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Some churches will be distributing "glitter ashes" on Ash Wednesday to show a "progressive Christian witness" in support and solidarity with LGBTQ members of the faith. Normally, the ashes distributed on Ash Wednesday are made from burning the palms distributed on Palm Sunday the year before, but the organization parity is selling ashes that have been pre-mixed with purple glitter to various faith communities.

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The website for glitter ashes describes glitter as a "sign of hope" and "signals our promise to repent, to show up, to witness, to work." It says that the presence of glitter ashes will "breathe fresh life" into liturgy.

This, of course, isn't the point of Ash Wednesday. Ash Wednesday is not about a person as an individual. It is not about making statements, or showing support, or any of that. It's a day of confronting one's own mortality, being reminded to repent, and to prepare oneself for Lent and Easter. There's hardly a more humbling phrase than "Remember that you are dust, and to dust you shall return." We are all dust, regardless of our sexual orientations. An ash cross is not supposed to be a billboard for virtue signaling--there's no requirement to even keep them on one's forehead after receiving. (And in Europe, ashes are merely sprinkled over someone, not applied to the forehead.) This "glitter ash" movement is attempting to hijack a religious observance and twist it for one's own causes. That is not appropriate.

 

Ash Wednesday is a beautiful observance, when treated properly and done with respect and reverence for what is being commemorated. (You're not off the hook either, ashes-to-go stations.) This is none of that. As Christians, we should be treating all LGBT people with respect for their inherent human dignity--but that doesn't mean we should be changing millennia-old tradition, either.



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This is just wrong, period.



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Oh my gosh.

Nope. This is just wrong, IMHO.



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I trust they had the forethought to burn glitter palms last year.....

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Two of the priests from my church are going to downtown
(city) in their full vestments (white albs, purple stoles),
offering ashes to anyone they meet. This is a first. We'll
see how it goes. We will also have another person along,
taking photos. (He'll ask if it is okay to take a person's
photo first). If this is well received, we'll see about doing
it every year.



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I thought this was only a Catholic thing. Where I grew up the Catholic kids showed up at school on Ash Wednesday with the mark on their forehead. Or is it practiced by more churches now?

Not sure why priests would have to go out and try to recruit people for this. Again, I thought it was a sign of your belief....

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Going out into the street isn't an effort to recruit.

It's actually following the commandment to go out into all the land sharing the gospel.



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Should we mix some menstrual blood in for the vagina voters too? You don't have to desecrate the sacraments to reach people.

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Ewww..... that's just gross!

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The Gospel is for everyone. The love of Christ is for everyone. We don't have to spray glitter on the Church. We don't have to pretend Mary was a feminist. We dont' have to pretend an Apostle was gay. We don't have to do any of that. Christ loves YOU. He will meet YOU where you are.

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

The Gospel is for everyone. The love of Christ is for everyone. We don't have to spray glitter on the Church. We don't have to pretend Mary was a feminist. We dont' have to pretend an Apostle was gay. We don't have to do any of that. Christ loves YOU. He will meet YOU where you are.

  He always meet us where we are and commands us to follow  him and turn away from our sins.



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We recognized that many people lead such hectic lives that
often their own personal agenda gets pushed aside (such as
going to Church at a specified time to receive ashes). Our
town is small enough that most of the members of our church
know most of the members of all the other churches in (city),
and we have a wonderful inter-faith spirit of cooperation. One
of the smaller churches is struggling financially, so last week we,
as an entire congregation, visited this church on Sunday, to swell
their attendance (and increase their offertory plate!). Obituary
notices for a community member are posted on all the church
bulletins, so friends from all churches are notified.

We love to spread the good news!




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WWJD?

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Are u going to presume to tell us?

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He would love them, forgive them, and tell them to sin no more. He would not be wearing glitter in support of their sin.



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Oh i am sure flan is now going to tell us otherwise!

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ummm that is NOT the place for glitter IMHO

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Jesus would say, "You are the way I made you. I love you."

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I'll take Jesus at his word - it's pretty clear in the Bible.

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if the almighty wants to tolerate " progressives " then by all means of course--personally, will never be a " progressive " christian



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The almighty "tolerates" and loves everyone. But tolerance and support are two very different things.

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flan327 wrote:

Jesus would say, "You are the way I made you. I love you."

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And.....He would not CONDONE Sin.  



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Riding wrote:

ummm that is NOT the place for glitter IMHO

 Speaking of places glitter doesn't belong, have you seen the bath balls with glitter?

Cause sitting naked in glitter is a stellar idea.

 

You know, until the you piss fire for the first time.



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
flan327 wrote:

Jesus would say, "You are the way I made you. I love you."

flan

And.....He would not CONDONE Sin.  

 He rescued a woman from being stoned and not only told her has forgiven her but to go and sin no more.



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Jesus would say, "You are the way I made you. I love you."

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 Yes.  He loves us the way he made us.  However, He would not condone me having an affair, beating my child or committing any other sins.  Sexual sin is sin.  No matter how you wanna slice it.



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Lindley wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
flan327 wrote:

Jesus would say, "You are the way I made you. I love you."

flan

And.....He would not CONDONE Sin.  

 He rescued a woman from being stoned and not only told her has forgiven her but to go and sin no more.

That is the important part - he never said "what you did is ok and go ahead and keep doing it."  Many people ignore that the beginning of this passage was as a challenge to Jesus, to test him.  



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Lawyerlady wrote:
Lindley wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
flan327 wrote:

Jesus would say, "You are the way I made you. I love you."

flan

And.....He would not CONDONE Sin.  

 He rescued a woman from being stoned and not only told her has forgiven her but to go and sin no more.

That is the important part - he never said "what you did is ok and go ahead and keep doing it."  Many people ignore that the beginning of this passage was as a challenge to Jesus, to test him.  

 Even I, as someone struggling with structured religion, knows this and takes it to heart. You sin, confess it so you know it is real and do better.



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To quote the animated character "Bit" from the movie "Tron": "No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No..." as I fade off out of the massive fail that is the thought of sparkly ashes for Ash Wednesday.

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He would love them, forgive them, and tell them to sin no more. He would not be wearing glitter in support of their sin.

 This.  

 

I see this as an attempt to fill the church pews. Sad really.



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The point of the ashes is to begin contrition, right?

So that atonement can be granted.

I know in the Bible, applying ashes and donning sackcloth is a way to humble yourself.

How can you show sorrow and regret if you are sparkling?

Wouldn't glitter in the ashes be, I don't know, blasphemy?



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yeah. It would be. However they are trying to be inclusive and accommodating...

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Inclusive and accommodating is great.

But being blaphemists is not going to help anyone.

It's actually defeating the whole point.



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Idiots...the lot of them.

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Agree. Totally. They are trying so hard to be open minded that their brains are leaking out and they are stomping on real doctrine.

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