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We all hate you': Eighth graders on field trip to Washington refuse to pose with Paul Ryan then bombard his Instagram page with insults after he shares photo with their classmates

  • One hundred students from South Orange Middle School refused to be in photo
  • The children had traveled to Washington DC from New Jersey for a field trip 
  • Another 100 were willing and posed with Ryan outside the US Capitol 
  • He shared that photograph on Instagram and was inundated with complaints
  • One 13-year-old student told DailyMail.com he disagreed with Ryan's stance on healthcare, education and LGBT rights 

By Jennifer Smith For Dailymail.com

PUBLISHED: 15:53 EDT, 28 May 2017 | UPDATED: 21:42 EDT, 28 May 2017

 

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A free-thinking group of eighth grades refused to pose with House Speaker Paul Ryan during a field trip to Washington DC on Thursday.

Half of the students from South Orange Middle School in New Jersey stood on the other side of the street as their classmates had their photo taken with Ryan outside the United States Capitol.

When he uploaded the image to Instagram, the ones who had refused to be in it flooded the comments section with insults and complaints. 

'Half of us stood across the street including me because we hate you,' said one.

 

Another spoke to DailyMail.com to explain his decision to not take part.

 

Half of the eighth graders at South Orange Middle School refused to be in this picture with Paul Ryan on Thursday
 
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Half of the eighth graders at South Orange Middle School refused to be in this picture with Paul Ryan on Thursday

'The fact that he puts his party before his country, he likes to think of what his party will think of him other than what his country will think of him,' Matthew Malespina, 13 said.

Ryan's Republican stance on healthcare, education and LGBT rights were among the things Matthew disagreed with.

Paul Ryan (pictured in March) was snubbed
 
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Paul Ryan (pictured in March) was snubbed

 

The school has not commented on their protest but Matthew's mother said it gave all students the option to take part or not. 

'The school allowed the children to make a choice, they were very good about that. It was all quite peaceful,' she said.

The children were taking part in a field trip to DC when they were told on Wednesday that they would be meeting Ryan.

Matthew texted his mother immediately to tell her that he was concerned and she urged him to let the teachers know he was uncomfortable with it.

When Ryan emerged from the Capitol on Thursday, some students who had agreed to take part were gathered on the steps to have their photograph taken. 

The others were stood across the street and Ryan was unaware that they had refused.

On Friday, he uploaded the photograph with the willing students to Instagram, writing alongside it: 'Got that #FridayFeeling'. 

Ryan was posing with the children outside the US Capitol building. Half stayed on the other side of the street 
 
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Ryan was posing with the children outside the US Capitol building. Half stayed on the other side of the street 

Ryan uploaded the photograph to Instagram, writing 'Got that #FridayFeeling' alongside it 
 
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Ryan uploaded the photograph to Instagram, writing 'Got that #FridayFeeling' alongside it 

The children inundated the post with insults, telling Ryan they 'hate' him and pointing out to others that half of the grade had in fact refused to pose with him 
 
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The children inundated the post with insults, telling Ryan they 'hate' him and pointing out to others that half of the grade had in fact refused to pose with him 

The teenagers even went as far as to say that those who did pose with Ryan did so to make fun of him 
 
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The teenagers even went as far as to say that those who did pose with Ryan did so to make fun of him 

The students pounced, pointing out in the comments section that half did not want to be associated with him and accusing him of merely using them as a photo-opp.

'I find this really funny because this is my school and more than half of us chose to step out of that picture. And to add, the school is from a very liberal town, so I'm very proud to say that I was amongst the students who stood ACROSS the street.

Elissa Malespina told DailyMail.com she was proud of her 13-year-old son Matthew for not choosing not to take part in the photo 
 
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Elissa Malespina told DailyMail.com she was proud of her 13-year-old son Matthew for not choosing not to take part in the photo 

'Plus most of the kids who were standing there were only there to make fun of him because he's a walking talking meme, said one.

They were met with comments from Republican supporters who accused them of being disrespectful to the office of the Speaker of the House.

Matthew's mother Elissa supported his decision, telling DailyMail.com she was proud of him and the rest of the children for standing up for what they believe in. 

'We've always talked about politics so we've always been a family that has been politically active. We didn't indoctrinate him, he has had a mind of his own ever since he was a small child and he's gathered up his own views. 

'We are lucky to live in a community with a large number of active and engaged young people.   

 

 

'I don't think it was a sign of disrespect. I think it was a sign of peaceful protesting. A sign of disrespect would be to curse the guy off but he chose to not take a picture with a man who was clearly doing it for a photo-op. I think all of them were rather respectful.'

Matthew stood by his decision. He flatly ruled out ever posing with President Trump but enthusiastically said he'd have a snap taken with Hillary Clinton. 

'I would never take a picture with that man. Never. (But) Definitely, I would take a picture with Hillary Clinton,' he said. 

South Orange Middle School students in the same grade walked out of classes earlier in the year to protest against Trump's inauguration.  



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4550446/Eighth-graders-refuse-pose-Paul-Ryan.html#ixzz4iTO04pNk 
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Well, I don't like Paul Ryan either. But, is that what we now want to teach our kids?

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These are the deplorables. Show some respect. I would say the same thing even if they did that to Pelosi. Respect.

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Oh, i do hate Paul Ryan , lol. Not only him but John McCain and Lindsay Graham!

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These are the deplorables. Show some respect. I would say the same thing even if they did that to Pelosi. Respect.

 Hey I take offense to that!  I'm a deplorable. evileye I don't care that the kids didn't want to be in the pic, I do care about their ignorant comments and accusations.



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Very rude, and I bet they don't even know the reason why they don't like him.

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They were repeating, badly, what they have heard their parents say.

There is no excuse for rude behavior.

What a bunch of brats.

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Of the posts that I have read, there were so
many spelling and grammar mistakes that I
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Momala wrote:



Of the posts that I have read, there were so
many spelling and grammar mistakes that I
just cringed! Sloppy, lazy writing.

 LOL, I had the same thought!



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They dont ALL hate him. You dont get to speak for others.

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It's so sad to me the hate these kids are taught. When I was growing up hate was considered a bad word that we weren't allowed to say.

We had to say, "I dislike it intensely" lol

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I am perfectly fine with the students choosing not to be in a picture. They removed themselves from the situation, they did not prevent others from participating, and they did not disrupt. The problem I have is the comments that followed. I'm all for standing up for what you believe in, but don't be an a$$ about it.

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I am perfectly fine with the students choosing not to be in a picture. They removed themselves from the situation, they did not prevent others from participating, and they did not disrupt. The problem I have is the comments that followed. I'm all for standing up for what you believe in, but don't be an a$$ about it.

I agree.  No way in hell I'd pose for a picture with Nancy Pelosi or Hillary Clinton, or Chuck Schumer.   Those people don't deserve or demand respect.  



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I disagree. This is our govt. Our soldiers died to preserve our Govt and America and our way of life. The people who were elected were elected through the Democratic process. And, yes, there are elected officials I cannot stand. However, they were elected nonetheless. So, ALL of those children should have respectfully posed for a picture. Just my opinion.

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They are not the President, and they were elected by individual states. Why should a kid from California have to pose with Wisconsin's Paul Ryan?

Nope. This is America. Walking out of a speech for a group is one thing, but choosing who you get your picture taken with is individual. Liberty matters.

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Liberty matters but so does respect. Respect for the OFFICE and the govt that has been established. Believe me, i would love to go give Paul Ryan the raspberries.


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They didn't have to have their picture taken with Ryan, but could still act respectful.

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It was a school trip. And, part of that would be taking pictures. Every event doesnt' have to be taken over to barf up one's personal opinions. So, yeah everyone has free speech. But we have now decided that includes rudeness.

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Forcing someone to get their picture taken with you is rude in and of itself. These kids declined, but did nothing but stand on the other side of the road.

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Although, yes, the comments on the post were rude - but that's a different issue than getting the picture taken. You want to take issue with the comments on the picture, fine - but don't force people to get their picture taken with someone they don't want to.

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Usually on field trips, someone wants to snap some pics for the yearbook. We can agree to disagree. I think respect is the larger lesson here. Something that is seriously lacking in our society. But, as explained in another article i posted the rules of society and engagement have changed. And, we cannot have it one way for one side and one way for another. I would expect my kid to be polite and pleasant and take the pic. That is how I would parent. And, if he/she wants to speak out then , when you get home write a letter to Paul Ryan or whatever but you don't take the event over for yourself. Just my opinion. You have your opinion and I have mine and neither of us is going to change that, lol.

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Was this a pre-determined photo op? Or was it stumbled upon and Ryan offered to stand for pics with the class? If it were pre-determined then I say the class should've taken the pic as a whole. If it were stumbled upon, then those who wanted to have their pics taken with the man should and those who didn't shouldn't be forced to.

As for their comments, yes, they were rude and uncalled for. Unfortunately, children are what they learn at home and from those they choose to hang with.

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No way would I want my kid's picture taken with someone I disagree so emphatically with. So I would not expect anyone else to do that, either. Getting a picture taken is a CHOICE, not a requirement.

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They should not be forced to take their picture with him, but they do not need to go about it in a disrespectful manner.

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

Usually on field trips, someone wants to snap some pics for the yearbook. We can agree to disagree. I think respect is the larger lesson here. Something that is seriously lacking in our society. But, as explained in another article i posted the rules of society and engagement have changed. And, we cannot have it one way for one side and one way for another. I would expect my kid to be polite and pleasant and take the pic. That is how I would parent. And, if he/she wants to speak out then , when you get home write a letter to Paul Ryan or whatever but you don't take the event over for yourself. Just my opinion. You have your opinion and I have mine and neither of us is going to change that, lol.

 Does this apply to everything?  If your child is on a field trip that (unknown to you beforehand) suddenly included a visit to a mosque or temple because they came across a group of very polite people and wanted to learn more about them, would you say that your child should politely go and engage in whatever customs are appropriate for visitors because it is part of the trip?  Or would you abide by the 'step aside for those things you don't agree with'?  How is it different than stepping out a picture whose politics you don't like?



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Growing up, my BFF was Pentecostal, I, Catholic. There were times when we would be hanging out, and one or the other wanted to go to church. So I'd go with her. She'd go with me. But I kept it a secret to my parents because they would have been upset that I had gone to a Pentecostal service. I think they would worry that I would convert or something. We were friggin praying! LOL



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I think it was fine that the kids did not want their picture taken. The comments, well, some could have been left off.

When I was 12-13, I had my own opinions of politicians. My mother had worked in politics behind the scenes for several years and I knew who was who and what they believed in. There were politician I believed in and some that I did not. I picked up info from newspapers and television. We were taught politics in school and even had mock elections every year that we had to research each candidate.

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We had to research candidates as well. Unfortunately, the teacher tried to influence the class to the left. I don't think the teacher should try influence either way, but should remain impartial.

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Lady Gaga Snerd wrote:

Usually on field trips, someone wants to snap some pics for the yearbook. We can agree to disagree. I think respect is the larger lesson here. Something that is seriously lacking in our society. But, as explained in another article i posted the rules of society and engagement have changed. And, we cannot have it one way for one side and one way for another. I would expect my kid to be polite and pleasant and take the pic. That is how I would parent. And, if he/she wants to speak out then , when you get home write a letter to Paul Ryan or whatever but you don't take the event over for yourself. Just my opinion. You have your opinion and I have mine and neither of us is going to change that, lol.

 I agree with you Gaga.  I don't have kids but I also dislike the amount of kids I see that also think they're on equql level with adults.  Um just noooo



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There is a time and place for everything. Taking over a graduation or a field trip or going off at someone's wedding or whatever is not the time and place. To many snowflakes who feel like they are entitled to ruin something for everyone else.

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I've been thinking about this and I think I was too quick in my original assessment.

I don't really have a problem with stepping out of a picture.

Yes, I do believe there should be respect. A person can respectfully decline anything.

This was Paul Ryan, granted, he is a dweeb and no one really cares for him, but what if this were Hillary Clinton, Saddom (yes, I know he is dead), or someone else who we disagree with?

 

My problem with this is the tweets.

That is the brat behavior.

 



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I agree that stepping out of the picture was fine, and that the tweets were over the line.

I could be a corpse and I'd move out of the picture if I was being photographed with Hillary Clinton or Nancy Pelosi.

Although, on second thought, I might just stay in the picture as a dead person with Pelosi., just so people could compare actually dead (me) with the living dead PLUS brain dead (Pelosi). <a rel=therightscoop.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/angry-nancy-pelosi-.jpeg">

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Well, I see my attempt to post a picture failed. LOL.

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