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FNW · Guru

Easter 2017, Christians ‘Most Persecuted Group in the World

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Here's one definition:

Hostility and ill-treatment, especially because of race or political or religious beliefs.

I guess that's where I'm coming from.

flan

FNW · Guru

To qualify for asylum in this country, persecution must be more than just hostility and ill-treatment.

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
Here's one definition:

Hostility and ill-treatment, especially because of race or political or religious beliefs.

I guess that's where I'm coming from.

flan

No, that's just liberal whining. Not persecution.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Here's one definition:

Hostility and ill-treatment, especially because of race or political or religious beliefs.

I guess that's where I'm coming from.

flan
No, that's just liberal whining. Not persecution.

No, it's the FIRST definition that came up when I googled the word.

flan

Lindley · Guru

My dd lived in a country where it was happening. National believers being beaten and disowned by their families, one womans husband beat her because she is a Christian and tore up her Bible. A ex Muslim who became a Christian can't go back home because there is a hit on his life and his family.

Ohfour · Hooker

Lindley wrote:
My dd lived in a country where it was happening. National believers being beaten and disowned by their families, one womans husband beat her because she is a Christian and tore up her Bible. A ex Muslim who became a Christian can't go back home because there is a hit on his life and his family.

now THAT's persecution. Hostility is not.

Lindley · Guru

Ohfour wrote:
Lindley wrote:
My dd lived in a country where it was happening. National believers being beaten and disowned by their families, one womans husband beat her because she is a Christian and tore up her Bible. A ex Muslim who became a Christian can't go back home because there is a hit on his life and his family.

now THAT's persecution. Hostility is not.

Isn't killing someone considered hostile?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Here's one definition:

Hostility and ill-treatment, especially because of race or political or religious beliefs.

I guess that's where I'm coming from.

flan
No, that's just liberal whining. Not persecution.
No, it's the FIRST definition that came up when I googled the word.
flan

I wouldn't go with that if I were you. You are hostile to religious beliefs all the time.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Here's one definition:

Hostility and ill-treatment, especially because of race or political or religious beliefs.

I guess that's where I'm coming from.

flan
No, that's just liberal whining. Not persecution.
No, it's the FIRST definition that came up when I googled the word.
flan
I wouldn't go with that if I were you. You are hostile to religious beliefs all the time.

The ONLY time that is remotely true is when they are shoved down my throat.

I respect those who believe without judging. I respect people who are open-minded.

flan

Tinydancer · Guru

You have the most closed mind I've ever seen so you have no respect for yourself?

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Here's one definition:

Hostility and ill-treatment, especially because of race or political or religious beliefs.

I guess that's where I'm coming from.

flan
No, that's just liberal whining. Not persecution.
No, it's the FIRST definition that came up when I googled the word.
flan
I wouldn't go with that if I were you. You are hostile to religious beliefs all the time.
The ONLY time that is remotely true is when they are shoved down my throat.
I respect those who believe without judging. I respect people who are open-minded.
flan

So, people discussing religion on a message board you voluntarily belong to is "shoving it down your throat", when no one makes you read those threads?

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Yeah, it's pretty clear what the title of the thread is.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Here's one definition:

Hostility and ill-treatment, especially because of race or political or religious beliefs.

I guess that's where I'm coming from.

flan
No, that's just liberal whining. Not persecution.
No, it's the FIRST definition that came up when I googled the word.
flan
I wouldn't go with that if I were you. You are hostile to religious beliefs all the time.
The ONLY time that is remotely true is when they are shoved down my throat.
I respect those who believe without judging. I respect people who are open-minded.
flan
So, people discussing religion on a message board you voluntarily belong to is "shoving it down your throat", when no one makes you read those threads?

No, NOT this thread.

You've been around as long as I have.

It's fine to insult and mock agnostics and atheists, based on past threads.

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

Oh here we go. She makes every thread about her.

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Here's one definition:

Hostility and ill-treatment, especially because of race or political or religious beliefs.

I guess that's where I'm coming from.

flan
No, that's just liberal whining. Not persecution.
No, it's the FIRST definition that came up when I googled the word.
flan
I wouldn't go with that if I were you. You are hostile to religious beliefs all the time.
The ONLY time that is remotely true is when they are shoved down my throat.
I respect those who believe without judging. I respect people who are open-minded.
flan

So, it's ok for YOU to "persecute" (by your definition) people that you do not consider open-minded?

Good to know. But not unexpected.

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

And many of her buddies viciously attack Christians and not a peep from her.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
And many of her buddies viciously attack Christians and not a peep from her.

Where? When?

flan

Lady Gaga Snerd · Guru

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Here's one definition:

Hostility and ill-treatment, especially because of race or political or religious beliefs.

I guess that's where I'm coming from.

flan
No, that's just liberal whining. Not persecution.
No, it's the FIRST definition that came up when I googled the word.
flan
I wouldn't go with that if I were you. You are hostile to religious beliefs all the time.
The ONLY time that is remotely true is when they are shoved down my throat.
I respect those who believe without judging. I respect people who are open-minded.
flan
So, people discussing religion on a message board you voluntarily belong to is "shoving it down your throat", when no one makes you read those threads?
No, NOT this thread.
You've been around as long as I have.
It's fine to insult and mock agnostics and atheists, based on past threads.
flan

Where? When?

Quotes please.

Lawyerlady · On the bright side...... Christmas is coming! (Mod)

flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Ohfour wrote:
flan327 wrote:
Here's one definition:

Hostility and ill-treatment, especially because of race or political or religious beliefs.

I guess that's where I'm coming from.

flan
No, that's just liberal whining. Not persecution.
No, it's the FIRST definition that came up when I googled the word.
flan
I wouldn't go with that if I were you. You are hostile to religious beliefs all the time.
The ONLY time that is remotely true is when they are shoved down my throat.
I respect those who believe without judging. I respect people who are open-minded.
flan
So, people discussing religion on a message board you voluntarily belong to is "shoving it down your throat", when no one makes you read those threads?
No, NOT this thread.
You've been around as long as I have.
It's fine to insult and mock agnostics and atheists, based on past threads.
flan

Yes, I have. I wasn't talking about THIS thread.

WYSIWYG · Guru

Regarding the OP:
That was a very sad day.

Regarding several other things:
I don't believe that microchipping is "the mark of the devil", in and of itself. There may come a time as someone already mentioned when people will get chips that specifically mark them as following a certain path, but just the chips in general? No. Not a "mark of the devil" in and of themselves

We've had numerous "this is the end" predictions. In each and every case they have been false. I don't think this is the end either. Barack Obama wasn't able to destroy this great country and there's still time for Donald Trump to save it, if he does the right things. And if this country survives then the beacon of light and hope that shines from it can still illuminate the world.

Lastly we should not attack each other, even if it's just via characters typed on a message board. It defeats both the idea of "turn the other cheek" as well as "do unto others as you would have others do unto you" (granted, I know the second one isn't biblical, but its' still a good rule to live by).

Cheerios4606 · Guru

The mark of the beast is meant to rule over the people of the earth. That without it, you cannot buy or sell.

I saw a youtube video a while back that questioned this mark that Revelations talks about. That perhaps it isnt an actual number mark, but that it is a symbol representation of a group. That the bible phrase was describing a symbol and not a number. And that the symbol was written in revelation in the way it was seen. That symbol today very closely relates to the words you see on a ISIS flag.

ISIS and muslims are working VERY hard to spread sharia law everywhere. That without converting to islam, you would not be able to live, buy or sell.

Something to ponder.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

Another similarity is that the Bible talks of being beheaded as a punishment for not having this mark.

ISIS seems to really like beheading people.

Cheerios4606 · Guru

Oh good catch! Yes it does!

Cheerios4606 · Guru

Here is a video on it. Although I am not sure it was the one I saw a while ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygRujadcD1s

burns07 · Guru

sharia law has prevailed mostly in countries where the majority of the populace are unarmed/incapable of resistance/susceptible to intimidation

fortunately for us, as long as the 2nd amendment still stands(and actually even if it doesn't), sharia law won't have much of a chance here

if they really want to get serious about spreading their malignant " religious " views and policies here, there are going to be a lot of dead muslim extremists

FNW · Guru

Very interesting.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

burns07 wrote:

sharia law has prevailed mostly in countries where the majority of the populace are unarmed/incapable of resistance/susceptible to intimidation

fortunately for us, as long as the 2nd amendment still stands(and actually even if it doesn't), sharia law won't have much of a chance here

if they really want to get serious about spreading their malignant " religious " views and policies here, there are going to be a lot of dead muslim extremists

I'd like to believe this.

However, history shows people will walk right in to Hell with big smiles if they believe they are doing the "right" thing.

There won't be a big tank roll through main street and demand people join.

It'll be a slow, gradual shift.

Cheerios4606 · Guru

I know they are here in the united states. They have a bigger presence than they ever did before. Just in the last year I regularly see full body scarves while out at walmart or the local family dollar store, where prior to 2016, I never EVER ever saw them in Denver.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

They are here, too.

I see it like this.

Where ever there is a mosque, there is at least 1 radical in the bunch.

FNW · Guru

There was a yuge influx of them in the DC area as well over the last 15 years or so. More so in the last 8 years. The other day I read where one of the sports manufacturers (adidas or rebock or someone) had a rise in sales since introducing jilbabs.

Cheerios4606 · Guru

Saw this video on facebook, so of course being the ocd person I am, I had to outline the numbers spewed. I think this might be appropriate to share on this thread?

Here are the ACTUAL numbers according to Pew Research regarding the teeny tiny small amount of Muslims that are radical: 1.6 billion muslims on the planet from 49 countries. Of that number, the global total of radicalized muslims = 680,030,000 Million. This number only counts the numbers of the majority sized countries, not the smaller countries where known muslims live. This is not a small minority... this is a majority.

~ Indonesia = 205 million muslims, 143 million support sharia law. 70% of them blame 9/11 on someone other than muslims.
~ Egypt = 80 million muslims, 55.2 million support sharia law. 70% have positive or mixed feelings about Osama Bin Laden.
~ Pakistan = 179 million muslims, 135.4 million support sharia law.
~ Bangladesh = 149 million muslims, 121.9 million support sharia law. 1/4 of them are ok with suicide bombings or targeting of civilians and 2/3rds of them support honor killings.
~ Nigeria = 75.7 million muslims, 53.7 million support sharia law.
~ Iran = 74.8 million muslims, 62.1 million support sharia law.
~ Turkey = 74.7 million muslims, 23.9 million support sharia law.
~ Morocco = 32.4 million muslims, 24.6 million support sharia law.
~ Iraq = 31.1 million muslims, 24.3 million support sharia law.
~ Afghanistan = 24 million muslims, 24 million support sharia law.
~ Jordan = 6.4 million muslims, 3.8 million support sharia law.
~ Palestinian Areas = 4.3 million muslims, 3.83 million support sharia law.
~ France = 4.7 million muslims, 1.6 million support sharia law.
~ Great Britain = 6.8 million muslims, 2.2 million support sharia law.
~ United States = 2.6 million muslims, 500 thousand support sharia law.

FNW · Guru

This is very scary.

WYSIWYG · Guru

The best defense against Sharia Law coming here is for us to keep Christianity out of our laws.

Not on a personal level, but on a legislated level. By all means those of us that believe should keep to religious law because we personally believe it to be right, but we lose the moral high ground when we impose our beliefs on others through legislation. Not to mention we set the precedent that the majority can legislate their religion onto, and over the objection of, the minority. If that precedent is ever set, what do you think Muslims will do if they overtake us in population numbers, if they become the majority religion?

Think about it. They would have every right to legitimately install Sharia Law as the law of the land then, based on the precedent of our acts and actions.

Lindley · Guru

Yes and I'm sure they would be for Christian laws in their country. We have laws already set in our country. We are free to worship our faith whether it is Christian, Jewish, Buddhist, etc... We don't allow having more then one spouse (Mormon ) or other practices against the law.

Sharia law takes rights away and I'm sure they will not stop at it just being observed by their own people but will push it to be the law of the land.

Lindley · Guru

I just now looked up Sharia law. No way is it even compatible with our laws. Please anyone who thinks we should allow them to practice this in our country please look it up.

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

It's another of those things that will gradually change.

flan327 · Itty bitty's Grammy

lilyofcourse wrote:
It's another of those things that will gradually change.

Except it won't...

flan

Ohfour · Hooker

flan327 wrote:
lilyofcourse wrote:
It's another of those things that will gradually change.

Except it won't...
flan

Yeah, you've said that before...and been wrong...

WYSIWYG · Guru

I just now looked up Sharia law. No way is it even compatible with our laws. Please anyone who thinks we should allow them to practice this in our country please look it up.
- Lindley

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It's not a question of "should we allow it" though. It's a question of "is there precedent for basing laws on religion?"

If we base our legislated laws on Christian belief because Christians are the majority, then we have no basis for complaint if Muslims become the majority and replace Christian belief with Islamic belief as the basis for laws. That's what I worry about. Christianity is declining in this country, and Islam is gaining ground, rapidly. It may not happen until I pass beyond, but I foresee a time in the not too distant future where this legitimately could become an issue.

We already had an Anti-American, Islamic sympathizer as President. If that can happen, how can we not expect Congress to go Islamic Majority at some point in time, sooner or later?

lilyofcourse · My spirit animal is a pink flamingo.

You are taking it for granted that those who support Shira law will play by the same rules as you.

That's the first mistake.

They don't care about what you know to be your right.