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sweet tooth wrote:
Does anyone know how social security disability works? This is the situation: my cousin has kidney disease that is progressively getting worse. She is at stage four out of five stages (stage 5 is kidney failure and requires dialysis or a transplant to stay alive). She is 50 years old and still working, but her job is stressful and tiring for her. We know that she can get disability when she reaches stage five, but what about now? If she quits the job now and then stays in stage four for months or even a couple of years, will she still be able to get disability when she gets to stage 5? Or does she have to work right up until she just can't do it anymore?

Does she have private disability insurance at work? If so, I bet the HR dept can help explain her employer benefits and then SS disability for follow on.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Since it takes forever to get disability, I think she should talk to a lawyer that specializes in SS disability. They will be able to guide her.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Here's the thing. It can't take 3-4 years to get disability.

And that's with doctors agreeing you need it.

Get a lawyer. Find one that doesn't get paid till you do.

They have caps and can only take up to a certain amount.

She needs to find a lawyer and apply now.

No one gets approved for disability the first time they apply.

It's is a long, long process.

Very few get approved the second time they file.

Most go to a judge.

Once it is decided to go to a judge, the waiting period before court date can be 18 months to almost 3 years.

The best advice I can give, is get the lawyer and get this in motion.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Not everyone gets denied - although when the disability claim is based on pain that is hard to prove, like back injuries, RA, etc., then yes, it can take years.

However, with a diagnosed terminal illness that can't really be disputed, or doesn't have any subjective opinion, it goes faster. My babysitter's husband was fast-tracked and approved in less than 2 months when he was diagnosed with early onset dementia.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

It is harder to apply for disability when you are still working, though.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lawyerlady wrote:
Not everyone gets denied - although when the disability claim is based on pain that is hard to prove, like back injuries, RA, etc., then yes, it can take years.

However, with a diagnosed terminal illness that can't really be disputed, or doesn't have any subjective opinion, it goes faster. My babysitter's husband was fast-tracked and approved in less than 2 months when he was diagnosed with early onset dementia.

No. Not according to my lawyer.

He had just gotten a ruling after going to court with a cancer patient.

Patient had end stage brain cancer, was given maybe a year, and she was denied.

That was the second round of attempts to get her disability.

They had been trying for 8 years.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Not everyone gets denied - although when the disability claim is based on pain that is hard to prove, like back injuries, RA, etc., then yes, it can take years.

However, with a diagnosed terminal illness that can't really be disputed, or doesn't have any subjective opinion, it goes faster. My babysitter's husband was fast-tracked and approved in less than 2 months when he was diagnosed with early onset dementia.
No. Not according to my lawyer.
He had just gotten a ruling after going to court with a cancer patient.
Patient had end stage brain cancer, was given maybe a year, and she was denied.
That was the second round of attempts to get her disability.
They had been trying for 8 years.

So I'm lying about my personal knowledge of someone approved in less than 2 months?

Ohfour · Hooker

Our best friend was approved in about 2 months too. And he's not terminal.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Perhaps Lily's lawyer is just not very good?

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Not everyone gets denied - although when the disability claim is based on pain that is hard to prove, like back injuries, RA, etc., then yes, it can take years.

However, with a diagnosed terminal illness that can't really be disputed, or doesn't have any subjective opinion, it goes faster. My babysitter's husband was fast-tracked and approved in less than 2 months when he was diagnosed with early onset dementia.
No. Not according to my lawyer.
He had just gotten a ruling after going to court with a cancer patient.
Patient had end stage brain cancer, was given maybe a year, and she was denied.
That was the second round of attempts to get her disability.
They had been trying for 8 years.

So I'm lying about my personal knowledge of someone approved in less than 2 months?

Really? That's how you choose to read what I posted?

Goodness.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lawyerlady wrote:
Perhaps Lily's lawyer is just not very good?

Wow.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Ohfour wrote:
Our best friend was approved in about 2 months too. And he's not terminal.

I'm sure it happens.

But it isn't the norm.

Most have to file more than once.

And then there are the judges.

Some will give it to anyone with a swollen hang nail.

Others won't give it to anyone.

Ohfour · Hooker

lilyofcourse wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
Our best friend was approved in about 2 months too. And he's not terminal.
I'm sure it happens.
But it isn't the norm.
Most have to file more than once.
And then there are the judges.
Some will give it to anyone with a swollen hang nail.
Others won't give it to anyone.

My friend never had to go in front of a judge. He applied and was approved....

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Not everyone gets denied - although when the disability claim is based on pain that is hard to prove, like back injuries, RA, etc., then yes, it can take years.

However, with a diagnosed terminal illness that can't really be disputed, or doesn't have any subjective opinion, it goes faster. My babysitter's husband was fast-tracked and approved in less than 2 months when he was diagnosed with early onset dementia.
No. Not according to my lawyer.
He had just gotten a ruling after going to court with a cancer patient.
Patient had end stage brain cancer, was given maybe a year, and she was denied.
That was the second round of attempts to get her disability.
They had been trying for 8 years.

So I'm lying about my personal knowledge of someone approved in less than 2 months?
Really? That's how you choose to read what I posted?
Goodness.

How else am I supposed to read it? I posted something I know personally, and you said "no - not according to my lawyer".

Well, two things - first of all - you and your lawyer can kiss my ass, don't you dare tell me something I know personally is not true. Second - If he can't get a terminal end stage brain cancer patient approved for disability - he sucks.

Oughttabeworking · Regular

My X also got disability the first time he applied (well, I applied on his behalf), and without a bunch of hoopla. Of course, he was rated 100% disabled by the VA already, so maybe that had an impact.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Claimants with a terminal illness can get their Social Security Disability claim approved faster than normal claims.

by Beth Laurence, J.D.

When a person with a terminal illness applies for SSDI or SSI disability benefits, the Social Security Administration will process the application quickly, and with special sensitivity to the patient's emotional state. For instance, a terminal patient will not be notified that his or her file will be processed under the terminal illness program (TERI).

How Are TERI Cases Identified?

Terminal illness cases are those that are expected to result in the applicant's death. An applicant doesn't have to state on the application that the illness is terminal for it to be expedited under the TERI program. A field office representative or a claims examiner at the DDS (Disability Determination Services) can send a claim into the TERI program when a doctor, family member, or friend states that that the illness is expected to result in death or when the claimant is receiving inpatient hospice care or home hospice care. In addition, if the patient has applied for disability on account of ALS (amyotrophic lateral sclerosis), also known as Lou Gehrig’s Disease, or AIDS (acquired immune deficiency syndrome), the patient is brought into the TERI system.

What Medical Conditions Are Eligible for TERI?

The following medical conditions are eligible for TERI treatment, but this list is not exhaustive; any terminal illness can qualify for TERI expedited processing.

Cancer that is metastatic, Stage IV, recurrent following therapy, or inoperable.
Cancer of the esophagus, liver, pancreas, gallbladder, or brain.
Small cell or oat cell lung cancer.
Mesothelioma.
Acute myelogenous leukemia (AML) or acute lymphocytic leukemia (ALL).
Dependence on a cardiopulmonary life-sustaining device.
Chronic heart failure or pulmonary failure, requiring continuous oxygen and caregivers.
Comatose for 30 days or more.
Newborn with a fatal genetic or congenital defect.
Awaiting a liver, lung, heart, or bone marrow transplant.

The disability examiner at DDS must consult with a medical consultant before making a TERI determination, as with any regular disability case.

Other Expedited Disability Determination Programs

Some cases that are in the TERI system could also qualify for expedited treatment through the Presumptive Disability program for SSI (such as AIDS or ALS or any patient in hospice), or the Compassionate Allowances program (many cancers can be expedited through either the TERI program or the Compassionate Allowances program), or theQuick Disability Determination program (QDD).

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

sweet tooth wrote:
Does anyone know how social security disability works? This is the situation: my cousin has kidney disease that is progressively getting worse. She is at stage four out of five stages (stage 5 is kidney failure and requires dialysis or a transplant to stay alive). She is 50 years old and still working, but her job is stressful and tiring for her. We know that she can get disability when she reaches stage five, but what about now? If she quits the job now and then stays in stage four for months or even a couple of years, will she still be able to get disability when she gets to stage 5? Or does she have to work right up until she just can't do it anymore?

These are the requirements under the SSI guidelines:

Social Security Disability and kidney disease

The SSA Blue Book describes conditions that are eligible for disability benefits, as well as the associated test results or symptoms that are required for the condition to be considered a disability. You typically need to meet or exceed at least one of the criteria to qualify for disability benefits.

In the Blue Book, kidney disease can be found under Genitourinary Disorders in Section 6.00. For your kidney disease to be considered a disability by the SSA, at least one of the following statements must be true:

1. You have chronic kidney disease and need dialysis.

2. You have chronic kidney disease and have had a kidney transplant less than one year ago.

3. You have chronic kidney disease with reduced kidney function and at least one of the following:

a. Renal osteodystrophy: a bone disease caused by failing kidneys, with severe bone pain and abnormalities.
b. Peripheral neuropathy: a nerve disease that causes pain, numbness, tingling and muscle weakness in various parts of the body from toxins the kidneys couldn’t filter out.
c. Fluid overload syndrome: a condition where water and salt are retained in the body and causes abnormally large blood vessels with high blood pressure, swelling of the skin, or a BMI of 18.0 or less from weight loss.
d. Nephrotic syndrome (when protein is lost in urine), shown in testing twice in one year, with swelling of the skin for at least 90 days.

4. You have chronic kidney disease and the complications have resulted in at least three hospitalizations in one year. They must occur 30 or more days apart and must last 48 hours, including hours in a hospital emergency department immediately before the hospitalization.

If you do not fall into any of these categories, you can still qualify for disability benefits if your kidney disease and treatments keep you from working. The SSA will give you a Residual Functioning Capacity (RFC) exam, which is a questionnaire that determines your ability to stand, sit, walk, lift weight and perform other day-to-day activities. If your kidney disease keeps you from working at even a sedentary job, you meet the medical criteria to qualify for disability benefits.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Can I Work With Kidney Failure?

Kidney failure, also called end stage renal disease or Stage Five Kidney Disease, is a serious condition and is recognized as such by the Social Security Administration. To qualify as kidney failure for Social Security Disability purposes, you must have received or need a transplant or need to be on dialysis to survive.

The exact specifications regarding kidney failure are listed in the Social Security Administration’s Blue Book. Most doctors and all Social Security Disability lawyers will be familiar with what is need to substantiate a disability claim due to kidney failure.

Those who are suffering from kidney failure do not generally experience much difficulty qualifying for Social Security Disability benefits if their paperwork is in order, as those with kidney failure clearly can not be expected to perform any meaningful labor. Because of this, those with kidney failure typically qualify for a compassionate allowance, which enables a Social Security Disability claim to be accepted in a matter of about three weeks rather than several months or years which most Social Security Disability cases tend to take.

Additionally, those with kidney failure are able to qualify for Medicare as soon as Social Security Disability is approved, rather than needing to wait two years (as most Social Security Disability beneficiaries do).

Kidney Failure and Your Ability to Perform Physical Work

Kidney failure makes it impossible to perform even light physical work due to the constant need for dialysis. Those suffering from end stage renal disease are generally confined to their homes or a treatment facility until they can receive a transplant. Those who do receive a kidney transplant are still considered disabled for at least one year after the transplant and are eligible for Social Security Disability benefits during that time as long as they meet the other requirements (quarters worked for SSDI and income limits for SSI).

Those in earlier stages of kidney disease may find it helpful to retain a Social Security Disability lawyer to help make their case for Social Security Disability. Additionally, if you are turned down for Social Security Disability benefits while suffering from kidney failure, you should absolutely seek the help of a Social Security Disability attorney. Generally speaking, kidney failure represents an open and shut case in which the sufferer is found to be clearly disabled, making them unable to continue performing any kind of meaningful work.

Kidney Failure and Your Ability to Perform Sedentary Work

Those who have kidney failure are not generally capable of performing any work, including sedentary work. While many Social Security Disability claimants have a difficult time proving that they cannot perform any kind of sedentary (sit down) work without extenuating circumstances, the Social Security Administration recognizes kidney failure as a condition which clearly hinders sufferers from performing even the lightest of tasks for any period of time.

If you do receive a kidney transplant, you are likely to be re-evaluated a year after your transplant to determine whether you are still eligible for Social Security Disability benefits. If your condition has improved as a result of your transplant, you will be expected to return to find employment. If there are circumstances which preclude this, you should consider having a Social Security Disability lawyer represent you, as they will know what the SSA is looking for in determining whether or not you are still completely disabled.

Make sure that your initial application for Social Security Disability benefits clearly states that you have kidney failure (end stage renal disease) and that the appropriate medical documentation is included. Because kidney failure qualifies you for a compassionate allowance, you should expect to receive a decision on your case within three weeks. If you don’t, contact the Social Security Administration to find out why you haven’t or contact a Social Security Disability lawyer to represent you.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

sweet tooth - is she on the transplant list?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

My uncle had a stroke and was completely paralyzed on the left side and he was denied. They said he could answer phones.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

I worked with a man who left early 2 times a week for dialysis. He couldn't get any SSD and was working until his appeal was heard. He only left 1 hour early so the company just paid him for the time and told him not to worry about it.

Nobody Just Nobody · Rib-it! Rrrib-it!

My son applied and was approved in about two months. But we had no doubt what his doctors would say. I think they were a huge help.

Mellow Momma · Sniff...sniff, sniff. Yay! A Bum!

Just for clarification - telling another poster to kiss your ass is not against the rules apparently.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Mellow Momma wrote:
Just for clarification - telling another poster to kiss your ass is not against the rules apparently.

Go read them and tell me if you find it.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Not everyone gets denied - although when the disability claim is based on pain that is hard to prove, like back injuries, RA, etc., then yes, it can take years.

However, with a diagnosed terminal illness that can't really be disputed, or doesn't have any subjective opinion, it goes faster. My babysitter's husband was fast-tracked and approved in less than 2 months when he was diagnosed with early onset dementia.
No. Not according to my lawyer.
He had just gotten a ruling after going to court with a cancer patient.
Patient had end stage brain cancer, was given maybe a year, and she was denied.
That was the second round of attempts to get her disability.
They had been trying for 8 years.

So I'm lying about my personal knowledge of someone approved in less than 2 months?
Really? That's how you choose to read what I posted?
Goodness.

How else am I supposed to read it? I posted something I know personally, and you said "no - not according to my lawyer".
Well, two things - first of all - you and your lawyer can kiss my ass, don't you dare tell me something I know personally is not true. Second - If he can't get a terminal end stage brain cancer patient approved for disability - he sucks.

I REFUSE to play this game with you.

I've seen you do this too many times.

I didn't call you a liar.

And I'm not going to apologize for relating MY PERSONAL experience nor the words of a good lawyer.

You've had one experience, I've had another.

The branch that handled the case you are talking about is most likely not the same that handled my case.

Now. Can we continue this discussion like adults without the accusations?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
My uncle had a stroke and was completely paralyzed on the left side and he was denied. They said he could answer phones.

And this is the problem with the system. They will deny some that really need it, and then approve people that really don't.

But one person's experience does not make a rule.

Domestic Engineer · Guru

Mother has kidney disease and only has half of one kidney remaining. She is not on dialysis. She was approved first time with no attorney involved.

Brother has Mutiple Sclerosis was in a wheelchair, lost the use and bladder control. He was approved first time with no attorney.

Dad was seriously injured in an on the job accident. When his work disability expired, he applied, without an attorney, and was approved for disability. After months of rehab, he called social security and asked how to get it stopped because he wanted to return to work. They thanked him for calling and said he could return to work full time and continue to draw for 6 months. If he was unable to continue working it was no harm, no foul. If after 6 months he was still working they would suspend his disability for a year to make sure he was going to be able to continue working. He worked 5 - 7 more years before taking regular retirement.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Not everyone gets denied - although when the disability claim is based on pain that is hard to prove, like back injuries, RA, etc., then yes, it can take years.

However, with a diagnosed terminal illness that can't really be disputed, or doesn't have any subjective opinion, it goes faster. My babysitter's husband was fast-tracked and approved in less than 2 months when he was diagnosed with early onset dementia.
No. Not according to my lawyer.
He had just gotten a ruling after going to court with a cancer patient.
Patient had end stage brain cancer, was given maybe a year, and she was denied.
That was the second round of attempts to get her disability.
They had been trying for 8 years.

So I'm lying about my personal knowledge of someone approved in less than 2 months?
Really? That's how you choose to read what I posted?
Goodness.

How else am I supposed to read it? I posted something I know personally, and you said "no - not according to my lawyer".
Well, two things - first of all - you and your lawyer can kiss my ass, don't you dare tell me something I know personally is not true. Second - If he can't get a terminal end stage brain cancer patient approved for disability - he sucks.
I REFUSE to play this game with you.
I've seen you do this too many times.
I didn't call you a liar.
And I'm not going to apologize for relating MY PERSONAL experience nor the words of a good lawyer.
You've had one experience, I've had another.
The branch that handled the case you are talking about is most likely not the same that handled my case.
Now. Can we continue this discussion like adults without the accusations?

Bull.

And your lawyer telling you he couldn't get an end stage cancer patient approved was his excuse for the time it was taking to get you approved. Of course, the debilitating pain of RA is hard to prove, and hard to get disability approved, especially when doctors don't agree whether or not you can continue working.

I hardly think a brain cancer diagnoses is something reasonable doctors disagree on that often - either there's cancer or there is not. And if he really couldn't get her approved - I will not agree that he's good.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Your opinion .

My experience.

Pawpaw had a stroke, couldn't do anything. Like 1 year old, couldn't get disability, applied with out a lawyer 3 times, applied with a different lawyer from mine 3 times, went to court, denied.

Other pawpaw, was diagnosed with terminal bone and lung cancer given maybe 3 months to live in January, applied for disability immediately, denied. Got a lawyer, denied, died in April, last ruling came in the day after he died, denied.

Great aunt with Alzheimers, applied repeatedly from 1989 till her death in 1999, denied every single time.

Uncle, legally blind, denied 4 times.

Aunt, complete stroke, and still has strokes on average of twice a week. Began the process 2 years ago, still being denied and is in the process of applying again, court dates are being made 18 months to 2 years out.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

And FYI - my father died of brain cancer. His disability was approved right after he was diagnosed, and I know that because I got disability checks as a minor for 3 years before he died.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
Your opinion .

My experience.

Pawpaw had a stroke, couldn't do anything. Like 1 year old, couldn't get disability, applied with out a lawyer 3 times, applied with a different lawyer from mine 3 times, went to court, denied.

Other pawpaw, was diagnosed with terminal bone and lung cancer given maybe 3 months to live in January, applied for disability immediately, denied. Got a lawyer, denied, died in April, last ruling came in the day after he died, denied.
Great aunt with Alzheimers, applied repeatedly from 1989 till her death in 1999, denied every single time.
Uncle, legally blind, denied 4 times.
Aunt, complete stroke, and still has strokes on average of twice a week. Began the process 2 years ago, still being denied and is in the process of applying again, court dates are being made 18 months to 2 years out.

Did y'all use the same lawyer?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Lily - why were senior citizens applying for disability? They should have already qualified for social security and medicare.

The income and assets they already had could easily be the reason for the denial.

-- Edited by Lawyerlady on Friday 19th of August 2016 01:20:55 PM

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Your opinion .

My experience.

Pawpaw had a stroke, couldn't do anything. Like 1 year old, couldn't get disability, applied with out a lawyer 3 times, applied with a different lawyer from mine 3 times, went to court, denied.

Other pawpaw, was diagnosed with terminal bone and lung cancer given maybe 3 months to live in January, applied for disability immediately, denied. Got a lawyer, denied, died in April, last ruling came in the day after he died, denied.
Great aunt with Alzheimers, applied repeatedly from 1989 till her death in 1999, denied every single time.
Uncle, legally blind, denied 4 times.
Aunt, complete stroke, and still has strokes on average of twice a week. Began the process 2 years ago, still being denied and is in the process of applying again, court dates are being made 18 months to 2 years out.

Did y'all use the same lawyer?

No.

But it is all in the same branch.

I had to go to Chattanooga for court.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Well, your uncle being legally blind AUTOMATICALLY qualifies him for SSI disability unless he already has income (including social security) and assets equalling over $2000 per month.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lawyerlady wrote:
Lily - why were senior citizens applying for disability? They should have already qualified for social security and medicare.

Pawpaw was vet. I don't know all the facts. But I know he was denied for disability.

Other pawpaw was still working up until December.

Great aunt, was in her 50s

Uncle and aunt are in their late 50s.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lawyerlady wrote:
Well, your uncle being legally blind AUTOMATICALLY qualifies him for SSI disability unless he already has income (including social security) and assets equalling over $2000 per month.

Nope.

He doesnt. Aunt was the only one working, when she had her stroke, they lost everything.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Great aunt with Alzheimers, applied repeatedly from 1989 till her death in 1999, denied every single time.

If she had no assets, she would have qualified for medicaid in a nursing home, no reason to file for disability. And if she had income and assets, she would likely have been denied for that reason.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

There is no "automatic" anything where the government is concerned.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lawyerlady wrote:
Great aunt with Alzheimers, applied repeatedly from 1989 till her death in 1999, denied every single time.

If she had no assets, she would have qualified for medicaid in a nursing home, no reason to file for disability. And if she had income and assets, she would likely have been denied for that reason.

I love how you are attempting to disprove my experience.

Things I have seen with my own eyes.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lily - why were senior citizens applying for disability? They should have already qualified for social security and medicare.
Pawpaw was vet. I don't know all the facts. But I know he was denied for disability.
Other pawpaw was still working up until December.
Great aunt, was in her 50s
Uncle and aunt are in their late 50s.

Your great aunt died of Alzhiemer's in her 50s and couldn't get qualified for disability? Back in the 80s? That's really young to have Alzheimer's and to be a great aunt.

Yep. The lawyers must have sucked. I've never known anyone that disabled to not get eventually approved - usually within 2 years or so. And that's people that can still actually function. And the ones I've known that REALLY OBVIOUSLY need it (like brain cancer, wheelchairs, blind) have been approved quickly.

Now, my FIL is stage 5 kidney disease and does dialysis 3 times a week, but he would be denied for disability because of their retirement income and assets.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Great aunt with Alzheimers, applied repeatedly from 1989 till her death in 1999, denied every single time.

If she had no assets, she would have qualified for medicaid in a nursing home, no reason to file for disability. And if she had income and assets, she would likely have been denied for that reason.
I love how you are attempting to disprove my experience.
Things I have seen with my own eyes.

Yes, I'm certain a 15-18 year old was well versed in the disability system and the details of her great aunt's assets, health, and actions.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
There is no "automatic" anything where the government is concerned.

Tell that to people that get approved within 2 months without a hearing.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Aunt was 52 when diagnosed, died 10 years later, on her birthday.

Yeah, I guess 5 different lawyers sucked.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
There is no "automatic" anything where the government is concerned.
Tell that to people that get approved within 2 months without a hearing.

Only if you tell your truth to those who don't get approved for years.

Ohfour · Hooker

Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Lily - why were senior citizens applying for disability? They should have already qualified for social security and medicare.
Pawpaw was vet. I don't know all the facts. But I know he was denied for disability.
Other pawpaw was still working up until December.
Great aunt, was in her 50s
Uncle and aunt are in their late 50s.

Your great aunt died of Alzhiemer's in her 50s and couldn't get qualified for disability? Back in the 80s? That's really young to have Alzheimer's and to be a great aunt.

Yep. The lawyers must have sucked. I've never known anyone that disabled to not get eventually approved - usually within 2 years or so. And that's people that can still actually function. And the ones I've known that REALLY OBVIOUSLY need it (like brain cancer, wheelchairs, blind) have been approved quickly.

Now, my FIL is stage 5 kidney disease and does dialysis 3 times a week, but he would be denied for disability because of their retirement income and assets.

Hey now...I'm a great aunt. and so is my sister...and she's 42 and Sweetness is 3, so she was a great aunt at 39... wink

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
Aunt was 52 when diagnosed, died 10 years later, on her birthday.

Yeah, I guess 5 different lawyers sucked.

Either that - or your family should have moved. Since no one who needs disability in your area gets approved.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
There is no "automatic" anything where the government is concerned.
Tell that to people that get approved within 2 months without a hearing.
Only if you tell your truth to those who don't get approved for years.

I believe I have already posted the difficulty differences of getting approved for a subjective disability vs. an objective one.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Lawyerlady wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
Great aunt with Alzheimers, applied repeatedly from 1989 till her death in 1999, denied every single time.

If she had no assets, she would have qualified for medicaid in a nursing home, no reason to file for disability. And if she had income and assets, she would likely have been denied for that reason.
I love how you are attempting to disprove my experience.
Things I have seen with my own eyes.

Yes, I'm certain a 15-18 year old was well versed in the disability system and the details of her great aunt's assets, health, and actions.

I was 19 in 1989.

10 years later I was divorced and raising 3 kids and working 50-60 hours a week.

Yeah, I wasn't in on all the details, but I do believe I know a little bit more about the situation than you.

You accused me of calling you a liar, why are you so hell bent on trying to make me look like a liar?

You have different experiences than I have had.

Neither makes either of us liars.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

Also - reapplying doesn't work - it almost automatically results in another denial. You need to appeal and go through that process instead.