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  DD is in to painting.  Bought her an easel and acrylic paints.  She whipped off a free hand painting yesterday.  Which is pretty good for a first effort.  I ordered a paint by number for myself on Amazon so this seems like we are going to spend the summer doing some painting.  biggrin



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I used to LOVE paint by numbers!

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I admit to being curious as to why she can't have her own hobby? First basketball and now painting.

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What is that supposed to mean, tig?

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What is that supposed to mean, tig?


 I'm wondering too..



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I admit to being curious as to why she can't have her own hobby? First basketball and now painting.


 I really don't know how you expect me to answer this.



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It's not uncommon for a mom and daughter to share interests.

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I think she's calling you a helicopter parent - having to be involved in everything your daughter does.


That's not MY thinking, just what I think her post means.

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I think so, too.

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She enjoys painting. She asked me to paint with her. I am also artisticas well as playing musical instruments which she also enjoys.

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I played bball in HS and was the top scorer. Had some school records. I love bball. She's tall and started in 3rd grade. She fell in love with bball in 5th grade. I don't actually play on her team so.....

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I didnt know doing things with your daughter was a problem! Lol

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I think it's awesome that you and your DD are creating bonds over common hobbies.

My oldest DD and I love to cook, embroider, sew, ahhhh..... hmmm.....

Okay, okay, she's a way better cook than I am. There. I said it.

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I think she's calling you a helicopter parent - having to be involved in everything your daughter does.


That's not MY thinking, just what I think her post means.


 It doesn't read like painting was something you were into until your daughter was.  You are with her every step of the way with basketball.  I'm just curious if she has any hobbies or interests that you don't go out of your way (like buying a paint-by-number) to be involved in.  Just a question.



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I don't know what the problem is.

Parents do things with their kids.

Heck, I started playing a game online so I'd have something to do with my boys.



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My kids were always really, I mean really, good at telling us to back off.

Hmm, may have raised the darn things wrong..

Now I can't get rid of them!

Well, not that I would want to get rid of them.

But, man, they are always calling wanting us to go here, do this or that, don't forget.. you get the idea.

I am very grateful we were not stuck in a corner and forgotten after we finished raising them. :)

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I think she's calling you a helicopter parent - having to be involved in everything your daughter does.


That's not MY thinking, just what I think her post means.


 It doesn't read like painting was something you were into until your daughter was.  You are with her every step of the way with basketball.  I'm just curious if she has any hobbies or interests that you don't go out of your way (like buying a paint-by-number) to be involved in.  Just a question.


 No.  She has no life.  I totally dominate and dictate her every move.  



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I would love DD to have a shared interest. I took a jewelry making class and knitting. I thought she would like the jewelry but I think she is rebelling. Although she has started sketching. She won't share her sketching work with me and that is ok. I think even if we have our separate hobbies at least we can buy our supplies at the same store. So that is fun shopping at Michael's with her.

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Tignanello wrote:
Lawyerlady wrote:

I think she's calling you a helicopter parent - having to be involved in everything your daughter does.


That's not MY thinking, just what I think her post means.


 It doesn't read like painting was something you were into until your daughter was.  You are with her every step of the way with basketball.  I'm just curious if she has any hobbies or interests that you don't go out of your way (like buying a paint-by-number) to be involved in.  Just a question.


 Yeah. I'm gonna go here.. a dad coaching and being involved in their child's sports would never be questioned or criticized. 

So what if she was or wasn't interested in painting before her daughter was? 

 

This line of questioning is gross.

ETA: Sorry, I don't mean to sound bitchy. 



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I am not saying this is LGS, I know it's not. But...I worked with a woman that did everything her daughter did. She went to and/or was involved in every activity. The daughter did nothing on her own. This resulted in her adult daughter not being able to even go to the doctor alone (both because mom insisted on going and because daughter couldn't do anything independently). Daughter can't function on her own.

Now, knowing LGS, I didn't have the thought. But if it was someone I didn't know as well as I feel I know LGS, I might think, geez, can the kid be left alone?

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I see nothing wrong with sharing a hobby or a sport.

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I don't think mother/daughter bonding over hobbies is a bad thing. I don't think supporting a child when involved in sports is a bad thing, either.

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Tigs, I suspect you work with and around so many mentally imbalanced children who were abused or neglected that you tend to look for that everywhere.

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Tigs, I suspect you work with and around so many mentally imbalanced children who were abused or neglected that you tend to look for that everywhere.


 That is my thought as well so I don't ever take offense to her posts, they have some wise thoughts in them.

 

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Lawyerlady wrote:

I think she's calling you a helicopter parent - having to be involved in everything your daughter does.


That's not MY thinking, just what I think her post means.


 It doesn't read like painting was something you were into until your daughter was.  You are with her every step of the way with basketball.  I'm just curious if she has any hobbies or interests that you don't go out of your way (like buying a paint-by-number) to be involved in.  Just a question.


 Yeah. I'm gonna go here.. a dad coaching and being involved in their child's sports would never be questioned or criticized. 

So what if she was or wasn't interested in painting before her daughter was? 

 

This line of questioning is gross.

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 It's not about gender. BUT ... if dad was coaching his kid's basketball team AND baseball team AND football team AND then learned to play soccer so he could coach that too we'd be calling him a helicopter parent. It's a valid question regardless of gender



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Tignanello wrote:
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Lawyerlady wrote:

I think she's calling you a helicopter parent - having to be involved in everything your daughter does.


That's not MY thinking, just what I think her post means.


 It doesn't read like painting was something you were into until your daughter was.  You are with her every step of the way with basketball.  I'm just curious if she has any hobbies or interests that you don't go out of your way (like buying a paint-by-number) to be involved in.  Just a question.


 Yeah. I'm gonna go here.. a dad coaching and being involved in their child's sports would never be questioned or criticized. 

So what if she was or wasn't interested in painting before her daughter was? 

 

This line of questioning is gross.

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 It's not about gender. BUT ... if dad was coaching his kid's basketball team AND baseball team AND football team AND then learned to play soccer so he could coach that too we'd be calling him a helicopter parent. It's a valid question regardless of gender


 But tig, all youth sports rely on volunteers for coaches  and most volunteers volunteer for many sports and that is because not enough parents volunteer to fill the spots.



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Does the kid (the little boy) get to play something he is interested in without his parent either controlling it or needing to be involved in it?

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Does the kid (the little boy) get to play something he is interested in without his parent either controlling it or needing to be involved in it?


 Turn that around and ask if the kid wants to play the sports but there are not the volunteers to make it happen, so Dad and Mom volunteer.



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I think she's calling you a helicopter parent - having to be involved in everything your daughter does.


That's not MY thinking, just what I think her post means.


 It doesn't read like painting was something you were into until your daughter was.  You are with her every step of the way with basketball.  I'm just curious if she has any hobbies or interests that you don't go out of your way (like buying a paint-by-number) to be involved in.  Just a question.


 Yeah. I'm gonna go here.. a dad coaching and being involved in their child's sports would never be questioned or criticized. 

So what if she was or wasn't interested in painting before her daughter was? 

 

This line of questioning is gross.

ETA: Sorry, I don't mean to sound bitchy. 



-- Edited by NAOW on Monday 5th of June 2017 07:01:27 PM


 It's not about gender. BUT ... if dad was coaching his kid's basketball team AND baseball team AND football team AND then learned to play soccer so he could coach that too we'd be calling him a helicopter parent. It's a valid question regardless of gender


 Honestly you are just trying to be offensive towards me.  I dont coach any of her teams.  She plays softball, piano, clarinet and has been selected as the Drum Major.  She has straight As and i can count on lne hand the times she has ever asked for my help or had me review her work.

 She has friends, goes to dances and plays in the school jazz band. Geez.



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Tigs, I suspect you work with and around so many mentally imbalanced children who were abused or neglected that you tend to look for that everywhere.


 That is my thought as well so I don't ever take offense to her posts, they have some wise thoughts in them.

 

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 Except she tends to make it a habit of targeting LGS, on this board and on another.   I don't think she is trying to be helpful, but I could be wrong.



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Tignanello wrote:
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I think she's calling you a helicopter parent - having to be involved in everything your daughter does.


That's not MY thinking, just what I think her post means.


 It doesn't read like painting was something you were into until your daughter was.  You are with her every step of the way with basketball.  I'm just curious if she has any hobbies or interests that you don't go out of your way (like buying a paint-by-number) to be involved in.  Just a question.


 Yeah. I'm gonna go here.. a dad coaching and being involved in their child's sports would never be questioned or criticized. 

So what if she was or wasn't interested in painting before her daughter was? 

 

This line of questioning is gross.

ETA: Sorry, I don't mean to sound bitchy. 



-- Edited by NAOW on Monday 5th of June 2017 07:01:27 PM


 It's not about gender. BUT ... if dad was coaching his kid's basketball team AND baseball team AND football team AND then learned to play soccer so he could coach that too we'd be calling him a helicopter parent. It's a valid question regardless of gender


I really don't agree. And it's not even relevant to LGS since she only coaches one sport.



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I am going to attempt to paint this:

 

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DD is going to attempt to paint this:

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I will let you know how they turn out! Lol



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NAOW wrote:
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I think she's calling you a helicopter parent - having to be involved in everything your daughter does.


That's not MY thinking, just what I think her post means.


 It doesn't read like painting was something you were into until your daughter was.  You are with her every step of the way with basketball.  I'm just curious if she has any hobbies or interests that you don't go out of your way (like buying a paint-by-number) to be involved in.  Just a question.


 Yeah. I'm gonna go here.. a dad coaching and being involved in their child's sports would never be questioned or criticized. 

So what if she was or wasn't interested in painting before her daughter was? 

 

This line of questioning is gross.

ETA: Sorry, I don't mean to sound bitchy. 



-- Edited by NAOW on Monday 5th of June 2017 07:01:27 PM


 It's not about gender. BUT ... if dad was coaching his kid's basketball team AND baseball team AND football team AND then learned to play soccer so he could coach that too we'd be calling him a helicopter parent. It's a valid question regardless of gender


I really don't agree. And it's not even relevant to LGS since she only coaches one sport.


 In relevance to the original question, it's not about the number of sports; its the new-found interest in her daughter's new found interest that made me curious.

I had, however, understood the conversation to have evolved.



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Tigs, I suspect you work with and around so many mentally imbalanced children who were abused or neglected that you tend to look for that everywhere.


 That is my thought as well so I don't ever take offense to her posts, they have some wise thoughts in them.

 

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 Except she tends to make it a habit of targeting LGS, on this board and on another.   I don't think she is trying to be helpful, but I could be wrong.


to the bolded: I was being curious; and, if you aren't sure you are welcome to ask.  And to the other, I don't think anyone is a target more than anyone else, and as you're accusing me of targeting Snicks, I guess she gets as good as she gives. On a number of boards, I am to understand.



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I'm not here to target or sit around being told I'm unhelpful; I'm here to participate in a conversation as it evolves which has earned me nothing but ... well, I can't come up with a better word than 'scorn'.  Enjoy your thread.

 

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Tignanello wrote:
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I think she's calling you a helicopter parent - having to be involved in everything your daughter does.


That's not MY thinking, just what I think her post means.


 It doesn't read like painting was something you were into until your daughter was.  You are with her every step of the way with basketball.  I'm just curious if she has any hobbies or interests that you don't go out of your way (like buying a paint-by-number) to be involved in.  Just a question.


 Yeah. I'm gonna go here.. a dad coaching and being involved in their child's sports would never be questioned or criticized. 

So what if she was or wasn't interested in painting before her daughter was? 

 

This line of questioning is gross.

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 It's not about gender. BUT ... if dad was coaching his kid's basketball team AND baseball team AND football team AND then learned to play soccer so he could coach that too we'd be calling him a helicopter parent. It's a valid question regardless of gender


 No, we'd be applauding his dedication to his kids.

 

Maybe if more parents were like Gaga, we'd have less troubled kids.  Parents who care and want to spend time with their children is a good thing. 



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If my child likes to do something that I can be interested in, I'm going to do it with her. It's called fostering and nurturing your relationship. I realize some people don't understand that kind of parenting, either because they didn't have that kind of relationship with their own parents, or because they don't have kids (yeah, I went there), but knocking a parent for being involved in activities with their kids is definitely a weird one. And speaks to LOOKING FOR things to criticize.

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If you see curiosity as LOOKING FOR things to criticize than I have no business posting in general, as most of what I post comes from a curious position - to the point of asking specific posters for explanations on specific things. BUT - if you don't like the way I post, fine. It says more about your interpretation than about my post.

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If you see curiosity as LOOKING FOR things to criticize than I have no business posting in general, as most of what I post comes from a curious position - to the point of asking specific posters for explanations on specific things. BUT - if you don't like the way I post, fine. It says more about your interpretation than about my post.


 Perhaps you should look at the wording and tone of your posts.  And note that MANY people were taken aback by the way you posed your "curiosity".  Please don't try to pretend you were being nice with that question.  

 

And please tell me how "evolved" the conversation was when you were only the 2nd one to respond?

 

 



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Sorry, I think Tig is projecting her issues with her family on LGS.



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Good luck with the painting! Painting is not as easy as it looks.

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Thanks. It's fun. I dont' care how it turns out, it's just relaxing to paint. We went to a couple of those Sip n Paints, where you paint a pic in 2 hours and those turned out pretty well. We did a couple of those over the holidays for fun. The first one was the hardest. Once we got on board a bit with it, then it made more sense on how to use the brush, blend the paints and so forth. My mom was a fan of pastels and she used to paint after we went to bed. The arcylics are nice because they dry quickly. My niece wanted to attempt oils so she went to a Bob Ross class which was an all day class. She said it takes days to dry and she had to load it very carefully into her car for the trip home.

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My father's late cousin was an artist. He even taught it at Univ. Santa Barbara. I have several of his paintings in my home. I loved his watercolor paintings. Many of them adorn the beach house. He would travel a lot and paint what he saw. I have his version of the Road to Hana, Maui, as well as one he painted in Italy and another in Santa Barbara. I chose those because of them because of the sentimental value I have of those areas and memories with him.

Do let us know how the paintings turn out, and feel free to share pictures!

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I think think anything you can do with your teens to spend time with them that you both enjoy is wonderful!

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