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I think Pence is using common sense. We had two people worked for us who was married to other people and ended up having a affair with each other. They got close while working with each other and obviously they got to close. Both of them ended up in divorce. I was talking to a friend who works in a school where two parents ended up in a affair with each other. Started innocently enough when they got to know each other while watching their kids play after school while waiting for a older child who was in a club.

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Basic biology means that there will often be attraction between men and women who spend a lot of time in close proximity. Political correctness doesn't change that.

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Basic biology means that there will often be attraction between men and women who spend a lot of time in close proximity. Political correctness doesn't change that.


Right?  Like it's unheard of that co-workers have affairs... 



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Basic biology means that there will often be attraction between men and women who spend a lot of time in close proximity. Political correctness doesn't change that.


Right?  Like it's unheard of that co-workers have affairs... 


 How many times a day can you mention that?

It's gotten funny, actually.

Oh, and we were NEVER alone. There were always staff & patrons around.

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Lawyerlady wrote:

Basic biology means that there will often be attraction between men and women who spend a lot of time in close proximity. Political correctness doesn't change that.


Right?  Like it's unheard of that co-workers have affairs... 


 How many times a day can you mention that?

It's gotten funny, actually.

Oh, and we were NEVER alone. There were always staff & patrons around.

flan


I actually wasn't talking about you, I was talking in general, but hey, if you want to take it that way...

So, when you were sleeping with your then BF, there were staff and patrons around? EWWW!

I call shenanigans... 



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Oh, FFS, BEFORE anything happened...

MY POINT is that a man and woman don't HAVE to be ALONE together to fall in love.

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Oh, FFS, BEFORE anything happened...

MY POINT is that a man and woman don't HAVE to be ALONE together to fall in love.

flan


But, there came a point when you weren't alone.  And if you had never BEEN left alone, then you wouldn't have consummated the relationship. And I don't believe for one minute that you fell in love while all those people were hanging around.   



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Oh, FFS, BEFORE anything happened...

MY POINT is that a man and woman don't HAVE to be ALONE together to fall in love.

flan


But, there came a point when you weren't alone.  And if you had never BEEN left alone, then you wouldn't have consummated the relationship. And I don't believe for one minute that you fell in love while all those people were hanging around.   


 What a surprise!

Ohfour called me a  liar again. He was my boss, we became friends very gradually. During those years, I was a single parent, I was a librarian, but nothing else. There was no time.

And just because it didn't happen that way to YOU doesn't mean it didn't happen that way to ME.

I don't know why I even bother...

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How can you say you agree it's his choice then turn around and say what he should do?.
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It's the difference between "should" and "must". You do know the difference between the two, right? I'm not saying he has to do anything. He should treat women and men equally. He's free to be a complete ass that believes that women don't deserve equality if he wants to, or he can be a gentleman that sees women as equals to men. Freedom to choose.

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You cannot be serious. First of all, males tend to bond with males and vice versa. They socialize more - golf, etc. Women do it, too. I spend much more time with female co-workers because we have more in common. People are allowed to socialize and choose FRIENDS they want to dine with all they want.
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Agreed. People are allowed to socialize and choose their friends. Public servants are not allowed to choose who they will work with based on sex though. And as long as he keeps socializing to exactly that, and limits this segregation by gender to only non-work, then it's perfectly acceptable. Problem is he's already proven that he won't do that.

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How can you say you agree it's his choice then turn around and say what he should do?.
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It's the difference between "should" and "must". You do know the difference between the two, right? I'm not saying he has to do anything. He should treat women and men equally. He's free to be a complete ass that believes that women don't deserve equality if he wants to, or he can be a gentleman that sees women as equals to men. Freedom to choose.


 Obviously it's YOU who doesn't know the difference between "should" and "must". Who the flip cares what YOU think Pence "should" or "must" do in his own freaking marriage. I and many others consider him a gentleman for doing exactly what he's doing and your opinion is just that, an opinion.



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So public servants give up all rights to their private lives? Do you think anyone would ever run for office if that was really true? Please cite some law or precedent that corroborates this ridiculous argument.

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This has crossed over into the realm of the absurd.

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This is the lamest NONSTORY i have ever heard. But, you should see them going APESCHIT all over the internet! LOL!

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I hope they lie awake at night for the next 4 years obsessing over this!

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Can no one see how this benefits the woman, just as much, as Pence?

It protects HER as well.

She doesn't get the rumors either.



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They don't care Lilly. They just wanna whine.

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Can no one see how this benefits the woman, just as much, as Pence?

It protects HER as well.

She doesn't get the rumors either.


 Look! There is a member of Congress meeting with the VP in a PUBLIC restaurant and talking POLITICS.

The horror! no

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The horror is the fact that even though there is absolutely nothing going on between them She or someone who sees them together can say or insinuate anything they want to. It has and will continue to happen. He is protecting himself from those (like you) who always want to believe the worst about someone THEY don't like.

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Bingo!!!!!!!!!

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Well, so far, no women has come forward and claimed she was denied equal access and equal treatment. So there's that.

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People too often forget the basic order of priority in life - God first, then family, then country.

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FNW wrote:

Well, so far, no women has come forward and claimed she was denied equal access and equal treatment. So there's that.


EXACTLY.  So it's a non-issue.  He's been a public servant for YEARS.  It hasn't been an issue until the lib got their panties in a wad because he's taking the moral high ground. 



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I'm going to venture a guess here but it seems to me the women who have not been faithful, in their or someone else's marriage, are the ones who are screaming this is not fair that Pence has made a decision to NOT dine with a woman alone in a restaurant for the sake of his career, which hasn't been hurt at all by this, and for his marriage.

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I do what's best for MY marriage as does VP Pence obviously. If this wouldn't work for YOUR marriage then don't do it but don't expect everyone else to do what you do. Some people don't honor theirs or anyone else marriage so it makes them feel better to whine when some one does.

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Forever Sunshine wrote:

I'm going to venture a guess here but it seems to me the women who have not been faithful, in their or someone else's marriage, are the ones who are screaming this is not fair that Pence has made a decision to NOT dine with a woman alone in a restaurant for the sake of his career, which hasn't been hurt at all by this, and for his marriage.


 Good catch.



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Damn straight. Please look at the title of the thread - it is PENCE'S marriage, and he doesn't have to justify morality to the immoral.

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I'm going to venture a guess here but it seems to me the women who have not been faithful, in their or someone else's marriage, are the ones who are screaming this is not fair that Pence has made a decision to NOT dine with a woman alone in a restaurant for the sake of his career, which hasn't been hurt at all by this, and for his marriage.


 Good catch.


 Yep.  And seem to be comfortable with hazy boundaries. 

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Forever Sunshine wrote:

I'm going to venture a guess here but it seems to me the women who have not been faithful, in their or someone else's marriage, are the ones who are screaming this is not fair that Pence has made a decision to NOT dine with a woman alone in a restaurant for the sake of his career, which hasn't been hurt at all by this, and for his marriage.


 Wrong again.

MM3 has plenty of people who question his decision, as does that board you left.

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flan327 wrote:
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I'm going to venture a guess here but it seems to me the women who have not been faithful, in their or someone else's marriage, are the ones who are screaming this is not fair that Pence has made a decision to NOT dine with a woman alone in a restaurant for the sake of his career, which hasn't been hurt at all by this, and for his marriage.


 Wrong again.

MM3 has plenty of people who question his decision, as does that board you left.

flan


Proving the point.  The most immoral people I've even come across. 



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None of the women who worked for him question his decision. Their opinion matters more, IMO.

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Regardless whether he dines alone with a female or not is a non issue. As vice President he will most likely never be dining alone with anyone.
I can guess that those talking about it on other boards are only making a big deal about it because they don't like him because he is republican.

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Bingo, Lindley. And because they look for inequality under every stone.

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Regardless whether he dines alone with a female or not is a non issue. As vice President he will most likely never be dining alone with anyone.
I can guess that those talking about it on other boards are only making a big deal about it because they don't like him because he is republican.


 Right?  Geez such a fuss over a non issue



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Well it makes them feel superior.

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FNW wrote:

None of the women who worked for him question his decision. Their opinion matters more, IMO.


 In Indiana, no woman would stand a chance opposing Pence.

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Ohfour wrote:
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I'm going to venture a guess here but it seems to me the women who have not been faithful, in their or someone else's marriage, are the ones who are screaming this is not fair that Pence has made a decision to NOT dine with a woman alone in a restaurant for the sake of his career, which hasn't been hurt at all by this, and for his marriage.


 Wrong again.

MM3 has plenty of people who question his decision, as does that board you left.

flan


Proving the point.  The most immoral people I've even come across. 


 Your moral superiority is hilarious.

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Why?

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Your immoral superiority is even funnier.

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FNW wrote:

Why?


 Because if you TRUST your S/O around members of the opposite sex, it doesn't make you "immoral."

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flan327 wrote:
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I'm going to venture a guess here but it seems to me the women who have not been faithful, in their or someone else's marriage, are the ones who are screaming this is not fair that Pence has made a decision to NOT dine with a woman alone in a restaurant for the sake of his career, which hasn't been hurt at all by this, and for his marriage.


 Wrong again.

MM3 has plenty of people who question his decision, as does that board you left.

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 LOL!  Like that is convincing in the least.



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flan327 wrote:
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None of the women who worked for him question his decision. Their opinion matters more, IMO.


 In Indiana, no woman would stand a chance opposing Pence.

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 Pence is a very good guy.  If the worst you can come up with is that he honors God and his wife, it's no wonder no one stands a chance against him.  

And you must live in a very backward part of the state if they won't elect women.  Maybe the problem is they won't elect LIBERAL women.  



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None of the women who worked for him question his decision. Their opinion matters more, IMO.


 In Indiana, no woman would stand a chance opposing Pence.

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 Pence is a very good guy.  If the worst you can come up with is that he honors God and his wife, it's no wonder no one stands a chance against him.  

And you must live in a very backward part of the state if they won't elect women.  Maybe the problem is they won't elect LIBERAL women.  


 He may be "good," but he's not good for women's rights.

Indiana has ALWAYS been Conservative. Indianapolis is one of the more LIBERAL cities, but we're outnumbered.

I was responding to FNW's post, which was NOT about electing a woman, it was about a woman questioning his decision.

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Lawyerlady wrote:
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I'm going to venture a guess here but it seems to me the women who have not been faithful, in their or someone else's marriage, are the ones who are screaming this is not fair that Pence has made a decision to NOT dine with a woman alone in a restaurant for the sake of his career, which hasn't been hurt at all by this, and for his marriage.


 Wrong again.

MM3 has plenty of people who question his decision, as does that board you left.

flan


 LOL!  Like that is convincing in the least.


 I was responding to FS's dig.

Everyone on BOTH the boards in question fits her "theory?"

Riiiiight.

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flan327 wrote:
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None of the women who worked for him question his decision. Their opinion matters more, IMO.


 In Indiana, no woman would stand a chance opposing Pence.

flan


 Pence is a very good guy.  If the worst you can come up with is that he honors God and his wife, it's no wonder no one stands a chance against him.  

And you must live in a very backward part of the state if they won't elect women.  Maybe the problem is they won't elect LIBERAL women.  


 He may be "good," but he's not good for women's rights.

Indiana has ALWAYS been Conservative. Indianapolis is one of the more LIBERAL cities, but we're outnumbered.

I was responding to FNW's post, which was NOT about electing a woman, it was about a woman questioning his decision.

flan


 Why is he not good for women's rights?  Because he doesn't think killing unborn children is a "right"?



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Lawyerlady wrote:
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None of the women who worked for him question his decision. Their opinion matters more, IMO.


 In Indiana, no woman would stand a chance opposing Pence.

flan


 Pence is a very good guy.  If the worst you can come up with is that he honors God and his wife, it's no wonder no one stands a chance against him.  

And you must live in a very backward part of the state if they won't elect women.  Maybe the problem is they won't elect LIBERAL women.  


 He may be "good," but he's not good for women's rights.

Indiana has ALWAYS been Conservative. Indianapolis is one of the more LIBERAL cities, but we're outnumbered.

I was responding to FNW's post, which was NOT about electing a woman, it was about a woman questioning his decision.

flan


 Why is he not good for women's rights?  Because he doesn't think killing unborn children is a "right"?


And he treats his wife well.  That's just horrid, you know... 



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Ohfour wrote:
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flan327 wrote:
FNW wrote:

None of the women who worked for him question his decision. Their opinion matters more, IMO.


 In Indiana, no woman would stand a chance opposing Pence.

flan


 Pence is a very good guy.  If the worst you can come up with is that he honors God and his wife, it's no wonder no one stands a chance against him.  

And you must live in a very backward part of the state if they won't elect women.  Maybe the problem is they won't elect LIBERAL women.  


 He may be "good," but he's not good for women's rights.

Indiana has ALWAYS been Conservative. Indianapolis is one of the more LIBERAL cities, but we're outnumbered.

I was responding to FNW's post, which was NOT about electing a woman, it was about a woman questioning his decision.

flan


 Why is he not good for women's rights?  Because he doesn't think killing unborn children is a "right"?


And he treats his wife well.  That's just horrid, you know... 


 What about the women he's NOT married to?

Did I EVER say it was "horrid?"

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Well, I certainly HOPE he doesn't treat other women the same was he treats his wife!

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Regardless, he was only talking about himself and his marriage. He wasn't saying nobody else should do it either he was only talking about himself. This shouldn't even be a issue.

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Pence, by honoring his wife, is in fact showing honor for all women.

That should be enough.

Sand wedger's think otherwise..

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