TOTALLY GEEKED!

woot woot!

An awesome day for our children's future! YAY!

Lord, help us. The libs are going freaking nuts. You see, the very SAME democrats that supported him 100% for the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals now for some STRANGE reason think he's not capable.

What a bunch of losers...

Supreme Court nominee Judge Neil Gorsuch told law students that "many" female job seekers abuse maternity leave and must disclose plans to become pregnant, a former student has alleged.

The federal judge told a University of Colorado Law School class last year that companies should "ask females about their family and pregnancy plans to protect the company," according to a letter former student Jennifer Sisk wrote to the U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee.

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Oh...and FLANNIE!!!!! YOUR very own DEMOCRAT Senator, Joe Donnelly, voted FOR him!

CLASSIC!!!!!! This just gets better and better...

I had a manager that got pregnant. She completely slacked off the last 5-6 months (like would show up 5 minutes before opening leaving us all sitting in the parking lot for 20 minutes waiting on her to unlock the door), but knew there was nothing they could do. And all of us were well aware she was not returning after her maternity leave. She only stayed to get the paid leave.

It does happen. And she's not the only one I have personally known

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I had a manager that got pregnant. She completely slacked off the last 5-6 months (like would show up 5 minutes before opening leaving us all sitting in the parking lot for 20 minutes waiting on her to unlock the door), but knew there was nothing they could do. And all of us were well aware she was not returning after her maternity leave. She only stayed to get the paid leave.

It does happen. And she's not the only one I have personally known

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 I've never witnessed anything like that.

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Divine Geek wrote:

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I had a manager that got pregnant. She completely slacked off the last 5-6 months (like would show up 5 minutes before opening leaving us all sitting in the parking lot for 20 minutes waiting on her to unlock the door), but knew there was nothing they could do. And all of us were well aware she was not returning after her maternity leave. She only stayed to get the paid leave.

It does happen. And she's not the only one I have personally known

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 I've never witnessed anything like that.

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 Then consider yourself lucky. 

It goes both ways though. I worked with a guy that a year after starting his new job went out on medical leave for extensive knee surgery. He was off work for more than 6 months. He was back for a few months then retired. He basically took the job to get his surgeries covered and paid leave then retired. 

People didn't think I would return after having the boys, but I never planned to quit. And to be honest, returning to work helped maintain my sanity. LOL

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I think it's unethical and in my example, unfair to everyone still working. The company could not replace her while she was on leave. So we worked short staffed for that time. And then continued to be short staffed once she quit while they searched for a replacement. The most meaningful contribution she made her whole pregnancy was unlocking the door. She spent the rest of the time sitting at her desk complaining about how she had to work while she was pregnant because her husband wouldn't let her quit yet.

I wholly agree with maternity leave. However, if you're quitting your job anyway, what exactly are you taking leave from? And if it's an earned benefit, what are those of us not having children earning in replacement?

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I get 8 weeks of vacation/PTO.  That's because I've been here 20 years.  People that have been here 5 get two weeks.  That's life.  Just because one person gets something doesn't mean that you get the same.  Life's not fair.   

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Divine Geek wrote:

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I think it's unethical and in my example, unfair to everyone still working. The company could not replace her while she was on leave. So we worked short staffed for that time. And then continued to be short staffed once she quit while they searched for a replacement. The most meaningful contribution she made her whole pregnancy was unlocking the door. She spent the rest of the time sitting at her desk complaining about how she had to work while she was pregnant because her husband wouldn't let her quit yet.

I wholly agree with maternity leave. However, if you're quitting your job anyway, what exactly are you taking leave from? And if it's an earned benefit, what are those of us not having children earning in replacement?

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I get 8 weeks of vacation/PTO.  That's because I've been here 20 years.  People that have been here 5 get two weeks.  That's life.  Just because one person gets something doesn't mean that you get the same.  Life's not fair.   

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 I am well aware life isn't fair. Doesn't mean I think it's right to take advantage of something. In my opinion, maternity leave is to be used to take a break from full-time work in order to care for a new family memeber. If you have no intentions of continuing your employment, I think it is wrong to take advantage of the leave. I also think it was wrong of the men I have known that delayed retirement/quitting for the sole purpose of taking advantage of paid medical leave.  

Paid leave is something provided by a company to allow time for an employee to heal and return as a contributing member of the staff. 

Divine Geek wrote:

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Divine Geek wrote:

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I think it's unethical and in my example, unfair to everyone still working. The company could not replace her while she was on leave. So we worked short staffed for that time. And then continued to be short staffed once she quit while they searched for a replacement. The most meaningful contribution she made her whole pregnancy was unlocking the door. She spent the rest of the time sitting at her desk complaining about how she had to work while she was pregnant because her husband wouldn't let her quit yet.

I wholly agree with maternity leave. However, if you're quitting your job anyway, what exactly are you taking leave from? And if it's an earned benefit, what are those of us not having children earning in replacement?

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I get 8 weeks of vacation/PTO.  That's because I've been here 20 years.  People that have been here 5 get two weeks.  That's life.  Just because one person gets something doesn't mean that you get the same.  Life's not fair.   

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 I am well aware life isn't fair. Doesn't mean I think it's right to take advantage of something. In my opinion, maternity leave is to be used to take a break from full-time work in order to care for a new family memeber. If you have no intentions of continuing your employment, I think it is wrong to take advantage of the leave. I also think it was wrong of the men I have known that delayed retirement/quitting for the sole purpose of taking advantage of paid medical leave.  

Paid leave is something provided by a company to allow time for an employee to heal and return as a contributing member of the staff. 

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That's where we differ.  I don't think it's taking advantage.  It's earned.  In fact, our HR helps our employees navigate this.  If you combine your maternity leave and vacation and sick days, you can get about 6 months paid leave.  They know full well the employee is not going to come back.  Yet they still help the maximize their EARNED leave. 

My company also offers paternity leave.  In addition to maternity and paternity leave for adoptions. 

You're right. We do differ there. I don't see maternity leave as earned. Vacation and sick days yes, those are earned. But maternity leave is a benefit provided by the company. I have yet to work for a place that you aren't eligible for maternity leave from day 1. FMLA job protection takes a year, but I've not seen restrictions on maternity leave. In my example for instance, that woman had not worked there very long before becoming pregnant. She was pregnant or on leave longer than she wasn't. And I know that because I worked there when she was hired and when she finally quit.

These are my opinions formed from my personal experiences. I'm not close minded enough to think this is the only way things can be. Maybe I have been too jaded by people who have gamed the system and as a result made my job much more difficult.

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You're right. We do differ there. I don't see maternity leave as earned. Vacation and sick days yes, those are earned. But maternity leave is a benefit provided by the company. I have yet to work for a place that you aren't eligible for maternity leave from day 1. FMLA job protection takes a year, but I've not seen restrictions on maternity leave. In my example for instance, that woman had not worked there very long before becoming pregnant. She was pregnant or on leave longer than she wasn't. And I know that because I worked there when she was hired and when she finally quit.

These are my opinions formed from my personal experiences. I'm not close minded enough to think this is the only way things can be. Maybe I have been too jaded by people who have gamed the system and as a result made my job much more difficult.

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You all (women) have the exact same benefits.  If you chose not to take advantage of maternity leave, that's fine.  But you should not want to restrict it for others... 

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I've never worked any where that had any paid anything.

Sick days, vacation, nothing.

If you needed time off for anything, it was 100% your responsibility.

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 I'm sorry to hear that.

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It's good that the Supreme Court is back to full count. It's bad that it wasn't handled properly over a year ago though. Gorsuch's rulings will forever be tainted with "but he shouldn't have even been nominated because the position should have already been filled".

This is how you beat Democrats. You beat them at their OWN game. They are always trying to change the rules to suit them. So, when they do you use their stupid side rules and beat them. They have always tried to ignore rules and or change them for themselves and then hold try to hold Repos to standards they don't apply to themselves. It's a game they have been playing for decades. Time to fight fire with fire.

So what? The left whines abouteverything. Let them whine.
- Lady Gaga Snerd

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I know many on the right that are just as upset about the situation as those on the left are, though. It sets a dangerous and bad precedent. This was the longest that a vacancy has existed on the Supreme Court since the War of Northern Aggression.

We move the bar 5 spaces, they move it 10, in response we move it 50, so they move it 60, in response we move it 100, so they move it 110. Maybe not next time, but soon, when one side disagrees with a President from the other side on a nomination, the seat will just remain vacant, until the Senate and the Office of the President both are controlled by the same party.