I probably won't get an answer to this - and I'd really prefer real answers over things like "they are stupid" or "they are sheeple" and the like.
But, HOW can Democrats ignore everything Hillary has done? How can they ignore her taking money for favors while Secretary of State. That's bribery, right? Total corruption?
Now, it looks like they used CHARITY money to pay for their daughter's wedding.
There are a whole lot of other issues - but how can anyone ignore these and vote for her to be president?
Is having a vagina that powerful this go round?
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
I found that a lot of people don't watch the news at all. One person I knew didn't even know who the vice president was. I wouldn't have believed it if I didn't hear it myself. Some people think causes like abortion should be protected at all cost.
Most I have seen, have certain lifestyles and ideals they need to maintain.
They don't really understand the roll of government.
They want to be taken care of.
And, yes, they are not well educated on the issues and see the world through PC glasses.
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A lot don't believe it is true. They just think it is slander made up by the GOP or Trumps people. Because she hasn't been convicted she didn't do it.
On the other board I'm on there is a poll going & about 80 people so far have "voted" & Hillary has at least 60% of the vote with the remaining 40% being split between a few others including write in vote.
They don't want to know the truth. They vote Democrat because they want to be part of something they view as momentous and exotic. So they vote based skin color or gender. Honestly, the real issues they just don't see as a priority
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They think Trump is so bad that it doesn't matter what Hillary does.
That's what it is for some of the people I know.
Others, I really don't know. I have such trepidation about this. How can people I know to be intelligent, rational, caring people, support such a monster? And how do I process the discrepancy?
They don't want to know the truth. They vote Democrat because they want to be part of something they view as momentous and exotic. So they vote based skin color or gender. Honestly, the real issues they just don't see as a priority
A lot don't believe it is true. They just think it is slander made up by the GOP or Trumps people. Because she hasn't been convicted she didn't do it.
On the other board I'm on there is a poll going & about 80 people so far have "voted" & Hillary has at least 60% of the vote with the remaining 40% being split between a few others including write in vote.
I think it is this too. They just don't believe it, or they don't give it any thought before responding back with "Well, Trump did XXXX!"
I don't think they believe it because she wasn't convicted. Hard to convict when your witnesses die off, but anyways....they just don't see that either. And Bill wasn't that bad as a President, so they figure she wouldn't be bad either.
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I don't see how people can vote for either candidate. Both will fck this country more than it already is. But you (general) keep on beliveing what you are being spoon fed about how horrible the other candidate is.
And the majority of the problems is not with the Presidency, it is Congress and the House. They are the ones who set the laws of this nation. Yet we keep electing the same people over and over and expecting change. These are the people who will not vote to raise minimum wage yet keep voting themselves raises. They have a golden medical plan and golden retirement plan. They want to cut Social Security and Medicare because of lack of funding. But heaven forbid you touch there golden plans. They would not know reality if it smacked them in the face. Yet we keep re-electing the same people. Set term limits for them too. Stop the golden plans.
And for goodness sake, keep religion out of government. This country was founded on the belief of Freedom from religion. God was not put on our money until 1864 (Civil War) or in our Pledge until Communism was a threat in the 50s. God Bless America was written during WWI and was recorded in 1938 by Kate Smith.
We cannot go backwards, we must move forward with changes in our country. We must work together as a country. Divided, we fall. No wonder this has turned into such a shjt show of an election.
-- Edited by jlbear71 on Monday 7th of November 2016 07:45:22 PM
-- Edited by jlbear71 on Monday 7th of November 2016 07:45:51 PM
I don't see how people can vote for either candidate. Both will fck this country more than it already is. But you (general) keep on beliveing what you are being spoon fed about how horrible the other candidate is.
And the majority of the problems is not with the Presidency, it is Congress and the House. They are the ones who set the laws of this nation. Yet we keep electing the same people over and over and expecting change. These are the people who will not vote to raise minimum wage yet keep voting themselves raises. They have a golden medical plan and golden retirement plan. They want to cut Social Security and Medicare because of lack of funding. But heaven forbid you touch there golden plans. They would not know reality if it smacked them in the face. Yet we keep re-electing the same people. Set term limits for them too. Stop the golden plans.
And for goodness sake, keep religion out of government. This country was founded on the belief of Freedom from religion. God was not put on our money until 1864 (Civil War) or in our Pledge until Communism was a threat in the 50s. God Bless America was written during WWI and was recorded in 1938 by Kate Smith.
We cannot go backwards, we must move forward with changes in our country. We must work together as a country. Divided, we fall. No wonder this has turned into such a shjt show of an election.
-- Edited by jlbear71 on Monday 7th of November 2016 07:45:22 PM
-- Edited by jlbear71 on Monday 7th of November 2016 07:45:51 PM
Most of the stuff you said I agree with, but the bolded? It's Freedom OF religion, not from it. Big difference.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Hillary Clinton is the epitome of everything wrong with this country. It's about lining her pockets. A public servant since leaving the White House and she has amassed a net worth of millions. How is that possible on a senator's salary?
When the government cares only about money and keeping their power, they must be stopped.
Donald Trump has his own money - which is one of the reasons I will vote for him over Hillary - he can't be bought.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Our country is in this shape because it has turned from God.
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It came out that our state department hired the guards for the embassy in Benghazi who had ties to terrorism and helped the terrorist. Even "if" she is innocent of all charges all evidence proves she makes horrid choices and is totally inept. If she fails to keep one small embassy safe how can she keep our country safe. She can't even pick honest people in her circle. Look at Kaine, he is a jerk and goofball. At least Trump picked Pence who is smart, decent and a good person.
Your are right, it should be Freedom of religion, my brain was going faster than my fingers. Meaning that we are not ruled by religion. There should be a separation of church and state.
Our country is in this shape because it has turned from God.
i am not trying to be argumentative but please tell me how God plays into our laws, Constitution and Bill of Rights. Tell me how our founding fathers wanted this to be a nation of God. They did not. And whose religion should they use?
First amendment is About the separation of church and state. The first part!
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Our country is in this shape because it has turned from God.
i am not trying to be argumentative but please tell me how God plays into our laws, Constitution and Bill of Rights. Tell me how our founding fathers wanted this to be a nation of God. They did not. And whose religion should they use?
First amendment is About the separation of church and state. The first part!
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
The first amendment is specifically about telling government to leave religion alone. Not the other way around.
You are very clearly wrong about history.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
Your are right, it should be Freedom of religion, my brain was going faster than my fingers. Meaning that we are not ruled by religion. There should be a separation of church and state.
The Democrats have been trying to cry that for years. The intent was that every man be able to live and vote his conscience according to his own beliefs. Not keep people's beliefs from guiding government. That is quite the new interpretation, as moral decay and decline have rotted our country.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
And one cannot seriously complain about corruption in government and vote for Hillary Clinton. She is the poster child for corruption.
Ever hear of the Emoluments Clause of the Constitution? No person holding public office shall accepts gifts or money from foreign governments. That's in the constitution. And she DID. She doesn't even deny it. Having it given to your spouse or your foundation is the same thing.
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I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you.
And who said I am voting for hillary? I know I sure did not say or write that anywhere including here. I have not even discussed that with DH. You are assuming things.
I'm sure some people feel she is the better option despite her many, many faults. It's looking like she will win tomorrow.
To be clear, I did not vote for her or Mr. Trump.
But I live in Texas. So what I think doesn't matter.
When are we going to get rid of the electoral college? Talk about corruption.
Most of the stuff you said I agree with, but the bolded? It's Freedom OF religion, not from it. Big difference.
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I agree that it's freedom OF religion. But also in the first amendment is freedom FROM religion in that it isn't to be used to govern. I see it as being from both sides, OF and FROM, at the same time.
I like that I can have my beliefs (freedom OF), and if Jews or Muslims or atheists or agnostics somehow overtake Congress, I can't be forced to follow the rules from their beliefs, or lack thereof. Just like we shouldn't be able to force them to follow ours (freedom FROM).
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. —
The first two paragraphs talk about God.
The founding fathers were not trying to separate God from government.
They were wanting to separate government from using their power to control everything, including religion.
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Notice how closely the reasons for leaving the sovereignty of Great Britain are to the government we have right now.
That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.
He has refused his Assent to Laws, the most wholesome and necessary for the public good.
He has forbidden his Governors to pass Laws of immediate and pressing importance, unless suspended in their operation till his Assent should be obtained; and when so suspended, he has utterly neglected to attend to them.
He has refused to pass other Laws for the accommodation of large districts of people, unless those people would relinquish the right of Representation in the Legislature, a right inestimable to them and formidable to tyrants only.
He has called together legislative bodies at places unusual, uncomfortable, and distant from the depository of their Public Records, for the sole purpose of fatiguing them into compliance with his measures.
He has dissolved Representative Houses repeatedly, for opposing with manly firmness his invasions on the rights of the people.
He has refused for a long time, after such dissolutions, to cause others to be elected, whereby the Legislative Powers, incapable of Annihilation, have returned to the People at large for their exercise; the State remaining in the mean time exposed to all the dangers of invasion from without, and convulsions within.
He has endeavoured to prevent the population of these States; for that purpose obstructing the Laws for Naturalization of Foreigners; refusing to pass others to encourage their migrations hither, and raising the conditions of new Appropriations of Lands.
He has obstructed the Administration of Justice by refusing his Assent to Laws for establishing Judiciary Powers.
He has made Judges dependent on his Will alone for the tenure of their offices, and the amount and payment of their salaries.
He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harass our people and eat out their substance.
He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.
He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power.
He has combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution, and unacknowledged by our laws; giving his Assent to their Acts of pretended Legislation:
For quartering large bodies of armed troops among us:
For protecting them, by a mock Trial from punishment for any Murders which they should commit on the Inhabitants of these States:
For cutting off our Trade with all parts of the world:
For imposing Taxes on us without our Consent:
For depriving us in many cases, of the benefit of Trial by Jury:
For transporting us beyond Seas to be tried for pretended offences:
For abolishing the free System of English Laws in a neighbouring Province, establishing therein an Arbitrary government, and enlarging its Boundaries so as to render it at once an example and fit instrument for introducing the same absolute rule into these Colonies
For taking away our Charters, abolishing our most valuable Laws and altering fundamentally the Forms of our Governments:
For suspending our own Legislatures, and declaring themselves invested with power to legislate for us in all cases whatsoever.
He has abdicated Government here, by declaring us out of his Protection and waging War against us.
He has plundered our seas, ravaged our coasts, burnt our towns, and destroyed the lives of our people.
He is at this time transporting large Armies of foreign Mercenaries to compleat the works of death, desolation, and tyranny, already begun with circumstances of Cruelty & Perfidy scarcely paralleled in the most barbarous ages, and totally unworthy the Head of a civilized nation.
He has constrained our fellow Citizens taken Captive on the high Seas to bear Arms against their Country, to become the executioners of their friends and Brethren, or to fall themselves by their Hands.
He has excited domestic insurrections amongst us, and has endeavoured to bring on the inhabitants of our frontiers, the merciless Indian Savages whose known rule of warfare, is an undistinguished destruction of all ages, sexes and conditions.
In every stage of these Oppressions We have Petitioned for Redress in the most humble terms: Our repeated Petitions have been answered only by repeated injury. A Prince, whose character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant, is unfit to be the ruler of a free people.
Nor have We been wanting in attentions to our British brethren. We have warned them from time to time of attempts by their legislature to extend an unwarrantable jurisdiction over us. We have reminded them of the circumstances of our emigration and settlement here. We have appealed to their native justice and magnanimity, and we have conjured them by the ties of our common kindred to disavow these usurpations, which would inevitably interrupt our connections and correspondence. They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War, in Peace Friends.
We, therefore, the Representatives of the united States of America, in General Congress, Assembled, appealing to the Supreme Judge of the world for the rectitude of our intentions, do, in the Name, and by Authority of the good People of these Colonies, solemnly publish and declare, That these united Colonies are, and of Right ought to be Free and Independent States, that they are Absolved from all Allegiance to the British Crown, and that all political connection between them and the State of Great Britain, is and ought to be totally dissolved; and that as Free and Independent States, they have full Power to levy War, conclude Peace, contract Alliances, establish Commerce, and to do all other Acts and Things which Independent States may of right do. — And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.
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