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So I received an email form my prior employer offering me a job in Brussels. First I would love to go and so would DD.  It would be for two years. Of course, Exdh would never allow that.  Put that aside. What would you do?  Uproot and move a totally different country and have 1 month to do so?  I so want to have that experience.  The thing is, the same opportunity will be there in a few years, close to the time when DD can decide things for herself.  I want to got now!  Second, financially, it is such a great lucrative job and afterwards when I come back to the states, I will have no issue finding a position.  GRRR I so want to go.

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First, congratulations on the offer. That's a huge pat on the back.

As for what I would do, if it meant I had to leave my kids, I just couldn't do it.

I'd have to wait until they were older and could go with me or support themselves.


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I would never leave DD at this age. But would love her to have such an experience. Hate Ex DH

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I think that job in Akron sounds way more exciting...😜

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I know you wouldn't. I couldn't either.

But heck yeah! If I could go and take the kids, at your DD's age, I'd totally do it!

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What a great experience you and your daughter would have. Who knows maybe your ex will surprise you and let dd go.

My granddaughter had friends from Australia, Russia, China, Brazil, Japan and of course Indonesia.

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Is there any way you could convince him to allow her to go? It isn't forever and she would still be a minor when you returned.

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I agree with Lindley, maybe he will surprise you. If you can, I say go.

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As I said, I would be dreaming to even think I can take DD right now. I did let them know I am interested but right now is not possible. But what I do need to do is research it, get more information to see what all is involved. I know several people already working over there.

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Is it possible to go over there for a shorter term? That might be a possible compromise. If not, then you should at least have a discussion with your ex. Maybe he would see this as a great opportunity for your dd. On the other hand, if i was him, i would not want to miss the important years of my DD's life either, so i could understand if he isn't in favor of it.

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How old is DD? I think my decision, if DD's father would allow, would depend on her age and how she felt about it. My mother grew up with parents who had "itchy feet." Constantly moving. She went to 4 high schools, as an example. She hated it. Never wanted it for us kids, so we remained put in the same house for 15 years. She hated always being the "new girl" in school. Horrible for her.

I have a friend who was a military brat. Same thing. She hated it as well, leaving her friends behind all the time.

If it were just you, I would say go, what a wonderful experience. But it's not just you anymore. And I know you know this and are torn. As for the ex, if I were him, I would not want my child living 30 minutes away much less several hours away in a foreign country.

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However, if you really want to travel, then why not just travel? Why don't you and DD go on an overseas vacation?

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However, if you really want to travel, then why not just travel? Why don't you and DD go on an overseas vacation?


 Because he refuses to sign a passport application for DD.  Hence how I know he not let her move oversees. 



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However, if you really want to travel, then why not just travel? Why don't you and DD go on an overseas vacation?


 Because he refuses to sign a passport application for DD.  Hence how I know he not let her move oversees. 


 Oh.  Well he's just being a butt then.



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However, if you really want to travel, then why not just travel? Why don't you and DD go on an overseas vacation?


 Because he refuses to sign a passport application for DD.  Hence how I know he not let her move oversees. 


 Oh.  Well he's just being a butt then.


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Is there some point where she might travel with her class and need a passport?

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Is there some point where she might travel with her class and need a passport?


 Not until HS and would still need his permission.



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I wouldn't be thinking about it. I would be packing. There is no substitute for this kind of experience.

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Who would she be staying with if you took the job?  But yes, I would take the job!



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OK - ex DH IS being a butt about not allowing the passport for vacations, but he is not a butt to say no to his kid moving overseas for 2 years. Sorry - but I wouldn't let my kid go without me.

Luckily for you, the opportunity will still be there in a few years, but you have to realize that a teenager may not want to go then.

We sacrifice a lot for our kids - this is just one of those things.

But yes, I would love the opportunity to go.

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Who would she be staying with if you took the job?  But yes, I would take the job!


 She would move with me. But since she can't move, I won't be going just now.



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LL, makes sense.

You don't want to be away from your daughter for 2 years and he wouldn't either.

And while there is always visits, a couple visits is not the same as being in the same area and seeing each other weekly.

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LL, makes sense.

You don't want to be away from your daughter for 2 years and he wouldn't either.

And while there is always visits, a couple visits is not the same as being in the same area and seeing each other weekly.


 I do agree it just would be a wonderful learning experience for both DD and I.



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I'd start talking it up to DD now. Get her excited about it.

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Yeah, it would.

Hey, maybe college abroad?

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It really depends on the personality and age of your daughter I think. I mean, after my parent's divorce they lived in different states and I moved back and forth between them and I don't remember being traumatized from it. But I have a personality where I like change and get bored in one placed for too long. So I lived with my dad for my middle school years, my mom for the first half of high school and my dad for the last half of high school.

I guess my point is kids are normally more resilient than we give them credit for, and maybe she will welcome the change of pace?

The whole bit about the passport is pretty petty and messed up, he's hindering her potential growth just to be a butthole.

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On the other hand, if DD WANTS to go - you may be able to get the courts to let you go b/c it's such an opportunity for both of you. Difficult, yes, but not completely impossible.

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On the other hand, if DD WANTS to go - you may be able to get the courts to let you go b/c it's such an opportunity for both of you. Difficult, yes, but not completely impossible.


 She does want to go.  She would love the schools there.  They are set up for kids from all over the North Atlantic.  I know she would benefit tremendously from the experience.  We would live in the city which is very exciting.



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On the other hand, if DD WANTS to go - you may be able to get the courts to let you go b/c it's such an opportunity for both of you. Difficult, yes, but not completely impossible.


 She does want to go.  She would love the schools there.  They are set up for kids from all over the North Atlantic.  I know she would benefit tremendously from the experience.  We would live in the city which is very exciting.


 OK.  So, she has to tell her dad - not you.  In passing.  "Mom got a job offer in Brussels."  "What??!!!!???"  "Yeah, she turned it down b/c she knew you wouldn't let me go.  Said it would be too big a fight."  Then the tears have to come.  Crocodile ones.  "I think it sounds really cool."  In a whisper with sobs.  



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What would happen to your house while you're gone? Sell it? Keep it vacant and ask someone to check it now and then? Get renters?

What about Sonny? Take him? Rehome him? Find someone to watch him for 2 years?

What if you love it and want it to be a permanent change?

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On the other hand, if DD WANTS to go - you may be able to get the courts to let you go b/c it's such an opportunity for both of you. Difficult, yes, but not completely impossible.


 She does want to go.  She would love the schools there.  They are set up for kids from all over the North Atlantic.  I know she would benefit tremendously from the experience.  We would live in the city which is very exciting.


 OK.  So, she has to tell her dad - not you.  In passing.  "Mom got a job offer in Brussels."  "What??!!!!???"  "Yeah, she turned it down b/c she knew you wouldn't let me go.  Said it would be too big a fight."  Then the tears have to come.  Crocodile ones.  "I think it sounds really cool."  In a whisper with sobs.  


 Oh, you're good!



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He might for dd. My dd rented their house while they were overseas. I agree with LL, let your dd ask her dad. This would be a great experience for your dd.

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Would he allow her to visit? If so, I would take the job and have her come visit you for the entire summer and Christmas Break.

While it would kill me to be away from my daughter, if I could work out a deal that would allow her to spend a good amount of time in Europe I'd take it.

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Lawyerlady wrote:
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On the other hand, if DD WANTS to go - you may be able to get the courts to let you go b/c it's such an opportunity for both of you. Difficult, yes, but not completely impossible.


 She does want to go.  She would love the schools there.  They are set up for kids from all over the North Atlantic.  I know she would benefit tremendously from the experience.  We would live in the city which is very exciting.


 OK.  So, she has to tell her dad - not you.  In passing.  "Mom got a job offer in Brussels."  "What??!!!!???"  "Yeah, she turned it down b/c she knew you wouldn't let me go.  Said it would be too big a fight."  Then the tears have to come.  Crocodile ones.  "I think it sounds really cool."  In a whisper with sobs.  


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On the other hand, if DD WANTS to go - you may be able to get the courts to let you go b/c it's such an opportunity for both of you. Difficult, yes, but not completely impossible.


 She does want to go.  She would love the schools there.  They are set up for kids from all over the North Atlantic.  I know she would benefit tremendously from the experience.  We would live in the city which is very exciting.


 OK.  So, she has to tell her dad - not you.  In passing.  "Mom got a job offer in Brussels."  "What??!!!!???"  "Yeah, she turned it down b/c she knew you wouldn't let me go.  Said it would be too big a fight."  Then the tears have to come.  Crocodile ones.  "I think it sounds really cool."  In a whisper with sobs.  


 Oh she is so drama now that she will so do all you said without me prompting.  She already knows about the passport deal and such.  She hears how he trashes me and how her brothers do to.  She gets it and will play it up.



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What would happen to your house while you're gone? Sell it? Keep it vacant and ask someone to check it now and then? Get renters?

What about Sonny? Take him? Rehome him? Find someone to watch him for 2 years?

What if you love it and want it to be a permanent change?


 I think I would not rent the house out. I would have to come back twice a year, that is due to how the retirement works in Europe. They make all foreigners leave long enough to not be eligible for their benefits.  Sonny I am thinking would stay with a neighbor who really likes him, not sure, that is an issue.  And if I loved it, I could extend.  I actually am guessing that I will want to extend, or go back.



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Would he allow her to visit? If so, I would take the job and have her come visit you for the entire summer and Christmas Break.

While it would kill me to be away from my daughter, if I could work out a deal that would allow her to spend a good amount of time in Europe I'd take it.


 I won't go without her.



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However, if you really want to travel, then why not just travel? Why don't you and DD go on an overseas vacation?


 Because he refuses to sign a passport application for DD.  Hence how I know he not let her move oversees. 


Ugh, WTF.   



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I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
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Would he allow her to visit? If so, I would take the job and have her come visit you for the entire summer and Christmas Break.

While it would kill me to be away from my daughter, if I could work out a deal that would allow her to spend a good amount of time in Europe I'd take it.


 I won't go without her.


 Well, then that is it.  Just like you could not leave your daughter, neither can he.  



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Ilumine wrote:
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Would he allow her to visit? If so, I would take the job and have her come visit you for the entire summer and Christmas Break.

While it would kill me to be away from my daughter, if I could work out a deal that would allow her to spend a good amount of time in Europe I'd take it.


 I won't go without her.


 Well, then that is it.  Just like you could not leave your daughter, neither can he.  


Yeah, that's really not the issue.   He's doing this to make IKWTDS miserable.  He doesn't give on toot about his daughter...



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Congrats IKWTDS! It sounds like a wonderful experience. Hopefully when the offer comes back around again you will be in a position to accept.

I don't think I could move across town with only 1 month to get my shyt together. There is a lot that goes into moving.

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Would he allow her to visit? If so, I would take the job and have her come visit you for the entire summer and Christmas Break.

While it would kill me to be away from my daughter, if I could work out a deal that would allow her to spend a good amount of time in Europe I'd take it.


 I won't go without her.


 Well, then that is it.  Just like you could not leave your daughter, neither can he.  


Yeah, that's really not the issue.   He's doing this to make IKWTDS miserable.  He doesn't give one toot about his daughter...


...  which is a big reason why IKWTDS can't go and leave DD here.



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Personally, I would not be leaving the U.S. Too much turmoil in the world.

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