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Not sure how that is relevant. He lived his life in a way that ensured he wouldn't be a father to any children he would have. That isn't love.


 So only model citizens can love their children? What about alcoholics? Drug addicts?

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 If they loved their kids, they would stop.  They love the drugs and alcohol more.



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Not sure how that is relevant. He lived his life in a way that ensured he wouldn't be a father to any children he would have. That isn't love.


 So only model citizens can love their children? What about alcoholics? Drug addicts?

flan


 They love alcohol and drugs more than their children. 


 Responsible ADULTS give up drugs and alcohol FOR their children. That should be obvious.



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It's NOT that easy to quit.

That should be obvious.

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So what? Some things in life are hard. Does that mean you wont do something because it's hard? So u wont do something hard for your kids?

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People like this really don't love

 Their children are an extension of themselves and their ego. I'm sure the daughter is heartbroken now but ultimately she's lucky he is out of her life even though it probably doesn't seem like that now.



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flan327 wrote:

It's NOT that easy to quit.

That should be obvious.

flan


 Oh, boo f'ing hoo.  Not easy.  Life is not easy.  You do what you have to for the people you love.  If you won't, you don't love them as much as whatever it is you won't give up.



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No, life is NOT easy.

I never said it was.

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This is reminding me of one of my favorite quotes:

"In life you have to do a lot of things you don't ****ing want to do. Many times, that's what the **** life is... one vile ****ing task after another." Al Swearengen - Deadwood. 

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eta: looks like it bleeped out my f words.  lol.



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msrock wrote:

This is reminding me of one of my favorite quotes:

"In life you have to do a lot of things you don't ****ing want to do. Many times, that's what the **** life is... one vile ****ing task after another." Al Swearengen - Deadwood. 

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eta: looks like it bleeped out my f words.  lol.



-- Edited by msrock on Thursday 20th of April 2017 11:41:40 AM


 My brain filled them in.  biggrin

 

I agree totally.  Do you think the men that worked coal mines to support their families had it EASY.  When you become a parent, it's not about doing the EASY thing, it's about doing the RIGHT thing.  And if doing the right thing were easy, everyone would do it and the world would be perfect. 



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I am reminded of the saying:

If it's easy, it's not worth it
If it's worth it, it's not easy

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The guilt may have gotten to Hernandez. I mean, what if he was guilty of those murders and acquitted? That means he wouldn't face punishment for those deaths. If he had a conscience, he could have felt guilty and remorseful, and not punished.

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So the mother oh one of his victims said the Patriots should give all the victims' families money. What a cash grab wannabe!

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Wow. Disgusting.

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The thing is, now that he is dead, his estate goes to his daughter. It is no longer his. I think the lawyers all know this and are trying to get payment somewhere. My bet is he set up some sort of trust so in death she would get it and there would be no estate to sue.

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flan327 wrote:

No, life is NOT easy.

I never said it was.

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 You keep protesting that things are "hard" as if that means someone can't or shouldn't do them.



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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:
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No, life is NOT easy.

I never said it was.

flan


 You keep protesting that things are "hard" as if that means someone can't or shouldn't do them.


 You keep putting words in my mouth.

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No. Just commenting on the words you SAY.

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If the murder conviction is vacated, the Patriots owe Hernandez $6M and the mother of the victim wants the Pats to turn that money over to her directly. Yep, they really must be concerned the estate will not be available to them to get their hands on.

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I hear people say "oh but it's hard" all the time for all kinds of things. People have no grit or discipline anymore. Yeah, many things in life are "hard". So, strap on your big girl or big boy pants and get busy.

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

I hear people say "oh but it's hard" all the time for all kinds of things. People have no grit or discipline anymore. Yeah, many things in life are "hard". So, strap on your big girl or big boy pants and get busy.


 I just LOVE your sweeping generalizations.

On this thread alone, people have said, "Just quit," like it's the same as ordering a pizza.

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Who said its the same as ordering pizza? Talk about sweeping generalizations.

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I know what to do_sometimes wrote:

If the murder conviction is vacated, the Patriots owe Hernandez $6M and the mother of the victim wants the Pats to turn that money over to her directly. Yep, they really must be concerned the estate will not be available to them to get their hands on.


 I feel for her, but I dont think that's gonna happen.



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If the murder conviction is vacated, the Patriots owe Hernandez $6M and the mother of the victim wants the Pats to turn that money over to her directly. Yep, they really must be concerned the estate will not be available to them to get their hands on.


 I feel for her, but I dont think that's gonna happen.


 I feel for her too. I do think her lawyer is steering her wrong.  My employer could not legally send my last pay check to someone's family I committed a crime against.



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Here's a debate:

Who is more entitled to the money, his daughter or the victim's family?

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Here's a debate:

Who is more entitled to the money, his daughter or the victim's family?


 The daughter as along as his "fiance" gets zip.



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Here's a debate:

Who is more entitled to the money, his daughter or the victim's family?


 The daughter as along as his "fiance" gets zip.


 The fiance will have access to the money.  SHe can claim to be spending it on the child.  Nobody is really watching that closely.  Or, she will just wait it out till the kid is 18 if it is in a trust fund or something.



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I wouldnt have a problem with them compensating the victims with a percentage. He destroyed their lives.

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I wouldnt have a problem with them compensating the victims with a percentage. He destroyed their lives.


 But who is "them"? The Patriots?  They give Hernandez's money to anyone but his estate.  The courts?  Well depending how Hernandez left his estate, it may not be up for grabs.



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You can't just "compensate" the victims. They need a judgment in court to get at that money. And it needs to be in his estate for that to happen - if he had beneficiaries on his account, they will get it.

And the state of Massachusetts now says he is still innocent, which makes a lawsuit against a dead man much harder to win.

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I know. I am just saying that if they file a civil suit or something , they might get some damages. But, that is up to a court to decide.

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Didn't the Brown and Goldman families win a civil suit against OJ? I'm pretty sure they received nothing.

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