TOTALLY GEEKED!

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

RE: Pence's Marriage

Forever Sunshine · Guru

flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Forever Sunshine wrote:
I'm going to venture a guess here but it seems to me the women who have not been faithful, in their or someone else's marriage, are the ones who are screaming this is not fair that Pence has made a decision to NOT dine with a woman alone in a restaurant for the sake of his career, which hasn't been hurt at all by this, and for his marriage.
Wrong again.
MM3 has plenty of people who question his decision, as does that board you left.
flan
Proving the point. The most immoral people I've even come across.
Your moral superiority is hilarious.
flan

And your LACK of it isn't.

chef · Guru

Thing is, no matter what any elected official does, someone is going to raise a fuss about whatever action.

Pence wants to protect himself from any hint of impropriety and guard against baseless accusations and he gets blasted for it. Yet, if he were to dine alone with a woman other than his wife and someone saw it and made a story of it, he'd be blasted for not watching what he does and told he should've known better. He can't win.

FNW · Guru

"I trust my husband" said the estranged wife of the man who "fell in love" with his co-worker after spending a lot of time with her over the years.

Sure, you can fall in love if you spend copious amounts of time with someone. Which is why married men shouldn't do that. Alone or otherwise.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

So, anyone that you spend "copious amounts of time with" means that you will fall in love?

How ludicrous.

flan

FNW · Guru

Isn't that what happened with you and your husband?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

FNW wrote:
Isn't that what happened with you and your husband?

I spend time with LOTS of people without falling in love.

And, as I have stated before, we were NOT alone for almost 4 years.

Try again.

flan

FNW · Guru

But you spent a lot of time with him for 4 years, right?

Tinydancer · Guru

flan you should just own it. Pretending to be some innocent bystander is laughable. You do see how just talking to someone can lead people astray I'm sure.

FNW · Guru

Exactly, TD. Which is why committed people do not put themselves in situations....

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Oh noes! I can't talk to anyone ever.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

FNW wrote:
But you spent a lot of time with him for 4 years, right?

I spent time working with the branch staff of 15 employees, yes, but I ate my lunches alone.

flan

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

FNW wrote:
Isn't that what happened with you and your husband?

I get most of you know the story I may have skipped over it. But if Flan was involved in an affair with a married man, perhaps she should step out of this convo.

msrock · Guru

I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
FNW wrote:
Isn't that what happened with you and your husband?
I get most of you know the story I may have skipped over it. But if Flan was involved in an affair with a married man, perhaps she should step out of this convo.

Really?? Like you didn't know that? lol! I know it and I don't even know anything. I guess you all enjoy this... All of you enjoy this. Boredom? IDK. Time to contemplate your own life. I honestly don't know what Flan is getting out of posting here any more but its got to be something. People just don't do this unless there's a reason. I hate it and I love it at the same time. It's fascinating really. confuse

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

msrock wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
FNW wrote:
Isn't that what happened with you and your husband?
I get most of you know the story I may have skipped over it. But if Flan was involved in an affair with a married man, perhaps she should step out of this convo.
Really?? Like you didn't know that? lol! I know it and I don't even know anything. I guess you all enjoy this... All of you enjoy this. Boredom? IDK. Time to contemplate your own life. I honestly don't know what Flan is getting out of posting here any more but its got to be something. People just don't do this unless there's a reason. I hate it and I love it at the same time. It's fascinating really.

Oh, I know exactly why she posts here.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

But, Ms. rock, you have to realize - she injected herself into this conversation knowing she is the perfect example of why male and female co-workers shouldn't be alone.

I know what to do_sometimes · Frozen Sucks!

msrock wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
FNW wrote:
Isn't that what happened with you and your husband?
I get most of you know the story I may have skipped over it. But if Flan was involved in an affair with a married man, perhaps she should step out of this convo.
Really?? Like you didn't know that? lol! I know it and I don't even know anything. I guess you all enjoy this... All of you enjoy this. Boredom? IDK. Time to contemplate your own life. I honestly don't know what Flan is getting out of posting here any more but its got to be something. People just don't do this unless there's a reason. I hate it and I love it at the same time. It's fascinating really.

Well laugh at me, I have heard rumors, but I do not recall Flan telling the dirty story. But at any rate, can't believe she stands in judgement over others if her story is true. Glass houses...

Forever Sunshine · Guru

Well, that's flan!

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
But, Ms. rock, you have to realize - she injected herself into this conversation knowing she is the perfect example of why male and female co-workers shouldn't be alone.

Because we WEREN'T alone...Or do I need to type that again?

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
msrock wrote:
I know what to do_sometimes wrote:
FNW wrote:
Isn't that what happened with you and your husband?
I get most of you know the story I may have skipped over it. But if Flan was involved in an affair with a married man, perhaps she should step out of this convo.
Really?? Like you didn't know that? lol! I know it and I don't even know anything. I guess you all enjoy this... All of you enjoy this. Boredom? IDK. Time to contemplate your own life. I honestly don't know what Flan is getting out of posting here any more but its got to be something. People just don't do this unless there's a reason. I hate it and I love it at the same time. It's fascinating really.
Oh, I know exactly why she posts here.

Well, right now, I obviously have a lot of time on my hands.

But, no matter what anyone thinks they know, there are people here that I don't want to lose touch with and I don't do Facebook. Simple as that.

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Then why do you bash TG constantly on other boards?

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

flan327 wrote:
just Czech wrote:
Pence, by honoring his wife, is in fact showing honor for all women.

That should be enough.

Sand wedger's think otherwise..
Some NEW insult?
flan

People with their heads buried in the sand.

I thought it would be obvious. I was wrong.

msrock · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Then why do you bash TG constantly on other boards?

Take a cigarette break and contemplate it. Why do you bash it on your other boards?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

msrock wrote:
Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Then why do you bash TG constantly on other boards?
Take a cigarette break and contemplate it. Why do you bash it on your other boards?

I don't smoke. Not sure what's up your butt. I don't bash TG. I am frequently told to "go back there". lol

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

7 pages.

How much of it is just pot stirring?

Forever Sunshine · Guru

lilyofcourse wrote:
7 pages.

How much of it is just pot stirring?

I don't know. How many posts has flan made? Count them up and you'll have your answer.

Forever Sunshine · Guru

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
Then why do you bash TG constantly on other boards?

This is flan you're talking about. Her need to fit in is far greater than morality or loyalty.

WYSIWYG · Guru

Obviously it's YOU who doesn't know the difference between "should" and "must". Who the flip cares what YOU think Pence "should" or "must" do in his own freaking marriage. I and many others consider him a gentleman for doing exactly what he's doing and your opinion is just that, an opinion.
- Tinydancer

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You keep missing the point. I don't care what he does in his marriage. I didn't care what Bill did in his marriage, I didn't care what Obama did in his marriage, I didn't and don't care what Trump did or does in his marriage.

I care what they do or did as a servant of the public, in interactions with other public servants.

You need to get over the idea that I care about his marriage in any way, shape, or form. His marriage is between him, his wife and God.

WYSIWYG · Guru

So public servants give up all rights to their private lives? Do you think anyone would ever run for office if that was really true? Please cite some law or precedent that corroborates this ridiculous argument.
- Tinydancer

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The military is a form of "public service" and they voluntarily give up many rights, in order to serve their country. There's your precedent.

There's also the fact that as Vice President he is a "Public Servant", note the first word in that two word combination: "Public". Just over half of that "public" is women. When you serve the public, you serve ALL of the public, not just the men. There's more precedent for you.

WYSIWYG · Guru

Pence, by honoring his wife, is in fact showing honor for all women.
- just Czech

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And by dishonoring all women by considering them all temptresses, as a general class, he is, in fact, dishonoring his wife.

He would be honoring his wife by keeping his trousers on (which I hope and assume that he does) and stopping with that. But to treat women as less worthy than men, of his time, he shows what he thinks of their worth.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

It seems he thinks pretty highly of women.

Because this also benefits the woman.

She can't be accused of anything untoward either.

Tinydancer · Guru

You said one thing right WYSIWYG "he shows what he thinks of their worth". All the rest of it is things you made up in your head. Nice try with the military but that's like comparing apples to oranges. You've not given one single example of where it says that you must give up your personal life and moral code because you're a public servant. Most people are voted in because of their morality even if it's only perceived morality.

-- Edited by Tinydancer on Thursday 20th of April 2017 04:29:50 AM

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

WYSIWYG wrote:
Obviously it's YOU who doesn't know the difference between "should" and "must". Who the flip cares what YOU think Pence "should" or "must" do in his own freaking marriage. I and many others consider him a gentleman for doing exactly what he's doing and your opinion is just that, an opinion.
- Tinydancer

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You keep missing the point. I don't care what he does in his marriage. I didn't care what Bill did in his marriage, I didn't care what Obama did in his marriage, I didn't and don't care what Trump did or does in his marriage.

I care what they do or did as a servant of the public, in interactions with other public servants.

You need to get over the idea that I care about his marriage in any way, shape, or form. His marriage is between him, his wife and God.

And his marriage comes FIRST, before being a public servant.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
But, Ms. rock, you have to realize - she injected herself into this conversation knowing she is the perfect example of why male and female co-workers shouldn't be alone.
Because we WEREN'T alone...Or do I need to type that again?
flan

Bullschit.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
But, Ms. rock, you have to realize - she injected herself into this conversation knowing she is the perfect example of why male and female co-workers shouldn't be alone.
Because we WEREN'T alone...Or do I need to type that again?
flan
Bullschit.

Yes, the two of us ran an entire branch of the public library all by ourselves...

I'm sorry to provide the prevailing theory wrong (or am I?), but people fall in love under a variety of circumstances.

flan

Tinydancer · Guru

So who all was there when you decided you were in love? Must have been kind of hard to consummate that love with all those people around.

just Czech · Give Me Grand's!

WYSIWYG wrote:
Pence, by honoring his wife, is in fact showing honor for all women.
- just Czech

__________________________________

And by dishonoring all women by considering them all temptresses, as a general class, he is, in fact, dishonoring his wife.

He would be honoring his wife by keeping his trousers on (which I hope and assume that he does) and stopping with that. But to treat women as less worthy than men, of his time, he shows what he thinks of their worth.

Bolded is YOUR opinion, nothing else. Pence has dishonored no one, especially HIS wife.

You made a huge assumption with your statement.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

just Czech wrote:
WYSIWYG wrote:
Pence, by honoring his wife, is in fact showing honor for all women.
- just Czech

__________________________________

And by dishonoring all women by considering them all temptresses, as a general class, he is, in fact, dishonoring his wife.

He would be honoring his wife by keeping his trousers on (which I hope and assume that he does) and stopping with that. But to treat women as less worthy than men, of his time, he shows what he thinks of their worth.
Bolded is YOUR opinion, nothing else. Pence has dishonored no one, especially HIS wife.
You made a huge assumption with your statement.

Exactly. And he is not considering women temptresses, he is being prudent about the gossip mongering public.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
But, Ms. rock, you have to realize - she injected herself into this conversation knowing she is the perfect example of why male and female co-workers shouldn't be alone.
Because we WEREN'T alone...Or do I need to type that again?
flan
Bullschit.
Yes, the two of us ran an entire branch of the public library all by ourselves...
I'm sorry to provide the prevailing theory wrong (or am I?), but people fall in love under a variety of circumstances.
flan

For you to claim that the two of you fell in love completely surrounded by others with the result that he left his wife to marry you is completely and utterly unbelievable. Nobody is stupid enough to believe that.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
But, Ms. rock, you have to realize - she injected herself into this conversation knowing she is the perfect example of why male and female co-workers shouldn't be alone.
Because we WEREN'T alone...Or do I need to type that again?
flan
Bullschit.
Yes, the two of us ran an entire branch of the public library all by ourselves...
I'm sorry to provide the prevailing theory wrong (or am I?), but people fall in love under a variety of circumstances.
flan
For you to claim that the two of you fell in love completely surrounded by others with the result that he left his wife to marry you is completely and utterly unbelievable. Nobody is stupid enough to believe that.

I'm sorry you feel that way.

We became FRIENDS first. Can you understand that?

And everyone keeps claiming that a man and a woman have to be ALONE to fall in love. That is simply NOT true.

Maybe you could enlighten me as to what did happen in MY life?

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
But, Ms. rock, you have to realize - she injected herself into this conversation knowing she is the perfect example of why male and female co-workers shouldn't be alone.
Because we WEREN'T alone...Or do I need to type that again?
flan
Bullschit.
Yes, the two of us ran an entire branch of the public library all by ourselves...
I'm sorry to provide the prevailing theory wrong (or am I?), but people fall in love under a variety of circumstances.
flan
For you to claim that the two of you fell in love completely surrounded by others with the result that he left his wife to marry you is completely and utterly unbelievable. Nobody is stupid enough to believe that.
I'm sorry you feel that way.
We became FRIENDS first. Can you understand that?
And everyone keeps claiming that a man and a woman have to be ALONE to fall in love. That is simply NOT true.
Maybe you could enlighten me as to what did happen in MY life?
flan

So you are claiming that you and your husband were NEVER alone until he was divorced and you were not co-workers? Seriously?

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

You're getting the facts confused again.

flan

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

No. I don't think you know what a fact is. You had an affair with your married boss which led to him divorcing his wife and marrying you. This is something you have bragged about on multiple boards and seem proud of. You are not a credible person to be talking about whether men and women should be doing workplace stuff alone.

FNW · Guru

Lawyerlady wrote:
No. I don't think you know what a fact is. You had an affair with your married boss which led to him divorcing his wife and marrying you. This is something you have bragged about on multiple boards and seem proud of. You are not a credible person to be talking about whether men and women should be doing workplace stuff alone.

Actually, I think she is proof positive that Pence's marital rules is a good idea.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

FNW wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
No. I don't think you know what a fact is. You had an affair with your married boss which led to him divorcing his wife and marrying you. This is something you have bragged about on multiple boards and seem proud of. You are not a credible person to be talking about whether men and women should be doing workplace stuff alone.
Actually, I think she is proof positive that Pence's marital rules is a good idea.

I'm glad it works for the Pences.

flan

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
No. I don't think you know what a fact is. You had an affair with your married boss which led to him divorcing his wife and marrying you. This is something you have bragged about on multiple boards and seem proud of. You are not a credible person to be talking about whether men and women should be doing workplace stuff alone.

No, the marriage was over long before he met me. I convinced him that he was more than a doormat.

You live in a Black and White world, and that's fine.

Do you think I sat down one day and said, "I am a single mother on a very tight budget. I don't have enough stress in my life...Hmmm...I know! I'll fall in love with my married boss! That should hurt like Hell."

flan

FNW · Guru

I thought you were married as well, flan. No?

Mary Zombie · Guru

The people that object the most to anyone's More stringent moral standards ....regardless of who we're talking about... are the people that don't like what they see when looking at their own hence getting defensive and taking it as a personal attack.
IMO

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

FNW wrote:
I thought you were married as well, flan. No?

Nope, DH1 was killed in a car crash in 1994. My sons were 5 and 19 months. There was no life insurance.

flan

FNW · Guru

I knew he died in the crash, but I thought that coincided with the affair. I was wrong. I am very sorry you went through widowhood.