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NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- A Metro Nashville police officer died Thursday after slipping into the swift currents of the Cumberland River while trying to get a suicidal woman out of a car that was quickly heading into the bitterly cold water, Tennessee officials said Thursday.

The Metro Nashville Police Department confirmed “with heavy hearts” in a tweet around 8 a.m. that a fire department diver found the body of 44-year-old Eric Mumaw. Police said Mumaw was an 18-year veteran of the department, “who gave his life this morning in service to Nashville.”

 

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This is horrible.

I hope the woman is charged and prosecuted for his death



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Last night, Nashville was lit up in blue to honor his service.

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Just got a news alert that the woman will be charged in the officer's death.

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I hope she's charged, although she might be found incompetent to stand trial.

RIP, brave hero.

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Divine Geek wrote:

Just got a news alert that the woman will be charged in the officer's death.


 Good.

It's her fault.

 



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I'm praying for his family. He was their hero first.



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I'm going to be the lone dissenter on this...the woman was mentally ill. She had a history of unsuccessful yet legitimate suicide attempts. Her family had been trying to get her committed for a long time. Now she will be in jail where she may get the help she needs, but will be locked up.

I don't know....but we HAVE to do something to help mentally ill people. This is a direct result of the lack of resources families have.

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I'm going to be the lone dissenter on this...the woman was mentally ill. She had a history of unsuccessful yet legitimate suicide attempts. Her family had been trying to get her committed for a long time. Now she will be in jail where she may get the help she needs, but will be locked up.

I don't know....but we HAVE to do something to help mentally ill people. This is a direct result of the lack of resources families have.


 By charging her, she will get help.  I do agree that something has to be done to help families deal with members that are mentally ill.  I know too many people who spend a lot of time and money trying to get help for their family members but the whole HIPPA thing and lack of facilities is detrimental.



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Ohfour wrote:

I'm going to be the lone dissenter on this...the woman was mentally ill. She had a history of unsuccessful yet legitimate suicide attempts. Her family had been trying to get her committed for a long time. Now she will be in jail where she may get the help she needs, but will be locked up.

I don't know....but we HAVE to do something to help mentally ill people. This is a direct result of the lack of resources families have.


 I agree with you O4. Mental health services are nearly impossible to receive. cry



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Ohfour wrote:

I'm going to be the lone dissenter on this...the woman was mentally ill. She had a history of unsuccessful yet legitimate suicide attempts. Her family had been trying to get her committed for a long time. Now she will be in jail where she may get the help she needs, but will be locked up.

I don't know....but we HAVE to do something to help mentally ill people. This is a direct result of the lack of resources families have.


  I agree with you and IKWTD. She is obviously mentally Ill and maybe now she will get the help she need. It is disgraceful that a tragedy has to happen before anything can be done.



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I don't think she should be charged, I think she should be committed. Unfortunately, our system makes that near impossible unless you are guilty of a crime. And, the man was a hero, yes, but nobody forced him into that water. He needed to determine if it was safe to help. And as a police officer, you risk your life every day for people who don't really appreciate it, or sometimes deserve it.



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I don't think she should be charged, I think she should be committed. Unfortunately, our system makes that near impossible unless you are guilty of a crime. And, the man was a hero, yes, but nobody forced him into that water. He needed to determine if it was safe to help. And as a police officer, you risk your life every day for people who don't really appreciate it, or sometimes deserve it.


 But that is what first responders do.  They act in a dangerous situation to keep us safe.



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If your actions cause the death of another, it shouldn't go unpunished in some way.



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If your actions cause the death of another, it shouldn't go unpunished in some way.


 That's quite a slippery slope you are creating there.  Many accidental deaths are caused by the carelessness of another person or not thinking about another person.  Maybe someone spills a drink near a stairway and someone comes along and slips and falls down the stairs breaking their neck.  Is the spiller guilty of involuntary manslaughter?  

 

There are civil remedies available.  Not everything that is someone's "fault" is criminal.  



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whether she was mentally ill or not is immaterial--do as you like with her--this was a man that thought only of saving an innocent person--bless him



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Lawyerlady wrote:

I don't think she should be charged, I think she should be committed. Unfortunately, our system makes that near impossible unless you are guilty of a crime. And, the man was a hero, yes, but nobody forced him into that water. He needed to determine if it was safe to help. And as a police officer, you risk your life every day for people who don't really appreciate it, or sometimes deserve it.


 But that is what first responders do.  They act in a dangerous situation to keep us safe.


 With protocols in place.  How did he get swept away?  Where was his harness, his back-up?  



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whether she was mentally ill or not is immaterial--do as you like with her--this was a man that thought only of saving an innocent person--bless him


I do not disagree with this.  And although I did not know him, I have many friends in the NPD that have known him a very long time.

I am not trying to take anything away from him.  He was brave and honorable and deserves all the respect that has been given.

I just think this incident shows the poor condition of our mental health system.  THAT is what failed this policeman. 



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I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:

I don't think she should be charged, I think she should be committed. Unfortunately, our system makes that near impossible unless you are guilty of a crime. And, the man was a hero, yes, but nobody forced him into that water. He needed to determine if it was safe to help. And as a police officer, you risk your life every day for people who don't really appreciate it, or sometimes deserve it.


 But that is what first responders do.  They act in a dangerous situation to keep us safe.


 With protocols in place.  How did he get swept away?  Where was his harness, his back-up?  


 He had to act quickly.  All he knew is there was a car in the water that was sinking and there was someone in that car.  Had he waited for backup she would have died.  He slipped, probably on a rock, and was swept away, the current was very swift per the article.



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I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:

I don't think she should be charged, I think she should be committed. Unfortunately, our system makes that near impossible unless you are guilty of a crime. And, the man was a hero, yes, but nobody forced him into that water. He needed to determine if it was safe to help. And as a police officer, you risk your life every day for people who don't really appreciate it, or sometimes deserve it.


 But that is what first responders do.  They act in a dangerous situation to keep us safe.


 With protocols in place.  How did he get swept away?  Where was his harness, his back-up?  


 He had to act quickly.  All he knew is there was a car in the water that was sinking and there was someone in that car.  Had he waited for backup she would have died.  He slipped, probably on a rock, and was swept away, the current was very swift per the article.


 Which was HIS choice.  He chose to risk his life for her.  



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There is a difference in an accident, slipping in a spill, and drowning trying keep someone from killing them self.

The first is an accident, the second is a calculated move that results in another's death.

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Lawyerlady wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:

I don't think she should be charged, I think she should be committed. Unfortunately, our system makes that near impossible unless you are guilty of a crime. And, the man was a hero, yes, but nobody forced him into that water. He needed to determine if it was safe to help. And as a police officer, you risk your life every day for people who don't really appreciate it, or sometimes deserve it.


 But that is what first responders do.  They act in a dangerous situation to keep us safe.


 With protocols in place.  How did he get swept away?  Where was his harness, his back-up?  


 Huh?  Harness?  This was a split second act try to save someone.



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This is sad news, all around. He gave his life trying to help another. That makes him a hero.

I hope the woman can get the help she needs, even if that means she has to be charged with a crime to do so.

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