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Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Woman loses her mind over teacher braiding her child's hair.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Oh, my good lord. Thank heavens even the commentators (both black and white) to this article realized how crazy and racist this woman is.

TrudyML · Guru

Yikes! My tiny niece begs for French braids and comes home with them often. Mummy can't French braid! She laughs. And if the tiny love is with me? Her fingers and toes will be done.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

The child was HOT, get the freak over yourself!

Idiot.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

My kids always come home with their hair done. No big deal.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

This woman is crazy bigoted. Teacher wanted to get her hands in Black hair? It would have been ok if the teacher was black because then it was a sister looking out? Homegirl hookup?

Can you imagine the backlash if a white mother wrote this about a black teacher? Holy hell would be unleashed.

chef · Guru

Lexxy wrote:
This woman is crazy bigoted. Teacher wanted to get her hands in Black hair? It would have been ok if the teacher was black because then it was a sister looking out? Homegirl hookup?

Can you imagine the backlash if a white mother wrote this about a black teacher? Holy hell would be unleashed.

And then some!

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Take a pill Lady and get the freak over yourself! Or better yet, homeschool your own kid!

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

She doens't want 'white hands" in her daughter's hair. But, I guess she is OK with a white teacher teaching her kid? What a moron.

chef · Guru

"While I’m 100 percent sure the teacher had no ill intentions when she decided to do my childs hair, but more so just wanted to get her hands in some Black hair. Against my better judgment, I assumed the unspoken rule about not touching Black hair was well known. Needless to say, no matter what the circumstances may be, no matter how tired I am, that hair gets braided down daily! I refuse to allow my child to be mislead into believing her beauty, and worth are defined by what pleases the pale faces of the world. I am a patron of the facility not for beauty treatments, but to first educate, and second care for my child. Unfortunately, I have stigmatized myself as “that mom”, and prayerfully my daughter doesn’t suffer of any ill treatment because of this.

Would I feel as strongly about this situation had her teacher been Black, and decided to do her hair? Nope, because to me that would of been a sister looking out, a homegirl hook up because of the unspoken understanding all Black people share. Is that biased, ignorant, racist? Call it what you want, but because of the history of the Black body, in relation to White people, (ownership, and exhibition) I will never be ok with White hands in my childs hair."

This kind of thinking is why racism still exists and exactly why I say we need to stop giving racism a voice. "Get her hands in black hair" "Unspoken rule about not touching black hair" The part about how it would've been ok if the teacher had been black. What a load of crap. Hair is hair. Black hair is not special. It's different. Not special. Good grief.

The part about an unspoken rule about not touching black hair confuses me. I've never heard of such a thing. Of course, I don't have a desire to run my fingers through someone's hair just because their skin color is different than mine. Is there also an unspoken rule about not touching white hair? Mexican hair? Asian hair?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Yeah, every white person i know 'just wants to get her hands in some Black hair', whatever that means!

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Lexxy wrote:
This woman is crazy bigoted. Teacher wanted to get her hands in Black hair? It would have been ok if the teacher was black because then it was a sister looking out? Homegirl hookup?

Can you imagine the backlash if a white mother wrote this about a black teacher? Holy hell would be unleashed.

A former coworker and his wife adopted a baby; the parents are white, baby black. I overheard two other coworker s discussing how horrible that was for the child. When the child had his first haircut, same coworkers were all up in arms because cutting black hair was a "thing" and the parents had it done too early.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Lexxy wrote:
This woman is crazy bigoted. Teacher wanted to get her hands in Black hair? It would have been ok if the teacher was black because then it was a sister looking out? Homegirl hookup?

Can you imagine the backlash if a white mother wrote this about a black teacher? Holy hell would be unleashed.
A former coworker and his wife adopted a baby; the parents are white, baby black. I overheard two other coworker s discussing how horrible that was for the child. When the child had his first haircut, same coworkers were all up in arms because cutting black hair was a "thing" and the parents had it done too early.

It's sad but honestly i dont' know if white parents should adopt a black child. Seems like they get nothing but criticism for doing so.

Lexxy · My dog name is Sasha, too!

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Lexxy wrote:
This woman is crazy bigoted. Teacher wanted to get her hands in Black hair? It would have been ok if the teacher was black because then it was a sister looking out? Homegirl hookup?

Can you imagine the backlash if a white mother wrote this about a black teacher? Holy hell would be unleashed.
A former coworker and his wife adopted a baby; the parents are white, baby black. I overheard two other coworker s discussing how horrible that was for the child. When the child had his first haircut, same coworkers were all up in arms because cutting black hair was a "thing" and the parents had it done too early.

I've never heard of this or not touching black hair but I'll admit I have little knowledge on the subject. As I see it the parents get to decide when their child needs a haircut.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Yeah, i have never heard that as some unspoken rule either. However, nowadays everyone is so offended and super sensitive that teachers can't even move.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I don't know about "black hair" but I know about curly hair.

No. You don't brush it.

It frizzes and it gets frizzier as the day goes on.

But it was braided. That's what she does to it every morning, so big deal.

The "black" this and "white" that is beyond old.

Tangerine · Guru

Wut?!

This woman is unhinged.

When Bunny was in the NICU, he was sporting a different hairstyle every morning when we came to see him.
We just figured the night nurses were having a bit of fun with him. He was the only full term baby in there, the tiny ones were connected to so many tubes and things- I don't imagine they get to hold and play with them as much.
I guess j should have lost my **** and demanded that no one change his clothes or hair except me.

Vette · Owl drink to that!

This is so stupid like everything else in today's world.

On a side note, people should adopt whatever child is right for them in their hearts, not what society thinks is right. Although I understand where you're coming from LGS, it's sad that it has to be that way.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

I did know that you should never touch a black person's hair. Their hair is very brittle and can break easily so you should not touch it. Their hair needs to be treated differently than Caucasian hair and it takes years of training to do it correctly. Additionally, many white people who have never seen black hair up close just reach out and touch it. It's annoying in the same way that touching a pregnant woman's belly is - it's an invasion of personal space. Hair is a very touchy subject for black women especially. No pun intended. Most white women have no idea the struggles black women go through to get their hair looking the way they want. Hours and hours at the salon and tons of money spent. Often, black women are judged by their hair. Shoot - Gabby Douglas was judged at the Olympics for having messy hair after she competed in her event! The white competitors had hair all over the place too but no one else was called out except Gabby.

That said, this woman took it too far. She needs to get over it. The teacher was being loving and meant no disrespect. You have to take people's intentions into consideration. The mother could have used this as an opportunity to educate the teacher on the history/special needs of black hair but she chose to get pissed off instead. That's on her.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

And this is one of the benefits of having friends of all races. My black women friends talk about their hair to me and their struggles and so I have been exposed to their experiences. A few of DD's teammates last year were black and she learned a lot about it from them.

chef · Guru

MM: Thanks for the explanation.

I think black hair is beautiful. I've always admired how stiff (for lack of a better word) it is and that one could put it up and have it stay put. I also love the braids.

There's a black woman in my Church who has gorgeous hair. I don't think she does much to it. My favorite hairstyle she does is when she leaves it poofy (I don't know the right word, it's not an Afro) and it looks like a crown sitting on her head. She's also in the choir and I love when she's singing. Very energetic and really gets everyone jazzed up.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

I hated it when people touched my hair.

I was in church on night and the lady behind me played with it until I finally pulled it all up over my shoulder and braided it.

Just annoying.

chef · Guru

I used to have super frizzy curly hair. I had it straightened in, I think, my junior year of high school. It stayed stick straight for about 2 years then the curls came back but as soft, wavy curls.

DS has my curly hair but it has to grow out quite a bit before the curls come in.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

My boys got my curls.

Tight, ringlets curls.

Aaron has let his grow out some, the weight is pulling the curls down some.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

DD has all my ringlets. I swear, I had a thick mane of ringlets. In the summer I could wash it, pick it, and let it go. It was beautiful. Not I have flat, thin, nothing hair.

This is exactly what my hair was 11 years ago.

Honeys_Mom · Mod & Permanent Board Sweetheart

"...white hands in my child's hair..."? What a hateful bigot.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Honeys_Mom wrote:
"...white hands in my child's hair..."? What a hateful bigot.

Well no not according to the new definition of bigotry. White can't touch black but black can ridicule, kill, and whatever else they want to a white person.

Ok that was an awful statement, but I fear this is what is happening to this society.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Honeys_Mom wrote:
"...white hands in my child's hair..."? What a hateful bigot.

Again, you have to understand the cultural context for what she is saying here. For centuries, white women have been telling black women what appropriate hair styles for the black women are. White women routinely walk up to black women and touch their hair and make some ignorant comments about it. I have seen it happen. Black women spend a ton of money and time to get their hair looking the way they want it to look. White women could not possibly understand. There are larger cultural issues at play that need considered when looking at that statement.

And again, the OP took her rage a bit too far. She needed to look at the intent of the teacher. The act was done out of love. It doesn't excuse the ignorance but it should have tempered the OP's anger.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

I have never seen a white woman walk up to a black woman and touch her hair.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

Mellow Momma wrote:
Honeys_Mom wrote:
"...white hands in my child's hair..."? What a hateful bigot.
Again, you have to understand the cultural context for what she is saying here. For centuries, white women have been telling black women what appropriate hair styles for the black women are. White women routinely walk up to black women and touch their hair and make some ignorant comments about it. I have seen it happen. Black women spend a ton of money and time to get their hair looking the way they want it to look. White women could not possibly understand. There are larger cultural issues at play that need considered when looking at that statement.

And again, the OP took her rage a bit too far. She needed to look at the intent of the teacher. The act was done out of love. It doesn't excuse the ignorance but it should have tempered the OP's anger.

Pretty d@mn sure non of those women are alive today, why continue the hatred?

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Never seen that either.

And yeah, they do spend hours in salon chairs.

It takes an hour or more for a good washing.

But that has NOTHING to do with this.

The OP is completely out of line.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Mellow Momma wrote:
Honeys_Mom wrote:
"...white hands in my child's hair..."? What a hateful bigot.
Again, you have to understand the cultural context for what she is saying here. For centuries, white women have been telling black women what appropriate hair styles for the black women are. White women routinely walk up to black women and touch their hair and make some ignorant comments about it. I have seen it happen. Black women spend a ton of money and time to get their hair looking the way they want it to look. White women could not possibly understand. There are larger cultural issues at play that need considered when looking at that statement.

And again, the OP took her rage a bit too far. She needed to look at the intent of the teacher. The act was done out of love. It doesn't excuse the ignorance but it should have tempered the OP's anger.

And this rationalization for bigotry is why it is allowed to flourish. It's getting worse.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Honeys_Mom wrote:
"...white hands in my child's hair..."? What a hateful bigot.
Again, you have to understand the cultural context for what she is saying here. For centuries, white women have been telling black women what appropriate hair styles for the black women are. White women routinely walk up to black women and touch their hair and make some ignorant comments about it. I have seen it happen. Black women spend a ton of money and time to get their hair looking the way they want it to look. White women could not possibly understand. There are larger cultural issues at play that need considered when looking at that statement.

And again, the OP took her rage a bit too far. She needed to look at the intent of the teacher. The act was done out of love. It doesn't excuse the ignorance but it should have tempered the OP's anger.
Pretty d@mn sure non of those women are alive today, why continue the hatred?

What women aren't alive now? The white women who approach black women and tell them how to wear their hair? They certainly are. You should hang around more black women more often. I have seen white women tell my black friends or black coworkers how they should do their hair. It isn't meant in a kind way either. It's meant in a derogatory way. I have been present when my black women friends have had white women walk up and touch their hair without asking or their children's hair. It's appalling.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Lawyerlady wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Honeys_Mom wrote:
"...white hands in my child's hair..."? What a hateful bigot.
Again, you have to understand the cultural context for what she is saying here. For centuries, white women have been telling black women what appropriate hair styles for the black women are. White women routinely walk up to black women and touch their hair and make some ignorant comments about it. I have seen it happen. Black women spend a ton of money and time to get their hair looking the way they want it to look. White women could not possibly understand. There are larger cultural issues at play that need considered when looking at that statement.

And again, the OP took her rage a bit too far. She needed to look at the intent of the teacher. The act was done out of love. It doesn't excuse the ignorance but it should have tempered the OP's anger.
And this rationalization for bigotry is why it is allowed to flourish. It's getting worse.

What part of "the OP took her rage too far" did you not understand ? I think the OP was way out of line. But that doesn't mean others in the story couldn't have also been out of line - intentionally or not.

Divine Geek · Guru

I have never seen anyone walk up to a black woman and touch her hair.

I do know there are differences to their hair. I had a very pleasant conversation with a customer about it once. My cousin's daughter is biracial. She definitely got her mom's hair. I expressed how frustrated my aunt had been trying to learn how to do her granddaughters hair. My customer was great, explained a little about her hair and told me to send my aunt over to her house and she would teach her all about it. So obviously it is not a black thing to forbid white hands. It's just this one hateful person that needs to get over herself.

WYSIWYG · Guru

I assumed the unspoken rule about not touching Black hair was well known.
- OP

_______________________

What "unspoken rule" is that? I never knew it. What makes black hair different from red or blonde?

Vette · Owl drink to that!

Divine Geek wrote:
I have never seen anyone walk up to a black woman and touch her hair.

I do know there are differences to their hair. I had a very pleasant conversation with a customer about it once. My cousin's daughter is biracial. She definitely got her mom's hair. I expressed how frustrated my aunt had been trying to learn how to do her granddaughters hair. My customer was great, explained a little about her hair and told me to send my aunt over to her house and she would teach her all about it. So obviously it is not a black thing to forbid white hands. It's just this one hateful person that needs to get over herself.

Well said

WYSIWYG · Guru

Oh.

Wait.

Black hair - not black hair.

Oops.

She's definitely a racist. As well as being nuttier than a warehouse full of fruitcakes.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Mellow Momma wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Mellow Momma wrote:
Honeys_Mom wrote:
"...white hands in my child's hair..."? What a hateful bigot.
Again, you have to understand the cultural context for what she is saying here. For centuries, white women have been telling black women what appropriate hair styles for the black women are. White women routinely walk up to black women and touch their hair and make some ignorant comments about it. I have seen it happen. Black women spend a ton of money and time to get their hair looking the way they want it to look. White women could not possibly understand. There are larger cultural issues at play that need considered when looking at that statement.

And again, the OP took her rage a bit too far. She needed to look at the intent of the teacher. The act was done out of love. It doesn't excuse the ignorance but it should have tempered the OP's anger.
And this rationalization for bigotry is why it is allowed to flourish. It's getting worse.
What part of "the OP took her rage too far" did you not understand ? I think the OP was way out of line. But that doesn't mean others in the story couldn't have also been out of line - intentionally or not.

No one was out of line but the mother. The child went to school without her hair done, complained to the teacher she was hot, and the teacher helped her. End of story. The mother is a loon. I suppose the teacher could have said, "sorry kid, I can't help you because you are black and I'm white." Yeah - that would have been better. evileye

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

The teacher says flat out that if a black teacher had done the exact same thing, it would have been perfectly fine. The teacher did not ruin the hair or do anything bad to it. It's flat out racism - and there is NO EXCUSE for it.

FNW · Guru

I am aware of the unspoken (don't touch black hair) rule. They are very protective of their hair.

That being said, I don't think there was any racial intent on the part of the teacher...she probably thought she was trying to help. This reminds me of the Grey's Anatomy episode where Grey didn't do her adopted daughter's hair (because she didn't know how) and got some weird looks whenever she dropped her off at the hospital daycare.

The only racist in this situation was the black mother.