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So, how did Donald Trump write an executive order to build a wall.  Seems like he'd need some backing by Congress for that.

 

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The WALL law was passed during the Bush administration and supported by both Republicans and Democrats, including Obama and Hillary Clinton.  They just hadn't acted on it.  

 

 

Now, when Trump says Mexico will pay for it - it's not going to be Mexico writing a check, it will be based on taxation of Mexican products coming over the border, and possibly a tax on remittances back to Mexico. 



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Yep. I like it.

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I like the plan, too.

I like that his orders are encouraging the use of American made products.



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His executive orders on immigration have created 15,000 jobs, which should more than offset the hiring freeze on other federal jobs.

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I like the plan, too.

I like that his orders are encouraging the use of American made products.


 I do too. Especially since my plant makes some of those products! Yay!  



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I like the plan, too.

I like that his orders are encouraging the use of American made products.


 I do too. Especially since my plant makes some of those products! Yay!  


 YAY!



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I think he will hold back some aid to Mexico as well.

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Trump has done more in a week than Obama did in 8 years!

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Trump has done more in a week than Obama did in 8 years!


 He is a doer!



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Did you hear where the White House was dark the other night except for one light on and Fox News & Friends was on and talking about it and said "maybe he's watching us. Let's see if he flicks the light off and on" and sure enough, the light went off and on? Too funny. The man is a workaholic and a news junkie. He gathers facts big time.

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Did you hear where the White House was dark the other night except for one light on and Fox News & Friends was on and talking about it and said "maybe he's watching us. Let's see if he flicks the light off and on" and sure enough, the light went off and on? Too funny. The man is a workaholic and a news junkie. He gathers facts big time.


 He ONLY watches Fox News, though.

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you know, it's ironic. It was Hillary who wrote the legislation to build a better wall and Bill funded it. O defunded it about six years ago. The executive order was really just about funding.

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I won't lie, I still have very mixed feelings on an actual wall.

I believe it is necessary.

But I also wonder if it is the best idea.

I've said before, walls serve 2 purposes.

They keep things/people out.

But they also keep things/people in.

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lilyofcourse wrote:

I won't lie, I still have very mixed feelings on an actual wall.

I believe it is necessary.

But I also wonder if it is the best idea.

I've said before, walls serve 2 purposes.

They keep things/people out.

But they also keep things/people in.


 Walls make good neighbors.  When we no longer have conflict with Mexico and the people from South America that come through Mexico, then we can talk trade.  That is what Trump is doing.  It is so different from what we are used to our leaders doing, but I do believe it will work for us and Mexico.



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Like I said, necessary.

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Did you hear where the White House was dark the other night except for one light on and Fox News & Friends was on and talking about it and said "maybe he's watching us. Let's see if he flicks the light off and on" and sure enough, the light went off and on? Too funny. The man is a workaholic and a news junkie. He gathers facts big time.


 He ONLY watches Fox News, though.

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 That's so not true.  



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You all realize that this tariff he wants to place on Mexican made goods is paid by th le American people right?! Mexico doesn't pay that...we do. So WE are paying for the wall not Mexico.

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You all realize that this tariff he wants to place on Mexican made goods is paid by th le American people right?! Mexico doesn't pay that...we do. So WE are paying for the wall not Mexico.


 Yes we realize that tariffs are taxes passed on to the consumer.  However if it makes those product's prices noncompetitive then other sources will be found. 



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Trump is going to go hard on Trade. And, i believe prices will spike as a result. However, you can either take a longer view and understand that it will be make our country stronger to compete fairly, that business with come back and people will have jobs and businesses can thrive again. And, that in the long run, prices will come down and wages will go up. Or, we can all act like whiny babies when there is a little pain. I predict the latter of course by the libtards. They don't want jobs, they want govt checks without work.



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Trump is going to go hard on Trade. And, i believe prices will spike as a result. However, you can either take a longer view and understand that it will be make our country stronger to compete fairly, that business with come back and people will have jobs and businesses can thrive again. And, that in the long run, prices will come down and wages will go up. Or, we can all act like whiny babies when there is a little pain. I predict the latter of course by the libtards. They don't want jobs, they want govt checks without work.


 Yep, and I don't mind paying higher prices, but what goods are we talking about?  limes? Mangos? I see it more as an inconvenience.  Trump is taking a hard line and what this does is send a strong message to Mexico that they have cost us enough and we are stopping the drain on our resources.



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You all realize that this tariff he wants to place on Mexican made goods is paid by th le American people right?! Mexico doesn't pay that...we do. So WE are paying for the wall not Mexico.


 Yes we realize that tariffs are taxes passed on to the consumer.  However if it makes those product's prices noncompetitive then other sources will be found. 


 Not my point. He said Mexico would pay for the wall through tariffs on their goods. He didn't understand that those are paid by the consumer. They had to walk back their position hours later after it was announced.



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It will affect a lot more than that.

Parts for all kinds of things are manufactured overseas.

Cars, vacuums, computers, clothes, shoes.

That's one reason Trump put into the pipeline deals that parts be made in America.

But I'm good with the increase if it gets our economy growing again.

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I'm going to be sad that Mexican cokes and Jaritos increase in price, but I'll deal.

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It will affect a lot more than that.

Parts for all kinds of things are manufactured overseas.

Cars, vacuums, computers, clothes, shoes.

That's one reason Trump put into the pipeline deals that parts be made in America.

But I'm good with the increase if it gets our economy growing again.


 Ok so the tariff right now is on Mexico, not overseas.



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Well, yeah.

But a lot of our goods are manufactured, in part or whole, in Mexico.



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I got some readers, how long does it take before I don't get a headache or queasy when I use them?


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I heard the more you wear them, the quicker you'll get used to them. I have transitional ones, and I still get dizzy when I try to walk. I have an eye appt. Tuesday. I'm going to ask about contacts. I haven't tried them in over 20 years so hoping I might be able to use them now.

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I didn't have any issues when I started wearing reading glasses. Only thing was I had to remember to take them off when I got up to walk.

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Well, I thought I put this on the daily.

If a mod wants to move it, I'm fine with that.

Sorry for the trouble.



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Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
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Did you hear where the White House was dark the other night except for one light on and Fox News & Friends was on and talking about it and said "maybe he's watching us. Let's see if he flicks the light off and on" and sure enough, the light went off and on? Too funny. The man is a workaholic and a news junkie. He gathers facts big time.


 He ONLY watches Fox News, though.

flan


 That's so not true.  


 But he stated that himself in the interview DH and I saw.

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As long as he is reading Breitbart, no problem!

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flan327 wrote:
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flan327 wrote:
FNW wrote:

Did you hear where the White House was dark the other night except for one light on and Fox News & Friends was on and talking about it and said "maybe he's watching us. Let's see if he flicks the light off and on" and sure enough, the light went off and on? Too funny. The man is a workaholic and a news junkie. He gathers facts big time.


 He ONLY watches Fox News, though.

flan


 That's so not true.  


 But he stated that himself in the interview DH and I saw.

flan

 

 


 And when was that?  Because the man responds almost immediately when false news is reported.  



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flan327 wrote:
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Did you hear where the White House was dark the other night except for one light on and Fox News & Friends was on and talking about it and said "maybe he's watching us. Let's see if he flicks the light off and on" and sure enough, the light went off and on? Too funny. The man is a workaholic and a news junkie. He gathers facts big time.


 He ONLY watches Fox News, though.

flan


 That's so not true.  


 But he stated that himself in the interview DH and I saw.

flan

 

 


 And when was that?  Because the man responds almost immediately when false news is reported.  


 I really like how he recently responded to the fake news about him being a bigot and such that was being reported because of the temp ban on refugees..  LOL Trump does it for 90 days and the belly aching and lawsuits are all over the place, O did it for 6 months, crickets.



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Funny thing is that all these executive orders have parts of them that have to pass congress and the courts. The courts have already struck down the current chaos that is being caused in the US. Chaos and effectiveness are two very different things.

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Funny thing is that all these executive orders have parts of them that have to pass congress and the courts. The courts have already struck down the current chaos that is being caused in the US. Chaos and effectiveness are two very different things.


 No the court did not strike it down, what they said was a small portion of it was unconstitutional the part where those US residents with visas and green cards shouldn't have to go through a more stringent security procedure when re entering the US.



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And that is exactly how the whole system was designed to work.



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You know what one liberal said when I pointed out the Obama thing? "I'm looking forward. What Obama did doesn't matter."

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You know what one liberal said when I pointed out the Obama thing? "I'm looking forward. What Obama did doesn't matter."


 Yes I heard that too.



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flan327 wrote:
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Did you hear where the White House was dark the other night except for one light on and Fox News & Friends was on and talking about it and said "maybe he's watching us. Let's see if he flicks the light off and on" and sure enough, the light went off and on? Too funny. The man is a workaholic and a news junkie. He gathers facts big time.


 He ONLY watches Fox News, though.

flan


 That's so not true.  


 But he stated that himself in the interview DH and I saw.

flan

 

 


 And when was that?  Because the man responds almost immediately when false news is reported.  


 Last week. DH and I were watching the evening news & Trump plainly stated that.

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Doesn't make much of a difference but the White House lights were video effects.

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FNW wrote:

Did you hear where the White House was dark the other night except for one light on and Fox News & Friends was on and talking about it and said "maybe he's watching us. Let's see if he flicks the light off and on" and sure enough, the light went off and on? Too funny. The man is a workaholic and a news junkie. He gathers facts big time.


 He ONLY watches Fox News, though.

flan


 That's so not true.  


 But he stated that himself in the interview DH and I saw.

flan

 

 


 And when was that?  Because the man responds almost immediately when false news is reported.  


 Last week. DH and I were watching the evening news & Trump plainly stated that.

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Me thinks you were hallucinating.   Provide a link.  If it were true, it would be all over the place.  nada...nothing...



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Did you hear where the White House was dark the other night except for one light on and Fox News & Friends was on and talking about it and said "maybe he's watching us. Let's see if he flicks the light off and on" and sure enough, the light went off and on? Too funny. The man is a workaholic and a news junkie. He gathers facts big time.


 He ONLY watches Fox News, though.

flan


 That's so not true.  


 But he stated that himself in the interview DH and I saw.

flan

 

 


 And when was that?  Because the man responds almost immediately when false news is reported.  


 I really like how he recently responded to the fake news about him being a bigot and such that was being reported because of the temp ban on refugees..  LOL Trump does it for 90 days and the belly aching and lawsuits are all over the place, O did it for 6 months, crickets.


 I am not addressing the bigot comments but the differences between the two as I see it are:

 

Obama applied the ban to refugees from one country because of a specific threat of terrorist found in the US from that country.

If I am reading it correctly Trump has suspended the processing of visas for refugees for all countries for 120 days.  Also an indefinite stop for Syria.

 

Obama required visas for people that visited or had dual citizenship of the 7 countries of concern.  Trump has placed a 90 day ban on those countries.

 



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Obama did NOTHING about the issue of terrorism. Wouldn't even admit when something was a terrorist attack.

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Obama did NOTHING about the issue of terrorism. Wouldn't even admit when something was a terrorist attack.


Workplace violence was his pathetic go-to result.  He's a Muslim sympathizer.  He said so himself.  We are blessed we made it through his terms...



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And DH was hallucinating as well?

I should have known better than to open this thread.

Carry on!

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And DH was hallucinating as well?

I should have known better than to open this thread.

Carry on!

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I've been checking the White House website where executive orders are posted as well as all statements, and I have yet to see where he has banned muslims. He did make a statement on FB that he wants to help Christian Syrians, because they are refugees. And he said on FB that people coming in from the 7 countries will be detained temporarily until they can be vetted. Extreme vetting I believe is his wording. But he has not issued any new laws, this was a law that O made several years ago, and T is just enforcing it again. He did not chose the countries, O did.

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Yes, I've been reading the executive orders themselves. So far, he has relied on laws already in place. Unlike Obama, he hasn't attempted to MAKE law through executive orders, but simply to enforce it.

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