actually caught in.
If you think Trump has never lied, you'd be kidding yourself.
So where does it end? Why is it okay for some lies and not for others?

Back to the OP, are you dismissing Melania's lie because its okay, other people lie?

Lawyerlady wrote:

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apple wrote:

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Melania's lie has been proved.
Any other allegations you seem to call lies, have not been proved.

A LIE is a lie and speaks to integrity.
And, Ed is right, this also shows you that with the speech and now this, the vetting is not as good as it could or should be.


And since you brought it up, here:

Donald Trump is as regular and as shocking a liar. Consider three episodes, only. For many years, Trump posed as his own spokesman, calling himself John Miller or John Baron (or Barron). Under this guise, he would brag to reporters about his sex life, or adulterous life. He admitted this in a court case. But this year, perhaps forgetting that he had already admitted it, he denied it. At the same time he was denying it, some of his supporters were celebrating it, saying, “Ha, he goofed on the press, how cool!” They loved him more than ever. But they were not on the same page as their man: who was denying it. Though he had admitted it before. There’s an old line: “I cannot tell a lie because I don’t have a good enough memory.” During the recent GOP convention, Trump talked about the location of that convention. “I wanted it to be here. And they had lots of choices. I wanted it to be in Ohio. I recommended Ohio.” The Republicans’ decision to hold their convention in Cleveland was announced in July 2014. Did Trump determine or influence the decision? This is a small thing — relatively small thing — but isn’t it telling?

Read more at: www.nationalreview.com/corner/438435/lies-hillary-clinton-donald-trump-do-they-matter

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 BULLSHlT!

She LIED about that damn video being the cause behind Benghazi and that has been PROVEN by her emails.

She LIED about her emails not causing a national security breach, and that has been PROVEN by her stupidity.

She LIED about the private server in the first place - which the FBI came straight out and said.  

 

You obviously only care when a Republican lies about crap that doesn't even matter to the nation.

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 The republican led Benghazi Select House Committee found no fault with her after 2 years of investigation, over 7 million dollars in expenses and more hearings than 9/11, Pearl Harbor and the Kennedy assassination combined.

This is a crystal clear case of confirmation bias at play. People who hate Hillary will ignore the results of the most exhaustive congressional investigation in history. They will say that the politicians are in cahoots with Hillary even though the investigation was led by Republicans. They will simply ignore the report itself. Months and years from now we will still have people calling her Killary even though there is no evidence that she intentionally did anything wrong.

 

Clinton only used her account for unclassified email. No information in Clinton’s emails was marked classified at the time she sent or received them.

 

A Politifact analysis also confirmed that Clinton’s practices complied with laws and regulations, including support from the former director of a prominent government accountability organization: “In Clinton’s defense, we should note that it was only after Clinton left the State Department, that the National Archives issued a recommendation that government employees should avoid conducting official business on personal emails (though they noted there might be extenuating circumstances such as an emergency that require it). Additionally, in 2014, President Barack Obama signed changes to the Federal Records Act that explicitly said federal officials can only use personal email addresses if they also copy or send the emails to their official account. Because these rules weren’t in effect when Clinton was in office, ‘she was in compliance with the laws and regulations at the time,’ said Gary Bass, founder and former director of OMB Watch, a government accountability organization.”

 

A lie is only a lie if it is proven to be a lie. You have opinion, nothing else.  No charges, no convictions, just your opinion. Sorry but it is what it is.

 

apple wrote:

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I answered you already Lily, go back.

I did not say Hilary has never lied, Trump has lied and been caught. Politicians and lying..... weird.
Some of you act as though Hilary has been caught in certain lies that I don't believe she has be actually caught in.
If you think Trump has never lied, you'd be kidding yourself.
So where does it end? Why is it okay for some lies and not for others?

Back to the OP, are you dismissing Melania's lie because its okay, other people lie?

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 Ok.

No need to take anything else you have to say about this election seriously. 

You only wish to, basically, throw sand.

 

Ohfour wrote:

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HAHAHA! You really are that ignorant aren't you?

The FBI director said she lied. He said it to Congress. Multiple times. Sorry you can't understand basic English...

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 Right and that is why she was convicted.

It is you who is daft.

FBI Director Says Decision to Forgo Charges Against Hillary Clinton 'Wasn't That Hard' to Make

JULY 26, 2016.

In a message to his workforce today, FBI Director James Comey further defended his decision not to recommend pressing charges against Hillary Clinton over her use of a private email server while serving as secretary of state.

“I hope you see clearly what I see, that this investigation was done honestly, independently and competently,” Comey said in a video message to FBI personnel, according to one government employee who recounted the message to ABC News. “For investigators and their supervisors, all the way up to me, the decision was not only the right one, it actually wasn’t that hard a decision, given the facts and the law.”

In fact, he said, “What I don’t have patience for is people suggesting that the FBI did it in some way that was anything other than apolitical and independent, because that’s just not true, and anybody who knows the FBI should know better.”

Comey has spent recent weeks defending his decision before lawmakers, reporters and the public.

Lawyerlady wrote:

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A lie is only a lie if proven?

NO. A lie is a lie. And Hillary does not even have plausible deniability.



And tell me again how you don't defend Hillary and you are not biased?

You, my dear apple, also lie. I guess that's why you like Hillary so much - birds of a feather and all that.

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 I would, and do defend anyone who is accused of something not by fact but by personal opinion. Anyone.

I have no need to Defend Trump as no one here ever seems to notice his failings.

 

As far as birds of a feather, I'm here posting with you so I suppose you are right. Liar Lady.

 

 

And excuse me? Did you just call me Liar Lady? First - I do NOT lie. EVER. Second - this is your warning. You will NOT call me names. You can get the hell of this board if you feel the need to do that.

FBI Director James Comey testified Thursday that Hillary Clinton’s claims -- some made under oath -- about her use of a private email server were “not true,” fueling Republican questions about whether in doing so she committed a felony.

In a wide-ranging appearance before the House oversight committee, Comey also said Clinton’s email practices put America’s secrets at risk and her actions constituted the “definition of carelessness.”

At the same time, Comey staunchly defended the bureau’s decision not to pursue charges. He also said, “We have no basis to conclude that [Clinton] lied to the FBI.”

Yet he acknowledged that lying under oath is a felony, as some Republicans point to statements she made last October before the House Benghazi committee -- and plan to request an investigation. At that hearing, Clinton had claimed that nothing she sent or received was marked classified.

Comey was asked about such claims, which she also made publicly, in a pointed exchange with Rep. Trey Gowdy, R-S.C.

“That’s not true. … There was classified material emailed,” Comey said.

On her claim that she used one device, Comey also said, “She used multiple devices.”

And on her claim that she turned over all work-related emails, he said, “No, we found work-related emails, thousands that were not returned.”

“It’s apparent that she lied to the American people,” Rep. Mark Meadows, R-N.C., later said of Clinton.

Democrats on the committee tried to make the case for Clinton that she may not have noticed or understood the classified markings in a few emails that bore them, bolstering any claim of plausible deniability. Comey indeed said there is a question over whether Clinton was “sophisticated enough” to know at the time what a particular classified marking signified.

Fox News was first to report on a 2012 email that carried a classified code known as a “portion marking” when it was sent to Clinton’s account.

While the hearing was underway, Clinton herself was hunkered down at her Washington home – as her campaign responded regularly to hearing highlights. The campaign flagged that Comey acknowledged during the hearing that the portion markings themselves were not properly marked.

But Gowdy and House Oversight Committee Chairman Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, whose committee hosted the tense hearing with Comey just two days after the investigation decision, both suggested a “double standard” was at play in the FBI decision.

“It seems to a lot of us that the average Joe … if they had done what you laid out in your statement, that they’d be in handcuffs,” Chaffetz said. “And I think there is a legitimate concern that there is a double-standard -- if your name isn’t Clinton or you’re not part of the powerful elite, that lady justice will act differently.”

Chaffetz voiced concern that there “does seem to be no consequence.”

Yet Comey repeated his claim that “no reasonable prosecutor would bring this case.” He said while Clinton showed “great carelessness,” he did not see evidence she and those with whom she corresponded “knew when they did it they were doing something that was against the law.”

He said no reasonable prosecutor would bring a case based only on what is known as “gross negligence.” At the same time, he suggested that if Clinton had worked at the FBI, she could be subject to a range of disciplinary measures including suspension or termination.

“You could be walked out,” he said.

Comey also denied a double standard was at play, saying no one at the DOJ would have brought such a case against “John Doe or Hillary Clinton” based on the facts.

Democratic committee members slammed the hearing and described the criticism of Comey as political.

“Amazingly, some Republicans who were praising you just days ago … instantly turned against you,” Rep. Elijah Cummings, D-Md., said. “In their eyes you had one job and one job only -- to prosecute Hillary Clinton.”

On another front, Comey also addressed claims by Romanian hacker “Guccifer” that he breached Clinton’s personal server. The hacker, Marcel Lehel Lazar, had told Fox News earlier this year that he easily accessed the server – but Comey said that when questioned, Guccifer admitted he lied about the breach.

Toward the end of the hearing, Comey would not answer directly when asked whether the FBI is investigating the Clinton Foundation. He also said Clinton gave individuals who were not cleared access to classified material – though a campaign spokesman countered that the attorneys who sorted through the emails had “Top Secret-level clearance.”

The hearing comes as Republicans turn up the pressure on both Comey and Clinton in the wake of the FBI recommendation not to pursue charges in the email case. Attorney General Loretta Lynch, after receiving Comey’s recommendation, on Wednesday declared the investigation over with no criminal charges issued.

House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., now wants Comey to release all of the unclassified findings from the agency’s investigation.

“Right now, there are simply too many unanswered questions,” Ryan wrote in a letter to Comey. “… The American people deserve to know exactly what your investigation uncovered and why the FBI came to the decision to recommend that no criminal charges be brought against Secretary Clinton.”

Ryan also sent a letter to Director of National Intelligence James Clapper urging him to deny Clinton access to classified information “for the duration of her candidacy for president.”

“I firmly believe this is necessary to reassure the public that our nation’s secrets are secure,” he said.

The Clinton campaign is hitting back repeatedly at Republicans, with a top spokesman calling the bid to deny her access to classified information a “stunt” and the campaign saying Republicans had voiced “nothing but confidence” in Comey before his announcement earlier this week.

But Comey's decision, and the way he delivered it, infuriated Republicans who felt that the FBI director in his unusually detailed and critical televised statement Tuesday had laid out a sufficient basis for prosecution.

In a stinging assessment of her email practices as secretary of state, Comey rebuked Clinton and her aides for being "extremely careless" in their handling of classified information and contradicted many of the defenses and explanations she's put forward for months. But he also said there was no evidence anyone willfully or intentionally mishandled classified information.

Comey, who served as deputy attorney general in the George W. Bush administration, was appointed in 2013 to a 10-year term as FBI director by President Barack Obama.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

lilyofcourse wrote:

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Facts, shmacks.

Pesky little things.

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 Extremely careless.

His opinion and the outcome of the investigation. 

Show me the lies.

 

July 16, 2016

"Well, I don't want to give an overly lawyerly answer," Comey said. "The question I always look at is there evidence that would establish beyond a reasonable doubt that somebody engaged in conduct that violated a criminal statute, and my judgment here is there is not. "

July 16, 2016

"Well, I don't want to give an overly lawyerly answer," Comey said. "The question I always look at is there evidence that would establish beyond a reasonable doubt that somebody engaged in conduct that violated a criminal statute, and my judgment here is there is not. "

 

July 5, 2016

Statement by FBI Director:

Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. Prosecutors necessarily weigh a number of factors before bringing charges. There are obvious considerations, like the strength of the evidence, especially regarding intent. Responsible decisions also consider the context of a person’s actions, and how similar situations have been handled in the past.

As a result, although the Department of Justice makes final decisions on matters like this, we are expressing to Justice our view that no charges are appropriate in this case.

I know there will be intense public debate in the wake of this recommendation, as there was throughout this investigation. What I can assure the American people is that this investigation was done competently, honestly, and independently. No outside influence of any kind was brought to bear.

I know there were many opinions expressed by people who were not part of the investigation—including people in government—but none of that mattered to us. Opinions are irrelevant, and they were all uninformed by insight into our investigation, because we did the investigation the right way. Only facts matter, and the FBI found them here in an entirely apolitical and professional way. I couldn’t be prouder to be part of this organization.

-- Edited by apple on Friday 29th of July 2016 03:37:26 PM

Ohfour wrote:

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You really are a bit touched aren't you.

Carry on, you obviously live in a world that rational people dare not tread. It could be funny, but it's actually rather pathetic...

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 Thanks I needed a good laugh, you calling yourself rational? lolol... 

Lawyerlady wrote:

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And excuse me? Did you just call me Liar Lady? First - I do NOT lie. EVER. Second - this is your warning. You will NOT call me names. You can get the hell of this board if you feel the need to do that.

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 You called me a liar but that is okay?

You're a hypocrite too now. Fine example of what goes on here.

 

 

 

 

apple wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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And excuse me? Did you just call me Liar Lady? First - I do NOT lie. EVER. Second - this is your warning. You will NOT call me names. You can get the hell of this board if you feel the need to do that.

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 You called me a liar but that is okay?

You're a hypocrite too now. Fine example of what goes on here.

 

 

 

 

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 I said you lie.  You bastardized my name and called me a liar.  

 

You are only here to troll, anyway.  

Lawyerlady wrote:

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apple wrote:

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Lawyerlady wrote:

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And excuse me? Did you just call me Liar Lady? First - I do NOT lie. EVER. Second - this is your warning. You will NOT call me names. You can get the hell of this board if you feel the need to do that.

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 You called me a liar but that is okay?

You're a hypocrite too now. Fine example of what goes on here.

 

 

 

 

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 I said you lie.  You bastardized my name and called me a liar.  

 

You are only here to troll, anyway.  

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 The main reason anyway.

For the 3rd time. Maybe it will be the charm.

Lawyerlady wrote:

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For the 3rd time. Maybe it will be the charm.

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 Stop opening the door again, LL 

lilyofcourse wrote:

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We really need a secret knock.

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 LOL