I was thinking about this as I watch a couple I know who have just had a baby. They are nice people, both work, have 3 older kids and just had a baby.
What struck me was her attitude being so different to mine. I am pretty sure they have a Link card (foodstamps) and medical card. So they don't worry about the cost if their healthcare. She had the baby and then just recently had to be readmitted fof problems and peeps - she just sort of bullies the docs and nurses for what she needs/wants. Without regard for the cost at all. Unlike my attitude where I am always trying to assess if this service or that is necessary - trying to keep the bill manageable. Its a total 180 from her.
Yup. We have 2 worlds. The world of us working schlepps. Who get up early in the morning and work all day and work hard to take care of ourselves , the world and our families. ANd, the takers and takers and takers and takers.
And there are some who are in the middle of those two worlds, LGS. But, I get what BP is saying. The younger generations, because of the way the Dems have chosen to run this country, definitely have a more heightened sense of entitlement than generations past.
Flan I think I notice it more living in this little town. It honestly seems like over 50 percent of these people have Link cards (being a cashier - I am in a position to know) Even married, working people. Its a very accepted way of life here.
Flan I think I notice it more living in this little town. It honestly seems like over 50 percent of these people have Link cards (being a cashier - I am in a position to know) Even married, working people. Its a very accepted way of life here.
I worked for 10 years in an inner-city library branch. I saw a similar philosophy of entitlement, and it was passed down from generation to generation.
As long as the government provides it and makes it so that it discourages someone to provide for themselves, there will be generation after generation of entitlement.
Early in my career, I experienced a couple lay-offs where I collected unemployment. But I was required to show proof that I was actively seeking employment before I could qualify. I think the longest I was off work was 2 weeks, but I was in admin and there was a large market for admin people back in the 1980's.
Are Link cardholders not required to look for employment or submit to drug testing? I don't see many, if any, in my area, but I tend to shop when stores aren't busy.
Are Link cardholders not required to look for employment or submit to drug testing? I don't see many, if any, in my area, but I tend to shop when stores aren't busy.
In my State, if you are unemployed, yes, you are required to actively prove that you're looking for work. You must provide the name, addy, etc. of the companies you've applied to. You must supply a minimum of two per week.
However, if you are receiving cash assistance, food stamps or medical assistance (all called Access) here, you are NOT required to look for work or be drug tested.
I totally agree and have been saying for decades they should be made to look for work or the state should put them to work doing just about anything in order to receive their "gifts". Also, drug testing should be the norm.
Are Link cardholders not required to look for employment or submit to drug testing? I don't see many, if any, in my area, but I tend to shop when stores aren't busy.
In my State, if you are unemployed, yes, you are required to actively prove that you're looking for work. You must provide the name, addy, etc. of the companies you've applied to. You must supply a minimum of two per week.
However, if you are receiving cash assistance, food stamps or medical assistance (all called Access) here, you are NOT required to look for work or be drug tested.
Every Monday, patrons would come in to file for their unemployment benefits.
They were also supposed to be looking for work. Their "solution:" copy down business names & addresses from the Yellow Pages.
Many who receive benefits do work. Both of the parents in my scenario work full time.
How are they able to collect benefits from the state if they're both working full time? What are the guidelines for minimum / maximum income in order to qualify? That seems wrong to me.
Really? OK, I guess I can see where they might need some assistance. But, mostly I think they need to be taught how to live within their means. It could be done on $42k.
So they work, but they don't earn enough to support themselves? I wonder what their lifestyle is like. I mean, living in squalor while trying to feed and clothe children, going without to do so...okay. But are they unable to support themselves because they are spending their incomes on iPhones, tattoos, piercings, and trips to Six Flags?
Personally, after graduating from law school, when my student loans became due, and having taken a hit in the bank account due to divorce, I took a second, rather demeaning job (for a person with a JD) in order to make ends meet. Granted, I didn't have children to raise, but my father did and there was a point where he worked 3 jobs to put food on the table and clothes on our backs.
So they work, but they don't earn enough to support themselves? I wonder what their lifestyle is like. I mean, living in squalor while trying to feed and clothe children, going without to do so...okay. But are they unable to support themselves because they are spending their incomes on iPhones, tattoos, piercings, and trips to Six Flags?
Personally, after graduating from law school, when my student loans became due, and having taken a hit in the bank account due to divorce, I took a second, rather demeaning job (for a person with a JD) in order to make ends meet. Granted, I didn't have children to raise, but my father did and there was a point where he worked 3 jobs to put food on the table and clothes on our backs.
Up until I went back to school to get an MBA at age 38 I always had my FT job plus at least one PT job.
IMO, The biggest issue this Country has is that entitled mindset that leads to a poor work ethic and relying on the Govt' (aka taxpayers) to fund their chosen lifestyle.
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Yup. I live on the outskirts of one of the most expensive cities in North America. Because I can't afford to live IN it. I make above the 'welfare' threshold, but after basic needs there is often little left (by payday this weekend, there will be less that $300 in my bank account and I hate having to dip into my savings because that is not a long term option). So, I picked up another 1.5 jobs. It sucks, and I'm tired and I have no social life, but my bills are paid.
Yup. I live on the outskirts of one of the most expensive cities in North America. Because I can't afford to live IN it. I make above the 'welfare' threshold, but after basic needs there is often little left (by payday this weekend, there will be less that $300 in my bank account and I hate having to dip into my savings because that is not a long term option). So, I picked up another 1.5 jobs. It sucks, and I'm tired and I have no social life, but my bills are paid.
Yeah, and you are young, and you do get social interaction at those extra jobs. I had fun at my PT jobs because the stress was not there, I had the FT job with benefits, the PT were just for making extra cash, not for climbing the corp ladder. Geesh I had a 20 year long bookkeeping bix where I set my rate and could just walk away from the jobs I didn't like, I've done taste testing for booze in Liquor stores,$20/hour 35 years ago!
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Sometimes you're the windshield, and sometimes you're the bug.
Yup. I live on the outskirts of one of the most expensive cities in North America. Because I can't afford to live IN it. I make above the 'welfare' threshold, but after basic needs there is often little left (by payday this weekend, there will be less that $300 in my bank account and I hate having to dip into my savings because that is not a long term option). So, I picked up another 1.5 jobs. It sucks, and I'm tired and I have no social life, but my bills are paid.
Yeah, and you are young, and you do get social interaction at those extra jobs. I had fun at my PT jobs because the stress was not there, I had the FT job with benefits, the PT were just for making extra cash, not for climbing the corp ladder. Geesh I had a 20 year long bookkeeping bix where I set my rate and could just walk away from the jobs I didn't like, I've done taste testing for booze in Liquor stores,$20/hour 35 years ago!
Well, there is no extra cash happening here. Just a safety net in case something goes wrong (for instance, if I pop a tire on my car I am automatically in the red. And can't get to work). And there's not a whole lot of social interaction when I am transcribing the research of a PhD who works in a different province.
Yup. I live on the outskirts of one of the most expensive cities in North America. Because I can't afford to live IN it. I make above the 'welfare' threshold, but after basic needs there is often little left (by payday this weekend, there will be less that $300 in my bank account and I hate having to dip into my savings because that is not a long term option). So, I picked up another 1.5 jobs. It sucks, and I'm tired and I have no social life, but my bills are paid.
Yeah, and you are young, and you do get social interaction at those extra jobs. I had fun at my PT jobs because the stress was not there, I had the FT job with benefits, the PT were just for making extra cash, not for climbing the corp ladder. Geesh I had a 20 year long bookkeeping bix where I set my rate and could just walk away from the jobs I didn't like, I've done taste testing for booze in Liquor stores,$20/hour 35 years ago!
Well, there is no extra cash happening here. Just a safety net in case something goes wrong (for instance, if I pop a tire on my car I am automatically in the red. And can't get to work). And there's not a whole lot of social interaction when I am transcribing the research of a PhD who works in a different province.
Well then your extra jobs were not as cool as mine. I stood in Liquor stores making drinks, made more per hour than my FT job. Sales soared.
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I lived in the suburbs because was cheaper. And I brought lunch most days to work.
We don't have suburbs. We have entirely different cities. And very long commutes (often over 2 hours round trip). The city is becoming so unaffordable that people are losing their housing and having to leave. Often leaving involves losing their job. The city has changed a bylaw that states that people can't sleep in their cars to a bylaw that people CAN sleep in their cars so that if they lose their housing they don't also lose their jobs.
Tig. You could make a killing by creating a tiny house park.
It'd be a lot like a campground, hook ups at each little, level site.
Put a picnic table and grill out there and charge by the night, week, or month.
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There was one, one, time in my life when I considered filing for bankruptcy as a way out of my debt. But then I slapped myself and said wtf are you thinking?? You got yourself into this mess you better get yourself out!
I think a lot of people just can't slap themselves and end up taking the easy way out, whether that's food stamps or whatever it is. No one takes responsibility for their actions anymore.
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Was it a bad day?
Or was it a bad five minutes that you milked all day?
When I was first widowed, the attorney who wrote our
wills told me to file for bankruptcy when I was having
a hard time making up a budget. He was absolutely NO
help at all. If I had filed, I would be in a much more
comfortable position than I am now, but at least now I
have a clear conscience. In my age bracket, filing for
bankruptcy was a scandal and a shameful position.
I know someone who filed for bankruptcy and he worked himself to death to pay it off.
He worked 52 hours a week and brought home less than $100.
Bankruptcy is not a get out of debt free card.
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A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
When I was first widowed, the attorney who wrote our wills told me to file for bankruptcy when I was having a hard time making up a budget. He was absolutely NO help at all. If I had filed, I would be in a much more comfortable position than I am now, but at least now I have a clear conscience. In my age bracket, filing for bankruptcy was a scandal and a shameful position.
Oh my gosh, Momala!
I had an attorney advise filing for bankruptcy after DH1 died.
I always worked several jobs. So I am sympathetic to these people. I admit that I would require more limits on what they can buy with food stamps (steak and lobster has nutritional value - but Monster drinks, chips, csndy bars and Mountain Dew do not. You would be amazed how much of thst stuff is bought with snap cards
The medical tho really struck me because while I have always had insurance I have always had to pay my portion. To just demand all tge medical you want without regard for thr bill - I was a bit envious. and the demand thing. The attitude thst all that medical was due her - who cared about the cost.
Was thinking this morning, why not deliver boxes of food instead of money on cards?
With all the grocery delivery options now, just put together a week or two worth of food, with what is needed to make real meals, both quick and easy and maybe some little more involved, to their door.
Limit money to maybe $100 a month.
Have applicants fill out extensive health information forms about allergies and such, and then put the boxes together.
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I have dealt with medicaid for years, Aaron's ends this October and I'll never have to deal with it again, but I can sort of understand why there is a point a person gets pushy.
For example, when Caitlyn was 15-16 she was told she had strep, again. She had it so often as a child, they finally took her tonsils out. Well, between 9 and 12, nothing. No strep.
Then she was told she had it again after complaining of a sore throat and running a fever.
Treated her with antibiotics, two weeks later we were back, same symptoms.
This went on every 2-3 weeks till the antibiotics were no longer doing anything, and I flat lost it on the doctor. Demanded a referral to an ENT, he refused and kept treating her with more antibiotics.
I fought for a year to get a referral cause I couldn't make an appointment on my on, the Primary doctor had to make the referral.
Finally, got him to refer us, the ENT didn't rely on the standard quick test, he cultured a swab.
She never had strep.
She had a staph infection.
For 3 years, she had a staph infection in her throat and by the time it was diagnosed she had practically lost her ability to talk and had lost a bunch of weight and it took an extremely strong antibiotic to get rid of it.
So yes, there are times with medicaid the patient has to get pushy and demanding.
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A flock of flirting flamingos is pure, passionate, pink pandemonium-a frenetic flamingle-mangle-a discordant discotheque of delirious dancing, flamboyant feathers, and flamingo lingo.
And there are some who are in the middle of those two worlds, LGS. But, I get what BP is saying. The younger generations, because of the way the Dems have chosen to run this country, definitely have a more heightened sense of entitlement than generations past.
- Forever Sunshine
And there are some who are in the middle of those two worlds, LGS. But, I get what BP is saying. The younger generations, because of the way the Dems have chosen to run this country, definitely have a more heightened sense of entitlement than generations past. - Forever Sunshine
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Was that a typo? Didn't you mean "ruin"?
Hahaha yeppers, sometimes the "i" sticks on my laptop.
